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Any Doctors In The House? Gastrointestinal Issues  
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

Hey all, I was wondering if anybody here is a gastrointestinal expert (or know stuff about intestines)

I've been dealing with intestinal pain in the lower left half of my abdomen for the last 2 weeks, and I've seen my doc and am getting a CT scan tomorrow.... but do you guys have any idea on what I should do? It seems like when I spend copius amounts of time in a hot tub, the pain disappears....what do you all suggest? What do you all think it is?


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

LLQ pain in a child is constipation until proven otherwise. No idea how old you are or what other issues it could be, and frankly, not a discussion I'd have on a public thread.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
LLQ pain in a child is constipation until proven otherwise. No idea how old you are or what other issues it could be, and frankly, not a discussion I'd have on a public thread.

20, no other issues, just pain there. lol

I'm getting a CT scan tomorrow....but my blood work came back as negative for cancer....should I risk irradiating myself just for them to tell me again that it isn't cancer?



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

As I said, LLQ pain in a young patient is constipation until proven otherwise. People can have constipation even with supposed regular bowel movements.

That said, I have neither examined you nor taken a complete history, so I am in no position to comment on whether you should get a CT because I don't know what your doctor is thinking it is.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):
That said, I have neither examined you nor taken a complete history, so I am in no position to comment on whether you should get a CT because I don't know what your doctor is thinking it is.

He said that he's thinking it's just some sort of virus, but we'll see what the results say



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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):

He said that he's thinking it's just some sort of virus, but we'll see what the results say

Does the pain radiate towards your back or does it hurt with urination?...if it does, i would go with kidney stones. I could also give you a differential diagnosis of Diverticulitis.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 5):
Does the pain radiate towards your back or does it hurt with urination?...if it does, i would go with kidney stones. I could also give you a differential diagnosis of Diverticulitis.

Stones are usually excruciating. And diverticulitis would be very unlikely in a 20yo.


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6):

Stones are usually excruciating. And diverticulitis would be very unlikely in a 20yo.

right on both counts Doc, but he didnt give much of a description about his symptoms, so i thought i would just go ahead and ask.


User currently offlineba6590 From UK - England, joined Jul 2007, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2):
I'm getting a CT scan tomorrow....but my blood work came back as negative for cancer....should I risk irradiating myself just for them to tell me again that it isn't cancer?

There is no blood test that can completely rule out cancer. However your age makes it highly unlikely.

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
what do you all suggest? What do you all think it is?

I don't think anyone can give you all the answers without taking a full history, and performing a thorough examination.
But I agree with Doc, in your age group constipation is the likely cause. Although you have to keep in mind there are lots of other possible causes.

Best of luck with your scan, hope you get well soon.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5944 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
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Maybe your diet contains too much fiber and you should cut on that. Especially the one that also comes with cellulose. Like corn, pinto beans, lentils.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1878 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 9):

Maybe your diet contains too much fiber and you should cut on that. Especially the one that also comes with cellulose. Like corn, pinto beans, lentils.

I would venture that the opposite is true. Very few Americans are fiber-overloaded.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5944 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1834 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
I would venture that the opposite is true. Very few Americans are fiber-overloaded.

Oh. Well. It´s just that I had the same issue, although the pain was more in the centrer of my lower abdomen, and my gastroenterologist restricted my fiber intake and it went away. This after many, many studies. I´m talking major pain, though, hospital grade. Although it also had to do with stress. FIBER+STRESS, bad choice for me. I had to give up corn for good.



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User currently onlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Have fun with the CT - hope it helps ID the problem. It's far easier than a scope, or the preparation fora scope.

Most places you can get a digital copy of the scan, which might be a good idea as it can be a baseline scan for the future, wherever you may live. Those scans generally come with Windows software, but you can get a free application for a Mac - OsiriX. That even lets you browse through the various stuff inside.


User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 627 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

I know I'm going to drive the doctors here nuts with another "maybe it's what I had," but your doc checked and rechecked you for an inguinal hernia? I'm going to say, yes, because you're a 20 y/o male, they probably spent a lot of time with their fingers in your groin telling you to bear down, but it's worth mentioning. Mine presented as mild abdominal pain, but persistent enough that I went and got it diagnosed.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 12):
Have fun with the CT - hope it helps ID the problem. It's far easier than a scope, or the preparation fora scope.

Well the CT was a experience, I'll say -_-

Seems like it's nothing too serious, now they're trying to figure out what exactly it is. Thanks for the help guys



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User currently offlineflyingclrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6):
Stones are usually excruciating. And diverticulitis would be very unlikely in a 20yo.

My mom had it when she was 27 just a couple of months after my younger brother was born. It was discovered after surgeons removed her appendix which was perfectly normal and left a rather unsightly surgical scar (so I have been told). Apparently there is a tendency on my mom's side of the family to have diverticulitis.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

I do have the same symptoms as you at the moment, pains in the lower abdomen since 5 days, with fever at the beginning. Think its a virus, its getting slowly better though still hurts like needles. Normally though virusses like that do plague me only for 2 days maximum so Im a bit worried and will see the doctor tomorrow if it aint better.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6):
Stones are usually excruciating. And diverticulitis would be very unlikely in a 20yo.

I had a kidney stone when I was 31, likely due to too little drink in hot weather. The most awful pain I ever had, by far, I thought it was life-threatening as I didnt know what it was. It came fast, started with a kind of undefined stomach pain, and later moved downwards until getting really mad about 30 minutes later. I was in a car, on the countryside, on a sunday of cause. When I found I had no choice than to go to a hospital, I still had 30 kms to go to the next one I knew of. I think I never drove as mad as in these 20 minutes. I must have been a danger to others, but felt I had no choice as I thought I would fall unconscious from pains any minute and could have died in that remote countryside I was in.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

Quoting flyingclrs727 (Reply 15):

My mom had it when she was 27 just a couple of months after my younger brother was born.

I said "unlikely."

The first thing they teach you as a doctor is that "Common things are common. Uncommon things are uncommon." In other words, you should think of the common thing first before going hunting for rare things. Also worded as: "If you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras."


User currently offlineflyingclrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
I said "unlikely."

The first thing they teach you as a doctor is that "Common things are common.

The diverticulitis diagnosis wasn't made till after her doctors ruled out cancer after the removal of the healthy appendix.


User currently offlinehOMsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

Some number of years ago (when I was 22 or 23-ish), I had horrible abdominal pains. It started as flu-like symptoms for a few days (diarrhea, nausea, loss of apetite). I was talking to one of my classmates who said he'd felt similar symptoms for a little while, so I figured maybe it was just something going around. I felt that way for a few days, and...it just didn't go away. The first month of dealing with that, I probably ate less than I otherwise would in a typical week. There were some days I wouldn't eat at all.

I went to my regular doctor. He had no clue. Referred me to a gastroenterologist. The problem with the gastroenterologist is that it takes six weeks to get an appointment. But anyway, I did all the fun stuff (the x-ray where you drink that horrible barium liquid - I forget what it's called, endoscopy, colonoscopy, CT scan, not necessarily in that order). The doctor kept telling me "it looks like you have this" and would follow it up with "what are you talking about? I never said you had that." Diagnoses ranged from lactose intolerance (was never a problem before then, and I drank milk all the time; afterwards, I started having regular dairy products again once I decided that soy milk was just disgusting and I've had no problems), to celiac disease, to duodenitis, to acid reflux, to ulcers...all of which were later determined not to be the cause.

I tried changing my diet a bit, even moved out of the house and into my own apartment (was living at home while going to grad school), seeing if it was something in the house. Nothing really made it better. The symptoms would get better and worse (not going to go through all the gory details), but were still lingering, and I felt like crap.

The best treatment I could find was to take prescription-strength antacids, which would subdue the symptoms for a while, but then they came back, and the drugs became ineffective, so I'd stop (then wait a few weeks, then start over again).

It screwed up my life for 10 or 11 months until one day, the symptoms just vanished. I wasn't on any medication at the time the symptoms went away, so I have no idea what did it. But I just felt better, and that was it. It took me a while to get my diet back to normal (I still didn't eat all that much, but slowly started to eat more and more, and, as noted, slowly reintroduced dairy into my diet with no negative effects).

To this day, I never figured out what the problem was. Frankly, I don't care. It's gone now, and that's all that matters.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1429 times:

Quoting flyingclrs727 (Reply 18):
The diverticulitis diagnosis wasn't made till after her doctors ruled out cancer after the removal of the healthy appendix.

I've never understood why doctors go looking for tumors in young people. That should be on the BOTTOM of your list, not the top.


User currently offlineflyingclrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
I've never understood why doctors go looking for tumors in young people. That should be on the BOTTOM of your list, not the top.

I have no idea. It was in 1963/64. CAT scans didn't exist yet. The surgeons performed exploratory surgery and found the diverticulitis.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

Quoting flyingclrs727 (Reply 21):
I have no idea. It

I have some idea. You get so used to finding it in old people that you stop thinking that it's unlikely in a patient under 30. Not impossible, of course, but rare.

Also, cancer does not commonly present with pain (initially). It's usually another symptom, like blood in the stool, weight loss, sweats, fevers, etc.


User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1281 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Quoting hOMsar (Reply 19):

To this day, I never figured out what the problem was. Frankly, I don't care. It's gone now, and that's all that matters.

Too much hanging out with The Poopsmith, that's what...



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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):

I've never understood why doctors go looking for tumors in young people. That should be on the BOTTOM of your list, not the top.

But Doc arent more and more tumors these days being found in young people?


25 simonriat : Ok this thread got me started thinking. I am currently suffering with the flu, laying in bed, and feeling incredibly sorry for myself, but and maybe t
26 DocLightning : Not that I'm aware of. Possible, yes. Possible just yet, no.
27 GDB : I have had a degree of tension, mild pain when walking, in the lower abdomen, since yesterday. Some when reclined. Feels like a full bladder too. No p
28 caliatenza : or maybe i am still in my Indian medical training mindset...
29 PHX787 : JUST AN UPDATE: It was some sort of virus brought about from eating stale bacon. I'm fine now. No pains in 4 days.
30 2707200X : Glad you're alright.
31 SSTeve : "Maybe it's a tumor." "It's not a tumor!"
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