LGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2262 posts, RR: 1 Posted (3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1364 times:
I have just read about that NFL chiefs have backed for a new NFL team for London!
As a quite big American Football fan myself (NY Jets, TB Bucs) I would love this to happen. But I have heard from before when this has been bought up that a few people don't like the fact of the time zones etc... Anyway if this did happen what could the possible team name be... London Redcoats or The London Empire!
Btw it also says the next 3 London games over 3 years will all classed as St Louis Rams home games.
I am not sure if this has been talked about already as this was only just in today's paper here in the UK.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 11546 posts, RR: 27 Reply 3, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
Quoting LGWflyer (Thread starter): I am not sure if this has been talked about already as this was only just in today's paper here in the UK
The idea's been bounced around for a while now. Usually talking about a new team, but once in a while the Rams or Buccaneers are mentioned as a potential team to move there. I don't think it will happen in the near future, but I think the NFL may look for expansion soonish. LA would be a logical first move to get a team, whether that's expansion or moving.
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 1): I'm sure the players would throw a fit having to change time zones, though.
A European team would most likely play their season in blocks. 4 at home, 4 in the US, 5 at home, and 5 in the US or something like that, assuming the owners finally get their 18 game season. The season would likely be extended over the calendar more too, both as a compromise with the players for the extra games and to at least open up the possibility of giving teams playing in London a bye after returning in addition to a standard bye week.
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BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 11546 posts, RR: 27 Reply 5, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1306 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 2): I think hosting the Superbowl in London would be a great way to showcase the sport to the World.
That would be bad. You're talking about moving America's largest secular holiday overseas. People would not like that one bit, and I think that the Brits may not understand the significance. Besides, exposing Europeans to the idiocy that is the Super Bowl media days and general circus makes us look bad.
On a more practical note, the only way it could work would be to move the game back to an early or maybe mid afternoon start time to be shown live from London, which would probably not sit well with a lot of people.
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LGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2262 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1306 times:
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 1): How is the following of American Football over there?
Well I'd say there is quite a few followers over here, I know each NFL team has quite big fan bases. There also are American Football leagues, which even my town has a team. And Wembley Stadium is packed with loads of Brits for the London games.
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 1): he London Redcoats sounds very catchy, better TM that!
I think that name suits very well, now to think of some good team colours. Red and white?
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 1): I'm sure the players would throw a fit having to change time zones, though.
Yeah but actually now come to think of it for example, NY is 3 hours in front of LA. When they are in London it will be a 5 hour difference between London and NY, so I suppose an extra 2 hours won't be much bother... I hope. But then again a 8 hour difference for here and the West Coast... oh well.
LGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2262 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1290 times:
Another idea is that after the Olympics finish there will be another brand spanking new stadium avaliable. No local football (soccer) team has decided to use it so I could see this as another open oppurtunity for a team here.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 2): I think hosting the Superbowl in London would be a great way to showcase the sport to the World.
Yes as it is one of the most biggest sports events it might just work. Once the Olympics have finished here and if it goes well I could see many British people become sport obsessed, and happily see a NFL team here.
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3): The idea's been bounced around for a while now. Usually talking about a new team, but once in a while the Rams or Buccaneers are mentioned as a potential team to move there.
Wow really, If that happened I couldn't imagine some of the local fans being to pleased seeing their team move 6000 miles across the Atlantic.
ANITIX87 From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 3081 posts, RR: 16 Reply 8, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1288 times:
The next three will be St. Louis Rams home games?! How can they make a west coast team travel to London (8-hr time difference) three years in a row? The game after their London game will be a sad affair (not that most Rams games are sad already, anyway...).
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canoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1288 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 2): I think hosting the Superbowl in London would be a great way to showcase the sport to the World.
Not so fast there mister! I'm quite happy with the current start time of the SB around 4pm being a west coaster. Move the game over to London I'd have to stay up late like east coasters during MNF.
Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 6):
Well I'd say there is quite a few followers over here, I know each NFL team has quite big fan bases. There also are American Football leagues, which even my town has a team. And Wembley Stadium is packed with loads of Brits for the London games.
Lately, the NFL has been playing at least one game a year in England IIRC. Didn't the Bears/Bucs play there this year? They also hosted at least one game in Mexico City in the past. From what I saw earlier this year there was a number of ex-pats in the stands when they played in London. No doubt it's in the NFL's business plan to expand to other countries, but I'd argue if only for time/travel differences they'd start with a team in Mexico before they'd have a new team in London.
LGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2262 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1268 times:
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 9): Lately, the NFL has been playing at least one game a year in England IIRC. Didn't the Bears/Bucs play there this year? They also hosted at least one game in Mexico City in the past. From what I saw earlier this year there was a number of ex-pats in the stands when they played in London. No doubt it's in the NFL's business plan to expand to other countries, but I'd argue if only for time/travel differences they'd start with a team in Mexico before they'd have a new team in London.
Yes the Bears beat the Buccaneers 24-18. Yeah I see where you are coming from about maybe starting in Mexico first, but I honestly don't think it will happen. As the NFL has been in London for 5 years now, I feel that they are going to do London before anywhere else regardless of time zones etc. Anyway talking of Mexico and that, what about Canada? Anyway chance you'll see the NFL going there in the future also or are they not that interested in American Football?
canoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1248 times:
Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 10): Anyway talking of Mexico and that, what about Canada? Anyway chance you'll see the NFL going there in the future also or are they not that interested in American Football?
Canada already has the Canadian Football League with 8 teams, and since most of Canada's population is primarily near the border its really not that hard for someone in Toronto to see a Buffalo Bills game or a Vancouverite to come down to Seattle and see a Seahawks game. Same goes for the Lions and people in Ontario.
Mexico City or London would get a team well before Toronto would.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 15281 posts, RR: 55 Reply 13, posted (3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1247 times:
Obviously the NFL is changing their thinking with regards to the Superbowl, we are going to host the Superbowl here in New Jersey (outside in January) at Metlife Stadium in 2014. This is a huge change from the warm weather and indoor venues of previous years.
LGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2262 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1222 times:
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 12):
Canada already has the Canadian Football League with 8 teams, and since most of Canada's population is primarily near the border its really not that hard for someone in Toronto to see a Buffalo Bills game or a Vancouverite to come down to Seattle and see a Seahawks game. Same goes for the Lions and people in Ontario.
Mexico City or London would get a team well before Toronto would.
Oh right I didn't even know off a Canadian league! How popular is the Canadian version? And any chance of them sort of merging into one big North American league in the future and also say also have a few teams in Mexico too. I could imagine its quite a possibility.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 13): Obviously the NFL is changing their thinking with regards to the Superbowl, we are going to host the Superbowl here in New Jersey (outside in January) at Metlife Stadium in 2014. This is a huge change from the warm weather and indoor venues of previous years.
Yeah I bet! I was at the Metlife Stadium last January to watch the Jets play the Bills. Went to NYC for the first time, and couldn't resist not seeing a game while I was there.
canoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1221 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 13): Obviously the NFL is changing their thinking with regards to the Superbowl, we are going to host the Superbowl here in New Jersey (outside in January) at Metlife Stadium in 2014. This is a huge change from the warm weather and indoor venues of previous years.
I thought they were using the possibility of hosting a Super Bowl to allow the owners to pitch to their respective cities for new stadiums or stadium upgrades? Phoenix, Detroit and Indy all got new stadiums in advance of hosting the SB and at least in KC it was pitched as a way to replace Arrowhead.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 11546 posts, RR: 27 Reply 16, posted (3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1200 times:
Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 7): Wow really, If that happened I couldn't imagine some of the local fans being to pleased seeing their team move 6000 miles across the Atlantic.
The local fans don't necessarily care a lot, since those teams are not so hot at the moment. And for what it's worth, the fans don't really get a say at all. Outrage of the fans has never stopped teams from moving before. See Bob Irsay.
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8): The game after their London game will be a sad affair (not that most Rams games are sad already, anyway...).
Over the last few years, teams have been scheduled to have their bye week during the week after playing in London. Two weeks is more than enough time to recover, and teams usually give players much of the bye week off completely while the coaches self scout. (I think the new CBA legislates this)
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 9): Move the game over to London I'd have to stay up late like east coasters during MNF.
No you wouldn't. To make sense they'd make it a 1 pm Eastern/10 am Pacific game for an evening start in London (7 pm during standard time).
Still, not at all conducive to Super Bowl parties.
The NFL has been playing games in Canada as well. The Bills have been playing one of their home games in the Rogers Centre since 2008, plus a few preseason games. I haven't heard if they think they want to renew the deal after 2012 or not.
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WestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 591 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1150 times:
Sorry to break it to you guys, but Roger Goodell's words trump that of the owners, and he has indicated as recently as last night that the NFL "has not considered expansion" and that there is no immediate plan to do so.
Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 14): Oh right I didn't even know off a Canadian league! How popular is the Canadian version?
The CFL is pretty big up here, albeit we made a few minor changes to the rules to make the game more exciting than it already is.
Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 14): And any chance of them sort of merging into one big North American league in the future
Highly doubt it. Sure some people would love the idea but in general I think most would raise hell. It would be the death knell of the CFL and it's long tradition, which wouldn't sit very well with a lot of people (myself included). As for Mexico, the NFL is a business, and Mexico is a bad investment right now.
zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3808 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1079 times:
Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 6):
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 1):
he London Redcoats sounds very catchy, better TM that!
Not bad but here are my TM handles for an NFL team in London:
London/England "Bulldogs" The logo/mascot would be a big fat bad ass English bulldog with yellow teeth with a Bobby cap on it's head.
London "Yorkies" A muscle bound Yorkie wih a football helmet
London "Guernsies" A big ass muscle bound cow with an uder shaped like an inverted helmet with little footballs as it's penis's (things you rub/squeeze for the milk)
London "Rockers" A bunch of long haired brutes with bad teeth sporting electric guitars with footballs on it
Instead of holding the Superbowl in the UK, have the Pro Bowl, better yet a lingerae bowl or NFL cheerleader's competition
flanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1506 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1074 times:
Sorry it would be quite boring. Just take a look at the game from earlier in the season.... bunch of dead beat fans that cant get excited if their lives depended on it.
Nothing beats our own american fans at a football game.
You could have heard a cricket in that stadium.
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steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8524 posts, RR: 22 Reply 22, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 976 times:
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 19): Not bad but here are my TM handles for an NFL team in London:
London/England "Bulldogs" The logo/mascot would be a big fat bad ass English bulldog with yellow teeth with a Bobby cap on it's head.
London "Yorkies" A muscle bound Yorkie wih a football helmet
London "Guernsies" A big ass muscle bound cow with an uder shaped like an inverted helmet with little footballs as it's penis's (things you rub/squeeze for the milk)
London "Rockers" A bunch of long haired brutes with bad teeth sporting electric guitars with footballs on it
Replace that with Silly-nannies -- just like in the Family Guy episode!
Ok, now for my serious opinion. I think, and have always thought, this would be awesome to see other international markets hosting an NFL team. I wonder if other cities will follow. I imagine these teams would join the NFC as opposed to the AFC... It seems as tho the AFC are mostly moderate-to-small markets (Pittsburgh, Indianaplis, Cleveland, Baltimore, etc) while the NFC markets are larger and more international (New York, Chicago, Philly, Dallas, Atlanta, etc)
Would they re-align the divisions and/or conferences? I'm thinking they would...
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n229nw From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1746 posts, RR: 43 Reply 23, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 959 times:
I'd love it if London got a team!
Here are some not-as-good names:
The London Fog?
The London Steak and Kidney Pies?
The London Looters?
The London Routemasters?
The London Vindaloos?
Yeah, I guess redcoats works the best after all...
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 19): A big ass muscle bound cow with an uder shaped like an inverted helmet with little footballs as it's penis's (things you rub/squeeze for the milk)
Umm...if you think milk comes out of a penis, what do you think you are drinking? ( ), or indeed if you think that female cows have (multiple) penises, you might want to review some anatomy
flykev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1284 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 950 times:
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Not sure how they would make it work logistically, not to mention the added costs of operating a team in a foreign market. Surely there would be places in the US where such a team would be much more profitable.
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 1): How is the following of American Football over there?
Its growing I think, and especially at university level it is quite popular. I played American Football for a few years myself whilst at university and whilst my own university barely scraped together a team some of the more prominent universities (University of Hertfordshire, University of Southampton) made some serious investments in the sport and had very big teams and I do know that Universities such as Cambridge have only this season started up an American Football program.
As for the NFL games at Wembley, the ones I attended were a lot of fun; however paying for them was not.
The fact that this article appears in the sun of all places adds to my skepticism of it all and begs to ask the question of why not simply form a league within Europe - after all; it is very big in Germany. Oh wait, they did once and it was called NFL europe...
Still, I'd go see a game if a team ever was to exist.
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25 danielmyatt: I play american football for my university in the BUAFL and for Leicester in the BAFL, the university league is pretty much high school standard in th
26 airportugal310: Indeed...that whole segment of the episode was playing in my mind after I typed that! Shipoopi![Edited 2012-02-04 16:35:30]
27 blink182: The novelty of the event is one thing, kind of like Europe's elite clubs playing a few select dates in the US. However, would a mediocre team be able
28 BMI727: Your conclusion is wrong. The lesson to be learned from the failure of NFL Europe is that when expanding to new markets, you have to do it with the t
29 LGWflyer: In all honestly, no I wouldn't think they could fill up as much as what it would. Interesting, also is there any other quite big differences between
30 Mir: It's already showcased enough - it's on TV worldwide. It would really suck for a team's fans to have to go across an ocean to see their team in a Sup
31 LGWflyer: Yep Wembley doesn't have a roof, and anyway a good advantage for bad weather is making the game more interesting to watch which I think would actuall
32 jamincan: There are quite a few significant differences in my opinion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari..._of_American_and_Canadian_football
33 LGWflyer: Thanks for that, interesting reading.
35 zippyjet: I know, that cows are the females of the bovine species but, those things on their udder sack are bigger than nipples those things look like little p
36 connies4ever: Or Jacksonville, but they may already be planning to move to LA. Generally around 30,000 per game. Yes, the rules are different, but I think perhaps
37 windy95: The greedy owners will go for expansion to recieve the expansion fees. The last thing the NFL needs is more teams. If anything they need contraction.
38 connies4ever: I think the logistics would be ridiculous. Crossing the Atlantic every week, either one way or the other. And would Londoners plunk down likely at lea
39 BA777-236: Bring the NFL to Canada first... Seriously.. Toronto has been trying to get the Bills to move here for years now and had games here but still no word
40 Cadet985: Could get confusing over there....don't they have a game called football that Americans know as soccer? Marc
41 LGWflyer: Yes what you call soccer, we call it football. So if a team or some sort would be over here it would be referred to as American Football. Yes it woul
42 BMI727: It wouldn't be that bad. The London team would be on one side of the pond for a month at a time and teams traveling to London would get the week afte
43 steeler83: In that respect... Got six? Eh, New England could get number four tonight, as could the NY Giants, also, if I'm not mistaken...
44 AirframeAS: That would be one heck of an expensive airfare! I am one of those people who would like to keep American football in the United States. No point in h
45 StuckInCA: How would this work in practical terms? Say you are the SF 49ers. You have an away game at London. The time change is silly for a sports team and none
46 BMI727: But the money and market dominance is at an all time high. I think the best way would be to move teams: send the Rams or possibly even the Raiders ba
47 StuckInCA: How? It's an 8 hour time difference. How is that not any worse than a 3 hour time difference?
48 BMI727: If a west coast team plays on the East Coast in a late game, the broadcast is 1 pm on the West Coast. If the London game has an 8 pm start time the b
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