virginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 912 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2896 times:
Apple today announced their new OS - OS X Mountain Lion
A much earlier announcement than people were expecting especially considering the gaps between previous OS's were around 2 years. This has been less than a year! Although it won't come out until late summer, so we have a while to wait yet.
Some new features:
Messages - replaces iChat and now allows users to iMessage iOS devices ( iPhone / iPad / iPod Touch )
Haven't bought 10.7 yet. There was no meaningful upgrade over 10.6. It, like, scrolls windows more badly and that's it.
Just wait for a certain Mac partisan to show up and explain in excruciating detail why you need Lion NOW.
FWIW my wife just recently upgraded from Tiger to Snow Leopard. I predict she'll skip Lion and go to Mountain Lion if there's som great development she needs or, if like Tiger, it just becomes obsolete.
[Edited 2012-02-16 09:05:32]
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AKiss20 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 627 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2755 times:
Quoting Flighty (Reply 7): Haven't bought 10.7 yet. There was no meaningful upgrade over 10.6. It, like, scrolls windows more badly and that's it.
If you have an iPhone, the integration with iCloud is quite good, reason why I upgraded!
I like Lion overall, i've only been on it for a few days. There was a really annoying default behavior when you closed the laptop with an external monitor. SL went to sleep, Lion by default goes into clamshell mode. Apple offers no option to change this, but some smart people found you could change something in PRAM to go back to the SL behavior.
ML doesn't seem like much of a change. Surprised they are calling it a new OS and not just 10.7.4
Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are
Asturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2156 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2749 times:
Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 10): ML doesn't seem like much of a change. Surprised they are calling it a new OS and not just 10.7.4
Indeed, one possibility is to get users to pay 30 bucks every 12-18 months for minor OS upgrades, another far more likely possibility is to remove themselves from the Lion fiasco - the Vista of Apple.
Also to be more in sync with the latest cloud-fad, shopping "experience" and swipes one finds on the iOS gadgets.
Apple has stopped referring to the OS as Mac OS X, it is now just OS X; there is no server version, OS X is now the most "advanced" (yeah right) *desktop* OS according to Apple's own website; every update major or minor is just about ecosystem integration or shopping and the Mac App Store is being set up as the inevitable walled garden with Gate Keeper.
Apple didn't even bother to make an event or a presentation for the announcement of this "new" OS X. Just called the most egregious Mac sycophant on the planet and said: Meet us Gruber, we need to show you something to blog about.
flykev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2628 times:
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When I first read about some of the features they are adding (notification center) I thought "oh great, they are making the desktop into a giant version of iOS"; kind of like how Microsoft is putting that nasty Metro UI on Windows 8 -
However on looking at the website, this seems to be the best parts of iOS being added to Mac OS X.
Notification Center looks quite useful to me, as does integrating iMessage.
I skipped lion, but if my Mac isn't too old I will be able to upgrade to Mountain Lion.
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Why? No. Exactly like MS and Dell. Hence, insanely mediocre.
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 13): I have an 8 year old G5 iMac that I'll replace with a new one after the next upgrade. Will pass it on to the grandkids.
Cool story bro. What will the grandkids do with a machine that can't even run Snow Leopard? Leopard can't run the recent software. The best browser you can run is Firefox 3.6.26. That's the lastest browser of any kind that runs on PPC.
While an 8 year old Wintel can run XP, which can run the recent software, including the latest Chrome and Flash and whatnot them kids love these days. Apple: insanely obsolete.
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 13): That $30 price tag did shake up pricing. Makes it clear that an OS, including Windows, shouldn't be very expensive. Nor should there be multiple version for consumers to choose from.
People pay for Windows because they have to, not because they want to. Mac ... oops sorry OS X has always been considerably cheaper in retail than Windows. At least on the surface. As everyone knows, Windows isn't released that often, every 5 years or so on average. So the 120 bucks every two years for OS X was not that amazing considering the 500 bucks paid for Windows every 5 years. Besides, OS X has always been covered in part by hardware sales. In the end it doesn't matter what OS X costs or doesn't cost. At least not for the Windows price tag.
So seeing as the main features of OS X Mountain Lion is a handful of shareware-class apps and the ability to mirror the monitor wirelessly, with a bunch of half-assed iOS "features" being jammed in there for no good reason, and that Lion was Apple's Vista, let's see if 30 bucks won't turn into 0 bucks as they just decide to give the OS away. I wouldn't pay more than zero for it anyway.
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 13): So let's see if MS is able to deliver an OS at the same price points. Maybe with Longhorn.
Apple is big and important today, more so than I ever could imagine. Yet in the space of desktop OS, Apple is rather insignificant and Microsoft holds the monopoly. Perhaps if OS X could run on generic peezoids, the pricing of it could affect the pricing of Windows, but in the current situation the two just don't affect each other.
Look at Mac sales compared to PC sales for the past few years. Lion seems to be selling pretty well, as do Macs loaded with Lion.
Quoting Asturias (Reply 16): Yet in the space of desktop OS, Apple is rather insignificant and Microsoft holds the monopoly.
Macs are profitable. OS X is profitable. iOS devices are profitable. What appears to be insignificant is the five year performance that MS has delivered to it's shareholders.
Reality is that a business does not have to be the biggest in order to perform very well and be very profitable. Look at how well the PC makers are doing. Their margins? Their ability to deliver new products that change the market?
So Apple is insignificant in some areas? And they are laughing all the way to the banks - as are their shareholders.
And their customers continually rank the company ahead of the competition.
jwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1341 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2246 times:
I imagine there will be a host of new features announced in time. Chances are iOS6 will be out around the same time so theres probably a few features that both will have they want to keep under wraps for the time being.