aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 7588 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (4 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1740 times:
Quoting sw733 (Reply 7): Seems to me they just stole this idea from James May.
...and what a terrible copy it is! His looked better, it was more interesting and certainly a greater pleasure to drive.
Quoting mham001 (Reply 8): That's ok, the Germans are finally onboard the hybrid train. Expect good things to happen in the segment.
Diesel is a much more popular way to save fuel (and money at the time of purchase) in Europe, which is why small hybrids haven't caught on here. There is the odd E-class customer who wants to show some good will, but wouldn't be caught dead in a Diesel... and that's it, essentially.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
mham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2557 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (4 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1712 times:
Quoting aloges (Reply 11): Diesel is a much more popular way to save fuel (and money at the time of purchase) in Europe, which is why small hybrids haven't caught on here. There is the odd E-class customer who wants to show some good will, but wouldn't be caught dead in a Diesel... and that's it, essentially.
When they figure out they can fuel most of their driving by plugging into those bright shiny solar panels your government just paid for, even the staunchest dieselhead will see the light.
When they come out with diesel hybrids, what will a good dieselhead do?
af773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2505 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (4 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1673 times:
I realize this isn't a Toyota conversion, though I do think Toyota should make a Prius MPV, bigger than the Prius V and smaller than the Sienna. But I wouldn't buy it cause I have a distaste for Toyotas.
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 6127 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1598 times:
That is more than a bit ugly. Looks like a poor little Prius grew a goiter.
It would seem that Toyota could develop a small van type wagon and use a lot of the Prius technology. More like a Mazda5 than the abortion they delivered.
seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 8614 posts, RR: 19 Reply 18, posted (4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1530 times:
Quoting aloges (Reply 11): Diesel is a much more popular way to save fuel (and money at the time of purchase) in Europe, which is why small hybrids haven't caught on here.
Could there be diesel electric hybrids? Like a Prius (not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP) but with a diesel engine instead?
Couldn't the designers think of a way to make the camper actually look... good... on the Prius? I like the concept but it looks just awful.
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swissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1711 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1503 times:
Quoting seb146 (Reply 18): Could there be diesel electric hybrids? Like a Prius (not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP) but with a diesel engine instead?
Ahh... no because no one likes diesel joke aside.... would like to see numbers from a diesel electric...
GrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1448 times:
Quoting seb146 (Reply 18): Could there be diesel electric hybrids? Like a Prius (not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP) but with a diesel engine instead?
It exists already. Peugeot already put one on the market:
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25 oldeuropean: There are already several models by Peugeot and Citroen, which are btw. much better looking than the Prius. http://www.ds5.citroen.co.uk/uk/ I'm sure
26 seb146: I have a PT, but I have chosen not to add a phallus to it. That would make my PT look as bad as this Prius. Since it is standard PT look, it is AWESO
27 tugger: I guess this is a case of "You are what you drive!". So who wants to drive one? Tugg
28 mham001: The problem with diesel hybrids is that the buyer will take 2 price premium hits. Both the diesel engine and the hybrid drivetrain are premiums over
29 AvObserver: Not really bad. Not fun but pleasant enough on a normal commute. Not so good as the Ford Fusion Hybrid but that didn't have a folddown back seat and
30 AvObserver: Here's a reasonable alternative to the above if you could get a Totota dealer to install a towing package on a Prius: http://www.princesscraft.com/cam
31 Aesma: Diesel engines that take cooking oil are old NA engines, not modern turbo common rail ones. I don't know how it works in the US but here it's even il
32 Superfly: A recalled car? You should put a Buch/Cheney or McCain/Palin and NRA bumper sticker on your Prius to confuse people. You did own a Gremlin, Pacer and
33 Aesma: I'm just talking about the concept, not the realization.
34 mham001: By regurgitating that trash with the common knee-jerk republican response, you help kill one concept that can relieve us from our foreign oil addicti
35 Superfly: ??????? ??????? How does one rationally respond to such a comment? Just about every member here that's been reading my post in the almost 12 years I'
36 Dreadnought: I find it pretty fitting, as the people who buy hybrids tend to be pricks.
37 Superfly: LOL! Understood. Otherwise, I'd recommend a Ford Pinto.
38 mham001: You are missing all the political hoopla here about the Volt. Every idiot (sorry to say) republican pulls out some cheap-s**t shot at the Volt at eve
39 Superfly: Wrong. 1970s Lincolns. Anyhow, the Cadillac you are talking about wasn't subsidized and a government pet project.
40 mham001: OK. Many of which were victims of multiple recalls. BFD. Not really pertinent to the conversation, eh? That Cadillac and all cars were/are heavily su
41 Superfly: No they were not. If they were, then that would mean every car made was subsidized from the Vega up to the Fleetwood. Put down the Ralph Nader conspi
43 Fly2HMO: Wrong http://www.greasecar.com/ One of the most common veg oil conversions in the US is done on VW TDI cars, which are common rail + turbocharged. Yo
44 DocLightning: I'm going to ask you to carefully consider all of my possible answers to your post and then decide whether you REALLY want me to answer that question
47 DocLightning: Smart man. Look, if you want a camper, get a camper. If you want the most fuel-efficient mid-sized car on the market (yes, even more efficient than t
48 mham001: Of course they were. The entire industry is subsidized by our tax money funneled into oil and road development. That oil subsidy in particular allowe
49 Superfly: Still crying about the demise of the street cars in the 1950s? Not sure how you drag Bill O'reilly and Limbaugh in to a discussion about a camper opt
50 KiwiRob: I have a Touran TDI which very clearly states do not use vegitabel fat in the user manual and beside the filler cap. If something goes wrong your war
51 Superfly: Of course not. The Griesel gearheads do things that are not in the owners manual and not sanctioned by the manufacture. I can't think of any griesel
52 AvObserver: Wasn't the car I wanted, just the one I felt I needed, given some gas price projections I've seen. And actually, the other 3 cars you mentioned had s
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