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Afghanistan Koran-burning Incident  
User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12333 posts, RR: 25
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2874 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17152705

Protests have been going on for four days, and today 12 were killed.

The President and the commanding general have apologized.

I honestly doubt that the US meant anything evil by disposing of the holy books this way.

Seems the locals do not agree.

Seems we're not wanted there any more and we should leave.

We finally did reach "Mission Accomplished" status a few months ago when OBL took a round to the head.

No need to stick around for the inevitable inglorious withdrawal, let's just get it over with, for the sake of everyone involved.


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User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1206 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

They don't state where the books were burned. It sounds like it happened on base... who's the idiot who broadcast the "oops" globally?


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

Newt Gingrich tells it like it is on this topic;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epBLAyZrsb0



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2269 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
I honestly doubt that the US meant anything evil by disposing of the holy books this way.

They're burning books now? Have they ever heard of Fahrenheit 451, I wonder?

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
Seems we're not wanted there any more and we should leave.

After some people on the US base burn their holiest book? Even by accident?

You think they don't want the US there? Congrats, you're absolutely right!


But yeah, that's not the whole story. How were these books burned?


User currently offlineronglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

I'm sorry if this sounds anti-American, but it seems to me that if the armed forces of any nation have the likelihood to step in it, it would be the American forces...and particularly the US Marines.

User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8787 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):

After some people on the US base burn their holiest book? Even by accident?
Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
But yeah, that's not the whole story. How were these books burned?

So what? Theirs is a culture that inspires violent outrage over the destruction of inanimate objects, such as Quran copies, and relative indifference toward the extermination of human beings in the name of God.

Let's get things straight, folks:

1) Prisoners use Qurans to write messages to each other. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...ed-qurans-held-extremist-messages/

2) A couple of dumb recruits, having been ordered to "dispose of" the desecrated Qurans (desecrated by Muslims, I might add) stupidly light a fire and throw the books on the fire in full view of Afghans.

3) Afghans go apeshit and start killing people. Including an Afghan soldier you kills US troops.

4) Obama and US Commander apologize

What's wrong with the picture? WE had to apologize??? Will it be that Afghans are perfectly entitled to value a copy of the Koran over the lives of two allied soldiers because that’s their culture, QED?

Has Karzai apologized yet, incidentally? I checked his website, where the announcement of Obama’s apology is prominently displayed, but found only a statement of regret about the civilians killed in the rampage plus some news about the delegations he’s putting together to get to the bottom of an accidental book-burning. Quote from the last link: “NATO officials promised to meet Afghan nation’s demand of bringing to justice, through an open trial, those responsible for the incident and it was agreed that the perpetrators of the crime be brought to justice as soon as possible.”

http://president.gov.af/en/news/7209

It's their people and their culture that kills people at the drop of a hat - not to mention THEIR soldier who kills our troops, and WE are the ones who have to apologize? When are we going to wake up and realize that they are NOT worthy of our respect?



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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2752 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
Newt Gingrich tells it like it is on this topic;

Sorry but what he says is nonsense The Koran is not a radical Islamists material to start and the two American soldiers who were killed died in action not related to the burning incident, so Newt is mixing things in a way to serve his campaign only.
BTW few here ask Muslims when they move to the west to adapt to the way the west lives, should that not also applies to American forces in Islamic country, the burning of the Koran is an insult to all Muslims.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12333 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 4):
I'm sorry if this sounds anti-American, but it seems to me that if the armed forces of any nation have the likelihood to step in it, it would be the American forces...and particularly the US Marines.

They are trained to be soldiers, not diplomats.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 6):
the burning of the Koran is an insult to all Muslims

Yes, but it was a MISTAKE, and apologies have been issued from the President on down.

Isn't forgiveness in that holy book somewhere?



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2269 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):
So what? Theirs is a culture that inspires violent outrage over the destruction of inanimate objects, such as Quran copies, and relative indifference toward the extermination of human beings in the name of God.

As opposed to American troops, who kill people, but not in the name of God. That makes it alright, I guess.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 6):
Sorry but what he says is nonsense

Of course it is. He's a politician. They only say nonsense.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 6):
BTW few here ask Muslims when they move to the west to adapt to the way the west lives, should that not also applies to American forces in Islamic country, the burning of the Koran is an insult to all Muslims.

Yes, but the US doesn't have a good track record in respecting other cultures, so I can't say I'm surprised.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):
1) Prisoners use Qurans to write messages to each other.

Some "terrorists" use the internet. Should we shut it down?

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):
Obama and US Commander apologize

Politics ergo bullshit. They don't mean it.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):
It's their people and their culture that kills people at the drop of a hat - not to mention THEIR soldier who kills our troops, and WE are the ones who have to apologize? When are we going to wake up and realize that they are NOT worthy of our respect?

And in their opinion, the US isn't worthy of respect. Fair enough?

Have you ever watched a hollywood movie? Tell me, after seeing what people here want to do for fun during the weekend... that is, see as many decapitations and exsanguinations and explosions as possible, that the US culture is not inherently prone to violence.

Now, that doesn't make the Afghani right. But it sure as hell doesn't make the US right either.


User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 7):
They are trained to be soldiers, not diplomats.

Doesnt excuse having no common sense, Just makes life more difficult for themselves and their colleagues. Having said that these cretins will grasp at any reason they can to lynch some westerners.. Should just leave them to kill each other.


User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2729 times:
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Quoting Revelation (Reply 7):
Yes, but it was a MISTAKE, and apologies have been issued from the President on down.

Isn't forgiveness in that holy book somewhere?

I was speaking about the action itself, the soldiers should have known that.
President Obama (and others) sincere apologies was a perfect action from a great president.



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8787 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 6):
BTW few here ask Muslims when they move to the west to adapt to the way the west lives, should that not also applies to American forces in Islamic country, the burning of the Koran is an insult to all Muslims.

I call BS on that. If you came over here and burned a Bible in a heavily baptist neighborhood, you might get some ugly looks and even get yelled at. But you won't get killed and the locals won't start looting and pillaging.

It's called civilization.



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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2716 times:
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Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
It's called civilization.

Sorry i will call you on that, you know where you are going, nobody even dream that part of the world is civilized, thanks to the cold war, the Russian invasion etc...
Still you go there you know the rules, you act accordingly.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12333 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 10):
I was speaking about the action itself, the soldiers should have known that.

They and their commanders are saying they did not know better, and have apologized for their action.

Why do we have day after day of protest after the apologies have been made?

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 12):
Sorry i will call you on that, you know where you are going, nobody even dream that part of the world is civilized, thanks to the cold war, the Russian invasion etc...
Still you go there you know the rules, you act accordingly.

You say we didn't think that place was civilized then you say we knew the rules?

You can't have it both ways, so which do you believe?



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User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 13):
Why do we have day after day of protest after the apologies have been made?

Its currently off season in female stoning league so they have to have some way to let off steam.


User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2683 times:
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Quoting Revelation (Reply 13):
You can't have it both ways, so which do you believe?

I said you knew that place was not civilized due to what has been happening there and for sure they know the rules.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 13):
Why do we have day after day of protest after the apologies have been made?

I did not say i approve of those actions, but they felt that they were insulted and acted accordingly.
I believe the apologies were sincere, they may not have that same feeling, maybe they felt the same as:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 8):
Politics ergo bullshit. They don't mean it.



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User currently offlineEmirates773ER From Pakistan, joined Jun 2005, 1449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
It's called civilization.

Civilization? What freakin joke! Your forces invaded a country on false pretenses which led to tens of thousands of people dying yet you are getting our panties all tied up on this? US forces should be booted out of afghanistan (which they will soon be). This is only the start of the end game.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12333 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 16):
US forces should be booted out of afghanistan (which they will soon be). This is only the start of the end game.

They should leave, booted out or not.

It'll prolly happen after the November election, even if the GOP candidate (whomever it is) wins.



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8787 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 16):
Your forces invaded a country on false pretenses which led to tens of thousands of people dying yet you are getting our panties all tied up on this?

Surely you are not confusing Iraq and Afghanistan are you?

Be that as it may, the vast majority of innocents/civilians killed in both countries in both countries were killed by your fellows, not ours. You see, we have something within us called a conscience that generally makes us try to avoid killing people who aren't trying to kill us. The same cannot be said for those whom you seem to sympathize with.



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User currently offlineronglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 7):
They are trained to be soldiers, not diplomats.

Well, maybe not diplomats of the striped-pants variety, but I do think they get diplomatic training along the "cultural sensitivity" line. My impression is that with American servicemen, it doesn't stick too well, as compared to others.

In this case, it seems that someone was particularly dumb about burning the trash. I have no personal objection to burning excess holy books, but jeez, you'd think they be a little more discrete about it.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8787 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 19):
Well, maybe not diplomats of the striped-pants variety, but I do think they get diplomatic training along the "cultural sensitivity" line. My impression is that with American servicemen, it doesn't stick too well, as compared to others.

How about the Afghans taking some "cultural sensitivity" classes? We're not the ones who start killing as soon as someone offends us by burning a book or a flag or whatever.



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3938 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2612 times:

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 12):
nobody even dream that part of the world is civilized, thanks to the cold war, the Russian invasion etc...

Oh, of course, blame it on the evil Westerners / Russians... That place has been uncivilized ever since the first wayward goat herder got lost in a blizzard, ended up on the wrong side of the Kybher Pass (assuming there is even a right side), looked around at a bunch of rocks and said to himself "You know what? This looks like it would be a great place to settle down and grow some opium." Don't try to deflect criticism on the Soviets or the Americans and let them take responsibility for their own actions.

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 16):
US forces should be booted out of afghanistan (which they will soon be).

Agree - put a bullet in Karzai's head (let's face it, he is going to end up killed by some rival war-lord anyway so might as well save him the trouble, he has fed on Uncle Sam's trough for long enough) and let them kill each other as they so enjoy doing. Just remember to put some drones circling the borders zapping everything that tries to get out to avoid they do any damage outside



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User currently offlineronglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 20):
How about the Afghans taking some "cultural sensitivity" classes?

Not likely to happen. They're not very cultured and they're not very sensitive to the feelings of others - only their own.

[Aside] My wife had what I thought was a great line today as we watched footage of the demonstration in Kabul.

"How do those guys", she asked facetiously, "Get time off work to demonstrate like that ?"


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19385 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
I call BS on that. If you came over here and burned a Bible in a heavily baptist neighborhood, you might get some ugly looks and even get yelled at. But you won't get killed and the locals won't start looting and pillaging.

Oh, I think that in some neighborhoods, you might be facing a group of people armed with broken bottles and such. It wouldn't spread into widespread riots because we are not a fundamentalist-saturated country, but that's because of a relatively secular society, not because we're Christian.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 13):
They and their commanders are saying they did not know better,

This stuns me. Where the hell have they been living that they didn't know that burning the Q'uran was going to cause riots?


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8787 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):
Oh, I think that in some neighborhoods, you might be facing a group of people armed with broken bottles and such. It wouldn't spread into widespread riots because we are not a fundamentalist-saturated country, but that's because of a relatively secular society, not because we're Christian

Then do the same in southern Italy or somewhere similar where they are deeply christian. You won't be killed, and there would be no riots.



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25 Cerecl : The US forces are in Afghanistan. As such, they need to respect the culture of the land. If Afghans in the US start to kill after someone burnt a cop
26 Dreadnought : Sorry, but there are limits. If you were to visit someplace and they practice cannibalism, should we be just peachy with that? This is no different -
27 Post contains links and images WestJet747 : Common sense isn't so common unfortunately... Going to have to disagree with that. They might not start "looting and pillaging", but there will certa
28 Dreadnought : You have the occasional nutjob anywhere, but the difference the here we put them in jail. You don't have a streetfull of homicidal maniacs. Remember
29 geezer : Here we go............................................ I'm not sure just what you mean by the first half of that, about Muslims "adapting"; the "burni
30 seb146 : They never wanted foreign fighters on their land anyway. That was the whole point of our troops being blown up by them. That was why all the IEDs in
31 Post contains images stasisLAX : Look, we Americans need a reality check here. The US Military burns Muslim Holy Korans because the "high value detainees" at the enormous Parwan pris
32 WestJet747 : Should have been zero in the first place, but that's just wishful thinking... More your site than mine. It's maintained by Americans, and I found it
33 stasisLAX : I am saying that most of the Afghan public seems to have screwed-up priorities. Period.
34 dc9northwest : Can you explain why you don't think I understand? Let me guess... is it my flag or my age? If one of the two, don't bother to respond, I don't care f
35 Post contains images stasisLAX : Okay, let's be rational for a moment, shall we? I am NOT a terrorist, a murderer or an enemy combatant, nor I am under arrest in a PRISON. If I were
36 WestJet747 : And they probably look at us and say North Americans have screwed-priorities. That IS part of the reason they hate us in the first place... But I wou
37 Post contains links Quokkas : The following figures are from the CIA World Fact Book: Literacy: (definition: age 15 and over can read and write) total population: 28.1% male: 43.1
38 Pyrex : Forget about it - you are trying to argue with a moral relativist, there is no point. They will claim to be secular, but only when it applies to the
39 Gyreaux130J : I'm gonna guess the reaction would be somewhere between "Hey, I'm cool with that" and "there would be plenty of people angry and that there would be
40 SOBHI51 : In all discussions here there always this : If you move to the west it's a must that Muslims should adapt to the west way of living or go back home.
41 na : Anyone living in a foreign country with a different culture should adopt, unless this culture/society is unbearably inhumane. If a muslim chooses to
42 Post contains images MadameConcorde : He's my man. I agree 100% with all the things he said. No wonder he was murdered...
43 na : Unfortunately humans are not made of this stuff. As long as capitalism (egoism) and religions (chauvinism) rule, it´ll never get any decidedly bette
44 imiakhtar : That's what I find ironic. Burning or burial is indeed the correct method of disposal for religious text. However, doing half a job and dumping the r
45 Cerecl : 1. If you know the people from the place you want to go practise cannibalism, maybe you should reconsider your plan. 2. If you have to go to this pla
46 caliatenza : uh, Afghanistan wasnt on false pretenses. I seem to recall a certain Taliban hiding a certain OBL...who was responsible for more than 3000 deaths on
47 L410Turbolet : Only to get killed while rioting trying to prove the world what a "religion of peace" islam is. Priceless. Add to that "outrage" over the Danish cart
48 N867DA : Paging Joseph McCarthy...paging Senator McCarth! Get a grip. Stop making things in such black and white terms.
49 bjorn14 : Oh yeah, the joke is Pakistani security forces gave cover to the Taliban and OBL all the while claiming they didn't have anything to do with them. Wh
50 seb146 : Let's not forget the Christians beating homeless and protesters in the United States and telling people they are going to die because they can not af
51 Post contains links and images WestJet747 : I hope you aren't trying to describe me, because if so, you have certainly made this atheist conservative's day And please don't make me out to sound
52 Mir : Burning them is not the only way of getting rid of them (or, rather, keeping them out of the hands of those who would use them for ill purposes). You
53 Post contains images cmf : Gingrich is a stupid idiot for acting very similar to the terrorists. If he ever gets elected I bet he will have more blood on his hands than any ter
54 stasisLAX : Do we somehow smuggle the Korans in question out of the prison, fly the Korans to an undisclosed location, and dispose of them in some other cultural
55 dc9northwest : Fair enough. The Afghanis should have just burned some Bibles. Would have been much fairer to everyone involved.
56 geezer : [quote=dc9northwest,reply=34]Can you explain why you don't think I understand? Let me guess... is it my flag or my age? If one of the two, don't bothe
57 dc9northwest : Sir, I suppose I owe you an apology. I was quite brusque in replying to you. Let me explain why. I have gotten a lot of dismissive replies due to my
58 Mir : Why do they have to be destroyed? Why not just keep them in a warehouse somewhere? The whole religious motivation behind the protests is ridiculous.
59 Post contains links stasisLAX : The reality will take place when the United States military is no longer a presence in Afghanistan - and a Afghan civil war happens - any Afghan citi
60 Dreadnought : I agree it's time to leave, but not that we shouldn't have gone there to begin with. We had no choice but to go after Afghanistan after they were shi
61 Revelation : I imagine they are getting some cultural sensitivity training in basic training, but the main focus is on how to kill other human beings. You can onl
62 Post contains links and images photopilot : Uhhhh, you're completely wrong. Perhaps you should do some reading about the Philadelphia Bible Riots between Protestants and Catholics. http://cands
63 Stabilator : Thats almost like saying after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor we should've just stayed at home.
64 stasisLAX : OBL was already in his mansion in Pakistan, protected by the best and the brightest Pakistani ISI agents - he was NOT in Afghanistan. Wake up, it's d
65 Post contains images BMI727 : There are indications that Bin Laden didn't escape to Pakistan until the Battle of Tora Bora in late 2001. Accounts vary as to how close we actually
66 na : No, it isnt. Japan attacked the US, Afghanistan didnt. Only a small number hiding in Afghanistan did (in a way). There is no reason why the US and it
67 PanHAM : How man Englishmen made it over the Khyber Pass when retreating out of Afghanistan in the mid 19th century? Was the number 16 or so? There is absolute
68 Post contains images zkojq : While the act of burning the Korans in view of Afghans was unbelievably idiotic, I do feel a little bit sorry for the soldiers who did it; a moment of
69 ltbewr : We have been in Afghanistan with military forces from about 3-4 weeks after the terror acts in the USA on 9/11/01 seeking massive revenge on their the
70 PanHAM : or 50 or 500 or 700 years. You might as well predict the lottery numbers. Unless the religion goes through a phase of enlightenment things will stay
71 na : Absolutely right. If I have ever supported the German participation there, this little support is gone by now. Afghanistan is no member of the civili
72 757gb : It sure does but your post made fascinating reading. Sometimes I just can't spend the time required to read all the long posts but yours was definite
73 Post contains links SomedayTrijet : As of the incident itself: Those Afghans involved in the protests overreacted greatly, from our perspective. But anyone with some common sense could h
74 Post contains links Dreadnought : Well, here we we have the result. A few days after Obama's apology for burning a few books (and Karzai's lack of apology for murdering our troops), he
75 CASINTEREST : It's sad/funny 10+ years on to see myself proven correct amongs my friends and family about Afghanistan. I agreed with the invasion, but I said we ne
76 Post contains images stasisLAX : Can the West get to the point where we commercially mine and extract the rare earth minerals we need from Afghanistan (before the Chinese manage to d
77 WestJet747 : Most of the Muslims in Michigan live outside of Detroit. The show All-American Muslim is set in Dearborn. So first you say that they should "build a
78 windy95 : Never had a doubt that they would not pull themselves out of the stone-age. More wasting of our hard earned money.
79 DocLightning : Wait. OBL was in Afghanistan. If we hadn't invaded, he'd still be there. Afghanistan was the country we SHOULD have invaded first, not Iraq. That was
80 Post contains links and images zkojq : While I agree, it is my opinion that the protests are probably just as much a venting of anger at ISAF than specific retaliation for the burning of t
81 Post contains images BMI727 : The only reason he went to Pakistan was because we chased him there in December 2001. It was painful how close we actually got to getting him back th
82 SOBHI51 : Lets send the money to Israel instead so they can kill more Palestinians or throw them out of there homes and land.
83 MD11Engineer : No matter that nobody cries if the Taliban burn a mosque and destroy Q´ran books when they go on rampage against those Muslim groups they don´t cons
84 Post contains links stasisLAX : OBL was skipping back and forth across the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan all the time, with lots of help from the Pakistani ISI. The radical
85 CASINTEREST : "Even if" is the key phrase. There are some countries where from a political and even economics view, the US was better off with the dictators in pow
86 WestJet747 : Ah I see where you're coming from now, and I unfortunately agree.
87 stealthz : There seem some that are of the opinion that the US and other Western nations are always in the wrong and despite admitting and apologising for mistak
88 zkojq : I saw something about that on the news tonight. Absolutely sickening. I hope that those who are hateful enough to do such things pay dearly for it. T
89 Post contains images windy95 : Ummm...We did invade Afghanistan first.. Yes because the peace loving Arabs have been a very gracious host for the Israelis since 1947.
90 SOBHI51 : Wow, since when does a land thief became a guest?
91 BMI727 : What sort of guests do you have over at your house? You probably have a nice house right? Well I have these friends of mine who have fallen on hard t
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