Gonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1950 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2588 times:
I'm a very skeptical person, and I don't buy any story unless the source is veeeery reliable.
That was the case with my uncle, an old, reliable and serious person, who suffered a really bad experience some years ago. He lived with his family ( wife and two boys ) in a big house in Viña del Mar, and had a "nanny" living with them in the house for several years, she actually was like a second mother for my cousins.
To make the long story short, after the nanny died, they started to experience some really weird situations, like the doors of the kitchen cabinets opening "alone", or wake up and find the water running in the faucet without any failure or good explanation. Finally after some weeks of strange situations and probably a good amount of paranoia they leave that house and moved to other house where the strange situations disappeared, but the whole thing cost him a good pile of money and several nights of insomnia.
Other thing ( this is something that I experienced myself and it is a little creepy ) that I found close to "paranormal stuff" is the "capacity" of predicting very random and "strange" situations, like seeing a car and "feel" the certainty about that very same car suffering an accident, only to found the ( very same ) car smashed into a tree 8 hours later. How on Earth could this be possible ? Yes, I know, just a coincidence..... or not ?
What about you people ? Some interesting story to tell ?
Dano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2568 times:
Yes i believe in the paranormal.
My house is haunted, by what or whom I don't know. At first it was freaky and scary, but now I'm used to it.
Various stuff gets moved around the house, its item of choice at the moment is my mobile phone. A few days ago i found it in the dishwasher one morning. I know I didn't put it in there, before I went to bed I turned the dishwasher on to go through its cycle, but my phone wasn't water damaged and still works.
Bottles of beer have been opened in the fridge, pens and pencils have been placed into a couple of trophy's in my office.
The history of the house is a nightmare, it dates back to the early 1800's. It used to have a servants quarters, and outside is a stable block for a couple of horses. I shall just have to keep digging to see if anybody died of their own accord or not.
Children should only be allowed on aircraft if 1. Muzzled and heavily sedated 2. Go as freight
Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5486 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2539 times:
Long story short. Few weeks after my grandfather died, I encountered something....weird. Was taking a shower which was in my parents room. I heard a door shut, so figured my mom was home. Got out and dried off, opened the bathroom door to find the light off and the bedroom door shut in the bedroom. My only thought was why the hell did she do that knowing I was in here? Get out and say "what's going on??". Come to the realization nobody is home still and maybe 10 seconds after that I hear the garage door open. Mom walks in and I ask "were you just home?" She says no. I say "well who shut the lights off and closed the door while I was in the shower????". All she replied with was "ask your father, weird things happened to him at work recently".
This was back in the first week of Jan 1999 since he died just after xmas 1998, so that was quite awhile ago but never forgot that.
stasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3280 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2505 times:
Yes, I believe that we live in one of many dimensions (or multiverses, if you like). My mother died after a long battle with cancer, and she was a hospice patient being cared for at her home. After she died, my stepfather sometimes smelled her "signature" perfume in the house several months after my mother died. Her clothing had been given away to family members or Goodwill about a month after she died, so we could rule out that the odor of her perfume was from her old clothes. Then, my brother-in-law almost had a heart attack when he saw a "ghost" (that he swears that it was my Mother) standing in the foyer of her house - he came into the house through the garage to pick up some paperwork my sister needed, and my stepfather was not at home. When my stepfather got home and heard my brother-in-law's story, he said that he had seen the same thing in the master bedroom about 3 weeks before. They sat in the kitchen and drank a couple of Scotch on the rocks together to calm themselves down. My sister and I have been to the house and walked around, asking Mom to let us know that she's there - but nothing has happenned to us, at least not yet. I know she's there, but she's there to check up on what we're doing in her house. My Mother was the "boss" of her house and she was always checking up on what we were doing.... LOL
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5944 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2495 times:
I do not believe in the paranormal. I have had, however a few things happened to me that for however much thought I´ve given to them, I have not found an explanation. I´m sure there must be one, but I have not found it.
1) The most recent, I was with my cousin, his wife and baby at the family "quinta" or mansion in MDZ. It´s huge, dates from the early 1800s and used to be a hotel-spa (yes they existed back then) Last year, at night, my cousin and I went to the kitchen and out a door that leads to a patio, for wood. There was no wind, and the door was swollen due to humidity so unless you did not push hard, it wouldn´t move. We left it half open. His wife and the baby were at the other end of the house. When we were returning, just a couple of feet from my face, the door slammed shut, leaving the two of us stuck in the patio. How did that thing slammed like that? Again, no wind, stuck. Beats me. My cousin was white as a sheet.
Later, my cousin who actually spends a lot more time there and has, throughout his life, told me that strange stuff happens there all the time, but that that thing wth the door was something he had never seen.
2) My brother works at night, he owns a couple of bars. I usually stay up until he gets home. A couple of times, I could have swore I heard him arrive and have entered his room, only to find it empty. The light in the hallway is on when this happens, which, of course, he turns it on when he does get home. The first time it happened, I was sort of very surprised. The second time I ignored it. I figure the cat must up to something at night. Or,
The previous owners of this house were a married couple that died here of old age. The sons and daughters fought for years over who would get what, including this house. When we bought it, it had been empty for close to 4 years. It was a bargain, given all the bad blood between the surviving family. Maybe that explains it?
SmittyOne From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 1275 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2485 times:
When I was a little kid my big brother and I were horsing around and he fell on the ground on a blanket, with his feet out of sight out the doorway to our bedroom. Next he began to slide backward out of the room with no visible means of propulsion...one of his arms was in a cast and it didn't look like he was pushing himself backwards.
He said he looked back and a "black dot" was pulling on the blanket. We got some wiffle bats and spent the rest of the day hunting for the black dot. Never found it.
I know (or am 99% sure) that he was messing with me but it makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck 35 years later.
So I think that if I saw the kind of paranormal stuff you guys are describing I would be pretty freaked out!
[Edited 2012-02-14 17:53:52]
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airportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3450 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2422 times:
My relatives back in Portugal believe highly in the power of black magic and all that jazz...
To be honest, I can say that I sort of believe it...
My brother was a massive self-'disaster' about 8 years ago. Alcohol, drugs...a total square going nowhere. After a family trip there in 2004, and a visit to the local witch-doctor by my mother and grandmother...3 years later my brother was totally clean. Started a family, off of the drugs, off of the alcohol, and making nearly as much money as me.
Coincidence? Maybe. I buy into that whole witch doctor thing about 25% but man am I proud of him now.
zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5402 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2422 times:
I do believe in the paranormal. I listen to Coast To Coast AM. Yes, a lot of the show is conspiracy theories and some sensationalism but a lot of the stuff seems realistic. Can't write it off as coincidence.
Ever notice how you look at a clock and it always is 11:11, 1:11, 2:22 etc.? Eastern flight 401 ghosts and apparitions.Could come up with more.
n229nw From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
No. Not at all.
There is a 1,000,000 dollar prize offered by the magician James Randi for anyone who can prove a paranormal power or event in double-blind testing, etc. He has never had to give it to anyone. There is always an explanation. Or the "psychic" is a fraud or deluding himself/herself.
I do believe that the human brain is pretty amazing and complex though.
Psychology explains a LOT of things. As just one example, we often get premonitions, but we only notice or remember them those few times that they do come true. Also, a lot of people can sense and feel and dream a lot about each other form perfectly explainable interactions and subtle body clues. And so forth.
dc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2390 times:
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 7): Ever notice how you look at a clock and it always is 11:11, 1:11, 2:22 etc.?
That's an easy one. You remember when you look at the clock and it's 11:11 or 12:34... If it's 2:37, you look at the clock 60 seconds later because you've already forgotten what time it is... It happens to me all the time, at least.
Main thread: no, I can't say I believe in this paranormal stuff--since I don't believe in it, it probably can't affect. Were I to ever see a ghost... I'd probably crap my pants, though. I'm not saying it's impossible ghosts, etc, exist, but I find so highly unlikely that it doesn't figure in my phobias.
Aliens, on the other hand... man, that was my childhood fear of the dark. Not the boogeyman.
seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11124 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2379 times:
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 7): Ever notice how you look at a clock and it always is 11:11, 1:11, 2:22
For me, it is always 9:11. Every day. No matter what.
Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 10): no, I can't say I believe in this paranormal stuff--since I don't believe in it,
I have lived in two houses with spirits. Neither time I was freaked out. The second time, the spirit was a little boy and he tried to get me to leave. I knew his game and never backed down. He had is area, I had mine. Yes, I believe in spirits. They are around. I have experienced it.
As for aliens: You mean to tell me in the infinity of space with all the stars out there and all the elements we have not yet discovered nor can even comprehend that we are the only rock with life? In all of infinity? Really? Just us?
dc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2203 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2370 times:
Quoting seb146 (Reply 11): As for aliens: You mean to tell me in the infinity of space with all the stars out there and all the elements we have not yet discovered nor can even comprehend that we are the only rock with life? In all of infinity? Really? Just us?
I meant quite the opposite--aliens are the only thing I ponder because I know they exist, somewhere. How far away? Who knows. Unless they took advantage of physics we don't know about yet, they probably haven't made it to Earth. But they might--that's why they're my personal fear of the dark.
Quoting seb146 (Reply 11): I have lived in two houses with spirits. Neither time I was freaked out. The second time, the spirit was a little boy and he tried to get me to leave. I knew his game and never backed down. He had is area, I had mine. Yes, I believe in spirits. They are around. I have experienced it.
I watch shows on discovery channel regarding spirits and apparitions--but given what I see there I don't really take it seriously. But, who am I to say it can't happen...
Stabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2368 times:
Love discussing this stuff.
Bottom line for me: I'm not sure. I've never had any paranormal events happen in my life; at least none I can remember. I don't know if you guys consider "déjà vu" paranormal or not? Pretty sure psychology has a logical explanation to explain it. I'll have to ask the doc in my psych lecture tomorrow. We are studying the basics of the brain right now.
One of my favorite horror/thriller films is Insideous. While its more "demonic possession" than "paranormal", I find that movie and others like it incredibly fascinating.
In St. Paul, MN there is a street with old (old old) houses said to be filled with paranormal entities. I think the street is either Summit or Grand. Can't remember.
Deep down I think this call all be explained via psychology. Example, "seeing a ghost" of a loved one may just be induced by stress, overwhelming emotions, etc.
Any psychologists/ psychiatrists on the board that want to chime in? I find psychology very interesting and would like to hear your input.
So we beat on against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.
Same here. While the logical part of my brain says that there are logical explanations for everything, the curious side definitely wants to believe in the paranormal.
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13): One of my favorite horror/thriller films is Insideous. While its more "demonic possession" than "paranormal", I find that movie and others like it incredibly fascinating.
My favorite is The Exorcist. I'm by no means an aficionado, but I do love watching horror movies like that.
"Two and a Half Men" was filmed in front of a live ostrich.
Airstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2557 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2345 times:
Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13): I don't know if you guys consider "déjà vu" paranormal or not? Pretty sure psychology has a logical explanation to explain it.
Quoting AR385 (Reply 14): The explanation is somewhat complex. The short version, is that it is a mistake that occurs once in a while in your brain when processing memory of a recent event.
I read an article about this in Scientific American coupla years back. If I am remembering it with unwaivering correctitude:
Inside your brain, stimuli travel over redundant pathways to the cerebral cortex, which "processes" the event and then stores it in long-term memory. In times of stress, fatigue, anxiety, or any of that nasty stuff, your brain is crowded, and there is more traffic on some of those pathways than others. Due to this extra traffic, the stimuli traveling over redundant pathways do not necessarily arrive in the cortex with their usual simultaneity. The stimulus that arrives later, does so after the cerebral cortex is done with it and stored the event in long-term memory. So when that later stimulus - informing you, like the first stimulus did, of the event you are currently experiencing - arrives, you think the event is from your past.
I hope Doc or someone similarly edumacated in this field can correct (or corroborate!) me.
I always used to dig Scientific American, even though I'm not overall much of a science-y person. Perhaps I will re-subscribe.
Mine was ( and still is ) "Fallen" with Denzel Washington. Every time I see that movie the song of The Rolling Stones stays with me for weeks, specially the part that " Azazel " likes more : Tiiiime is on MY side...Yes it Is !!!!
FingerLakerAv8r From United States of America, joined May 2011, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2264 times:
In a nut shell yes I do however I am always looking for an explanation. Where I live you get a very interesting phenomena called the Seneca Lake Drums.
Seneca Lake is also the site of a strange and currently unexplained phenomenon known as Mistpouffers. In this area, they are called the Seneca Guns, Lake Drums, or Lake Guns. These are mysterious cannon-like booms and shakes that are heard and felt in the surrounding area. The term Lake Guns originated in the short story "Lake Gun" by James Fenimore Cooper in 1851. Many believe that they are caused by giant air bubbles from deep in the lake bursting on the surface, which is not believed to be true. Others equate it with Indian folklore. The most likely explanation is due to sonic booms from military aircraft, though this does not explain the sounds heard during Cooper's time.
HSVXJ From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 228 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2109 times:
Sorry about this long post, but this is a subject that I love.
I'm pretty ambivalent myself about the existence of ghosts. But I've always loved a good ghost story, all the way from a very young age.
I guess you could say that it's my mother's fault. She used to tell us some creepy ass stories about growing up in rural Philippines. She tells us about a floating coffin she and her father encountered and a black cat that grew larger and larger at her and her sister's feet. But the best one has always been about her mysterious maid.
This was the early 70's when my mother was pregnant with my older sister. She was still living in the Philippines, so they had several maids to help around the house. One night, while my mom was reading her komiks under a mosquito net, the youngest maid walked in to see my mother. My mother was surprised, as she hadn't seen this servant for a couple of days. The maid looked very forlorn and explained that she would have to be leaving. My mom was confused, as this was the first she had heard of this. My mother kept asking why, but the maid would only say that she had to go "very, very far away."
The next day, my mom was talking to her sister. My aunt told my mother that she was sorry to hear the news. My mother had not heard anything significant, so she was baffled. My aunt was taken aback that her sister hadn't heard that the young maid was found dead earlier the day before, drowned in a river. My mother refused to believe it and only did when they rushed to the morgue and she saw the young girl's face frozen in a block of ice as she waited for relatives to retrieve her.
My mother swears by this story though she, like me, is undecided about what she actually experienced.
We lived in what could be described as a haunted house in Virginia Beach from 1985-1990. It was military housing, so families were rotating in and out every few years. Who knows what the hell happened there, but whatever was in there felt truly malevolent. A huge, brass antique crucifix once slid a foot off of a table, we'd hear voices under the dial tone when picking up the phone and the tv would start changing channels randomly, especially during the best shows like Night Court.
I've also attended and lived on famously haunted campuses like Saint John's University in Minnesota and the University of Montevallo in Alabama, so I have a lot of experiences there. I even used to do a website where I shared all of these stories, though it doesn't exist anymore. I've kept the stories, though, in case I ever try to resurrect it.
But I've never seen any hard evidence to confirm the existence of ghosts. I had heard things, saw flashes and felt chills, but never anything concrete. Until that one day in February 1999...
In Chapel Hill, Tennessee, there is one of many railroad light legends similar to the many across the globe. A worker or a bum or a child was killed by a train and now searches the tracks looking for his head or his liquor or his parents. In Chapel Hill, one is supposed to see a burnt amber flame, wandering aimlessly in the distance as the victim shows himself to terrorize bored young adults.
We were told by locals that the lights were only seen from one of two crossings. We had to turn off of the main highway and drive until the road ended. Whether we turned left or right at this point, we would end up at a crossing. But the crossing to the left (south) was where we needed to go.
So there we were, parked just a few feet from the tracks shivering inside the car at midnight in the gripping February icebox. We waited for about 15 minutes, at which point I was getting impatient. I made some remark, but no one responded. I looked to my left (north) from the passenger seat where I noticed the driver staring in the same direction out her window, giving her steering wheel some of that lesbian Kung Fu grip. I looked beyond her at what everyone else in the car was staring at- a burnt amber light, flickering in the distance, wandering aimlessly along the tracks to our north.
I was fascinated. I was finally seeing something just as the legends described. I was excited, but the driver was nearly hyperventilating. Reluctantly, I told her that she could leave if she wanted to. It was just a few moments later that we found ourselves back in town discussing what to do.
I wanted to go back. I wanted to see it all again, but the driver was still shaken, I offered to drive and she accepted. We made our way back off the main road to its end where we were to turn left. It was there that the truth was revealed. As we waited to turn, a CSX maintenance truck appeared to our right, obviously returning from doing some maintenance work at the crossing to the north of where we were, just where we were looking.
I don't see that night as a disappointment. We still had a hell of a time just getting the shit scared out of us. That's why I don't get into all of the EVP and electromagnetic field stuff that people say proves that something is present. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I really don't care.
And, truthfully, I also don't care if the existence of ghosts is ever proven or not. I just love the stories. I mean, the fact that Daleks, Weeping Angels and Time Lords don't exist doesn't make me love Doctor Who any less.
Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 10): That's an easy one. You remember when you look at the clock and it's 11:11 or 12:34... If it's 2:37, you look at the clock 60 seconds later because you've already forgotten what time it is.
A really good psych teacher I had at Montevallo explained it this way- watch as someone looks at their watch. A few seconds later, ask them what time it is. Unless it is one of those memorable times like 11:11, chances are they will have to check their watch again. The reason, he said, was that when we look at the time, it's mostly for what time it's not rather than for what time it is.
BOO. Only 8 more months to Halloween.
Nature forms us for ourselves, not for others; to be, not to seem.
Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5486 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2063 times:
Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 3): Yes, I believe that we live in one of many dimensions (or multiverses, if you like). My mother died after a long battle with cancer, and she was a hospice patient being cared for at her home
Sorry to hear, my mom was just given that as her only option at this point today.
To finish off my other story from before. On 2 occasions we've had a snow globe go off on it's own. Now part of me thinks there was enough tension left on the windup part and maybe the table settled and caused the mechanism to slip and start to play. But it was on what would be a year and 1 day after my father died (which would be his birthday). Approx 10:30am we were in my bedroom (gf, myself and 16 month old). Then the snow globe started playing music by itself in the living room. We were creeped out and I jokingly pass it off as my dad stopping by on his birthday. Forgot how long time had passed after that, but it happened again at 3am. Played 3 full revolutions and stopped. Wouldn't wind up after that and we ended up throwing it out.
If there was a little tension left in it, I understand, but for it to play 3 full revolutions of the song seems weird.
Giancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
For me I think you would have to accept that if one dead person has the power to return and "haunt" or "give signs" then why cant the rest? Say a bad spirit exists to scare you why wouldnt a dead relative or friend be there protecting you?
If one can move a phone or slam a door why cant one give a kiss or supply you with gifts?
If there were ghosts and they had these powers surely they would put it to more use then simply moving an object in a random house? Eh who knows..
As for the TV shows abotu ghosts.. they are all a croc of shit. Its conveniently always night time? Always some form of morbid music must be played during the show.. there can only ever be 3 or 4 people around because tv ghosts are scared of crowds and sunlight? etc etc heh
If we can come back after death ima be reeking havoc at the playboy mantion screw all this slamming door stuff.
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5944 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 1967 times:
Quoting Giancavia (Reply 22): For me I think you would have to accept that if one dead person has the power to return and "haunt" or "give signs" then why cant the rest? Say a bad spirit exists to scare you why wouldnt a dead relative or friend be there protecting you?
Well, millions of people believe that a guy who died 1,979 years ago resurrected three days later and appeared inside a locked house (including windows) to his former students. He scared the shit out of practically all of them but particularly of one, who questioned wether he was who he said he was, so he showed him his wounds. This particular spirit is considered very benevolent.
Quoting Giancavia (Reply 22): If one can move a phone or slam a door why cant one give a kiss or supply you with gifts?
Some do. If you believe in those stories. Some of them actually point to clues of where important things may be hidden. And honestly, if the most gorgeous ghost came and give me a kiss, no matter how benevolent its intentions were, I´d probably wet myself.
Quoting Giancavia (Reply 22): As for the TV shows abotu ghosts.. they are all a croc of shit. Its conveniently always night time? Always some form of morbid music must be played during the show.. there can only ever be 3 or 4 people around because tv ghosts are scared of crowds and sunlight? etc etc heh
I agree. The Discovery channel ones are particularly sorrowful. I watch them sometimes for the amusemt factor only, when there´s nothing else playing on TV.
I´m with you. I do not believe in these things. But the fact that every Sunday millions of people fill up temples (at least in my neck of the woods) to celebrate what is essentially a Paranormal event, makes me wonder wether believing in the Paranormal is a part of human nature. In any case, I´m not going to judge anyone who does.