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2012's Ugliest Cars  
User currently offlineRNOcommctr From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 830 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7213 times:

I commute 35 miles to work, so I get the chance to see a lot of cars. I have become somewhat of an armchair critic of automotive design. I'm no expert, but I know what I like and what I don't like. What do you think are the ugliest cars currently in production? I am talking about new models, not oldies like the Edsel and AMC Pacer. Two examples come to mind. The first, the Honda Fit.



To my eye, the Fit is a jangle of weird and incongruous lines and angles. Visual dissonance. The design is so busy my eyes get tired just looking at it.

Second, I propose the new Hyundai Elantra.



Just freaky. The swell over the rear wheels clashes with the horizontal line running along the main part of the body. I understand this is part of the new Hyundai design language (and I hate that term, but all the auto magazines have glommed on to it), but it is carried off much more smoothly in the Sonata. The Elantra's tail lights are garish and look like part of a Halloween costume.

If you are offended by my suggestions because you own one of these cars, bear in mind that I drive a 2010 Toyota Corolla, which certainly is not going to win any beauty contests.


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User currently offlineFingerLakerAv8r From United States of America, joined May 2011, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7172 times:



Seriously, I've caught fish in the lake prettier than this.


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15833 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7159 times:

Quoting FingerLakerAv8r (Reply 1):

The 500 isn't too bad since it's a retro styled car, but it's not half as good as the Mini. I admit I'd like it a lot less if it weren't based on the old 500, which could be a serious problem for Fiat since many Americans know nothing of the old 500, certainly not like the Beetle or Mini Cooper. A big part of the problem is that the wheels are too small and make it look like a golf cart.

The stretched version looks worse with every picture I see of it.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7151 times:

Quoting RNOcommctr (Thread starter):
I am talking about new models, not oldies like the Edsel and AMC Pacer.

Those are glamorous by today's standards.



Here is my ugly list;

BMW X3



Audi Q5



Mercedes M-class



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7155 times:

I still can't get used to this one, especially seeing it head-on:




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User currently offlineFingerLakerAv8r From United States of America, joined May 2011, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7133 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
BMW X3

Gahh! Kill it with fire!!!


User currently offlinesrqmuc From Germany, joined Jun 2010, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7090 times:

Here is my list of butt ugly cars (to be continued):

Cadillac CTS Coupe


Cadillac EXT (+Chevrloet Avalanche)


BMW 1 Series:


Infiniti QX56:


+ quite a few Fiat models


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7091 times:

Quoting srqmuc (Reply 6):
Cadillac EXT (+Chevrloet Avalanche)

  
Is that turd still in production?
Thought it was discontinued after the federal government takeover.

I forgot to include this thing.




Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7048 times:

Nissan Cube, hands down the ugliest vehicle ever built. Makes even the Pontiac Aztek look good.

That Fiat that's in the commercials these days with the Italian lady and the geek. Nice babe, hideous car.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33284 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7042 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):




Here is my ugly list;

BMW X3



Audi Q5



Mercedes M-class


More like your "I hate import crossovers from Germany" list. Oh, and by the way, the M-Class is a fully capable, real SUV. Mercedes has a long history of making off-road vehicles that dates back over 50 years, and the M follows that tradition.



a.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7025 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
More like your "I hate import crossovers from Germany" list.

I can't stand the ones from Japan and the US either.
I don't like crossovers period.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3678 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7001 times:

Bmw X6: Looks like a 4-door coupe on steroids

Nissan Cube: Very ugly, could be designed by a 5 year old who is "connecting dots" on a paper. Same thing for the boxy Scion cars.

Quoting srqmuc (Reply 6):
BMW 1 Series:

I agree, it just looks bad. I do like the convertible though.


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6984 times:

I take it that none of you has seen a SsangYong Actyon. I am afraid I have done so today and will refrain from torturing you with a photo.


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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6340 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6977 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):
I still can't get used to this one, especially seeing it head-on:

I agree, that thing is a tie with the Camaro as the ugliest car on the showroom floor today.



Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineUPS707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6975 times:

Just when I thought I had seen it all as far as C/SUV car combos (Honda Accord Aerodeck,BMW X6, Acura ZDX), Nissan had to go and beat theirs with a couple extra wacks of the ugly stick and create this.....

Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet:-

http://www.dieselstation.com/pics/Nissan-Murano-CrossCabriolet-2011-car-picture.jpg

http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2011-nissan-murano-cross-cabriolet-03.jpg

[Edited 2012-03-14 13:59:31]

User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2843 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6966 times:

Quoting lewis (Reply 11):
Nissan Cube: Very ugly, could be designed by a 5 year old who is "connecting dots" on a paper. Same thing for the boxy Scion cars.

Horribly ugly car. Everytime I see one I wonder just how expensive it is to replace the rear window on a Cube.



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User currently offlinesrqmuc From Germany, joined Jun 2010, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6915 times:

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 13):
Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):
I still can't get used to this one, especially seeing it head-on:

I agree, that thing is a tie with the Camaro as the ugliest car on the showroom floor today.

How could I forget the Camaro?! Ugly!

Quoting lewis (Reply 11):
I agree, it just looks bad. I do like the convertible though.

The old 1 Series/BMW E87 (which you probably refer to because there is no BMW F20 convertible so far) was IMHO quite right, but the new 1 Series/BMW F20 is just horrible! The front looks just plain wrong.

Quoting lewis (Reply 11):
Nissan Cube: Very ugly, could be designed by a 5 year old who is "connecting dots" on a paper. Same thing for the boxy Scion cars.

  


User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2059 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

The 2012 Boeing 787:   




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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1507 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

The Cube and the Prius are excellent choices. But I'm going to go for this, the spectacularly awful Ferrari F12 Berlinetta. Now I know this is a controversial choice, but you expect cheap cars to look terrible. You can't blame Ssangyong for not being able to afford the world's greatest designer. But a Ferrari should be staggeringly beautiful, and this just isn't.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zpXwnFiobUM/T1C42c0vvyI/AAAAAAAABM8/ERhHei4tX3Y/s1600/ferrari-f12-berlinetta-rear-view.JPG



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6821 times:

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet:-

Excuse me while I got vomit   


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21865 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6819 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 12):
I take it that none of you has seen a SsangYong Actyon. I am afraid I have done so today and will refrain from torturing you with a photo.

I, on the other hand, have no such reservations:

http://www.arpem.com/coches/coches/ssangyong/actyon/flash/ssang-yong-actyon-lat.jpg

     

-Mir



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User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2714 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6803 times:

Toyota iQ. Ugly and way too small, I'd rather use my bike then drive that.


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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6803 times:




Nissan NV.      



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6785 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 17):
The 2012 Boeing 787:

Don't even get me started on the 2012 Civic. I was pissed when they came out with this "re-design" which looked almost like the same car they came out with 6 years ago (I currently drive a 2007 HCH). The dealer was pushing me to get a 2012 and I looked at them and said "I'm not buying a car that looks nearly exactly like the one I have now...give me one that looks different and actually gets good write-ups and maybe we'll talk" LOL. Supposedly they are going to release an entirely new one for 2013 (we shall see).



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User currently offlineflyboyseven From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 905 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6744 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 8):
That Fiat that's in the commercials these days with the Italian lady and the geek. Nice babe, hideous car.

Just personal opinion here, but I think the new 500 is awesome, especially the Abarth version in the commercial you mentioned.



As for my least favorite, the Linconln MKT takes the cake for me




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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 25, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7050 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):
I still can't get used to this one, especially seeing it head-on

OMG, the Juke is hideous. The turn lamps on the hood look like giant sized toe nail clippings, and the overall look is much too close to the late, vomit-inducing Pontiac Aztec.

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet

Just fugly. No other word for it.

And I am forced to add the over-wrought beak and (first generation Oldsmobile Aurora-ish) ass-end of the brand new Lincoln MKZ to the ugly list.

2013 Lincoln MKZ (Concept) - Official Lincoln Photo
2013 Lincoln MKZ - Concept



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 26, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7050 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
I forgot to include this thing.

I was pleasantly surprised when I saw a TV ad for this, it actually makes quite a bit better looking...still wouldn't buy one, but it's a step in the right direction:

Quoting lewis (Reply 11):
Nissan Cube: Very ugly, could be designed by a 5 year old who is "connecting dots" on a paper. Same thing for the boxy Scion cars.

  

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 13):
I agree, that thing is a tie with the Camaro as the ugliest car on the showroom floor today.

I actually quite like the Camaro and I'd be happy to drive one.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 17):
The 2012 Boeing 787:

  



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3309 posts, RR: 13
Reply 27, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7168 times:
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Quoting RNOcommctr (Thread starter):
The first, the Honda Fit.

At least it's much better than the first generation Ft.

Quoting RNOcommctr (Thread starter):

The sedan is one of my absolutely favorite cars looks wise. If the turbo came in a stick shift it would be at the top of my list of prospective cars.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):

I love the M Class. It might be my favorite SUV.

Quoting srqmuc (Reply 6):

I agree with every car in here. Congratulations on having good taste.

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet

Hideous. My best friend loves it and I want to smack him every time he says so.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 18):
ut a Ferrari should be staggeringly beautiful, and this just isn't

Yes it is. It's so pretty it makes the 599 look like an ogre who fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. This new Ferrari is gorgeous. Especially compared to the monstrosity they released last year, the FF.

As for my list of the ugliest cars of 2012, I am going to go with the following:
All Scion models
Toyota iQ / Aston Martin Cygnet
Fiat 500
Honda Crosstour
BMW X6 and 5-series GT (though the regular 5-series is the most beautiful sedan out there except maybe for the Jaguar XF and the upcoming BMW 6-series GranCoupe).

There are plenty of boring and ugly sedans out there that I am too tired to think of.

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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1507 posts, RR: 4
Reply 28, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7134 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 27):
Yes it is. It's so pretty it makes the 599 look like an ogre who fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. This new Ferrari is gorgeous. Especially compared to the monstrosity they released last year, the FF.

No, this is worse- it looks like a cheap muscle car. Amazed you can thing that rear end is "gorgeous"!



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3678 posts, RR: 5
Reply 29, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7122 times:

Quoting flyboyseven (Reply 24):
Just personal opinion here, but I think the new 500 is awesome, especially the Abarth version in the commercial you mentioned.

I kind of like the 500, but then again, I'm European. I have driven the Abarth version in Greece, a very fast small car that handles really well for its size.


User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 30, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7114 times:

Quoting flyboyseven (Reply 24):
Just personal opinion here, but I think the new 500 is awesome, especially the Abarth version in the commercial you mentioned.

I have to agree - the Abarth model in the television commercials looks amazing. But what do I know??? Styling preferences is a very personal thing! And I drive THIS very polarizing car everyday!

2011 Kia Soul


[Edited 2012-03-14 18:59:13]

[Edited 2012-03-14 18:59:49]


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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 31, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7057 times:
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Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 30):
2011 Kia Soul

I hated that car when it first came out. I think the minor styling updates and the hamster commercials did good though. Now I don't mind it anymore  



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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 32, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7049 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 31):
I hated that car when it first came out. I think the minor styling updates and the hamster commercials did good though. Now I don't mind it anymore

I went from a nice, big Chevy Malibu to the Soul several months ago - the Soul now has 4,500 miles on it and has been perfect - except for 2 flat tires. And 28 mpg overall (mostly city driving). The car gets looks - some good, some not so good - and I've had a few people ask me "where are the hamsters" that go with the car.   



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 33, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 32):
I went from a nice, big Chevy Malibu

The last "big" Malibu was 1977.
Was yours a 1977 or older?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 34, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6982 times:
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Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 32):
and I've had a few people ask me "where are the hamsters" that go with the car.

Are you rocking out to Party Rock Anthem as you're cruising along?  



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15833 posts, RR: 27
Reply 35, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6967 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Mercedes M-class

I liked the old one better, but like the C Class and some recent Audis, you can hardly tell the difference between the old and the new with a quick glance.

Quoting aloges (Reply 12):

I take it that none of you has seen a SsangYong Actyon.

That isn't their first offensively styled vehicle.

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet:-

The price is even uglier.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 22):
Nissan NV.

It's not pretty, but then it isn't supposed to be. That said, the Sprinter is far more stylish.

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 30):
And I drive THIS very polarizing car everyday!

That thing is awful.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 31):
I think the minor styling updates and the hamster commercials did good though.

"Gee, I was on the fence about the Soul, but when I saw dancing, obese hamsters I just couldn't live without it"



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 36, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6962 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 35):
I liked the old one better, but like the C Class and some recent Audis, you can hardly tell the difference between the old and the new with a quick glance.

Can't stand ANY of them!
I don't like vehicles that look like a tennis shoe.
That's pretty much every CUV.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1890 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6934 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
I, on the other hand, have no such reservations:

Well, at least it predates the X6 by a few years.

So you can say the X6 is not only ugly, but an ugly copy of a butt-ugly cheapo Korean car.

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet:-

Oh.My.God.

This is really going too far.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 38, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6904 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 35):
"Gee, I was on the fence about the Soul, but when I saw dancing, obese hamsters I just couldn't live without it"

  

Don't judge! lol



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 39, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6896 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 18):
But a Ferrari should be staggeringly beautiful, and this just isn't.

Ferrari haven't built staggeringly beautiful since the 288GTO, everything and I do mean everything without exception since this masterpiece has been pretty average.

http://www.adrianblog.com/wp-content/uploads/ferrari_288_gto_side.jpg

Which is a shame because we know the Italians can build beautiful cars, like the Alfa 8C Competizione, this is what the California should have looked like.

http://www.otospace.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Alfa-Romeo-8C-Competizione-004-wallpaper.jpg


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1357 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6875 times:

Gembella Tornado (based on the Porsche Cayenne).
http://www.modifiedcars.com/pix/cars_high/35017_210222.jpg
http://publicanfashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2011-Gemballa-Tornado-Porsche-Cayenne-958-Rear-Angle-800x600.jpg

Lancia Ypsilon (2012 version).


GMC Terrain.
http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2011-gmc-terrain-fwd-4-door-sle-2-angular-front-exterior-view_100322998_l.jpg

Renault Fluence.


Someone already mentioned the Nissan Juke, but I thought that the Juke R is worth a separate mention.


The front on the Mercedes SL series now looks terrible. The previous version of the SL was rather pretty though.


Dacia Lodgy.


Lincoln Navigator. Whats with all the chrome?
Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Mercedes M-class

Yuck, that is truly hideous. The previous one wasn't marvelous either.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 8):
Nissan Cube, hands down the ugliest vehicle ever built. Makes even the Pontiac Aztek look good.

  

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
I don't like crossovers period.

Glad i'm not the only one.
Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet

Thankfully Nissan will never make a production version of that.
Quoting aloges (Reply 12):
I take it that none of you has seen a SsangYong Actyon.

Someone down the road from me has one of those. I wear sunglasses when I walk past to ensure the longevity of my vision.
Quoting flyboyseven (Reply 24):
Just personal opinion here, but I think the new 500 is awesome, especially the Abarth version in the commercial you mentioned.

  
Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 22):
Nissan NV

I hope that the person who designed that gets a big paycut this year.

[Edited 2012-03-15 04:17:34]


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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2860 posts, RR: 15
Reply 41, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

Quoting FingerLakerAv8r (Reply 1):

Whats wrong with you?   

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
many Americans know nothing of the old 500,

Oh. I see   

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):

I love it! I really want the Juke-R! Me fella calls it the Puke  
Quoting Mir (Reply 20):

Add the Rodius to this list. In the very back seat in one of them things...no one can hear you scream..

Quoting flyboyseven (Reply 24):

  

Quoting zkojq (Reply 40):
Renault Fluence.

Such a pointless & boring pos.   



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User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6790 times:

Honda CR-Z
Honda Fit
Hyundai Elantra (Seriously, I know a lot of people who think this car is beautiful, good to know I'm not alone in thinking it's ugly)
Hyundai Veloster
Kia Soul
Infiniti QX
Lexus CT
Mini Coupe
Mitsubishi i (It needs a real name too)
Nissan Cube
Nissan Juke
Nissan Leaf
Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet (Thank God no one else has followed suit with a convertible crossover)
(Seems like all Nissans that have been introduced lately are ugly, other than the 370z or GT-R)
Scion iQ (Roller Skate)
Scion xB
Smart Fortwo (Other Roller Skate)
Toyota Prius
Volvo C30 (What the hell is up with the back?)


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7279 posts, RR: 6
Reply 43, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6748 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):

I like the older M Class more. But I wouldn't call a ML an cross over. It is a real SUV with real SUV capabilities. It's not in the same class as an x3 or q5.

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 42):

That's a great list. I agree with just about all of those.



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User currently offlineUPS707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6743 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 40):
Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet

Thankfully Nissan will never make a production version of that.

Ummmm... check the Nissan USA website. Unfortunately they have.


User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6707 times:

How could I forget the Mercedes-Benz R-Class on my list. I was flipping through the Motor Trend 2012 buyers guides when I was making the list, guess I just overlooked it.

User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 46, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6702 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 40):

Someone already mentioned the Nissan Juke, but I thought that the Juke R is worth a separate mention.

I'd walk over hot coals to get one of these, what a beast, 500 plus HP is a small light AWD chassis, I doubt there is much that could live with one of these in the real world.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8478 posts, RR: 9
Reply 47, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6674 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 18):
Ferrari F12 Berlinetta.

The front isn't that bad - especially for those who like the Ninja School of Design.

The rear did surprise me a bit - it loops like the car has an anus. An anus with lights.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 39):
Which is a shame because we know the Italians can build beautiful cars, like the Alfa 8C Competizione, this is what the California should have looked like.

And this is going to be the challenge for FIAT in the US. The 500 has been delivered, now there is a need to deliver a larger sedan PLUS a car with some passion.

I actually like the 500, but that's because I first saw them on the streets of Rome - and well parked there in tight spaces.

It does look out of place in the US with all the big pick-em-up trucks and SUVs.

As for the KIA Soul, I sort of look at as a early 80's Corolla station wagon that has been raised up in height to provide reasonable vision around all those big pick-em-up trucks and SUVs in the US. I would consider one if I was younger, but then I actually like station wagons. Learned to drive on one and the wife & I have owned a couple. Including a Kingswood Station Wagon.

Quoting zkojq (Reply 40):
Renault Fluence.

Might be time for new glasses - when I first glanced at the car I thought it was a Renault Flatulence.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 48, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6680 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 43):
I like the older M Class more. But I wouldn't call a ML an cross over. It is a real SUV with real SUV capabilities. It's not in the same class as an x3 or q5.

That may be true but it looks like a CUV.
It's frikkin' ugly!

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 45):
How could I forget the Mercedes-Benz R-Class on my list.

That's pretty hideous too!
Throw in the A-class as well.

Other ugly vehicles is the Toyota Fortunner and Lexus RX-series.
Also the entire Scion brand and the Nissan Murano/Infiniti FX35/45



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 49, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6666 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 47):
now there is a need to deliver a larger sedan PLUS a car with some passion.

They have a great looking car in the Dart

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2012/01/19/021596-cover-cars-2013-dodge-dart-autoweek.1-lg.jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/35029031%2Bw786%2Bar1/2013-Dodge-Dart-front-seat.jpg

and the 4c promises a lot of passion

http://www.car-addicts.com/wp-content/gallery/alfa-romeo-4c-concept-geneva-2011-live/Alfa_Romeo_4C_Concept_03.jpg


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1357 posts, RR: 1
Reply 50, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6586 times:

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 44):
Ummmm... check the Nissan USA website. Unfortunately they have.

   That makes very little business sense. Even if it looked ok - who is going to buy a two door, four seat, SUV-cabriolet? The engineering costs to strengthen the chassis, remove the roof and replace it with a folding one (also it appears that the wheelbase has been shortened) can't be unsubstantial. With a relatively high center of gravity, it must be horrible to drive, compared to any other cabriolet. And then there are the looks....   



First to fly on the Boeing 787-9 with Air New Zealand and ZK-NZE; NZ103, AKL-SYD, 2014/08/09. I was 83rd to board.
User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6340 posts, RR: 33
Reply 51, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6553 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 49):
They have a great looking car in the Dart

I'll agree but I'll be damned if I could drive that thing more than 10 miles, much less as a daily driver. Ther's nowhere to stretch out.



Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8478 posts, RR: 9
Reply 52, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6469 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 49):
and the 4c promises a lot of passion

And lacks affordability for most people.

I'm tinkling about a sports type car under $20K

Think back to the days of the MG-A or TR 3. Go down even lower in price for the Triumph Spitfire.


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15833 posts, RR: 27
Reply 53, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6462 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 40):
Gembella Tornado (based on the Porsche Cayenne).

The thing is that once a car is fast enough, looks matter less and less.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 49):
They have a great looking car in the Dart

I'm sure the Alfa version would look that much better.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 54, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6423 times:

Quoting srqmuc (Reply 6):
Cadillac CTS Coupe



HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE CTS COUPE LIKE THIS! THE CTS COUPE, IS A BEAUTIFUL CAR!


User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 55, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6374 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 32):
the Soul now has 4,500 miles on it and has been perfect - except for 2 flat tires. And 28 mpg overall (mostly city driving). The car gets looks



Here's a question for you; why does everyone out there (or on here) think they always have to run out and buy a brand new car ? A deceptively simple question. I am totally out of touch with new car prices, but let's take the Kia Soul for an example; what does a new one go for, no haggle, best price ? Over 20K ? 22K ? 24 even ? Whatever.

Next......what % of the car buying public walk into a car dealership, whip out the check book, and say "I want that one, and I want to pay xxx$ for it. You want to sell it, I'll write the check, and go to the bank with you to cash it; If you don't, no problemo, I'm off to the next Kia Dealer. Let's say the guy is really "hungry".........he takes your deal, says make the check for (i'm guessing here) 22 K they have this "fee" they all charge, I forget what it's called, but it's another $ 200 The sales tax on the $22,000 (in Indiana) is gonna add another $1,650......make the check for $23,850. You still have to buy plates for a NEW 2012 KIa Soul, then before you drive off the lot, you BETTER get some insurance(the cost of which is figured against the new car cost, or $ 22,000.

Next day you're showing your new Soul to your neighbor, your uncle, whoever............and you got $23,850 in it ( plus however much interest is on however much you borrowed to buy it...........and your "prickie" neighbor points out ......PLUS the thing is NOW worth about 4K less than it was in the show room ; ( depreciation just reared it's ugly head!)

You're probably thinking, "so what; I wasn't gonna sell it anyway"; ( we haven't even mentioned the monthly "dent" in your income the payment is gonna make.

The point I'm making is, buying new cars is expensive.......VERY expensive. It's also "financially, very unwise" to do so;
(Unless of course you happen to be one of these people who love to "impress whoever" with your brand new car ! (Only you can answer that)

Incidently , I think Kia Souls are kinda cute; I checked them and the Scion out before I bought a Cube; (which I LOVE!)


Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently onlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4065 posts, RR: 30
Reply 56, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6359 times:

Quoting RNOcommctr (Thread starter):
The first, the Honda Fit.

I disagree. I have a Honda Fit (one of the prior generation, but in red as the one in the picture) and I love it, it is a great car, and the new/current one looks and seems even better. If I was on the market for a new car I would definitely consider it.

Quoting lewis (Reply 11):
Bmw X6: Looks like a 4-door coupe on steroids

I wonder - is that the ugliest car to ever come out of Germany?

Quoting aloges (Reply 12):
I take it that none of you has seen a SsangYong Actyon. I am afraid I have done so today and will refrain from torturing you with a photo.

Kill it! Kill it with fire!

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet:-

Not only the ugliest car in production today, but also the most stupid and pointless. Quite a feat indeed.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 18):
But I'm going to go for this, the spectacularly awful Ferrari F12 Berlinetta

What? How dare you? I demand, pistols at dawn!

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 27):
At least it's much better than the first generation Ft.

And you can come over 5 minutes past dawn, after I am finised dispatching zckls04.

Quoting zkojq (Reply 40):
Gembella

I though we were talking about cars in this thread, not what happens when 50-Cent gets high on PCP and crashes into a carbon-fibre autoclave. My bad, I guess.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 49):
and the 4c promises a lot of passion

I know that was not your intention, but please refrain from even mentioning the name of the 4c in a thread about the ugliest cars. That is like posting a picture of Scarlett Johansson in a thread about "Show us your ugliest mutilated accident victims" - just makes the chubby that much more awkward.



Read this very carefully, I shall write this only once!
User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 57, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6336 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 55):
The point I'm making is, buying new cars is expensive.......VERY expensive. It's also "financially, very unwise" to do so;
(Unless of course you happen to be one of these people who love to "impress whoever" with your brand new car ! (Only you can answer that)



Well, here's the deal with buying a new car. Number one, I got a fantastic car loan rate (1.9 percent) on the Soul, and the Malibu that I traded in (which was bought used from a private seller that was "distressed", she couldn't afford to make her payments when she lost her job and sold me the Malibu for exactly what she owed the bank for it), and had a fair amount of mileage on it. I wanted to unload the Malibu before it got too much mileage on it and its resale value dropped like a rock.

Here in the wilds of southern Arizona, you need a reliable newish car. Nothing like breaking down on Interstate 10 on a summer's day between Phoenix and Quartzsite when it's 120 degrees outside and it's 50 or 60 miles to the nearest service station (trust me, this has happenned to me. Never ever again!).....



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User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6321 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 56):

Quoting lewis (Reply 11):
Bmw X6: Looks like a 4-door coupe on steroids

I wonder - is that the ugliest car to ever come out of Germany?

Nope, I'm sure most posters here would agree that the title goes to....

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 45):
Mercedes-Benz R-Class


User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5615 posts, RR: 28
Reply 59, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6304 times:

Although that Nissan CrossCabrio is stunning in its uglitude, I still have a hard time imagining anything worse than the "Smart" Car (and yes, I know, that's the brand name, but I cannot call it "Smart" without the quotes, because then someone might think that I believe something incredibly stupid is... ummm... smart).


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 60, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6281 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 55):
The point I'm making is, buying new cars is expensive

Depending on the seond hand car you want, buying second hand isn't a cheap option either.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 53):
I'm sure the Alfa version would look that much better.

I don't think it does. The Dart is based on the Giulietta, I prefer the Dart.

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/alfa-romeo/giulietta/2011/fd/2011_alfa-romeo_giulietta_actf34_fd_414101_717.jpg


User currently offlineEY460 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6256 times:

Quoting sccutler (Reply 59):
I still have a hard time imagining anything worse than the "Smart" Car (and yes, I know, that's the brand name, but I cannot call it "Smart" without the quotes, because then someone might think that I believe something incredibly stupid is... ummm... smart).



Sorry but I strongly disagree with you. I think the stupid move was to import very small cars, such as the Smart car or the Fiat 500 to the US (or Australia) where there is very little market for them.

First of all space: Roads and parking spaces are larger in US or Australia (I have driven in both countries and Europe). Not only the physical size of roads, but lane width and the size of a parking spot on a road or in a public parking. You park a normal car and you struggle to open the doors.

Then fuel price. Here in Italy fuel is very close to 2 euro per liter, much more expensive then the US, and the price is forecast to raise further.

For this reason a Smart car makes a lot of sense. Of course if you don't have a family or as a second car. How often do you carry more than one passenger on your car? (again, I'm not talking about families).

My parents have a Smart car as a second car and I use it often. Easy to park and using little fuel. Of course it's not a perfect car. Suspensions are very hard and you feel every bump in the road and interiors are very poor, especially considering the price of the car.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 62, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6235 times:

Quoting sccutler (Reply 59):
Although that Nissan CrossCabrio is stunning in its uglitude, I still have a hard time imagining anything worse than the "Smart" Car (and yes, I know, that's the brand name, but I cannot call it "Smart" without the quotes, because then someone might think that I believe something incredibly stupid is... ummm... smart).

I keep forgetting about that 'car'. It looks more like a telephone booth.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 63, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6187 times:

Quoting EY460 (Reply 61):
Sorry but I strongly disagree with you. I think the stupid move was to import very small cars, such as the Smart car or the Fiat 500 to the US (or Australia) where there is very little market for them.

First of all space: Roads and parking spaces are larger in US or Australia (I have driven in both countries and Europe). Not only the physical size of roads, but lane width and the size of a parking spot on a road or in a public parking. You park a normal car and you struggle to open the doors.

I hate to break this to you but sales of small cars in Australia are skyrocketing, Fiat are selling 500's like crazy, on some models like the Abarth there are long waiting lists, just because a country is big, with wide roads, large parking spaces doesn't mean they need big cars to fill them up, or deep enough pockets to pay for the fuel, hence the decline of the Aussie V8.

BTW with regard to parking spaces, they are the same size in Australia as they are in New Zealand which is pretty much what you get in Europe size wide.


User currently offlineEY460 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 6138 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 63):
I hate to break this to you but sales of small cars in Australia are skyrocketing, Fiat are selling 500's like crazy, on some models like the Abarth there are long waiting lists, just because a country is big, with wide roads, large parking spaces doesn't mean they need big cars to fill them up, or deep enough pockets to pay for the fuel, hence the decline of the Aussie V8.

I remember seeing several 500s but very few Smart cars. But you're right, with the fuel price increasing, also the sales of small cars will increase. I agree with you, but the average size of cars in Australia is larger than those in Europe (well, Italy at least). I remember that the Commodore was the most sold car there (not sure if it still is) and also the Ford Falcon was very common. Here cars of the size of a 500 are the most popular ones.


User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5615 posts, RR: 28
Reply 65, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 6125 times:

Quoting EY460 (Reply 61):


Sorry but I strongly disagree with you. I think the stupid move was to import very small cars, such as the Smart car or the Fiat 500 to the US (or Australia) where there is very little market for them.

First of all space: Roads and parking spaces are larger in US or Australia (I have driven in both countries and Europe). Not only the physical size of roads, but lane width and the size of a parking spot on a road or in a public parking. You park a normal car and you struggle to open the doors.

Then fuel price. Here in Italy fuel is very close to 2 euro per liter, much more expensive then the US, and the price is forecast to raise further.

Nothing to apologize for, I actually think that the Smart cars are, for what they are, brilliant. It's just that what they are, is not relevant to most car buyers.

As you note, and I'll firmly endorse, the Smart is a sound answer to the needs of very urban car users, places like Paris, where parking is nearly impossible.

Catch is, they just don't work for most US places; they are slow, ill-handling, and the fuel economy just ain't that great (certainly, not good enough for the many profound compromises they introduce). And (at least here) they are expensive.

Safety is a major issue as well; the engineers responsible for the Smart car have done amazing and innovative things in making the Smart as crash-worthy as it can be, and their work is worthy of awards. All that said, you still cannot evade the laws of physics, and you're going to be and remain at a disadvantage in relation to larger vehicles. And, of course, their driving dynamics, while just fine for the close-quarters, crowded, low-speed urban work, make the cars downright hazardous for open-road use.

So really, it's not a bad car - it's a wonderful car for where it's right, and a terrible car for where it is not, and I'd suggest that "where it is not" is loosely defined as "almost everywhere."

If I lived in a heavily urban area (say, like in-town San Francisco), where car ownership was burdensome and parking, scarce, I'd opt to subscribe to one of the brilliant car-share schemes which have popped up.

Hope that explains my position.

But.

The Smart Car is, in every possible definition of the word, ugly. Uglified. Hit upside the head with an ugly stick. So ugly, when it was born, the doctor slapped its Mama.

It's UGLY!



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 66, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6112 times:

Quoting EY460 (Reply 64):
I remember that the Commodore was the most sold car there (not sure if it still is) and also the Ford Falcon was very common.

The most popular car in Australia is the mazda 3. Of the top selling cars in Australia only the Falcoln and Commodore are large all the rest are small to mid size.

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2012/...3-on-top-subaru-xv-leads-category/


User currently offlineEY460 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6083 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 66):
The most popular car in Australia is the mazda 3. Of the top selling cars in Australia only the Falcoln and Commodore are large all the rest are small to mid size.



I don't want to start a fight with you, but this is the top 10 of the cars sold in Italy in 2011:
Fiat Punto - 86.851
Fiat Panda - 77.318
Ford Fiesta - 47.152
Fiat 500 - 45.051
Volkswagen Golf - 36.422
Lancia Ypsilon - 35.529
Volkswagen Polo - 30.697
Citroen C3 - 28.371
Opel Corsa - 26.160
Alfa Romeo Giulietta - 25.946

The largest cars are the Golf and the Giulietta. In the Australia top 10 you also have the Hilux and the Navara. OK, they are utes but they are not small. Then we can say that in our top 10 only two are not ugly (I only save the two Germans).


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 68, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6053 times:

That's Italy, historically Italians have always bought small cars.

It's interesting seeing what are the top selling cars in a few markets I'm interested in.

Norway 2011

1 VW Golf
2 VW Passat
3 Ford Focus
4 Mitsubishi ASX
5 Volvo V70
6 Toyota Avenis
7 Nissan Qashqai
8 Skoda Octavia
9 Ford Mondeo
10 Toyota Aurus

Sweden 2011

1 Volvo V70
2 VW Passat
3 VW Golf
4 Volvo V60
5 Volvo V50
6 Kia C'eed
7 Audi A4
8 Volvo XC60
9 Renault Megan
10 Ford Focus

Germany 2011

1 VW Golf/Plus/Jetta
2 VW Passat
3 VW Polo
4 Opel Astra
5 Mercedes C Class
6 Opel Corsa
7 BMW 3 Series
8 Mercedes E Class
9 Ford Focus
10 BMW 5 Series

New Zealand 2011

1 Toyota Corolla
2 Suzuki Swift
3 Hyundai i30
4 Mazda 3
5 Holden Cruze
6 Holden Commodore
7 Holden Captiva
8 Toyota Hilux
9 Nissan Navara
10 Ford Mondeo

Canada 2011

1 Ford F Series
2 Dodge Ram
3 Honda Civic
4 Dodge Grand Caravan
5 GMC Sierra
6 Hyundai Elantra
7 Ford Escape
8 Chevrolet Silverado
9 Mazda 3
10 Toyota Corolla


User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

Speaking of the 'Smart' car. I agree with most on here, it is a horrible looking car. I call it a roller skate. It is just not safe to drive, at least here in the U.S. They did do a good job with making it safe, and it performs well in crash tests, but how often do you crash into a brick wall? In the U.S, especially the south, where I live, you're more likely to crash into a lifted Ford F-250. As SCCutler said, you can't ignore the laws of physics.

I have driven one too, not very fun to drive. It was just like the Go-Cart I had back in the second grade. Not much bigger than that Go-Cart either.


User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

The winner (loser) in the ugliest car hall of shame used to be the Nissan Cube. Now Nissan has outdone itself by creating a new winner (loser) in the hall of shame. Introducing the Nissan Joke...I mean Juke, which looks like puke.

User currently offlinesrqmuc From Germany, joined Jun 2010, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5977 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
  
Is that turd still in production?
Thought it was discontinued after the federal government takeover.

Unfortunately yes!

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 68):
Germany 2011

1 VW Golf/Plus/Jetta
2 VW Passat
3 VW Polo
4 Opel Astra
5 Mercedes C Class
6 Opel Corsa
7 BMW 3 Series
8 Mercedes E Class
9 Ford Focus
10 BMW 5 Series

There is no Audi in that Top10? I would have thought that the Audi A4 is on that list, too. On the other hand the current all current Audi models are basicly look alikes (but pretty nice) and I probably lumped them all together :P

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 54):
Quoting srqmuc (Reply 6):
Cadillac CTS Coupe

HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE CTS COUPE LIKE THIS! THE CTS COUPE, IS A BEAUTIFUL CAR!

Because I think it is a fugly POS car, which look like a flattened Toyota Prius.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 49):
and the 4c promises a lot of passion

Dude, don't post a pic of these two beauties in a thread about the ugliest cars!!

Quoting zkojq (Reply 40):
Gembella Tornado (based on the Porsche Cayenne).
Lancia Ypsilon (2012 version).
Renault Fluence.
Someone already mentioned the Nissan Juke, but I thought that the Juke R is worth a separate mention.
The front on the Mercedes SL series now looks terrible. The previous version of the SL was rather pretty though.
Dacia Lodgy.
Lincoln Navigator. Whats with all the chrome?

Ugly ugly ugly! I have to add the Lincoln MKX (nice commercial, though) plus all the other Lincoln models (not counting the Town car, which looks ok):


VW up! (+ all the other micro cars, e.g. Toyota iQ,..): they may useful and practical as a city car but they are also ugly:


User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 72, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 55):
why does everyone out there (or on here) think they always have to run out and buy a brand new car ?

Sure can't speak for everyone but can for myself. I usually keep a car for about four years, give or take. Do I need a new car that often? Heck no, but I like the reliability of newer car, the feeling that I can hop in at a moment's notice and go on a 4000 mile road trip without wondering if it will break down or if it needs a new set of tires etc. And yeah, it's expensive but I get a good amount for the old car I am selling/trading and I'm spending money on payments for the new, more reliable car rather than on repairs and part replacement on the older car. I can afford to do so and I choose to. When I retire, that may change my habits but for now, I choose to live the above lifestyle choice when it comes to cars. My brother on the other hand, will never ever buy a new car. That doesn't make him wrong and me right or vice versa

Quoting sccutler (Reply 59):
I still have a hard time imagining anything worse than the "Smart" Car

Oh man, I forgot ll about that one - yeah, right up there on the fugly scale!!


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 73, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5971 times:

Quoting bohica (Reply 70):
Now Nissan has outdone itself by creating a new winner (loser) in the hall of shame.

Don't forget that these are the people who thought it a good idea to put the Micra C+C into production.  



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineUPS707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5945 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 73):
Don't forget that these are the people who thought it a good idea to put the Micra C+C into production.  

Why oh why couldn't I just take your word for it instead of Googling it? Now I have to go try and get that image out of my head.

 


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 75, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5863 times:

Quoting srqmuc (Reply 71):
plus all the other Lincoln models (not counting the Town car, which looks ok):

Sadly that is no longer with us, 2011 being the last year.
The Lincoln brand died when the final Town Car rolled off the assembly line last year.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently onlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4065 posts, RR: 30
Reply 76, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5826 times:

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 74):
Why oh why couldn't I just take your word for it instead of Googling it? Now I have to go try and get that image out of my head.

Look up Nissan Murano Cabriolet to cleanse your eyesight...

Come to think of it, Nissan does seem to be on a roll of stupendously ugly cars. Must be the whole Renault thing they have going on now.



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User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 77, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5770 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):

Quoting RNOcommctr (Thread starter):
I am talking about new models, not oldies like the Edsel and AMC Pacer.

Those are glamorous by today's standards.



Here is my ugly list;

BMW X3



Audi Q5



Mercedes M-class


Those are all nice looking cars.



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User currently offlinef1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 42):
Volvo C30 (What the hell is up with the back?)

Again like the Fiat 500(which I like with large diameter wheels) it has a previous model that never made the the shores of the USA. Its the volvo 480. Google it. I loved that car in its time. Pop ups lights etc. Here is a image

.


I pretty much agree with the general consensus with the cars listed here.

Here is the top 10 brands in Ireland. Unfortunately its not broken down to the specific car. I have put in what i think!

Top 10 brands
Toyota – 3,434 - Mostly the avensis
Ford -2,685 - mostly the focus
Volkswagen - 2,627 - mostly golf
Renault – 1,502
Nissan – 1,440
Hyundai – 1,267
Skoda – 1,266 - mostly the octavia
Opel – 1,254
BMW - 855 mostly the 3 series
Audi - 764 - mostly the A4

Anyway i must go out now, being Paddy's day and all.

So i wish ye all a happy Paddy's day!

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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 79, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5617 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 75):
The Lincoln brand died when the final Town Car rolled off the assembly line last year.

You better tell Ford that, they keep on selling cars branded Lincoln, some people buy them too.


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 80, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5609 times:

Quoting flyboyseven (Reply 24):
As for my least favorite, the Linconln MKT takes the cake for me

I've seen nicer sewage treatment plants!
     



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15833 posts, RR: 27
Reply 81, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5567 times:

Quoting f1eddie (Reply 78):
Again like the Fiat 500(which I like with large diameter wheels) it has a previous model that never made the the shores of the USA. Its the volvo 480. Google it. I loved that car in its time. Pop ups lights etc. Here is a image

There was a similar looking model in the US too that people will think of when they see the C30: the AMC Gremlin and Pacer which was one of the worst cars of all time.



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User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5548 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
I don't like crossovers period.

The problem is that in terms of cars, and not just crossovers, you are the 0.1%.

What you like is nearly irrelevant when discussing what most people (the market) want.

I do respect your opinion, I'm just pointing out that it's basically irrelivant (on cars). Most people don't want ginourmous 1970's American sedans.


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 83, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5538 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Is that turd still in production?
Thought it was discontinued after the federal government takeover.

I forgot to include this thing.

  

The PBS, tree huggers and hipsters love this turd on wheels.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 84, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5515 times:

Here are some of mine: In no particular order.
  • http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Woodenesc.jpg/180px-Woodenesc.jpg http://www.kia-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2010-nissan-cube-2.jpg Nissan Cube; an abortion on wheels. The stupid looking design especially the shape of the windows reminds me of an escalator!
  • http://hybridcarspecs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2011-Hyundai-Sonata-Hybrid-Front-View-Exterior.jpg
    The hybrid version has the ugliest grille. A face even a mother could hate. A tragedy in as much as the Elantra has crisp modern lines that put the Accord and Altima designs to shame. As a matter of fact the gas/regular version looks a bit like a sleek contemporary Mercedes design. But that brace face grill has got to go. I guess it's ugly chic that appeals to the rich hipsters, egg heads and tree hugger elites.

  • Accuras used to be hot looking cars but no more! What is it with that ghetto centric metal mouth grille? On all their models?
    WTF?
  • This latest generation of Caddie's 4 door looks tubby with that way too raked angle side window. The prior incarnation looked classier!


I'll have more fuglies to come!



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 85, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 82):
The problem is that in terms of cars, and not just crossovers, you are the 0.1%.

So all those Occupy Wall Street 99% people are protesting me?  
Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 82):
What you like is nearly irrelevant when discussing what most people (the market) want.

I like sedans which still sale very well.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 83):
The PBS, tree huggers and hipsters love this turd on wheels.

They better love that turd on wheels. Due to it's high profit margin for GM, it can allow GM workers to keep their nice benefits and full pension years beyond retirement.




Quoting zippyjet (Reply 84):
This latest generation of Caddie's 4 door looks tubby with that way too raked angle side window. The prior incarnation looked classier!

I don't like the rear window styling. It looks asymmetrical.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinef1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5416 times:

Quoting UPS707 (Reply 14):
Introducing the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet:-

How about the Land Rover equivalent? I don't like it!

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/06/l...onvertible-concept-is-a-good-thin/



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 87, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

[quote=f1eddie,reply=86]How about the Land Rover equivalent? I don't like it!

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/06/l...onvertible-concept-is-a-good-thin/


That's just wrong - with any luck it never sees the light of day


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 88, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5350 times:

I think it looks great, JLR recently announced the Halewood plant is going to 3 shifts, LR can't build enough Evoques, sales of the Freelander are also increasing. This one is a dead cert for production, it will sell like hotcakes.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/37015270+w786+ar1/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Evoque-Convertible-side.jpg


User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 89, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5333 times:

I think it would be shorter to list 2012's cars that actually AREN'T ugly.

The vast majority of cars out there I would never consider buying. I suppose that's nothing new (there have been hundreds of ugly car designs throughout the years), but still...

I'll go ahead and take most of them out in one fell swoop:

All Acuras. The "metal mouth grille" mentioned earlier is a complete deal-breaker.
All Lincolns. The deranged "baleen mouth" makes these cars honestly look like sperm whales.
Almost all Chryslers. The new face of the 200 and 300 is fugly, and the styling and advertising of these cars cater to wannabe mobsters/mafia.
Almost all Hondas. Dunno what happened in the styling department, but the new Civic, Accord Crosstour (seriously?), Pilot, RidgeLine (why even try?), etc...
Most Subarus (save the Legacy, which I am seriously considering for my next automobile).
Most Toyotas. I'm not sure why they feel the need to copy Honda's front-end styling for the Camry involving a big chrome strip across the grille and a stupid buck-tooth emblem hanging down in the middle.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 90, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 89):
All Acuras. The "metal mouth grille" mentioned earlier is a complete deal-breaker.
All Lincolns. The deranged "baleen mouth" makes these cars honestly look like sperm whales.

For me, the grille just kills the current generation Camaro:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/BumblebeeCamaro-02.jpg/799px-BumblebeeCamaro-02.jpg

That car is dead to me.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 91, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):

Quoting aloges (Reply 12):
I take it that none of you has seen a SsangYong Actyon. I am afraid I have done so today and will refrain from torturing you with a photo.

I, on the other hand, have no such reservations:


Sort of reminds me of a Chevette 4 door.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 23):
Supposedly they are going to release an entirely new one for 2013 (we shall see).

This will go down as Honda's big hiccup! The kill shot was when Consumer Reports panned it and removed it from it's recomended list. Sadly the 2013 Civic will not be entirely new. Version 2013 will be akin to their usual mid cycle face lift freshening up. Hopefully they will have listened to Consumer Reports and revived the quality fit and finish, sportier handling fun to drive quotient. All the elements that made the Civic one of the leaders in the small compact car market. At least the 2012 4 door took a bit of that 1996 Taurus jelly bean round factor out.

The Kia Soul with those rapping hamsters or gerbils is just a plain fugly tub on wheels.

I like the looks of the current bitchin Camarro however those side mirrors are Fugly and remind me of the clunky chunky sport mirrors on Fords from the 70's. The General (GM) used to have the hot looking sport mirrors from the 70's to the 80's.

Bitchin Camarro mirror

The classic GM sport mirrors.

http://www.automizel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2011-Hyundai-Sonata-Hybrid-Front-View-Exterior-Design-1024x576.jpg
In my previous post on this thread I attempted to capture the ruination of the otherwise cool looking Hundai Sonata. For their hybrid version they had to change the grille to this horrid design. Looks like a hippo smiling, a grille even a mother could hate. The standard gas powered Sonata is what the Honda Accord should look like at least in my opinion.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xec1BqwW1P8/TU1sKUmUycI/AAAAAAAAAKw/GqjzylPG95Q/s1600/wright_streetcar_brt_red.jpg

OK it's not a car or SUV but this fugly bus deserves honorable mention for ugly thing on wheels 2012!

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 26):

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 13):
I agree, that thing is a tie with the Camaro as the ugliest car on the showroom floor today.

I actually quite like the Camaro and I'd be happy to drive one.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 92, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 91):
I like the looks of the current bitchin Camarro

I had heard of the new camaro when I walked up on one in a parking lot from behind. I said, wow! I kept looking it over and was totally impressed till I saw the grille, then, ugh! Total butter face!



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2059 posts, RR: 8
Reply 93, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5065 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 92):
I had heard of the new camaro when I walked up on one in a parking lot from behind. I said, wow! I kept looking it over and was totally impressed till I saw the grille, then, ugh! Total butter face!

That grille has been mentioned a few times here. But what really gets me about the Camaro is it's horrid instrument panel. It looks really bad, the two "pods" for the speedo and tach look out of place, and the radio/AC/Heat controls are even worse than the mini-coopers romper-room controls. The gauges mounted behind the gear selector are cool, but thats about it.



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 94, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5057 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 33):
The last "big" Malibu was 1977.
Was yours a 1977 or older?

IIRC, his last car (a black Malibu) was a 2008 model; which was the first Malibu to have a wheelbase longer (112") than an identical-vintage Impala (110") since 1977. Although, that has come to an end with the 2013 model (although Ford's doing the opposite with its 2013 Fusion).

Quoting N243NW (Reply 89):
I think it would be shorter to list 2012's cars that actually AREN'T ugly.

   Good point.

This recent Hyundai (the Veloster) offering comes to mind:

http://www.automotorblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Hyundai-Veloster-13.jpg

Most if not new all hatchback cars are outright ugly to me.



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User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2474 posts, RR: 9
Reply 95, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
I forgot to include this thing.

I don't think of my Prius as ugly, just relentlessly bland. Actually, it would have a lot more personality were it truly ugly.


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 96, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4914 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 95):
I don't think of my Prius as ugly, just relentlessly bland. Actually, it would have a lot more personality were it truly ugly.

Why does the "restyled" Prius look almost identical to the prior generation? It's old in the tooth and the rear window is distorted looking too small like an after thought.



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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 97, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 94):
This recent Hyundai (the Veloster) offering comes to mind:

The "styling" and the name of the Veloster are also incredibly ironic, since it's slow as molasses. 0-60 in 9.8 seconds (for the automatic, I assume), according to cars.com.



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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4849 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 89):
Most Subarus (save the Legacy, which I am seriously considering for my next automobile).

You had me nodding in strong agreement until you got there. Suburu partly hid the ugly stick with the previous series, but seemed to have upped ugly stick investment for the current series.

You're dead right about the Acuras - the Honda versions in other markets mostly look attractive with their different grilles.


User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 99, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

Also, why do car manufacturers assume that in order to make an economy car or family sedan look "sporty," it needs to look like a wedge and have its ass end up in the air? There are so many cases of that in today's market.

People think it makes the car look like it's ready to pounce, but I think it just looks like it's passing gas. The new Civic is maybe the worst offender.

http://www.gotbroken.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2012-Honda-Civic-Si-Coupe-Rear-Side-Picture-800x533.jpg



http://www.newfuturecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2012-toyota-prius-rear-back-view.jpg





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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 100, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 99):
Also, why do car manufacturers assume that in order to make an economy car or family sedan look "sporty," it needs to look like a wedge and have its ass end up in the air? There are so many cases of that in today's market.

Its not to look sporty, it is for better aerodynamics and rear crash protection. Interesting how you link it to sporty though, which kind of plays in the automaker's hands...

[Edited 2012-03-20 19:04:29]

User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 101, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 98):
You had me nodding in strong agreement until you got there. Suburu partly hid the ugly stick with the previous series, but seemed to have upped ugly stick investment for the current series.

As far as current cars go, I would argue that the Legacy is among the best looking, but I will agree that even that car took a slight turn for the worse with the current generation. From certain angles, it's a bit more bloated/overweight looking than I would like. Still, it's nowhere near as gaudy (or downright hideous) as many other cars on the market.

My favorite generation is the 2003-2009 (I think this particular photo is an Australian-market 2004 model), but by the time I'm in the market for a new car, a low-mileage 2009 Legacy will be hard to find.



My mom just got a 2011 Outback - which has the same interior as the Legacy - and I really like its interior. It's much improved over the previous generation, IMO.

Quoting Polot (Reply 100):
Its not to look sporty, it is for better aerodynamics and rear crash protection. Interesting how you link it to sporty though, which kind of plays in the automaker's hands...

True, but some manufacturers do "sporty" more tastefully than others... Smile

[Edited 2012-03-20 19:24:33]


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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 102, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 101):
My mom just got a 2011 Outback - which has the same interior as the Legacy - and I really like its interior. It's much improved over the previous generation, IMO.

I had a 2004 Outback but, for a range of reasons (including availability when I wanted to buy) now have a Skoda Scout. To me the new Outback is even uglier than the current Legacy/Liberty (and I find the US version even worse than the Japanese/Oz version), with an unecessary increase in ground clearance and roof height.

But different strokes etc - I quite like the look of that Mazda and a number of the so-called uglies in this thread. And to me, many of the most recent BMWs and Mercs (not just the SUVs) belong better in this thread than in the "Best looking" thread. Really MB, do you need to graft an SLS nose onto everything? The SLK looks particularly rubbish, and the CLS has been done no favours either.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 103, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 99):
Also, why do car manufacturers assume that in order to make an economy car or family sedan look "sporty," it needs to look like a wedge and have its ass end up in the air? There are so many cases of that in today's market


Good question and I've been wondering the same. Hence this is why I selected cars that do not have that profile.
Why does economy and family sedans need to look "sporty" in the first place?
What is wrong with formal styled vehicles?



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 104, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

I've said it before in similar threads and I'll say it again here. We are in what seems to be the Dark Ages of automotive styling. Why in this era are car interiors limited to black, grey or brown? I miss the red and blue interiors. At least they'd add some flair to the dreary cookie cutter and fugly ducklings on wheels being produced today.

And, Toyota should be ashamed of themselves with their Scion brand. Seems like their designers and their customer base go out of their way to seek the ugly fugly stick when it comes to styling. The previous Scion sport coupe looked like a bloated tub but the latest sport coupe is an abortion on wheels. Looks like a kid styled it between playing with his or her tinker toys.

For God's sake Toyota wake up and revive the Celica and get some stylists who know more than funny ugly and vanilla sleepy time design.



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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 105, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4821 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 97):
The "styling" and the name of the Veloster are also incredibly ironic, since it's slow as molasses. 0-60 in 9.8 seconds (for the automatic, I assume), according to cars.com.

The regular Veloster is a total "chick car". All style, no balls. The turbocharged variant of the Veloster is now available, but its acceleration is merely "acceptable" at 6 seconds from a standstill to 60mph - with the 6 speed manual transmission. The automatic version will be at least a second slower.



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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 106, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4772 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 104):
I've said it before in similar threads and I'll say it again here. We are in what seems to be the Dark Ages of automotive styling. Why in this era are car interiors limited to black, grey or brown? I miss the red and blue interiors. At least they'd add some flair to the dreary cookie cutter and fugly ducklings on wheels being produced today.

No the dark ages were definitely the 90s and early 2000s. Things are actually much much better now.


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 107, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4778 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 99):
have its ass end up in the air
Quoting N243NW (Reply 99):
it just looks like it's passing gas

Great, now we know that you like to put your ass up in the air when passing gas! 



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 108, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 106):
No the dark ages were definitely the 90s and early 2000s. Things are actually much much better now.

At least then you still had the Celica and other cool cars and this predated the Accura metal mouth noxvomitous Brace FAce grille and this was before everyone copying the Altima and Maxima (rear side window treatemtns). If we could just get away from those fugly SUV and Crossover monstrosities but people buy them like hotcakes so that is wishful thinking.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 109, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 106):
No the dark ages were definitely the 90s and early 2000s. Things are actually much much better now.

Power to weight ratio, you are correct.
I don't like the blob shape cars of that era but I don't like the offensive designs coming out today either.



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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 110, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 107):
Great, now we know that you like to put your ass up in the air when passing gas!

OK, you found me out! I confess to everything  



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 111, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

I forgot to add two more fuglies for 2012: Both are what else Sport Utes / crossovers:

The Buick Enclave has a rear end that makes Jessica Simpson's wide load preggers butt look decent and that's saying a lot! That funny looking rear window with the bump in it's bottom center is weird.

The Jeep Compass. Not too bad looking until you get to that distorted small inverted rear side window. this is another styling trend that can't go away fast enough. Amazingly for a Sport Ute the Grand Cherokee isn't bad looking. One of the least objectionable of the SUV's.



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 112, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4333 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 111):
The Jeep Compass. Not too bad looking until you get to that distorted small inverted rear side window. this is another styling trend that can't go away fast enough.

Jeep at least had the sense to offer a more conventionally-styled model called the Patriot. It's the same exact size and everything else as the Compass and is sold alongside it.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10930 posts, RR: 37
Reply 113, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4336 times:



Ferrari 2012

  



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 114, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 112):
Jeep at least had the sense to offer a more conventionally-styled model called the Patriot. It's the same exact size and everything else as the Compass and is sold alongside it.

The Compass seems to be catching on with the "hood set." An alternative to the fugly Kia Soul and their rapping hamsters. The Patriot is better looking. I hope they deep six the fugly Compass.

And while on ugly cars. Does Nissan and Infiniti still make that hideous looking 4 door Xtera thing with that inverted rear side window that harks back to the plumper 1959 Rambler Station Wagon? While on Nissan/Infiniti, that other big ass luxury SUV the XT or whatever it's called with that bloated body and rear end treatment that looks like an obese cat squatting to drop some "ploppies?"



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 115, posted (2 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 114):
The Compass seems to be catching on with the "hood set." An alternative to the fugly Kia Soul and their rapping hamsters. The Patriot is better looking. I hope they deep six the fugly Compass.

My understanding is that BOTH the Compass and Patriot (which share the outgoing-Dodge Caliber platform) will be replaced with one model within the next year or two.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 114):
Does Nissan and Infiniti still make that hideous looking 4 door Xtera thing with that inverted rear side window that harks back to the plumper 1959 Rambler Station Wagon?

According to their website, the Xterra is still available for 2012.



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User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2474 posts, RR: 9
Reply 116, posted (2 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 81):
the AMC Gremlin and Pacer which was one of the worst cars of all time.

Maybe you meant "worst looking". Neither were great cars but they were solid and fairly dependable if you avoided the first 2 model years of each. I admit my 1st year Pacer had a few issues but my 3rd year Gremlin was QUITE dependable.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 96):
Quoting AvObserver (Reply 95):
I don't think of my Prius as ugly, just relentlessly bland. Actually, it would have a lot more personality were it truly ugly.

Why does the "restyled" Prius look almost identical to the prior generation? It's old in the tooth and the rear window is distorted looking too small like an after thought.

True the Gen 3 Prius wasn't a big leap from Gen 2, it's more a tweaked Gen 2. Prius sales have been steadily increasing so Toyota chose to play it safe (as they so often do with most models) and not mess too much with a successful model. I doubt most Prius drivers bought it for the styling, anyway; I didn't. I'd been looking at the Ford Fusion/Lincoln MKZ and Hyundai Sonata Hybrids which are both far prettier and from reports I've read, better to drive. Despite that, I ended up with a Prius because it got 10 mpg average more than those two and had a hatchback and folding rear seat; the other two had fixed rear seats and trunks. Also, I didn't need the latter's extra size and weight.


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15833 posts, RR: 27
Reply 117, posted (2 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 116):
Maybe you meant "worst looking".

They're that too. As far as quality and desirability goes they are somewhere between "bad" and "Yugo." At least we never bombed the AMC factory.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 118, posted (2 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 116):
I admit my 1st year Pacer had a few issues but my 3rd year Gremlin was QUITE dependable.



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 119, posted (2 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
Mercedes has a long history of making off-road vehicles that dates back over 50 years, and the M follows that tradition.
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
M-Class is a fully capable, real SUV

Indeed, a real SUV for all those soccer moms and pimps who never take it off the paved road anyway. Unlike the G-Klasse, ML is not a real off-road vehicle as it lacks a reduction gearbox and is a unibody.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 120, posted (2 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 3977 times:

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 119):
Indeed, a real SUV for all those soccer moms and pimps who never take it off the paved road anyway.

        
Most pimps I know that drive Mercedes go for the S-class coupe AMG series.
I never liked, nor understood the appeal of a Mercedes shaped like a tennis shoe.   



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User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2474 posts, RR: 9
Reply 121, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 117):
Quoting AvObserver (Reply 116):
Maybe you meant "worst looking".

They're that too. As far as quality and desirability goes they are somewhere between "bad" and "Yugo." At least we never bombed the AMC factory.

Not true, for the most part. If you're talking about NOW, sure, the newest AMC cars are over 23 years old but for their time, they were better than most other Detroit cars because they weren't changed nearly as often. This was especially true after they were among the 1st car makers to have standard Ziebart rust-proofing.


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 122, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 89):
All Lincolns. The deranged "baleen mouth" makes these cars honestly look like sperm whales.

Agreed in spirit, but sperm whales have teeth and not baleen in their mouths. A good example of a "baleen whale" is the Right Whale-
Quoting N243NW (Reply 89):
Almost all Chryslers. The new face of the 200 and 300 is fugly, and the styling and advertising of these cars cater to wannabe mobsters/mafia.

I thought that was the market Chrysler was trying to tap.

Quoting N243NW (Reply 89):
Most Toyotas. I'm not sure why they feel the need to copy Honda's front-end styling for the Camry involving a big chrome strip across the grille and a stupid buck-tooth emblem hanging down in the middle.

Toyota has a long, rich history of building cars that narrowly avoid being attractive. On the other hand,, if I was teaching a course on automotive styling that focused on how one or two misplaced curves, angles, or lines could ruin the look of an entire automobile, then Toyota would provide most of my examples.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 104):
For God's sake Toyota wake up and revive the Celica and get some stylists who know more than funny ugly and vanilla sleepy time design.

If Toyota isn't actively head-hunting whatever stylist or team of stylists that's responsible for the most recent Kias, then they are fools.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 123, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 94):


Most if not new all hatchback cars are outright ugly to me.
Quoting N243NW (Reply 97):
The "styling" and the name of the Veloster are also incredibly ironic, since it's slow as molasses. 0-60 in 9.8 seconds (for the automatic, I assume), according to cars.com.

That horrid 4 door fugly thing reminds me of:

Datsun F 10
And regarding Nissan I always get the Xterra and Pathfinder mixed up.


I hate that rear side inverted window on the fugly Nissan Pathfinder!
reminds me of:


2 examples of the fugly funny looking 1959 Rambler Cross Country Hippo



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User currently offlinephotoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 456 posts, RR: 20
Reply 124, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3539 times:
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HEAD SUPPORT

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):
I still can't get used to this one, especially seeing it head-on:

KILL IT! before it legs eggs!

I can't get used to that car either, it looks so stupid and... stupid  



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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 125, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 123):
That horrid 4 door fugly thing reminds me of:

  

Ah, yes - the atomic cockroach.... better known at the Datsun F-10 (the F was for fugly). A friend in college had a metallic brown F-10, thus the nickname.



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