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Is This The New Chevy Chevelle? Code 130R Concept  
User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3284 posts, RR: 6
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8846 times:

Chevrolet Code 130R is the hot talk of the 2012 Detroit Auto Show. This car is somewhat of a mystery. It is highly finished and detailed for a so-called concept vehicle. GM marketers see a gap in its current model lineup for buyers who can't afford the price or insurance cost of a Camaro - but want something sportier than a Sonic or even a Cruze. Chevy clearly needs something to compete with the Scion FR-S and Tc, Kia Forte Coupe, and the new Hyundai Veloster. Positive responses from young people (age 18 to 35) to this Code 130R concept could be enough to push GM into actually building it in mass production. Bottom line: could this concept be the new Chevy Chevelle? Official exterior photos from GM are below.


Chevrolet C130R concept


The C130R concept is powered by a 140 horsepower 1.4-liter Ecotec turbocharged four cylinder motor. This motor is currently deployed in the top of the line Chevy Sonic and Chevy Cruze models, but with the C130R, the engine powers the rear wheels. Yep, it's a rear wheel drive four-seat coupe. Estimated curb weight would be 3,000 pounds, The C130R is based on the same rear-wheel-drive platform (called the Alpha platform) as the brand-new Cadillac ATS, but should be base sticker priced from approximately $19,000 to $20,000 USD. The Cadillac ATS needs a high-volume companion vehicle to gain economy of scale in production, and this "Chevelle" (or "Laguna", perhaps) could be their ticket to reaching that goal.

Whether or not Chevy truly needs another sporty coupe other than the Camaro (although the Camaro carries a $24,500 base price) is yet another story, but I must admit that this concept looks very, very nice to me - in a slightly retro-kinda way. Your thought, fellow motorheads?


Chevrolet C130R concept


Source: http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac...wn-production-chevy-code-130r.html

[Edited 2012-01-13 19:22:27]


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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8819 times:

Not bad. I don't like the forward-swept "B" pillars, nor do I like the tall, flat butt with tiny tail lights that seems to be on it's way to becoming a Chevrolet trademark, but the rest of it is okay looking.

I'll also cast my vote for "Laguna" as the official name over "Chevelle".



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5488 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8816 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 1):
I'll also cast my vote for "Laguna" as the official name over "Chevelle".

Coming out of left field I could imagine this Chevy being named the Del Ray or even revive the Bel Air
marque. Since this would be a rear driver, could an El Camino be a spinoff?



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15796 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8811 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
Chevrolet Code 130R is the hot talk of the 2012 Detroit Auto Show.

Not in the good way. Go back to the drawing board with this one. If the new Camaro is a re-imagining of the old Camaro, this thing looks like a re-imagining of the Celebrity. And this is the better looking of the two concepts.

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
GM marketers see a gap in its current model lineup for buyers who can't afford the price or insurance cost of a Camaro - but want something sportier than a Sonic or even a Cruze. Chevy clearly needs something to compete with the Scion FR-S and Tc, Kia Forte Coupe, and the new Hyundai Veloster.

What GM needs is a good looking, light, rear wheel drive, reasonably efficient roadster and coupe that is fun to drive and reasonably priced...oh, wait.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5488 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8802 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Not in the good way. Go back to the drawing board with this one. If the new Camaro is a re-imagining of the old Camaro, this thing looks like a re-imagining of the Celebrity. And this is the better looking of the two concepts.

It's not bad looking but nothing special. The first picture reminds me of a 2 door Plymouth or Dodge Neon.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
What GM needs is a good looking, light, rear wheel drive, reasonably efficient roadster and coupe that is fun to drive and reasonably priced...oh, wait.

  

But, the only issue with a roadster is the possibility of being gouged by the Insurance companies. Two seater/roadster size fun to drive cars are prime juicy bait for Insurance companies to lord on the pricey premiums.



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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3284 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8792 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 2):
Since this would be a rear driver, could an El Camino be a spinoff?

What GM should do is send the Holden Commodore Ute (with the V-8 of course) here, and sell it as a Chevy El Camino - I mean, why not? GM is importing the Caprice PPV "cop car"? There's got to me some empty space on the cargo ship for some Utes, right??  



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5488 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8781 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 5):
hat GM should do is send the Holden Commodore Ute (with the V-8 of course) here, and sell it as a Chevy El Camino - I mean, why not? GM is importing the Caprice PPV "cop car"? There's got to me some empty space on the cargo ship for some Utes, right??

You better believe it! And Chevy would re-enter the redneck, red state My Name Is Earl market! Who knows if that happens look out for a redneck Ford Raunchero!   

BTW here's a picture of a 2 Door Mopar Neon. The Chevy concept and this defunct Mopar look similar.




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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 8768 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 2):
Coming out of left field I could imagine this Chevy being named the Del Ray or even revive the Bel Air marque.

The Bel Air and Delray lines were full-size cars with little if any pretense of being "sporty" or "performance-oriented", so neither name would be appropriate to this car's intended market segment.

The Chevrolet Laguna, however, was a sporty (by mid-1970s standards) option package available on Chevelles... sort of the Chevrolet equivalent of Pontiac's original Grand Am.
http://blog.al.com/engine-block/2009/09/BB%20Laguna%20S3.jpg

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 2):
Since this would be a rear driver, could an El Camino be a spinoff?

I'm not sure there's a market for such a vehicle in the US, but the Dodge Neon Coupe-style forward-slanting "B" pillars would certainly lend themselves easily to that body style.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8748 times:

While I'm all for RWD cars, will people looking at Scion, Kia, Hyundai, Honda actually be willing to go RWD?


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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8745 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
but want something sportier than a Sonic or even a Cruze. Chevy clearly needs something to compete with the Scion FR-S and Tc, Kia Forte Coupe, and the new Hyundai Veloster.

Really the only competition lies somewhere between the Forte Koup and the Tiburon. The TC is a joke of a car since no one can take it seriously other than the 16-19 demographic of HS girls and the Veloster is as good as dead in the USA with 3 doors. The avg. joe is about as forgiving of such brilliant ideas as 2/1 door as he is about wagons in this country. This situation that GM is in sort of reminds me of Honda (albeit they have nothing on the larger scale) where you discontinue a 2 person sport coupe and have really nothing exciting in a 2 or a 4 door version to replace it with.

Quoting TSS (Reply 7):
I'm not sure there's a market for such a vehicle in the US, but the Dodge Neon Coupe-style forward-slanting "B" pillars would certainly lend themselves easily to that body style.

Run a survey at your local taqueria and you will be surprised...


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5488 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8744 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
While I'm all for RWD cars, will people looking at Scion, Kia, Hyundai, Honda actually be willing to go RWD?

It it's priced right, gets rave reviews and reliability they will come.



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8739 times:

Does the body shape remind anyone else of a 1-Series coupe?

User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1642 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8732 times:

Looks like shit!!!!! When are these people going to learn how to design cars? Looks like something taken out of the movie Cars.. so pathetic.


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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15796 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8678 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
While I'm all for RWD cars, will people looking at Scion, Kia, Hyundai, Honda actually be willing to go RWD?

They will if they're smart.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 11):
Does the body shape remind anyone else of a 1-Series coupe?

A little bit, at least a rather poorly styled one.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7592 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8666 times:

cough cough BMW 1 series coupe cough

http://www.autospecifications.org/car-reviews/wp-content/uploads/bmw-1-series-coupe-2.jpg


User currently offlinecorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8638 times:

Looks ok but please don't ruin the Chevelle name!

User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8637 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
cough cough BMW 1 series coupe cough

cough cough '65-'66 Chrysler cough cough
http://pics.livejournal.com/mckitterick/pic/00032p81

 



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8634 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 5):

What GM should do is send the Holden Commodore Ute (with the V-8 of course) here, and sell it as a Chevy El Camino - I mean, why not? GM is importing the Caprice PPV "cop car"? There's got to me some empty space on the cargo ship for some Utes, right??

Back before they killed off Pontiac, they were supposed to send it to the US as the Pontiac G8 ST for the 2010 model year. They should have stuck with bringing it to the US and sold it as an El Camino, as Chevy really made a mistake with the SSR several years earlier (which was more of a high-end "truck" than a modern El Camino).

Why not resurrect the Nova name? To me, this concept reminds me of the 1968-74 Nova. Just as the first generation Camaro was the design inspiration for the current Camaro, I see a bit of the third generation Nova in this concept.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7592 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8626 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 16):

cough cough '65-'66 Chrysler cough cough

I don't believe coupés can have 4 doors, calling a 4 door a coupé is just marketing BS.


User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3284 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8580 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 18):
Why not resurrect the Nova name?

Because Chevy ruined the sporty image of the Nova with the Corolla based subcompact they built in the Fremont NUMMI plant with Toyota in the mid to late 1980s - and then renamed the Nova the Geo Prizm when GM started the generally awful Geo brand (remember Chevy-Geo dealerships?). Name is too tarnished, in my opinion. But Chrysler/Fiat just brought back the Dodge Dart, so who knows? I'd like to see the Code 130-R named the Chevelle (but some younger buyers might confuse Chevelle with "Chevette") or,even better, the Laguna.... if GM decides to build it at all.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7592 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8576 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 19):
Why not resurrect the Nova name?

I didn't say this!


User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3284 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8570 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 20):
I didn't say this!

Sorry, A.net technical issues once again?



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8557 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 10):

It it's priced right, gets rave reviews and reliability they will come.

I don't know, too many people I know have a fear of RWD come winter (and yes, I have read the RWD vs. FWD threads on here). Not saying its a big deal, but for the general public, it may be. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Personally, I could see this being more of a spin off of the Cadillac ATS and going against other small RWD cars, but then not under the Chevy badge and not against small FWD cars, but like I said, guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
They will if they're smart.

We are talking about North American's here right?  


Knowing GM, they'll brand it the Nova and in a few years time they'll redesign the headlights, grill and taillights and re-brand it the Chevelle  

Seriously, the Chevelle and Nova names are dead, let them RIP they've had a great run, no point in resurecting a name that has little to do with a new car. Unless this car can be heavilly moded and go up against Camaros and Mustangs, leave it be.

The same goes for Chrysler with the Dart and Charger. Charger's were always a big ass 2 door coupe, don't know what a 4 door sedan has to do with that heritage like the current model.



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8498 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 18):
Quoting TSS (Reply 16):

cough cough '65-'66 Chrysler cough cough

I don't believe coupés can have 4 doors, calling a 4 door a coupé is just marketing BS.

As proof of how both the Chevrolet Code 130R concept and the BMW 1-Series coupe have the same side styling as '65-'66 Chryslers (on much, much shorter chassis, of course), perhaps this is a better example-



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2722 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8487 times:

I think I got it...Chevy Vega  

25 Post contains images zippyjet : I got you one better! How about the Chevy Corvair On a serious note, what do y'all think about this RWD Chevy being the next incarnation of the Chevy
26 stasisLAX : The Monza from the 70s was NEVER the true "sports coupe" it was supposed to be. It was intended to be rotary engine powered, but with the Oil Embargo
27 Post contains links and images Superfly : I like that! Another good name would be the Nova. I also think it would be great if there was a Holden Monaro-based Chevrolet coupe (most recent Pont
28 Post contains images KiwiRob : I think the Opel Monza was a better looking car than the Chevy Monza.
29 PHLBOS : Instead of Nova, how about using the old Chevy II badge (which was the original '63 Nova) for the C130R?
30 Post contains images zippyjet : I remember driving them back in the day. One of the worst handling sloppy built vehicles. I was thinking Chevy II. How about Vega 21? Better yet, how
31 IMissPiedmont : That thing is every bit as ugly as the Camaro. Is the Chevrolet design department being run by clowns?
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