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User currently offlineflyawa From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 201 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

What aircraft was used by the President's 13-year old daughter and entourage of 25 secret service agents?


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

Like mother like daughter. But she may have flown commerical as 12 school mates also went. But if she went by 89th aircraft, it could have been a C-40C. She won't get Mommy's airplane. Her fellow students, and any shaparones would have had to pay commerical 1st class ticket rates.

User currently offlineflyawa From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Quien.com reports she flew commercial on Friday 16MAR. It also has photos of the 1st daughter and her classmates. It says they are staying at the Camino Real Hotel, and visiting area olmec ruins and artisan villages.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

She better of flown commerical.....I am sick and tired of paying for Michelles and her kids vacations!


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User currently offlineliftsifter From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):

I'm sure you were glad to pay for the Bush's golf trips though!



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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

Quoting liftsifter (Reply 4):
I'm sure you were glad to pay for the Bush's golf trips though!

Or his seemingly biweekly trips to his Texas ranch.


User currently onlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6467 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1602 times:
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Question: Is the US Secret Service a Law Enforcement Agency proper?

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
I am sick and tired of paying for Michelles and her kids vacations!

Harsh reality is that you will be paying for First Families for the rest of your life. And you'll be paying for ex-Presidents as well.

While you may want to totally isolate kids in the White House (regardless of Party) most people prefer to see some normalcy for these kids.

No big deal for the Secret Service coverage. They are long term employees who get paid no matter where they are working.

Considering how may nuts we have in this country and how easy it is for them to get a gun I believe it is worth spending the money to provide protection for the President and Vice-President AND their families. Otherwise we simply encourage the nuts (like the one who went after Reagan) and the terrorists.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14130 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
She better of flown commerical.....I am sick and tired of paying for Michelles and her kids vacations!

The travel arrangements will most likely be dictated by the secret service.

Jan


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
I am sick and tired of paying for Michelles and her kids vacations!

It's just part of the deal and is the same regardless of politics. Besides, the President is the most powerful executive in the world and makes only $400,000 per year. Granted they all make a killing when they leave office, but they are still very underpaid.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 6):
Question: Is the US Secret Service a Law Enforcement Agency proper?

Yes. Protection of the President, other government figures, and foreign dignitaries is just one relatively small tangent of their mission.



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User currently onlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6467 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1563 times:
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Thank you, BMI727, it´s always good to learn something new everyday.

User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4038 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 9):
Besides, the President is the most powerful executive in the world and makes only $400,000 per year

Money is not an issue. I am OK with someone desiring money, as that is perfectly natural - money is usually a by-product of production. What we should all be concerned about is people who seek power, as there is only ever one way to obtain it - violence. Most politicians fall in that later field.

People who seek power are way more dangerous than people who seek money.



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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 11):
What we should all be concerned about is people who seek power, as there is only ever one way to obtain it - violence.

Huh?


User currently offlinefridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1486 times:
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Quoting AR385 (Reply 6):
Question: Is the US Secret Service a Law Enforcement Agency proper?

A big part of the Secret Service, since they are part of the Treasury Dept, is that they go after currency counterfeiters.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 5):
Or his seemingly biweekly trips to his Texas ranch.


At least Texas was set up as a 2nd White House. He worked there. And he went to the same place often for vacation. Obama picks a new place every time. Much easier to send people to the same place again and again and even base people there.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 6):
Question: Is the US Secret Service a Law Enforcement Agency proper?


As you saw they certainly are. They originally dealt with just currency crime. Now besides for that and protecting the president VP etc.. they operate like any other Fed law enforcement agency. They have offices all over the country and world from DC to London to Billings Montana.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 7):
While you may want to totally isolate kids in the White House (regardless of Party) most people prefer to see some normalcy for these kids.


Is this trip a school trip? I am a bit confused on what kind of trip this is. That being said there was a short article in the NY Times stating that the daughter is fine after the earthquake in the region.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3311 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
She better of flown commerical.....I am sick and tired of paying for Michelles and her kids vacations!

Bottom line: AFO (or any other government airplane) is available for the president for whatever needs he or his family may have. It's part of the package as is Secret Service protection. And it's very unfair of you to expect the First Family to be locked up inside their mansion all year long. If you have a wife and leave her locked inside your house, that's your lifestyle.

What's next? Should we ask Mr. Obama to take the braces off Malia because it's too costly and she shouldn't have them in the first place?

And BTW, it's "better have flown", not "better of flown"...



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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
I am sick and tired of paying for Michelles and her kids vacations!

Guess what - as taxpayers we have to pay for things we don't want to. It happens to me and it happens to you. Unfortunately thats just life.  
Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 5):
Or his seemingly biweekly trips to his Texas ranch.

Lets be honest here, 90% of us airliners.netters would be flying Air Force One (or other aircraft at our disposal) daily, if we were president. So its probably a bit hypercritical of us to complain when the president or first family uses these such transport in a way that is perceived to be wasteful.     



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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3286 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15):
What's next? Should we ask Mr. Obama to take the braces off Malia because it's too costly and she shouldn't have them in the first place?

Ah, the traditional lack of American political civility rears its ugly head again here - Obama is the duly elected President of the United States and can do ALL THE THINGS that any previous modern President of the United States can do! Eleanor Roosevelt spent a great deal of time flying all over the world, and like Michelle Obama, supported military families. Jackie Kennedy was a huge hit with the French people at a time when relations between the US and France were stressful. The Republicans of the day hated both of those First Families, too.....   



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11496 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 17):
The Republicans of the day hated both of those First Families, too.....   

Perhaps because republicans prefer their women to be in the kitchen barefoot making them a sandwich? (In between their transvaginal sonogram sessions, of course.)

Yes, the Republican party loathes strong women that want to travel without their husbands.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 18):
Yes, the Republican party loathes strong women that want to travel without their husbands.

It's not Republicans. It's two misguided posters.



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4038 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 18):
Yes, the Republican party loathes strong women that want to travel without their husbands.

Good to know your definition of a "strong woman" is someone who basically takes advantage of some position of power her husband has to promote some pet cause nobody gives a crap about.



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User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8713 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1392 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
She better of flown commerical.....I am sick and tired of paying for Michelles and her kids vacations!

Are you going to defend yourself or are you going to hide afraid of the "left" here. When you go after the kids you know you cant win.

Republican, Democrat, people of high office like the presidency and their family are in need of security.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21800 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 20):
Good to know your definition of a "strong woman" is someone who basically takes advantage of some position of power her husband has to promote some pet cause nobody gives a crap about.

So if she goes out promoting stuff, she's just piggybacking off her husband. If she stays home and stays quiet, she's just being an accessory. I'm sensing a no-win situation here.

-Mir



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User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Umm wonder if Mexico will disarm the Secret Service agents who are assigned to Obama's daughter?..Like Mexico did to the ICE agents several years ago that got one of them killed.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20241 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 14):
At least Texas was set up as a 2nd White House. He worked there. And he went to the same place often for vacation. Obama picks a new place every time. Much easier to send people to the same place again and again and even base people there.

It does not matter where the President is. He is on duty 24/7. He never ets a "vacation." At any time, he could be called to duty.

Air Force One is a flying White House. It has every communication system that the WH has. It makes no difference if the President is in Tunisia or Madagascar. There is nothing he can't do from a remote location.


25 AR385 : They won´t. As they are not here on a Law Enforcement Capacity. If they were conducting such activities, they would be disarmed, as per our laws. No
26 Post contains images Superfly : Leave the children alone. I don't like Obama's policies but his children should be off limits. Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan all travelled wi
27 stratosphere : Yes I do...Thats one reason Obama will never get my vote is he should have sacked Eric Holder even before fast and furious but especially after it.
28 D L X : Sorry, your logic is lacking. Not even remotely close to what I said. Unless you think that Malia is in Oaxaca to promote a pet cause.
29 Post contains images LifelinerOne : Actually, since March 1st 2003, the Secret Service is part of the US Department of Homeland Security. Cheers!
30 einsteinboricua : Hey, if she's not benefiting from it personally, I don't see the problem. She's doing something she believes in...kinda like the previous president w
31 SW733 : All of the absolute CRAP that my tax dollars as a US citizen goes to...and I mean real, absolute, wasteful CRAP...this doesn't bother me in the sligh
32 Flighty : Exactly. Protecting these people is a normal US government function. Why is the media obsessed with calculating the cost... everything the US governm
33 flymia : No way the president would ever travel anywhere where the USSS Agents are not armed. They bring everything with them the cars, the guns everything da
34 Ken777 : And how much did converting it into a 2nd WH cost the taxpayers? Did he get some permanent upgrades (like a helichopter pad? Presidents can work ever
35 flymia : If its a school trip or something like that I have zero problems with it. Go ahead, learn be part of the schools trips etc.. I just hope/imagine woul
36 Post contains images aloges : (troll mode on) Then why did she go to Mexico instead of promoting an American vacation spot? (troll mode off) Anyway, I suppose some locations did b
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