I have to say I am surprised they didn't consider these issues before using the song. Seems to me that the case is reasonable, though I will freely admit that I am not familiar with all the nuances of copyright law.
Maybe he could get someone to write a new song, Eye Of The Newt.
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 2696 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 652 times:
Haha, kind of ridiculous, but I hope it's to bring light of the copyright debate and all. From the article:
"The complaint states that the violation it alleges is intentional since Gingrich is "sophisticated and knowledgeable" concerning copyright laws."
Sounds like it's a stab at Gingrich rather than the author being upset. Where does Gingrich stand on SOPA and all? (yes I know SOPA's dead, it's the debate I'm talking about)
ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 20630 posts, RR: 62 Reply 2, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 516 times:
This is routine. Bands are artists. Artists are generally liberal. Bands and singer/songwriters don't generally like it when a Republican candidate uses their music. They say it must be licensed, but they refuse to do it. And often, they don't actually have the right to do license it out, as the recorded version being used is copyrighted by the record label, not the band. The band retains the right to perform the work, but not to distribute it.
The problem is, using popular music at rallies is a longstanding tradition. Nobody pays. Thus, if there is value, and a band must approve, then there is an unpaid donation of goods to the campaign. And generally, the value of using the song over and over is going to be way more than the donation limit. And it must be declared as a political contribution. Using a song of value for free would be a violation of campaign finance law.
Same goes for public appearances by celebs at rallies. If a celeb usually charges a fee for such appearances, but appears for free because they like a candidate, they are again technically donating their fee to the campaign.
It's a sticky wicket, and it's why nobody really pushes the issue, because if it does go to court and then to appeal, the result might be something nobody is happy with, candidates, bands, record labels, etc.
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vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 6509 posts, RR: 29 Reply 3, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 503 times:
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 2): They say it must be licensed, but they refuse to do it. And often, they don't actually have the right to do license it out, as the recorded version being used is copyrighted by the record label, not the band. The band retains the right to perform the work, but not to distribute it.
Can you point out examples? Because for most artists who speak out and ask politicians to stop using their music, I'd assume they DO own the publishing rights (given that it's usually big-name stars who have probably had the opportunity/ability to buy their publishing from the record company).
But you're right, they can still ask, and the politicians can agree, even if there's no legal backing. Wouldn't look terribly good if they just said, "no, screw you, I'm going to keep using your song".
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BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5007 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 433 times:
I say let Newt use Eye of the Tiger as much as he wants...but there's a catch, he has to jogging up to the poduim in a tank top and 60" waist boxing shorts.
....all I can say is 'reinforce' those stairs when he hits them at top speed of .09 mph.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 36435 posts, RR: 86 Reply 8, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 430 times:
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 5): Quoting Ken777 (Reply 4):
Or heavy metal guys?
Less clearly defined than punk rockers, but certainly many of them are liberal.
The newer, whiny metal guys since the 90s are more liberal but the REAL metal-heads that knew how to shred, rocked hard, drove fast cars and banged hot babes in the 70s & 80s were on the right side of the fence.
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 4): Are you trying to say that the only musicians who are conservative are the accordion players who love Polkas?
Those musicians are liberal too. I saw several awesome hard-rockin' accordion bands in Madison, Wisconsin a few years ago. They were creative left-wingers.
The only prominent rock accordion player I know of is Dennis DeYoung of Styx. Not sure what his politics is.
flanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1506 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 420 times:
Jim Peterik was on Roe and Roeper on 890 WLS here in Chicago the other day and he told them that Frank basically doesn't like Newt.
I am sure there is a podcast of the conversation on 890WLS.
Mr. Peterik said he didn't care what so ever that Newt is using the song and he actually liked it. But Frank on the other hand seems to have ideological reasons behind the lawsuit.
seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 8613 posts, RR: 19 Reply 10, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 397 times:
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 2): Bands are artists. Artists are generally liberal.
HA!!
Perhaps the writer of the song does not support Newt, but, maybe, Ron Paul? Ever think of that? Naw... Couldn't be... Artists only vote far left-wing extremist. Like Jon Voigt or Chuck Norris.
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66 Reply 11, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 383 times:
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 2): This is routine. Bands are artists. Artists are generally liberal. Bands and singer/songwriters don't generally like it when a Republican candidate uses their music. They say it must be licensed, but they refuse to do it. And often, they don't actually have the right to do license it out, as the recorded version being used is copyrighted by the record label, not the band.
Not the first time. Three years ago John McCain and Sarah Palin got grief over the use of the song Barracuda.
Sad part was that the campaign paid the licensing house for the rights to use the song but when Heart found out they threw a hissy fit because they didn't like John and Sarah's. And screamed for them to stop using it.
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