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F1: Off Season 2011-2012 Part 2  
User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

I could have sworm that there was a Part 1 thread, but I cannot seem to find it.

The new season is just a month and a half away!

This year we should have a new race in the U.S. (I want to go but don't know yet if i'll make it!)

Both Caterham (Lotus) and McLaren have released images of their 2012 challengers so far, All other teams aside from Mercedes, Marussia and HRT should be unveiled before the first test on Tuesday.

Caterham's new car -nothing amazing
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97174

McLaren's new challenger - Seems rather the same as previous years (although it's a complete rework apparently)
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97248

Commenting on the McLaren - I'm thinking here that we're not seeing the complete story here. It looks rather ordinary. I assume there will be another couple noses, and some hidden engineering marvels that increase its speed.

Should be an interesting couple weeks!

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User currently onlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Commenting on the McLaren - I'm thinking here that we're not seeing the complete story here. It looks rather ordinary. I assume there will be another couple noses, and some hidden engineering marvels that increase its speed.

According to McLaren themselves they are expecting questions to be asked by the other teams over the cars legality. They claim they have been too conservative in the past and are pushing the boundaries a lot more this time.

Seems an odd thing to say though- they'd have to be pretty sure it was legit to be inviting scrutiny from other teams. Maybe trying to avoid the problem that most of the teams seem to have from time to time where Charlie OK's something after a casual enquiry, and then changes his mind mid-season after presumably being overruled by the Feds.

In any case, they need a fast start for once. If they get one it could be pretty interesting seeing if we get some intra-team fireworks.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 1):
Seems an odd thing to say though- they'd have to be pretty sure it was legit to be inviting scrutiny from other teams. Maybe trying to avoid the problem that most of the teams seem to have from time to time where Charlie OK's something after a casual enquiry, and then changes his mind mid-season after presumably being overruled by the Feds.

That's probably what they're expecting to happen.

Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Commenting on the McLaren - I'm thinking here that we're not seeing the complete story here. It looks rather ordinary. I assume there will be another couple noses, and some hidden engineering marvels that increase its speed.

What's been launched is probably different to whats going to be in testing next week.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4527 times:

McLaren was the first team to present their new car for the 2012 season - the MP4-27.
The launch of the new McLaren is the official start of the F1 2012 season.

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1

MP4-27 technical specification
Chassis

Monocoque: McLaren-moulded carbonfibre composite incorporating front and side impact structures
Front suspension: Inboard torsion bar/damper system operated by pushrod and bell crank with a double wishbone arrangement
Rear suspension: Inboard torsion bar/damper system operated by pullrod and bell crank with a double wishbone arrangement
Electronics: McLaren Electronic Systems. Including chassis control, engine control, data acquisition, dashboard, alternator, sensors, data analysis and telemetry.
Bodywork: Carbon-fibre composite. Separate engine cover, sidepods and floor. Structural nose with integral front wing.
Driver-operated drag reduction system
Tyres: Pirelli P Zero
Radio: Kenwood
Race wheels: Enkei
Brake callipers: Akebono
Master cylinders: Akebono
Batteries: GS Yuasa Corporation
Steering: McLaren power-assisted
Instruments: McLaren Electronic Systems
Paint solutions: AkzoNobel Car Refinishes using Sikkens products

Engine

Type: Mercedes-Benz FO 108Z
Capacity: 2.4 litres
Cylinders: 8
Maximum rpm: 18,000
Bank angle: 90°
Piston bore maximum: 98mm
Number of valves: 32
Fuel: ExxonMobil High Performance Unleaded (5.75% bio fuel)
Spark plugs: NGK racing spark plugs specially designed for Formula 1
Lubricants: Mobil 1 - combining greater performance, protection and cooling with increased economy and lower emissions
Weight: 95kg (minimum FIA regulation weight)

KERS Hybrid

Type: Mercedes-Benz
e-Motor: Engine-mounted electrical motor/generator
ESS: Integrated energy storage cells and power electronics
Power: 60 kW

Transmission

Gearbox: McLaren-moulded carbon-fibre composite.
Integral rear impact structure
Gears: Seven forward and one reverse
Gear selection: McLaren seamless shift, hand-operated
Clutch: Carbon/carbon, hand-operated
Lubricants: Mobil

See the pictures of the new MP4-27 at the launch ceremony

https://picasaweb.google.com/111156109945808632785/McLarenLaunch2012?authkey=Gv1sRgCITEw4qVk727VQ&noredirect=1

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes reveals MP4-27

Official Vodafone McLaren Mercedes web site technical launch gallery

http://www.mclaren.com/page/mp4-27-technical-launch--gallery

I hope Lewis will give up his showbiz aspirations and friends and he will fully concentrate on his future in Formula 1. This year could be his last chance as there are many talented young drivers waiting for his seat.

As for Jenson, I am sure he will do very well again in 2012 up to his best as usual. He has got the right environment and talent to succeed.

Good luck McLaren Mercedes. Give us a great 2012 season!

  



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User currently offlineDano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

Ferrari have launched their 2012 challenger...

http://badgergp.com/2012/02/new-ferrari-f1-f12-car-launch/


Nice nose!  Wow!



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User currently offlineDano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Force India launched their 2012 challenger this morning too.

http://badgergp.com/2012/02/force-india-f1-car-launch/

And your starter question for 10...

Name 1 thing that this car and the Ferrari F1 car have in common?



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 4):
Ferrari have launched their 2012 challenger...

http://badgergp.com/2012/02/new-ferrari-f1-f12-car-launch/


Thank you for posting this. I like the car.

There is a really nice article about the new F-2012 launch in today's La Gazzetta dello Sport with the two Ferrari drivers comments and impressions, also Stefano Domenicali and the big boss, Luca di Montezemolo.

"The new Ferrari is born. Her name is F-2012".

http://www.gazzetta.it/Formula1/02-0...tazione-via-web--81221039689.shtml

You can use Google Translate to get the article in your own language.

Article says "photos to be posted later" so check the link later for pictures.

Looking at the new F-2012 seems that the new McLaren's nose may not be legit?

   

As for the new Vijay Mallya 05 let's see how it will do during testings.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4508 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):
Looking at the new F-2012 seems that the new McLaren's nose may not be legit?

The front of the McLaren chassis is lower and they don't need the step down nose.


User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12872 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4494 times:
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Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 4):
Ferrari have launched their 2012 challenger...
Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 5):
Force India launched their 2012 challenger this morning too.

Damn, those are ugly, especially the Ferrari.   



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2869 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

When they wrote the new rules, I hope the FIA did not have that kind of design in mind. Those noses are ugly. The look like a boxer's nose, completely bended because of punches...

[Edited 2012-02-03 07:40:17]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4462 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9):
Those noses are ugly.

Don't worry. They will be changed again next year.

 

I am waiting to see the 2012 version of the Red Bulls, the Saubers and the SchumiCar.

I wish so much that Schumi could win himself an 8th F1 WDC title but considering the car I think he has almost no chances for it to happen.

A Red Bull for Schumi!!!!!

     



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4443 times:

I just saw this on BBC News

Sauber's technical director James Key has left the Swiss team to take up a new role in the UK.
Key, who has been with Sauber for two years, did not reveal what the new role was or whether it was in Formula 1.
...
Sauber said that Key's responsibilities would be shared by the heads of the four engineering departments.
The team's new car will be launched on Monday 6 February, ahead of the start of pre-season testing on 7 February in Jerez, Spain.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16877694

 



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 11):

Looks like they'll be off to a slow start since they've lost their Key.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4337 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 12):
Looks like they'll be off to a slow start since they've lost their Key.

I had a good laugh!

 



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User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):
Looking at the new F-2012 seems that the new McLaren's nose may not be legit?

It's very legit as stated already by Bill142. There will more designs that differs from Ferrari and Force India, but this does not mean that they are not legit. Just different approaches by the teams.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 12):
Looks like they'll be off to a slow start since they've lost their Key.

Maybe they can get a spare Key that actually works now.



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4317 times:

The new Sauber has been launched......

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97335



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4304 times:

Quoting sudden (Reply 15):
The new Sauber has been launched......

Thank you for the link. I had the launch date wrong as I thought it was tomorrow!   
I am not really enthused by the way they mixed the colours on the car but this has no real importance.
Sergio is no longer a F1 newbie this year. We will see how well him and Kamui will do this season.
I hope the tech team can manage well without the Key.

There will be Schumi, Kamui, Kimi, but still no Kubi.  

The 2012 season will be highly competitive with 6 World Champions on the grid.

     



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5743 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4304 times:
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Quoting sudden (Reply 15):
The new Sauber has been launched......

I think part of the engine deal with Ferrari included a clause that forced Sauber to design a car that would make the F2012 look good.

.. and they complied!!!



If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4297 times:

From the Sauber F1 website:

Unveiling & Roll-out

Hinwil/Jerez de la Frontera, 6th February 2012 – Today, Monday, the Sauber F1 Team launches its new car for the 2012 FIA Formula One World Championship. Drivers Kamui Kobayashi (25) and Sergio Pérez (22) unveil the Sauber C31-Ferrari at the Jerez de la Frontera circuit in Spain, where on Tuesday official Formula One pre-season testing will get underway. For filming purposes the C31 will cover its initial laps today.

http://www.sauberf1team.com/en/news....auber_F1_Team_launchesC31_in_Jerez

I just wish they could find more sponsors. They need to lobby Japanese companies more.

  

Red Bull will unveil the RB8 this afternoon.

[Edited 2012-02-06 05:31:01]


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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7819 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

This years crop of F1 cars are about the ugliest to date.

Sauber



Lotus



Force India



Caterham



Ferrari




Red Bull

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KBaXikQUu-4/Ty_R6OUY1YI/AAAAAAAATWE/H1IS1XsnFX4/s1600/Red-Bull-RB8-2012-F1-Car.jpg

McLaren, I wonder if McLaren will be the only team with a pretty car?



User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4274 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 19):
McLaren, I wonder if McLaren will be the only team with a pretty car?

I'm also wondering if Pretty Car = Slower Car :-/


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 19):
This years crop of F1 cars are about the ugliest to date.

Before we know it we have gotten used to the new look.  



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineAcheron From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1723 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

The C31 looks like the bastard child of the Caterham CT01 and the FW33.

User currently onlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1626 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4223 times:

Any idea on why Caterham and Lotus went with the different style nose bump than the rest of the cars released so far (sans the McLaren)?

Personally, I can't wait to see the W03.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17146 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 19):
This years crop of F1 cars are about the ugliest to date.

That nose section looks awful!



Work Hard, Fly Right
25 Dano1977 : I wondering what those airducts on the nose hump are for on the Red Bull? Some kind of device that sends air flow to the bottom of the car to add down
26 GrahamHill : Not sure what it is. Am I optimistic by saying that it might be another brainwave from Newey that will put the RBR on top for another year?
27 Post contains images CXB77L : Here's the new Williams Renault FW34: Unfortunately, it has that ugly stepped noes like all other cars released so far, bar the McLaren. I wonder if M
28 KiwiRob : Looks like Williams have the same arrangement.
29 Post contains images scbriml : Adrian Newey says it's ony for driver cooling.
30 Acheron : There is equally a chance of them being the ones who missed the boat. Particularly if Newey went for a stepped nose.
31 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Kimi is back and he wants everybody to know about it! Kimi Raikkonen sets fastest pre-season testing time on F1 return By Andrew Benson Chief F1 write
32 sudden : Would not surpise me one bit. hahahaha.....now that's funny.
33 Post contains links and images sudden : Gary Anderson clarifies a few things that might put some discussions here to rest.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16864721
34 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Looks like the 2012 Bahrain F1 Grand Prix will be cancelled. Formula 1 has been urged to call off the Bahrain Grand Prix by a group of leading British
35 Bill142 : Now I understand what the rule change was that made all those dropped noses.
36 sudden : I think it's cool that Gary Anderson joins as he will be able to feed us with valuable info from the technical point of view. A strong trio they have
37 Post contains links sudden : Finally Trulli has been replaced! Petrov got his drive......... http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97552 If there is one driver I wont miss i
38 Acheron : I'm sure I'll miss the Trulli Train, though :-P
39 BlueElephant : Me too, but for what it's worth i think we have a very interesting line up this year. The likes of Hulkenburg being back and Ricciardo and Vergne who
40 Post contains links zak : 2012 Merc revealed: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-conten...s_w03_silverstone_2012-606x404.jpg
41 stealthz : I thought Sauber had the deal to make the Ferrari look good.. seems I was wrong, Mercedes have been severely slapped with the ugly stick!! I wonder i
42 zak : The logic behind the high nose is this: The higher the nose the more mass-flow of air can be under the Nose. That air is the air that can be used to
43 Post contains images MadameConcorde : As a former Bahrain race regular I received the email with the discounted tickets offer. For as much as I would like to go back to the Kingdom it seem
44 KiwiRob : Which is good because the event was crap, held on a horrible boring circuit in a country which really couldn't give a crap about F1.
45 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : This is Kamui's new bilingual Japanese/English web site with some really nice graphics. http://www.kamui-kobayashi.com/
46 sudden : Well, If you are a midfield driver I guess you need to have a site that shines the more. That probably covers it.
47 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Sadly there are no more Italian drivers in Formula 1. Drivers coming from countries with such great automobile history and great constructors like Fe
48 KiwiRob : When was the last time we actually had an Italian behind the wheel of a Formula 1 car that was any good, could win races and challenge for the F1 Driv
49 sudden : Just because Italy has a great history in car manufacturing, doesn't automatically mean that they have good race drivers. Look how good Badoer nursed
50 KiwiRob : It wouldn't surprise me if one of the Tata group companies had a crack at LeMan's, after all Jaguar is owned by Tata, they have a fine history in spo
51 Post contains images MadameConcorde : It is quite clear that you have a grudge against the humble sushi boy driving talent and his capability to make it to the F1 circuit. You would be ov
52 KiwiRob : I don't think Ferrari have had a lightweight like Kamui in one of their cars for decades.
53 GrahamHill : I agree with that. Though I am sad to see that no Italian driver will take part of the next championship, it's not going to prevent me from slepping
54 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Never mind. It will be another Red Bull year with a Seb 3rd time world title. He would still have to go a long way to beat Schumi with 7 titles.
55 zckls04 : Pay drivers are, and always have been, an integral part of Formula One at the back of the field. It always amazes me how many people forget the bad o
56 sudden : He's simply overrated. He made it to the track, but he will never make it to any of the top teams. I use him a reference cause that might make you un
57 Bill142 : Not true. They've both driven for Sauber at some point during their career.
58 sudden : I stand corrected. At least Massa got somewhere (read Ferrari).
59 Dano1977 : Probably the worst pay driver of all was Pedro Diniz He had mummy and daddies millions to shoe horn him into an F1 car (Forti, Ligier,Arrows and Saub
60 sudden : If I recall correct he paid 50 million for his ticket in to F1.
61 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : You are really a Kamui hater. Looking at the 2011 WDC standings, he is not in the tops, but he is not in the bottom either. He is a good middle, taki
62 Bill142 : There were worse. Pedro Diniz at least had super licence. There was a stage where you could plonk down your cash and get a gig. Particularly during t
63 Post contains images sudden : How about Ide who got his Super License withdrawn completely. That count as worse in my books.
64 BlueElephant : The Tabloids are reporting Lewis Hamilton is back in a relationship with his squeeze Nicole. Which could be both positive and negative. He also mentio
65 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : The two are inseparable. They are really the other one's best match. Let's hope it will be for the better. Sweet: F1 Fan makes Red Bull RB8 out of ca
66 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Thursday, February 23, 2012 Circuit de Catalunya: Testing Day Three Times Driver Car Time Laps 1. Pastor Maldonado Williams FW34 1:22.391 106 2. Micha
67 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Friday, February 24, 2012 Circuit de Catalunya: Testing Day Four Times Driver Car Time Laps 1. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber C31 1:22.312 145 2. Pastor Maldo
68 stealthz : I know the first real indication of a teams speed will be approx 18:00 March 17th or even more meanigful, a bit before 19:00 Sun 18/03. But .9 sec to
69 na : The bent noses are a joke. I cant remember uglier F1-car fronts since the times of the hideous Tyrrells or Ligiers back in the 70s. I wonder why rules
70 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : This F1 replica team from Germany have built their own full size replicas of 2010 cars, the Red Bull RB6 and the Mercedes W01. http://www.youtube.com/
71 rfields5421 : I prefer to remember the 'good old days' I'm watching Grand Prix on TCM right now.
72 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Sky Sports F1 2012 :: Are you ready? Extended version of the 'F1 like never before' promotional trailer for Sky's 'dedicated' Formula 1 HD Channel lau
73 Post contains links mad99 : Frank Williams steps down. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97786
74 Post contains links af1624 : And Kimi Raikkonen will be appearing in Top Gear as the star in a reasonably priced car on next week's episode. Will he beat Barichello's time ? http:
75 CXB77L : Well, kind of. He's stepping down from his position on the board. He'll still be Team Principal and majority stakeholder in the Williams team. But it
76 mad99 : Agreed. Williams need to do something to turn things around.
77 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Bernie Ecclestone, big money, Italian castles and la dolce vita ... Bernie Ecclestone has somehow squeezed a lifetime of extraordinary success from me
78 mad99 : Kimi goes fasted at the the end of testing. Nice the see the Toleman team doing well! Can't wait for the first race of 2012!
79 Post contains links sudden : Ferrari has hired Salo as their test driver. The translation is a bit funny, but you still get it. I guess we are just as surprised as Salo himself. h
80 stealthz : We would be if there was anything at all to indicate he had been hired as their F1 Test driver. Although looking at their pre-season form there maybe
81 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : This Japanese F1 intro is absolute genius. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CwWekNOyPc8#! Here's to Kimi's return to F1 and
82 B747forever : I cannot believe that there is less than a week until the first race weekend of 2012. I am sure that this year will be fantastic. Unfortunately I will
83 Post contains links BlueElephant : Hamilton takes Twitter questions. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17311228 Only 1 week left.
84 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I can hardly wait. Kimi is back albeit with a lesser car. Me thinks the battle this year will be between Seb and Jenson. I don't expect any miracles
85 Post contains links and images sudden : Can't wait for this season to get under way. One reason being Raikkonens return. I think he will be able to spice things up in the midfield. To be see
86 Post contains images MadameConcorde : The free practices will run middle of the night for us here in Europe with qualifyings early Saturday morning. Race will be on Sunday 7.00 AM CET. I
87 Post contains images B747forever : Though I would much rather see him in a Ferrari. But hopefully he will manage to be competitive even though he is not driving for one of the top team
88 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : This is for you. Kimi Raikkonen on Top Gear 2012 Series 18, Episode 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35f4rd5qWA0&feature=youtu.be
89 Post contains links sudden : Lotus joined partner ship with Microsoft Dynamics http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98015 Doesn't seem to be a bad deal for Lotus.
90 AF1624 : So sad to see this disappointing performance by Kimi on Top Gear. Granted the track was wet, but still... I was expecting a lot more than that. The in
91 sudden : Painful? Raikkonen is simply short on words and I think Clarkson knows that by now.
92 Post contains links BlueElephant : F1 2012: Australia! (by BlueElephant Mar 14 2012 in Non Aviation) New thread for first race.
93 mad99 : Anyone up for predictions? I reckon the first race will be more of the same. 1) Vettel 2) Hamilton 3) Alonso I would love to see Kimi on the podium.
94 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Vettel named his car Abbey. Go figure...
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