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Capsule Type Coffee Makers - Which One?  
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6694 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

The last few times my wife and I have been away the hotels we've stayed in have had either nespresso or tassimo capsule coffee makers, my wife likes her coffee especially espresso, she's been hinting for some time that she wants to add a capsule machine to her vast array of coffee making implements, so which one, there are a number of different types on sale where we live, there's nespresso, tassimo, senseo, dolce gusto, I don't drink coffee so have no idea which would be the better bet, any ideas?

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User currently offlinegreasespot From Canada, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 3076 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

I have a Kuerig for coffee as the choices are almost endless. Way more choices up here.

I have a Tassimo as it make pretty good lattes and Cappuccino,

Gs



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7919 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

None.They all use low-quality coffee and produce much more waste than necessary.


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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8876 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 2):
They all use low-quality coffee and produce much more waste than necessary.

You can buy washable/refillable cups and put your own coffee in them. Much less expensive this way, and would probably use less waste.

I have only had the ones you can buy pre-filled/throw away, and I agree those are nasty. The teas seemed ok.



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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 2):
None.They all use low-quality coffee and produce much more waste than necessary.

Nespresso uses high-quality coffee and generally makes great espressos. The rest of the bunch is not up to the same standard I think.

Still, they should only be used by people who don't drink a great deal of coffee, because of waste and costs. I for instance only make one of two coffees a week, so I can't keep regular coffee (goes bland). In this case Nespresso does a pretty good job.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7919 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

Quoting Rara (Reply 4):
Nespresso uses high-quality coffee and generally makes great espressos.

Uhm, no. Nescafé's quality may be 'okay' but is way behind of what other brands have to offer such as Illy, Cellini or even Segafredo to name some other mass producers of espresso coffee. I have an organic, fair-trade coffee here that blows any of Nescafé's products against the wall.



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User currently offlinenws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 855 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

I have a Senseo machine that uses the flat style pods. I don't drink a ton of coffee at home though, so it works out well. The machine itself was free on a special deal about 4 years ago, you just had to buy 4 bags of the coffee pods.

The pods are less expensive than the K-cups. However my parents have a Keurig machine and they have a much larger variety of coffee, tea, cocoa, and even apple cider to choose from.

[Edited 2011-12-28 11:05:26]

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7637 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Tassimo, its simply much more versatile and superior to the Keurig. While Keurig does offer more coffee choices and the ability to use your own coffee grounds, it doesn't regulate the required water temperature and quantity automatically like the Tassimo does. Its great to have a machine that really does make outstanding beverages at the touch of a button and you can make various styles of drinks all with in minutes. Just before Christmas, Keurig had a bunch of demo teams in stores so I tried them, I tried different brands of coffee and they all tasted the same, and the espresso wasn't even close to what an espresso is, no creama and almost half a cup of drink.

The only two other machines you can get up here are the Nespresso and the Dolce Gusto, I haven't tried either of them, but again, they don't alter the temperature for which ever drink you want to make.

I did have a Senseo years ago, but you can't get the pads up here anymore but my cousin still uses his in Germany, while the pads are much cheaper than other brands of discs and cups, the taste and temperature just never really matched up so most of the drinks just ended up tasting the same.



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2316 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

My dad has a Nespresso Citz machine and seems to be happy with it.

I think for most people, capsule coffee machines are good enough. Of course, for the enthusiast, they will never live up to his or her standard.

To make the best coffee, the coffee beans have to be fresh and the milk has to be fresh as well.


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

Quoting Rara (Reply 4):
Nespresso uses high-quality coffee and generally makes great espressos. The rest of the bunch is not up to the same standard I think.

I pulled my Nespresso machine from the cabinet a few weeks back and ordered some capsules. To me, that's the only negative to having a Nespresso machine unless you live somewhere in which there is a retail outlet that sells the capsules. I just have to remember to order them, but if I get the order in before 4 PM, I can have them in two days since the warehouse is down in Florida.

I do like my Nespresso machine (I bought it six years ago and seem to use it for a while, put it back up in the cabinet for a year or two and drag it back out.), and most of the coffee varieties I've tried have been pretty good (Some of their Variations line of flavors seem to vary from bad to decent.).

Quoting nws2002 (Reply 6):

The pods are less expensive than the K-cups. However my parents have a Keurig machine and they have a much larger variety of coffee, tea, cocoa, and even apple cider to choose from.

K-Cup machines are finding their way into many hotels as well. Of course they charge an arm and leg for them. One hotel I stayed at only charged $1.50 each while two others ones charged $12 and $14 for a box of four (You can go to Walmart and buy a big box for $18 or less, and I may actually do that if I stay at one of those hotels again.). I'm not sure how widely available K-Cups are in many countries, but you can find them in Walmart and Target stores here (Walmart also sells the Tassimo, Dulce Gusto and Senseo capsules as well.). Even most major grocery store chains are carrying them as well.



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 7):
I did have a Senseo years ago, but you can't get the pads up here anymore but my cousin still uses his in Germany, while the pads are much cheaper than other brands of discs and cups, the taste and temperature just never really matched up so most of the drinks just ended up tasting the same.

You can make your own:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5108699_make-own-senseo-pods.html

Or you can buy a reusable filter:

http://www.amazon.com/Ecopad-Refilla...offee-Filter-Classic/dp/B0007INM5A


User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2256 times:

Never thought I'd see a discussion of coffee makers on A.net !

I drink quite a bit of coffee; I also live in a rural area, so we depend on well water. We are fortunate to have a very good well, so we have all the water we ever need. One problem though, is the rather high iron content from the well; the water tests just fine, and I do use it right from the faucet to make coffee. However, due to all that iron, I buy a LOT of coffee makers, as they all end up getting clogged up inside, and after maybe 6 or 8 months, they tend to start taking longer and longer to make the coffee. I have tried $40 coffee makers, $60 coffee makers, ones which use paper filters, others which use their own filter, and so on. After 5 or 6 yrs of "experimentation", I am now using what I consider to be the single best coffee maker I have tried so far, a 12 cup, $14 model from "Big Lots". It's fast, it makes great coffee, it has already out lasted any of the others, and it is STILL working flawlessly ! It it ever does go "kaflooey", I will go right back to Big Lots and buy another one just like it. As you may notice, I'm currently very pleased with my coffee brewing equipment.

However............about 2 weeks ago, in walks my bride -to-be, ( Miss Arlie ), with this huge box; "Wazzat" I ask ? That she announces, is MY new Kuerig hundred and some $$$ coffee maker, which incidentally........makes 1 cup at a time !
It seems that her "maiden" friend, Carol, bought the thing, hated it, so she gives it to Arlene; ( or at least, tries to ) Arlene "insisted" she take $50 for the thing.

The big problem being..........we are already running out of counter space ! Arlene is a confirmed "gadget junkie".......she never met a "gadget" she could resist; ( did I mention my "Christmas presents".......my new battery-operated cold weather gloves, and my "thingie" which attaches to my car key ring, so that when I can't find where I laid the keys, I just press a button on yet another gadget, and the "thingie" on the key ring sounds a siren ! And my bumper sticker AND inside back tail-gate sticker which announces to anyone following, that I was in fact at one time a crew member on the U.S.S. Fulton, AS-11, ( which was commissioned in 1941, and de-commissioned in 1991, and no doubt converted into license plates around about 1992 or so.)

So now we have this huge supply of funny looking little plastic containers all over the counter, each containing just enough "stuff" to make a long list of .......................( beverages that I have never even heard of, nor have I ever had the slightest inclination to "try" )

But I'm not complaining...........at least she did buy me an electric boot dryer, ( which I have lusted for, for a long time ), and a really "kick-ass" pair of $50 "convertible" expedition pants from Gander Mountain ! ( Convertible in that there is a zipper just below the knees, so if it gets too warm, you just un-zip each leg, and "presto".......expedition shorts ! )

Charley



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User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1929 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

I have had a Keurig for a few years and am pretty happy with it. I only buy the "extra bold" k-cups. Some of them are pretty good. It's clearly not french press coffee or as good as coffee made from a good high end brewer (I have a capresso MT500 that can make a better cup), but it's absolutely acceptable for a busy weekday morning.

My main complaint has been one mentioned here: waste. I know that one of the tea options came in biodegradeable paper k-cups, but most or all of the coffee does not. I look at it like this: I wasted a LOT of coffee when brewing using other methods on weekday mornings. While that may not create refuse in my trashcan, there is an environmental cost to producing and shipping the beans (and a monetary cost to me to buy them). It may offsett or come close.

For busy mornings with a full time job and three kids it's a good option and I'm closer to a coffee snob than one who'll slum it.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
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If you care about the flavor of your coffee, I strongly recommend buying a french press. It takes virtually no effort if you have an electric water kettle. Just fill the kettle and hit the button. Then mix the water and grounds, push the plunger down, and you're done. I truly spend less than 2 or 3 total minutes preparing my coffee, and it tastes spectacular.

I use a Saeco water kettle: http://www.amazon.com/Saeco-101167-5...unce-Electric-Kettle/dp/B002KAPEC2

...and a Bodum french press: http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-1928-16U..._1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325122924&sr=8-1

Does it take more effort than a capsule type coffee maker? Yes, but just barely. And you have far, far better tasting coffee that's far cheaper with no waste other than the bag your coffee came in.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 10):
Never thought I'd see a discussion of coffee makers on A.net !

What haven't we discussed here?  

Stop - don't answer that!  Wow!

It's on topic for me. I need to stop going to D+D every morning for caffeine and calories.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 12):
Does it take more effort than a capsule type coffee maker? Yes, but just barely. And you have far, far better tasting coffee that's far cheaper with no waste other than the bag your coffee came in.

That's what I need to try next. I like the low price and the control on ingredients, and agree a kettle is pretty fast. I already have a grinder and a press that I got as gifts, just haven't been arsed to give them a whirl yet.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
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Here's what I use when I'm not (French) pressed for time:

http://www.amazon.com/Pavoni-EPC-8-E..._1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325129161&sr=8-1

It takes a lot of time and effort, but it's a lot of fun, and you can make great espresso after you get past the learning curve (which occurs with every new bag of beans).



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User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1929 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 12):
If you care about the flavor of your coffee, I strongly recommend buying a french press.

Absolutely agree.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 12):
It takes virtually no effort if you have an electric water kettle.

Disagree.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 12):
Does it take more effort than a capsule type coffee maker? Yes, but just barely.

Strongly disagree.

With a Keurig, I turn it on. About 15 or so seconds later, I put the k-kup in and press a button. A few seconds later, I'm done. I can throw the k-cup in the trash (or do that later). I fill the tank with water every 2nd or 3rd day. That's about it.

French press involves more patience and more cleaning. Yes, the coffee is better, but it is not at zero cost. The better selections for the single cup brewers are really decent coffee.

I think it depends how much time you have on your hands. I used to french press. Then I had three kids.  


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7637 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2181 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 9):
You can make your own:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5108699_make-own-senseo-pods.html

Or you can buy a reusable filter:

http://www.amazon.com/Ecopad-Refilla...INM5A

And you couldn't have told me this before I let the ex keep the machine  lol!

Quoting geezer (Reply 10):
Never thought I'd see a discussion of coffee makers on A.net !

Thought we have in the past 



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User currently offlinemelpax From Australia, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 1563 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

The nespresso machines are popular in these parts, there's even a few deducated nespresso stores. I suspect that most of them end up becoming 'trendy' kitchen ornaments though. No self-respecting coffee snob (and there are lots here in MEL) would have one in their kitchen though, I've got a Gaggia automatic machine, just have to make sure that there's enough beans & water in it. Still have to froth the milk, but rather that than use the horrid long life milk. A 'traditional' coffee machine would make better coffee, but it's still way better than instant. And proably much cheaper than buying capsules....

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 5):
Quoting Rara (Reply 4):
Nespresso uses high-quality coffee and generally makes great espressos.

Uhm, no. Nescafé's quality may be 'okay' but is way behind of what other brands have to offer such as Illy, Cellini or even Segafredo to name some other mass producers of espresso coffee. I have an organic, fair-trade coffee here that blows any of Nescafé's products against the wall.

The best of a bad bunch if I had to get a capsule machine I spose. At least with a 'normal' machine, you're not stuck with the one brand & can try different brands & blends.



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User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1337 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2174 times:
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It's a slightly different animal, but the Aerobie AeroPress deserves a look.

It makes as good of an Americano as I've had.



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User currently offlineadh214 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

I have a nespresso and love it. The capsules are shipped right to my house and I usually buy about six weeks supply at a time. As for waste, I bought a gadget called an Outpresso that pushes the coffee out of the capsules and lets you recycle the alumumiun with the rest of the household recycling. The coffee ends up in the compost bin.

Andrew


User currently offlinePITingres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1089 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 12):
If you care about the flavor of your coffee, I strongly recommend buying a french press.

And fresh coffee beans. The rule of thumb is that green (unroasted) coffee beans are good for 15 months; roasted whole beans are good for 15 days; and ground coffee is good for 15 minutes.

There are some excellent professional roasters who sell over the net, but for the gadget hound, permit me to recommend a few minutes browsing http://www.sweetmarias.com/ -- I did and am now a happy home-roaster. Freshly roasted, quality beans, a decent grind, and a $25 french press (or the corny looking but very excellent Aeropress) is my path to coffee heaven!



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User currently offlineBA777-236 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 673 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Well as I'm typing this, I'm drinking a cup of coffee from my Tassimo T-20 system.

I got it on sale for $60 bucks but here in Canada it's usually around $80.

I do not drink coffee at home everyday so the higher "per cup price" does not really bother me. The big advantage I find over the perculators is the clean-up. There is ZERO clean up for the Tassimo (and for the other disc systems I suspect).

I had cleaning out the filter in the perculators.. I hate measuring the amount of coffee (as I usually get it wrong), so this is super easy for me.

Disc in, disc out.. that's all.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7348 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1842 times:

My wife and I use a french press and a bean grinder with our camping trailer.

But the problem at home is that we like very different types of coffee. I'm a fan of dark roast coffee with bold taste. She like a smoother coffee with no sharpness in the taste.

So a Krueig works very well for us. Along with tea, hot chocolate and spiced apple cider drinks which we like on occasion, or our grandchildren like.


User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1721 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Nespresso (and their lookalikes) are having an almost Apple-ish following. Not that the coffee is bad or anything (ok-ish), but you can get much better coffee out of a regular espresso machine.

Gaggia/Saeco (they're the same nowadays) are my choice, but there are others.


User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Quoting JJJ (Reply 23):
Nespresso (and their lookalikes) are having an almost Apple-ish following. Not that the coffee is bad or anything (ok-ish), but you can get much better coffee out of a regular espresso machine.

But you can also build a much better computer yourself if you know what you're doing.   That's the similarity between Nespresso and Apple. Give them your money (and lots of it, because they're expensive), and they'll give you a good product, hassle-free. That's why I'm happy with my Nespresso machine. For my three home-made coffees a week, I don't want to invest time and effort. Phones and computers, on the other hand, are a bit closer to my heart, and there I prefer to do things myself instead of just giving it over to Apple.



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25 Post contains images JJJ : That's precisely what I meant Many of their followers reactions are also similar. There's considerable overlap, too.
26 AirPacific747 : Yay, I just got a Nespresso Essenza coffee machine as a birthday present. I ordered some more capsules today, but I just tried making an espresso and
27 Post contains images GrahamHill : I use a moka pot for my coffee. It's not as efficient as a proper espresso machine, but it does the job. If I had some money to invest in an espresso
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