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Are Any Conservatives Exited About Mitt Romney?  
User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8815 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney is just plain bland by a lot of people including much of the right wing. He cannot generate excitement and he has little charisma. On the other hand, Rick Santorum generates excitement and has a strong charisma but his social and cultural views are extreme by most people and though he believes his contrasting views will make him more competitive with Obama he is less popular with the voting public than Mitt Romney according to most polls. Though Obama is a weak candidate, Romney looks like he is going to be a weaker candidate with all the explaining that he will have to do with the majority activist wing with of the GOP.


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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Exited? I'd be EXCITED if Mittens EXITED the presidential race.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26168 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

He seem rather bland to me, and meek especially in his social views for my taste.

However I'd happily take President Romney with strong business and economic acumen over another 4 years under the great socialist Obama.

[Edited 2012-03-19 17:58:58]


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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
He seem rather bland to me, and meek especially in his social views for my taste.

Oh, so you prefer a fascist like Santorum?

It's pretty rare I go that far for major U.S. politicians. But that bastard is bonafide. Capital F, Fascist.

How sadly ironic that the person using "socialism" to apparently invoke complaints of an extreme nature of the policies or location of Obama on the political spectrum in one breath, is calling the only major R challenger who is not completely off the deep end too "bland" and "meek" for him. Captain Murdoch was right, irony can be pretty ironic sometimes. And Santorum will always make Barack Obama look like Thomas Jefferson.

[Edited 2012-03-19 18:41:53]


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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8977 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 3):
It's pretty rare I go that far for major U.S. politicians. But that bastard is bonafide. Capital F, Fascist.

If he gets the nomination for whatever reason, I hope Obama defeats him 99%-1%. He deserves to be publicly shamed.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17827 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney is just plain bland by a lot of people including much of the right wing. [/quote]
Well it's either Romney, or Obama, because Santorum is totally unelectable, and no one has heard from Gingrich in weeks.



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User currently offlinetexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

I am excited about him, believe it or not. But then again, I am a moderate Republican who is fiscally conservative. I am in no way a religious conservative.

It is a shame that such a hard working, competent, genial man is being treated to such a hard slog to get to the nomination. Sure, he isn't cool or witty or hip to modern music or other cultural things.

What Romney offers is a steady hand that is disciplined to work hard, look at every issue with an executive's bottom line, and not antagonize people with his cultural rhetoric.

In a fair world, he would have already won the Republican nomination by acclimation, and would easily win by a landslide over Obama.

On the other hand, it is not a fair world. Santorum is widely popular with the backward, resentful, rural voter, and still could pull the upset.

Furthermore, in a fair world, even Democrats would see that Obama's policies have not worked, will not work, and the man is an empty suit that galvanized a nation simply on high rhetoric and a chance to make racial history. Even devotees have soured on this man.

Having said that, I expect Obama to win easily. His supporters are canine in their affection for him. His media supporters would walk on hot coals to write great articles for him and spread his gospel on TV. The demography of the US is definitely on the democrat's side.

If this was 1988, Romney, like Bush senior, would win. However, it is now 2012. Decades of illegal immigration, legal immigration, and a general left shift amongst the young and college-educated, have changed the electorate markedly. Read Ruy Texeira's books for more on the emerging democratic majority and how it's here to stay.

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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 4):
If he gets the nomination for whatever reason, I hope Obama defeats him 99%-1%. He deserves to be publicly shamed.

Puerto Rico showed everyone how it should be done.

Any Santorum supporter to invoke the usual suspects of 'freedom', 'liberty', 'small government' and "constitutionalism" is complete reprehensible scum in my book. At least be honest with everyone else about your blatant hypocrisy.


Ah, but such is life amongst the conservative 'base' of the party. How truly embarrassing it is becoming to coexist with you for any true lover of freedom and liberty.


Politics are very complicated and convoluted, and peoples opinions and votes are shaped in many different ways. I have been receptive in the past to certain Republicans and positions, and typically had quite tempered and mixed opinions on GWB, etc. There is a time, however, when someone makes it necessary for a clear line to be drawn in the sand. The candidate is Rick Santorum. The time is right now.



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6678 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1894 times:
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Quoting texdravid (Reply 6):
Decades of illegal immigration, legal immigration, and a general left shift amongst the young and college-educated, have changed the electorate markedly.

The funny thing is that these "changes" occurred during the 8 years of a Republican President. Surprising huh?

Quoting texdravid (Reply 6):
On the other hand, it is not a fair world. Santorum is widely popular with the backward, resentful, rural voter, and still could pull the upset.

While Mittens goes our of his way to pander to this group. I would had more respect for him if he embraced his middle of the road thinking.



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User currently offlineFingerLakerAv8r From United States of America, joined May 2011, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 1):
I'd be EXCITED if Mittens EXITED the presidential race.

Yup.

In a nutshell I am about as excited as a cow about to get hit with the pneumatic hammer.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17827 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 8):
While Mittens goes our of his way to pander to this group. I would had more respect for him if he embraced his middle of the road thinking.

He can't in the primaries; that's the whole point of the primaries.



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 8):

While Mittens goes our of his way to pander to this group. I would had more respect for him if he embraced his middle of the road thinking.

Unfortunately, that is an impossibility for him right now. It's the disgusting truth. It'd be political suicide.


Perhaps the most disappointing facet of this "surge of Santorum", is that in large part, its been predicated on a concrete fact: people haven't been voting.

Well not exactly true, some places they have, some places they haven't. Of course the south is rabid to do it. But i'm talking about places like the midwest which Santorum has been winning. Compare Minnesota to Alabama. Minnesota slightly larger. Obviously Alabama much more conservative, but still- look at these numbers. Apprx 600,000 people voted in the Alabama primary. Less than 50,000 Minnesotans voted in the OPEN primary.

I don't know what that is, extreme apathy, dissatisfaction with all the candidates, willingness to just vote for whoever gets the nomination- whatever, that is now a buffoon like Santorum started this all.



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User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2478 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 8):
Quoting texdravid (Reply 6):
Decades of illegal immigration, legal immigration, and a general left shift amongst the young and college-educated, have changed the electorate markedly.

The funny thing is that these "changes" occurred during the 8 years of a Republican President. Surprising huh?

No, mt99, these changes occurred over decades, not just under Bush. You weren't paying much attention to texdravids words, which, by the way, I heartily agree with. And while Mitt doesn't excite me, I'd happily take his blandness over another 4 years of the charlatan named Barack Obama who has contradicted his own words numerous times over his term thusfar and allies himself with the illegals who are relentlessly invading our nation instead of its rightful citizens. Piling debt on top of debt and driving energy prices skyward with Draconian EPA mandates and needless restrictions on domestic oil and gas drilling on federal lands and offshore aren't my idea of progress, either. But texdravid is likely correct that despite his shameful and often insipid demagoguery of the issues, Obama could well prevail, given demographic shifts and the insidious liberal indoctrination of our youth, thanks to the Leftists who educate the kids in public schools and universities.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26168 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 3):
Oh, so you prefer a fascist like Santorum?

It's pretty rare I go that far for major U.S. politicians. But that bastard is bonafide. Capital F, Fascist.

How sadly ironic that the person using "socialism" to apparently invoke complaints of an extreme nature of the policies or location of Obama on the political spectrum in one breath, is calling the only major R challenger who is not completely off the deep end too "bland" and "meek" for him. Captain Murdoch was right, irony can be pretty ironic sometimes. And Santorum will always make Barack Obama look like Thomas Jefferson.

   

Who says I support Santorum? The thread was about Romney.

Personally for me the social platform is just as important as the economic and foreign affairs one. Romney is simply too weak for me on his social stands, while I understand Santorum and Newt are not electable. If I had a choice, I'd prefer someone like McCain again if age and history was not an issue.



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Fair enough. Seemed like a logical deduction at the time, but admittedly some sort of assumption. Out of curiosity, what particularly do you find him weak on?

The strange thing to me, is most would argue that Romney ran more right of McCain in 2008, so i'm constantly confused how these reputations seem to evolve over time.

[Edited 2012-03-19 19:46:05]


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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6678 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1843 times:
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Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
He can't in the primaries; that's the whole point of the primaries.
Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 11):
Unfortunately, that is an impossibility for him right now. It's the disgusting truth. It'd be political suicide.

Oh i know.. so he lies now, so he can back track later. Again, i would be more impressed with him if he wouldn't do that.
But I agree, its all about the politics.

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 12):
No, mt99, these changes occurred over decades, not just under Bush.

But Bush didn't put a stop to them didn't he? Besides this "youth" vote you fear, was brought up during the 8 years of GWB. They grew up with a Republican President.

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 12):
Obama could well prevail, given demographic shifts and the insidious liberal indoctrination of our youth, thanks to the Leftists who educate the kids in public schools and universities.

Again - the "youth" grew up under Bush and under No Child Left Behind and not under Obama...

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 12):
Leftists who educate the kids in public schools and universities.

So Santorum has it right? College is a Liberal conspiracy.



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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 12):
charlatan named Barack Obama

Not only is BHO a Muslim, communist, fascist he is a charlatan too.

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 12):
that despite his shameful and often insipid demagoguery of the issues, Obama could well prevail, given demographic shifts and the insidious liberal indoctrination of our youth, thanks to the Leftists who educate the kids in public schools and universities.

So what, so you can declare war on women's health, gays, workers, the environment, education, suppress voting and let a so called so called neighborhood watchman shot a black kid for no reason in Florida and get away with it, hell no.

These kinds of comments should be the best reason to vote for Obama at least just to give an FU to all the right wing conspiracy theorist.

These people have their self to thank when Obama gets elected, another reason not to vote Republican from a former Republican like myself.

[Edited 2012-03-19 19:58:24]

[Edited 2012-03-19 20:01:18]

[Edited 2012-03-19 20:03:45]


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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

Quoting texdravid (Reply 6):
What Romney offers is a steady hand that is disciplined to work hard, look at every issue with an executive's bottom line, and not antagonize people with his cultural rhetoric.

I agree with everything you have said about him but what will hurt him is "The executive bottom line". Through the primaries Replublicans have been attacking him and Bain Capital and if they are then the democrats are going to do it 10 times more.

He has to convince at minimum the centre that he has their interests in hand and he can barely convince the GOP base, his gaffes about his wife owning a couple of Cadillacs and him knowing only NASCAR and NFL owners also hurt him.

However if he wins and governs the nation like he did Massachusetts and not be loyal to the tea-party and the GOP base he probably can be a very good president.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5):
Well it's either Romney, or Obama, because Santorum is totally unelectable, and no one has heard from Gingrich in weeks.

Maybe to you and I but he polls well against Obama in the swing states and there could be the possibility of him winning the EC (the the election) but Obama winning the popular vote by several million. Although I reckon he has lost the vote of all sex loving women which is about half the electorate.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
He can't in the primaries; that's the whole point of the primaries.

You might get a brokered convention which as a non-American I want to see because this reality show will get that much better.



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 15):

So Santorum has it right? College is a Liberal conspiracy.

True, the much more unbiased and virtuous way to get an education is in the kitchen with Karen Santorum.

There was so much hoopla about Obama or his wife 'hating' America and all that. I don't know how it could be argued that Rick Santorum looks at present day America and the vast majority of present day American's with great scorn and disgust, and sees himself as a savior.


I just saw this headline tonight:

"ROCKFORD, Ill.—Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum says the issue in the presidential race is not the economy but an oppressive government that's taking away people's freedom."

How could anyone possibly believe this crap and actually vote for this man. I can't even describe the amount of extreme irony and hypocrisy in that sentence.

Someone defend him, I dare you.

[Edited 2012-03-19 20:02:43]


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User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2478 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

You're right about one thing, mt99. Bush also was one bad apple. He shamelessly pandered to the illegals as much as Obama while in office. But the liberal pervasion of the public education is no myth and it's no coincidence that the majority of NEA members are Democrats and that the Association broadly supports Obama's policies. And while Santorum is a truly unelectable candidate, he's got that right. There's good reason to fear the youth vote if the youth have been getting their thinking patterns from only one basic political viewpoint. Their embrace of the decidely Leftist Occupy Movement shows the extent of the liberal stranglehold on education; it's something all reasonable Americans should be greatly concerned about.

User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1803 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 4):
If he gets the nomination for whatever reason, I hope Obama defeats him 99%-1%. He deserves to be publicly shamed.

I hope that happens also, because when it does, we, the people of Pennsylvania, will never have to hear from this scumbag again. He did absolutely nothing in the House or Senate, then acts like he defends the people.



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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Often the Democrats have been associated with "falling in love" with a candidate rather than "falling in line" like the Republicans have been doing. I remember when Hillary and Obama where campaigning and things where competitive between the two but in the end Hillary threw her endorsement behind Obama and she did it in an orderly fashion even if many of her supporters have threatened to and in many cases have voted for McCain. What I see today is a malaise between the moderate "in today's terms" Mitt Romney and the culturally conservative Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Mitt and Rick want Newt to leave but he won't and Rick is staying in though he is trailing bad behind Romney and the former governor probably won't hit the number to click in the nomination before the convention. I think the convention will be brokered giving Romney little time to campaign on his own as the official nominee. Like him or not he has a hard road ahead and I don't think Newt or even Santorum will enthusiastically back Romney and in Newts case probably not openly at all.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20358 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

I wonder if Romney is excited about Romney...

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 18):
I don't know how it could be argued that Rick Santorum looks at present day America and the vast majority of present day American's with great scorn and disgust, and sees himself as a savior.

Do you mean you DO know how? Because that's about the best wording I've read in a while.


User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 22):

Do you mean you DO know how? Because that's about the best wording I've read in a while.

Ah, yeah, poor wording on my part. I meant to say that I don't know how anyone can argue that he DOESN'T look at America with contempt.



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 12):
Piling debt on top of debt and driving energy prices skyward with Draconian EPA mandates and needless restrictions on domestic oil and gas drilling on federal lands and offshore aren't my idea of progress, either

A few points.

- The reason for the current price hike in oil right now is mostly (approx. 64%) speculation and domestic production is at an all time high with the US importing less oil then the Bush admin.

- A lot of the drilling and the ANWR, the gulf and the Alberta tar sands are very expensive to extract and are only profitable when oil is high. If gas went down to what Gingrich proposes ($2.50 a gallon) none of these sources are profitable and won't be extracted.

- Also conservatives in 2008 when oil was high simply said "You can't blame the president for it". Now the tune has changed like it's all Obama's fault. Remember Bush has 6 years of total congressional control to do whatever he pleased and could have started domestic production that would be yielding good production but in 2002 gas costed peanuts back then and there was no need to have a long term investment in domestic reserves.



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25 Pyrex : I think the last 4 years are proof enough that voting for someone just because they are somehow cool, or hip, or charismatic, or good at reading from
26 jpetekyxmd80 : Normally there is a lot of blame and scapegoating that goes around when we don't like what is happening in politics. Either its a politicians own gree
27 Aesma : Yeah you have the consequences of having only two political parties. In France the Tea Party would really be another party (the National Front) and no
28 2707200X : I guess you don't want Rick Santorum as the GOP candidate. In this case it was about the use of contraceptives on a non contraception case. Darrell I
29 jpetekyxmd80 : The GOP now reminds me of the end of Pulp Fiction. Romney is the weak and Santorum the tyranny of evil men, but he's trying real hard to be the shephe
30 Post contains images Rara : You'll shed another when you realize that for many people, his election actually restored a good bit of that greatness. I don't expect you to care, b
31 Pyrex : Come on, stop pretending Sandra Fluke was just some random woman talking about her friend. She is a radical left-wing activist, and has always been,
32 mt99 : The vast majority are married women who do not want to become pregnant. So you are European living in the US? Does that make you special or give you
33 casinterest : Ahhh, but are you ready to pay the taxes for more schools, more infrastructure ,parks, and even welfare for those kids? It is easy to make sense of w
34 Rara : I've lived in America, Europe and Asia for longer periods of time and I can confirm that your assessment is totally wrong. Of course Europeans aren't
35 seb146 : Like the long-term hetrosexual couples who know they can not afford to raise children right now, but can not afford health care either? Why is it whe
36 MaverickM11 : Forget any of that, it's a war on common sense. "Paying" for contraception yields returns like no other--fewer abortions, lower crime, less welfare,
37 2707200X : Why, because she did not make an apperance on FOX News but went on CNN and MSNBC. You obviously don't have a good retort, Pyrex. It is right wingers
38 DocLightning : Catastrophe? I haven't noticed any catastrophies since the inauguration. Just before the inauguration there were a number of them. Oh no no no no. Se
39 aa757first : I'll vote for Mitt because I think he'll be far better than Obama. If he had stuck to the principles he espoused as governor, maybe I'd be a little mo
40 mt99 : So how do you know that he will be better than Obama?
41 Flighty : As a centrist Romney can win my vote based on his national loyalty. Is he loyal to the USA or to Israel? If the answer is USA, he gets my vote. He can
42 aa757first : Sorry, I meant on social issues.
43 zippyjet : Note to conservatives, Romney has those Reagan characteristics you should love: 1. Phony factor 2. Art of BS taken to new highs 3. Ties with the GOP e
44 Post contains images oldeuropean : As long as he feels that "the trees are the right height", the Republicans have to live (and later lose) with him and the rest of the world, who is af
45 Post contains images StarAC17 : Well if he did that he would basically be the same as Obama on many issues. Remember Obamacare is basically a copy of what Romney put into place as g
46 Post contains links oldeuropean : Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bxch-yi14BE
47 TOMMY767 : Excited about Romney? No. Is he a better candidate than W Bush or Obama? Yes. Easily. Yeah you can thank the librun media for showing how hip and cool
48 mt99 : I think that they old enough: 1-Someone turning 18 this year would have spent years 10-14 under Bush (middle school?) - Obama High school 2-Someone t
49 Revelation : Romney avoids discussion of cultural issues because he is so out of touch with mainstream American culture. Credibility => 0. I was publicly educa
50 seb146 : Let's not forget that some people were tired of an old white guy running things. Romney is more out of touch than McCain ever was. I think President
51 2707200X : That was meant to be facetious, not a statement of fact. I made that statement to mock the absurdness of AvObserver's annotate that Obama is a charla
52 Post contains links ozglobal : Romney receives (not earns) obscene amounts off his Bain capital nest egg and represents all that holds the disappearing US middle class down. But, as
53 Revelation : Sorry, my bad! As someone who grew up in the middle class, I too am truly concerned that the middle class is disappearing. I'd never vote for someone
54 Post contains links mt99 : And here is proof: "Eric Fehrnstrom, Romney's senior campaign adviser, was asked in a CNN interview Wednesday morning whether the former Massachusett
55 casinterest : So this is kind of like a big admission of ..."we will lie to the voters to get nominated and elected " . I know that this is politics, but this can'
56 DocLightning : Politics aside, this is one of the most embarrassingly mismanaged campaigns I've ever seen. When SANTORUM is your major competitor and he's actually
57 Post contains images StarAC17 : I bet those college republicans also had a lost of sex as well and not just for pro-creation . Heck Ann Coulter was in college the same time as you a
58 flymia : Except one is at a National level and one at the state. I always liked Romney, I think he is a pretty good candidate. But exactly, anyone but Obama.
59 FlyPNS1 : Indeed. If Romney is such a great manager, he should have had no problem dispatching of Santorum. The fact that he can't speaks volumes to Romney's a
60 Post contains links seb146 : A list of 50 things he did: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/mag...s_top_50_accomplishments035755.php And Romney?
61 Revelation : The GOP and the TP have whipped themselves into such a lather around trying to beat Obama that a few lies won't matter to them, despite their self-cl
62 flymia : Democrats eat that stuff up. Everything is political move. You actually think this means Obama is "in touch" with mainstream society? Because he has
63 Post contains links Revelation : That he invited two people to the White House to discuss racism over a few beers shows me he's a lot more in touch with mainstream society than Mitt
64 flymia : That's what I am. Anyway, all I am saying is all these president wants to be normal are just political moves. They are all rich powerful guys with th
65 mt99 : Are you a fan of the Government pouring money into Coal, Gas, Nuclear etc?
66 zckls04 : Indeed- their hero was an actor. Their most hated president ever (Obama aside) was a peanut farmer! Actually I think there probably would be. There w
67 Revelation : I appreciate your well considered and respectful comments. Agreed. What I was trying to say was more along the idea of would there be an army in A'st
68 texdravid : Every time I see these political arguments between left and right, I laugh nowadays. I used to get so worked up about 5-6 years ago on these boards, m
69 Post contains images flymia : No I am not. With the slight exception of Nuclear given how I think that is by far the best way to power our country. Nuclear power has such a high s
70 zippyjet : Wow! when I'm in one of my pessimistic benders I have to agree with you. I am still an optimist at heart and hope what you say and a lot of times how
71 jcs17 : I consider myself a conservative on most issues, a moderate on a few. I was Herman Cain supporter (that was a tough bumper sticker to peel off) who su
72 StarAC17 : Energy independence through oil production is a great idea but the biggest issue is right now with high oil prices it is profitable. If you want Ging
73 TOMMY767 : Depends. Many jobs like the one you mentioned is temporary government related.
74 seb146 : And it would involve Congress enacting laws against price fixing and speculating as well as the ability of the United States to be able to control oi
75 Post contains images windy95 : Funny how no conservatives showed up on this thread. Since it was targeted at them there should only be a few posts on here.
76 casinterest : Shows a pretty general lack of excitement.
77 flymia : I am really not a fan of how big social issues are in the race for president. This is not the primary job of the president. The only people who may c
78 windy95 : You would be correct.
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Daniel Tavares = Mitt Romney's Willie Horton? posted Tue Dec 4 2007 14:13:10 by PHLBOS
Are Any Of You Here Step-parents? posted Sun Mar 27 2005 07:34:19 by ConcordeBoy
Are Any Of You Police? posted Wed Dec 8 2004 04:45:44 by ConcordeBoy
Are Any Moderates Running? posted Wed Oct 27 2004 17:03:34 by Air2gxs
Any One Know About Labour Markets For Sociology? posted Sun Oct 10 2004 17:17:23 by Imonti
Are Any Of You Going To The Olympics? posted Sat Jul 3 2004 00:30:43 by ArmitageShanks
Why Are American So Clueless About Geography? posted Tue May 6 2003 03:06:50 by Neo
Any Conservatives Against War/liberals For? posted Fri Mar 28 2003 14:19:56 by Boeing757/767
Are There Any Bell Ringers Out There? posted Sun May 2 2010 02:44:02 by MasterBean