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CNN Puts UK Capital In Norfolk  
User currently offlineRussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 4953 posts, RR: 25
Posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 899 times:

I wouldn't mind, but we are not talking about some random provincial town, it's the capital city! You would think they might at least put London in the right place.

Also, why on earth point out Cornwall as the only other point of reference on a map supposedly connected with a story about the tabloid phone-hacking scandal?? Bizarre.

Before anyone gets offended, this is not intended as US-bashing. Such geographical idiocy and sloppy journalism irks me wherever it is encountered.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-desired-says-London-NORFOLK.html


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 36437 posts, RR: 86
Reply 1, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 877 times:

I see this all the time in the news.
They often don't get their facts straight, give biased news and can never accurately predict the weather so I'm not surprised that they're geography is inaccurate as well.


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User currently offlinestarbuk7 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 466 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 831 times:

When I first read the thread title I thought Norfolk, Virginia and thought that is way far off, but after clicking on the link I could tell at first glance that London is not where they show it, it is to the south west of the location they show.

There are far to many students graduating High School and College nowadays that have now clue where places and countries are at on a map because I do not think they teach geography any more.

User currently offlineRussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 4953 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 818 times:

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 2):
When I first read the thread title I thought Norfolk, Virginia

I did think afterwards that people might make that mistake!


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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 2753 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 794 times:

I live in Norfolk, and it would be very nice for our city to run the country. Though I don't think many fellow residents of Norwich would like to rename our city London  

signol


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 36437 posts, RR: 86
Reply 5, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 772 times:

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 2):
There are far to many students graduating High School and College nowadays that have now clue where places and countries are at on a map because I do not think they teach geography any more.

I never forget my 2nd. grade teacher telling the class that Connecticut bordered New Jersey.  Wow!
I kept telling the class that New York cuts through the middle of those two states and that is where New York City is located. She and the rest of the class thought I was trying to show off but didn't know what I was talking about but I was clearly in the right.
This was back in early 1981.
I don't think its ever been taught in schools.

Another thing that bugs me is when people describe a city as a region of a country.
I used to hear some people in SFO say "I hate the South but New Orleans is the only part of the South I like".   
New Orleans is a city, not a region. The Bayou, the Blue Ridge Mountains or Appalachia would be considered a region.


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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 724 times:

At least they got the correct island. Partial credit.


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 698 times:

It's not the first time CNN make a geography mistake:



Here they put Toulouse in the middle of the Alps, Paris somewhere near Reims, Rennes somewhere near Le Mans, Lyon is close to Limoges, Cannes is where Montpellier stands. Only Lille seems to be where it should be.



Here, the city of Cannes is in Gijon, Spain.



Here they put Switzerland in Czech Republic.



Here Queensland is in Tasmania.

I'm sure there are more!


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 2697 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 673 times:

Ohh I thought you meant Norfolk, VA too. I guess that's not too far off, if that flashed on the screen I don't think I would've noticed it wasn't on London. Airline route maps are notorious for misplacing cities!


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User currently offlineU2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 632 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 8):
I guess that's not too far off

Yeah, only 100+ miles....  

Astounding ignorance from CNN. How difficult can it be to place a capital city on a map?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li11ZQqZHQM  Smile

Note- I am in no way suggesting that all Americans are quite that ignorant. I'm sure it's a very small minority. They just tend to be a loud minority.

[Edited 2012-01-31 12:35:08]

User currently offlineRussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 4953 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 621 times:

Quoting U2380 (Reply 9):
How difficult can it be to place a capital city on a map?

Indeed. And, as I said in the opening post, in a story about the phone-hacking scandal you choose London and.........CORNWALL as the only two points of reference??????? Bizarre.


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 2697 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 613 times:

Quoting U2380 (Reply 9):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 8):
I guess that's not too far off

Yeah, only 100+ miles....  

Well 1: not that far off compared to Norfolk, VA

2: only a few inches or centimeters off on the map they showed.

All you'd need is a guy to have a brain fart and not think twice about where he is putting the dot and there you go


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User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 612 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 7):

In the last 11 years, you only found 4 instances of CNN messing up a map?

People make mistakes. Smart people makes mistakes. Remember the Mars probe that was designed using metric measurements and built using imperial? Oops. I wonder how many battles were lost simply because a commanding officer made a mistake. People make mistakes. It's life.

If you're the exception to the rule, I'd love to fly you out here and meet you... and also quiz you on a plethora of stuff and ask you for advice on what events to bet on, since you're never wrong.

Kidding aside, you'd expect better from CNN - but you'd also expect better from people such as airline mechanics who put peoples' lives on the line daily. In the end, it is not a big deal that CNN messed something up. They push some of these stories out so quickly that they are still editing the content when the first bit of the story begins to air. If this so seriously affects your life that you are losing sleep over it, you should seek qualified professional help.


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User currently offlineU2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 609 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 11):
Well 1: not that far off compared to Norfolk, VA

They were trying to plot London, they just 'happened' to plot it in Norfolk, UK.

[Edited 2012-01-31 13:04:15]

User currently offlineRussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 4953 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 609 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 11):
Well 1: not that far off compared to Norfolk, VA

Alternatively, majorly far off in terms of the size of the UK, and the fact that it is the capital city we are talking about.


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 2697 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 573 times:

Quoting U2380 (Reply 13):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 11):
Well 1: not that far off compared to Norfolk, VA

What's that got to do with it?
They were trying to plot London, they just 'happened' to plot it in Norfolk, UK.

Well I said:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 8):
Ohh I thought you meant Norfolk, VA too. I guess that's not too far off

So yeah, compared to Norfolk VA (which I thought of when I read the title) mistaking it for Norfolk, UK "is not that bad" comparatively

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 11):
Well 1: not that far off compared to Norfolk, VA

Alternatively, majorly far off in terms of the size of the UK, and the fact that it is the capital city we are talking about.

Yes, but when you have a random American at CNN plotting where London is on the map, I can easily see where a mistake was made


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User currently offlineU2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 568 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 15):
So yeah, compared to Norfolk VA (which I thought of when I read the title) mistaking it for Norfolk, UK "is not that bad" comparatively

Ah right. I see now. My Apologies.

User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 544 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 12):
In the last 11 years, you only found 4 instances of CNN messing up a map?

That's the ones I had in mind, I don't really have the time to do an extensive search...

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 12):
People make mistakes. Smart people makes mistakes

Yes they do, me included. However, how long does it take to do a search on Google maps? 10 seconds? Was it difficult to double-check before putting the map live?

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 12):
In the end, it is not a big deal that CNN messed something up

No it's not. It's not like we're talking about a godforsaken village in the middle of the Gobi desert. It's only the capital city of one of the major countries in this world  

[Edited 2012-01-31 13:33:22]


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 2697 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 532 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 18):
Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 12):
People make mistakes. Smart people makes mistakes

Yes they do, me included. However, how long does it take to do a search on Google maps? 10 seconds? Was it difficult to double-check before putting the map live?

There have been times, in my mind, I'm 100% sure of something and don't even think twice about it... only to have a brain fart and am wrong. I can see it easily happening, that person knows where London is 100% (in his mind) but is subconsciously thinking of Norfolk or whatever and places it there. I'm pretty sure the person wasn't if-fy about it, was "pretty sure" London was there, and placed it there. I think it was more of a "d'oh!" moment than a "oh yeah probably should've googled it" moment


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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 3557 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 522 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Such geographical idiocy and sloppy journalism irks me wherever it is encountered.

I like how they also point out:

Quote:
This comes only a few weeks after Fox News managed to wipe Croatia completely from its map of Europe.

.
Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 2):
When I first read the thread title I thought Norfolk, Virginia and thought that is way far off, but after clicking on the link I could tell at first glance that London is not where they show it, it is to the south west of the location they show.

There's even a little river that leads to it that you can see on the map....

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 18):
It's not like we're talking about a godforsaken village in the middle of the Gobi desert. It's only the capital city of one of the major countries in this world

I know! I mean how can you do that! Or how could TF1 have mixed up Sweden and Finland (and this was with 10 seconds of googling, I could find more I am sure)  .
Quote:
French television gives viewers a geography lesson by mixing up Sweden and Finland on a map of Europe during a prime time news report.
After a geographical faux pas less than a fortnight ago when it mixed up Wallonia and Flanders during a prime time news broadcast during a report on Belgium, France's main private television channel TF1 has "gone one better".
This time around though it moved the map, so-to-speak, of Scandinavia by placing a whole country - Sweden - a little further to the East - in place of neighbouring Finland to be exact.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/291801

These kinds of errors happen to everyone everywhere.

Tugg

[Edited 2012-01-31 13:53:05]


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 496 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 19):
I know! I mean how can you do that! Or how could TF1 have mixed up Sweden and Finland (and this was with 10 seconds of googling, I could find more I am sure)

And you assume that because there is a French flag on my profile, I watch this channel? Or you assume I live in France too?  
Quoting tugger (Reply 20):
These kinds of errors happen to everyone everywhere.

I totally agree! That's what I said above. But these geographic mistakes happen too many times on CNN to my taste. A bit more efforts please  


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