BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14351 posts, RR: 26 Posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
Just saw this leaked photo of the upcoming Ferrari F620GT that is to be unveiled at Geneva. The F620GT is to replace the 599GTB in the lineup.
As far as styling goes, this is excellent although the flying buttress pillars appear to be history. At least as good as the Lamborghini Aventador. Ferrari has clearly gotten their groove back after stumbling on the FF (all they had to do was straighten the roofline).
The F620GT should be extremely fast as well, packing 740 horsepower, which is 40 over the Aventador and 80 over the 599 GTO, and should be good for 0-60 in about three seconds. No info on pricing, but I would expect it will carry a healthy increase over the 599 and will of course carry Ferrari's typically high premiums tacked on by dealers looking to make the most on their allotments (Italias sell for at least $280,000 usually, but I've heard McLaren forbids dealers from selling cars over sticker).
Hopefully the 620 will be less, uh, thermally unstable than other recent Ferraris.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14351 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1432 times:
Well, here it is, but it isn't called the F620GT. Ferrari is calling it the F12berlinetta (not a typo) which is a bit weird but for a car like this it doesn't matter in the least.
A few points:
1. Ferrari's styling issues on the FF are gone. The FF, despite being a great GT car in every other respect was a hiccup in the styling department but hasn't become a pattern.
2. Nice F1 styling cues on the front and rear with the pseudo-wing in the front fascia and the LED light (can't tell exactly what it will be used for) and vague rear wing shape up the middle and around the tail lights on the rear.
3. The flying buttresses of the 599 are gone, along with the Corvette clone rear end that was underneath them. The new rear styling seems to borrow a lot from the Alfa Romeo 8C, not a bad role model.
4. The side scallop from the 599 has grown a lot bigger but, oddly, doesn't seem to incorporate a vent, unless it is in the top. (Engine compartment instead of brakes?) It doesn't look bad, but I wonder if I would have liked a slab sided version better if the cutout isn't functional.
5. The F12 will be fast. Really fast, although the 0-60 time is now said to be 3.1 seconds instead of the previously rumored three flat. I'd count on a top speed north of 200 mph.
PC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2239 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1373 times:
Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1500 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1351 times:
Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 4): With all do respect from a car fan, I'll believe that when I see it. (as they say)
flanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1609 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1344 times:
Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 4): With all do respect from a car fan, I'll believe that when I see it. (as they say)
thats km so its totally fine
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist
Newark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1175 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1338 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2): Well, here it is, but it isn't called the F620GT. Ferrari is calling it the F12berlinetta (not a typo) which is a bit weird but for a car like this it doesn't matter in the least.
Hasn't Ferrari done this before? When it was rumored that the Daytona was going to be called, well, Daytona, didn't they omit the name from all product literature and call it the 365GTB/4?
Anyway, looks great from every angle except straight on- far too aggressive there, I think, although the fact that it's packing 740 horsepower perhaps entitles it to a bit of aggression.
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6297 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1329 times:
PC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2239 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1202 times:
EY460 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 233 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1175 times:
Not a big fan of Ferrari. Give me a Lamborghini: Italian design and German technology.
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6297 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1136 times:
Quoting EY460 (Reply 11): Not a big fan of Ferrari. Give me a Lamborghini: Italian design and German technology.
The thing I don't like about Lamborghini is there are very unpractical. Don't get me wrong, a Ferrari is not either but there are more of a car that can be driver every day, they are not so low to the ground with the wing doors etc..
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14351 posts, RR: 26 Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1093 times:
Quoting EY460 (Reply 11): Give me a Lamborghini: Italian design and German technology.
They are less prone to incinerating themselves on the side of a highway than Ferraris, but it still happens from time to time.
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 13): I agree. Especially the new Aventador. Best looking car in its class in my opinion.
The Aventador is a very good looking car. The Countach started the aggressive styling, but some of the wings and body cladding made certain variants look clunky. The Diablo was wonderfully styled, taking the Countach style and making it more aggressively proportioned and cleaning it up. Plus it was possibly the last really uncivilized Lambo, for better or worse. The Murcielago was not ugly by any stretch, but it did appear a bit bloated and too round. The Aventador is an improvement with the more angular and athletic look.
Quoting na (Reply 14): I agree, as the front end is not too much how I like it to be. The 599 had a nicer "face".
I don't think the face is bad, just that the rear is nicer. The rear of the F12 is far, far nicer than the 599, which looked like a Corvette missing two taillights.
Quoting na (Reply 14): Yuck, a car which jumped out of a comic. No thanks, Lambos are far too extrovert and unpractial.
That's the beauty of Lamborghini: they are completely outrageous. They look insane and they drive insane. What other car can be painted in colors otherwise found only in bags of Skittles and look just fine? (Definitely not Ferraris, despite what some wealthy Arabs seem to think) And Lambos look just as good in dark colors too, even matte gray or black. They look like Darth Vader on wheels.
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Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
doug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3163 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1061 times:
Oh well, I made it a week. But I can't hold it in any longer.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14351 posts, RR: 26 Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1041 times:
Quoting doug_Or (Reply 17): Well... Oil? Brake fluid? What did it leak?
Being a Ferrari, chances are good that it will be all of the above. And it's probably 50/50 whether it ignites.
If owners are lucky, it will do so within easy walking distance of a Porsche dealer so their lives will be minimally interrupted.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
EY460 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 233 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1002 times:
Quoting EY460 (Reply 11): Not a big fan of Ferrari. Give me a Lamborghini: Italian design and German technology.
Quoting flymia (Reply 12): The thing I don't like about Lamborghini is there are very unpractical. Don't get me wrong, a Ferrari is not either but there are more of a car that can be driver every day, they are not so low to the ground with the wing doors etc..
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 13): I agree. Especially the new Aventador. Best looking car in its class in my opinion.
Quoting na (Reply 14): Yuck, a car which jumped out of a comic. No thanks, Lambos are far too extrovert and unpractial.
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 16): They are less prone to incinerating themselves on the side of a highway than Ferraris, but it still happens from time to time.
Great!!! After the boring Airbus vs Boeing topic we have created the more exciting Ferrari vs Lamborghini topic.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14351 posts, RR: 26 Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 781 times:
Quoting EY460 (Reply 19): After the boring Airbus vs Boeing topic we have created the more exciting Ferrari vs Lamborghini topic.
Lamborghini isn't letting Ferrari have all the fun.
They have unveiled a completely al fresco Aventador called the Unica at Geneva. It looks really cool, like taking the traditional wide and flat Lambo styling and turning it up to eleven, although practicality may be an issue, although there is precedent in the SLR McLaren Stirling Moss Edition, so if they so choose, I would guess that some of these may hit the streets. And I really hope they choose to.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14351 posts, RR: 26 Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 696 times:
mmedford From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 528 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 672 times:
Sweet with each new release of a Ferrari; my dream of owning an 10~15 year old ferrari is coming true!
tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 4633 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 639 times:
First thing I thought when I saw it: "It's a 1978 Corvette redesign!"
Tugg
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25 aerorobnz: I mistook dollars for Euros...it was 2.1 million euros. More pics.... like the vent thing near the back of the bonnet.
26 BMI727: That's more like it. By the way, here is the F12Berlinetta propaganda, er, launch video. But Jalopnik is right, it is porn. Just make sure to turn th
27 N1120A: Yawn. Remind me when they put the third pedal back in it.
28 racko: By the way, what's that thing in the middle of the back bumper? The fog light? Looks like a F1 rain light.
29 BMI727: Not sure what it will be used for. ...and that is why it is there. Actual purpose is secondary in this case.
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