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User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Hi all,

I'll be attending a conference this October in Miami Beach, which runs Sunday 10/14 through mid-day Wednesday, 10/17.

I have the rest of the day Wednesday, and then taking two days of vacation on Thursday and Friday to explore Miami and south Florida. My flight home (nonstop MIA-SEA) on AA leaves at 8pm on Saturday night. I was last in Miami in June 1983, so it would be neat to see it again. I plan to rent a car after the conference ends.

I'm exploring a few ideas so far, but want to get some other ideas too, especially given what may or may not be practical for the time I have.

- Stay in Miami, see what there is to see
- Bahamas
- Key West
- Everglades
- Orlando
- Cape Canaveral area

My initial plan was to drive to Key West and explore the keys the entire time, but I'm noticing the hotels are pretty pricey, even in October. I'm open to other suggestions and ideas. I though it was possible to take a boat trip to Havana from KW, but apparently not. I think it would be neat if it were possible!

Thank you!
N174UA

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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
- Bahamas
- Key West
- Everglades
- Orlando
- Cape Canaveral area

"N" glad you asked! So much to see, do and experience so little time. The above destinations should be done in your lifetime. However all are at least three hours driving time! In addition if you are staying in Miami Beach I'd suggest not renting a car. Parking in Miami Beach can be pricey and daunting. Here are some ideas for you. Hope this helps. Based on your time frame. Here are some websites worth visiting.

http://www.miamibeach411.com/index.php Literally everything you'd want to need or know about Miami Beach.
http://www.miamisci.org/ Miami Science Museum and Planetarium. The Planetarium has some kick ass shows and is across the street from the Vizcaya/James Deering Estate.


http://lincolnroadmall.com/ Lincoln Road Mall
According to what you've posted your flight home to SEA isn't until 8:00 PM. And, virtually hotels boot you out by 12 noon. So I have the solution to this last day of your trip quandary. It's a bit kitschy, funky and could be cleaner but a day at the Nirvana Spa in the semi dumpy Dezerland hotel is the perfect solution for your last day. There is an entry fee but, you get a place to stash your stuff, work out, enjoy a day on the beach and have a place to shower and clean up before going to MIA. Also they have some great spa treatment stuff (additional $$) had one of the greatest therapeutic massages at Nirvana. Also they have a multitude of steam rooms and saunas and even an ice cold water plunge that the European tourists dive into. Also you'll see German and Russian Amazonian model types beating each other with pom pom looking things in the steam and sauna baths. (Platza).

http://www.nirvanaspamiamibeach.com/index.htm

Hope all this points you in the right direction. And heck, if you want to pay my way I'll be your personal tour guide and advisor. I can non rev on SWA Life to FLL or non-rev on US or one of the other majors to MIA!


And you can get to MIA on the very cheap! Check this link

http://www.miami-airport.com/pdfdoc/airport_flyer_brochure.pdf

[Edited 2012-04-01 23:43:34]


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7174 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
- Stay in Miami, see what there is to see
- Bahamas
- Key West
- Everglades
- Orlando
- Cape Canaveral area

I don't think two days is enough time for Orlando, Cape Canaveral or Key West. Key Largo is fairly close to Miami though you can easily drive there in an hour or so. I thnk the drive down to Key West is great but I would want more time. If you like nature, environmental stuff either the Everglades or Biscayne National park is a must. You will want to do The Everglades early so it is not too hot. In Biscayne National Park you will want to get on a snorkling boat and see the coral reef it is awesome.

At Watson Island there is a sea plane company which gives sea plane tours, the prices are not too bad last time I saw that might be something you may want to look into. If you have a car if you want a relaxing beach away from the bars and hotels you should check out Key Biscayne, only about 5 miles away from Downtown Miami. The Miami Zoo is fantastic, you have the Miami Seaquarium and also Parrot Jungle for seeing some cool animals. Of course you will see Miami Beach plenty whether you want to go to the beach there or have dinner and go to some bars at night. Miami Beach is fairly small in size so you will see plenty but for dinner/bars I suggest Lincoln Road and Hispanola Way are two streets to check out.

Also you will want to get some Cuban food, the usual place for that is Versailles in Little Havana, I also suggest getting a "Frita" it is pretty much a Cuban Hamburger at Rey de la Frita which is also in Little Havana.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 1):
Miami Science Museum and Planetarium. The Planetarium has some kick ass shows and is across the street from the Vizcaya/James Deering Estate.

Both are good suggestions, especially Vizcaya. Plenty of other ideas too, if you have any other questions feel free to ask.

Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
I was last in Miami in June 1983, so it would be neat to see it again.

You wont recognize the city.

Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
I'm open to other suggestions and ideas. I though it was possible to take a boat trip to Havana from KW, but apparently not. I

Yes certainly not legal. You could go to Cuba Illegally by catching a flight at NAS. But these days there are plenty of legal ways of getting into the island. There are many daily flights from MIA to many Cuban cities.



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User currently onlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3015 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1282 times:
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Scuba diving or snorkeling in Key Largo!

The drive down to Key West is very picturesque. Too bad that when we went there, the hotels were all full so we had to drive back up to Miami Beach. This was around new years.

Try to skip Downtown Miami. Nothing much to see there apart from office buildings, and everything seems to close down around 6PM.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7174 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 3):

Well Bayside Market place is not a bad spot, too tourist for locals but there are boat tours there and stuff. The Brickell area has become one of the nightlife hubs though. Geared more toward locals and people who love in the area. I will always suggest Miami Beach for a tourist staying in Miami for a few days. But downtown has some great places to eat and good nightlife and some good hotels. It's not the empty area after 6pm it used to be.



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

If you stay on the beach, check out this place:

http://www.churrosmanolo.com/

It's a bakery/diner. Great for breakfast, lunch and avoiding the overpriced places that abound in that stretch of beach.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7174 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 5):
It's a bakery/diner. Great for breakfast, lunch and avoiding the overpriced places that abound in that stretch of beach.

Another place I would reccomend is big pink for breakfast, brunch, late night whatever you want. Prices are not bad for its location and I find the brunch/breakfast stuff great there. Just do not eat a "Jerrys Famous Deli" food is not great and very very over-priced.



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User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

Wow! Thanks, everyone!

When I was last in Miami in 1983, we were stopping there for our cruise to the Bahamas, and then after, we drove up to Orlando to see Disney World, and spent a short amount of time in the Everglades. Never been to Key West. I'm not sure when I'll be in Florida again, so I want to make good use of my time.

I looked into the Bahamas, namely the Atlantis hotel. Expensive, as is everything around it, according to Trip Advisor. I'm pretty much ruling this out.

Cuba: Not intersted in breaking the law to get there. I thought things had loosened up enough for just a day trip, but not so I guess. It will be neat to see it one day, I'm sure Cuba will open up to general tourism within the next 5-10 years.

I need to be careful with funds, so maybe staying in Miami Beach on Weds. night at the hotel where I'll be might work, to reduce the cost of a rental car and pricey Key West hotel. Sounds like there's a lot to see just in that section of Miami - thanks, Zippyjet!

Key West - I would love to the drive down there, for bragging rights! Stopping at the Everglades in the morning would make sense.

Quoting flymia (Reply 2):
Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
I was last in Miami in June 1983, so it would be neat to see it again.

You wont recognize the city.

Last time I was in Miami was even before "Miami Vice" started in '84! LOL. One of my colleagues at work goes to Miami a lot, and she was telling me it's really changed over the past several years.

I'm excited for this "mini-trip" - I plan a lot of activities to take full advantage of the time I have, and I always have a great time, no matter what.

I really appreciate everyone's replies and advice!

N174UA


User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
My flight home (nonstop MIA-SEA) on AA leaves at 8pm on Saturday night. I

Allow yourself a LOT of time, and by a lot, assume your flight leaves at six. The Dolphin Expressway (which is how you would go from the Beach to the airport most likely, and it's also a toll road) and the Palmetto if you're going to head that way from the West and South are absolutely jammed heading out of town at that time of day, and they've been doing construction on it for a good while, so really it bottlenecks at any random time of day. Why on earth the widest expressway in South Florida is four lanes (and barely) is beyond me. If you get there early enough Concourse D is certainly big enough to explore for awhile, easily taking half an hour to go from one end to the other if you're not hustling.

Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
- Everglades

Doable, but you would most definitely need a car. Take Calle Ocho/8th Street alllllll the way out to the West, and there is a nature reserve, but be aware you will be driving through a good bit of nothing. There are a ton of alligators and both times I went a fifteen foot alligator was just lying across the road like it was nothing. http://www.nps.gov/ever/planyourvisit/svdirections.htm

Quoting N174UA (Thread starter):
Orlando
Too far for the time you have and be able to "enjoy" it. Plus, after Miami, Orlando will seem quite cheesy.
- Cape Canaveral area

Also a bit far.

As for the Keys, Key West is quite far, almost three hours down a two lane highway, and you most likely won't get past 45mph. I personally find Key West overrated and too touristy. Some people say they enjoy the scenery on the drive, I personally say you spend 90% of the time looking at concrete or cypress trees. There are two or three good spots, but they are bridges and you would have to be on the lookout for the turnoff points to stop and take pictures. If you do venture down that way eat at Mile Marker 88 grill. It's quite easy to find...just watch the Mile Markers. :P

Since you're planning to stay in the Beach I would definitely suggesting exploring the Lincoln Road area. The people watching is incomparable. Once I was almost bumped into by Dennis Rodman (and yes I have the picture to prove it!). There is a Hofbrau Haus there, where you can get excellent beer, as well as other upscale martini joints. It all depends on your thing. Collins Avenue has a lot of $$$$$$ shopping. Jerry's Diner on the Beach is very good, and pretty inexpensive. Definitely walk along Ocean Drive--walk, do not try to drive it as it will take twice as long to get there, and then forever to go through it--and enjoy all the Art Deco buildings. I would also suggest going to Coconut Grove and explore The Viscaya. There is tons of unique shopping and restaurants in Coral Gables (Merrick Park and The Magnificent Mile) and South Miami (Sunset Place at SW72nd Street and US1), although the rest of South Miami is a bit of a dump, and Kendall is mostly just there, so no real reason to go that far south. If you enjoy feeling completely inferior, take a drive through Pinecrest (a good turnoff point is around 67th Av going South on US1, take a left and just mosey until the road ends, or go through Coconut Grove, and drive through the back roads, which make zero sense) and look at the obscene houses retired couples and/or snowbirds have built for themselves. Same for Coral Gables. In downtown Coral Gables there is an amazing frozen yoghurt place called Coco Limon, I'd swear it's ice cream. There are also a dozen other restaurants and things to do in downtown Coral Gables. Meander between the Magnificent Mile (SW40th/Bird Road) and US1 in downtown Coral Gables, or on Coral Way. The roads are lined with trees and it's absolutely gorgeous. The Design District in Midtown also has a completely different vibe, if not a bit weird. There are tons of art galleries--though it being the middle of the week I have no idea if they'll be open--and consignment shops if all that's your thing, and you can pretty much find anything there, though some parts of it are a bit dodgy. Cafe Lemoni is a good little cafe, and their food is great.

Be aware there is a very good chance you will have to pay for parking just about anywhere you go that isn't a mall or strip mall, though some of them still charge for parking by the hour. Parking is a fun game in Miami, and there is never enough of it.


User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1215 times:

All of you have been very helpful!

So an update, based on what I've read with your help:

- I booked three nights at the Albion hotel in Miami Beach, close to the beach and everything else, it seems. Small room, great price for my budget.

- Orlando, Bahamas, Cape Canaveral...out for this trip.

- Between the estimated cost and the "hassle-factor" of a car and parking, and getting around in Miami - I've decided not to rent one.

- The Miami Beach 411 website that Zippyjet provided - there's a link to several reasonably priced tours for the city, Everglades, even Key West for a day. I will likely do several of these, for Thursday, Friday, and part of Saturday.

I'm really excited for this trip!!!

Thanks again, everyone!


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

N- 2 more eating suggestions. For Cuban food at a reasonable price check out "Las Vegas" on Collins Avenue catty corner from the Deauville. They are open till 10:00 PM. If other folks familiar with Miami/Miami Beach have a better Cuban place to eat please share. I've never been disappointed nor gone away hungry from Las Vegas. For a Jewish Deli, there's a relatively new place named "Pistachios." It's several blocks in from the beach on 41st. Street. I believe they are closed on the Jewish Sabbath which is Friday Night and Saturday. I've heard mixed reviews of Jerry's. It's open 24 hours and has plenty of great people watching. Personally I have an aversion to those fancy schmancy overpriced outdoor restaurants that proliferate on Ocean Drive and Lincoln Mall. They are the places where they have claymation models of their dishes. These places tend to be way overpriced and geared toward hipsters and trendy folk who have disposable income. Several years ago 2 close friends of mine who live in SRQ area got roped into one of those places and it set them back at least $130.00! The food was good but the portions skimpy and maybe worth half of what was charged. Again, check out Miami Beach 411 for ideas and feedback.


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User currently offlinebcal dc10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 722 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

Good suggestions so far but I thought this thread could do with some more input from someone who actually lives here.
Cuban food - the only place to get it is Versailles, in Little Havana. All my cuban friends in Miami swear by this place.
Another option is the cuban cafe on 41st st (north side) - its kind of ok.
Davids I, II and III cafe's (google their locations) are kind of popular too, but more touristy.

If you want a great place to see and be seen, great view and good food n drink, go to Juvia, 1111 Lincoln Road. It only just opened on the roof of the Suntrust building, and is pretty impressive. Get an outdoor table. Pricey, but worth it for a treat. You will need a res if you want to sit. Entrance is by Shakeshack on Lenox.

Another hot new spot is the Lantao Kitchen in the Surfcomber hotel on 17th & Collins. Great asian food.

Some old classics always worth a look - Smith & Wollensky for sunset cocktails in South Pointe Park is always a winner. Take a walk along to South Pointe and the beach. Lovely in the evening.
A good lunchtime spot is the Icebox Cafe on Michigan Ave north of Lincoln Rd. Great salads and desserts, where the locals go, so you know its good, and good value too.
There are some good places on Lincoln Rd, so I wouldn't necessarily avoid it. We quite enjoy walking down there and having lunch some days.

Anyway, if you need anything else, let me know.
Cheers


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7174 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1161 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 8):
Concourse D is certainly big enough to explore for awhile, easily taking half an hour to go from one end to the other if you're not hustling.

AA's new terminal is fantastic. You are on airliners so I am sure you like planes. Even if your gate is right near your security checkpoint go ahead and take the skytrain up and down the terminal there are some great views of the airport up there and in the evening you will see lots of heavies.

Quoting luckyone (Reply 8):
Allow yourself a LOT of time, and by a lot, assume your flight leaves at six. The Dolphin Expressway (which is how you would go from the Beach to the airport most likely,

To skip most of the traffic you will certainly want to take the 112 Airport Expressway from I-195. However in October I am not sure but I think the metrorail connection to the airport will be ready. And there is certainly an express bus from Miami Beach to the airport for a few bucks. A cab will about $30-$35.

Quoting luckyone (Reply 8):
Jerry's Diner on the Beach is very good, and pretty inexpensive

Do not go here unless it is the only place at 3am which it wont be most places in Miami Beach are open 24 hours.

Quoting N174UA (Reply 9):
Between the estimated cost and the "hassle-factor" of a car and parking, and getting around in Miami - I've decided not to rent one.
That is a good move if you want to check out mostly Miami Beach and relax.
- The Miami Beach 411 website that Zippyjet provided - there's a link to several reasonably priced tours for the city, Everglades, even Key West for a day. I will likely do several of these, for Thursday, Friday, and part of Saturday

Exactly, I would highly recommend Everglades National Park or Biscayne National Park which for October is probably the better choice. If you never snorkled in a Coral Reef I highly suggest it.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 10):
I've heard mixed reviews of Jerry's. It's open 24 hours and has plenty of great people

I have eaten there once, only have heard bad things about it. Expensive, bad service, food is ok. Only reason it does well is because of its fantastic location and being 24/7 in that location.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 10):
Personally I have an aversion to those fancy schmancy overpriced outdoor restaurants that proliferate on Ocean Drive and Lincoln Mall. They are the places where they have claymation models of their dishes. These places tend to be way overpriced and geared toward hipsters and trendy folk who have disposable income


I would say there are some good spots in Lincoln Road that are even popular with locals.
Next Cafe is good, not expensive and huge portions, Van Dykes Cafe is good too, I also think Pizza Rustica is a nice place to grab a slice of some unusual but very good pizza. All of these places are on Lincoln Road.

Quoting bcal dc10 (Reply 11):
Davids I, II and III cafe's (google their locations) are kind of popular too, but more touristy.

Davids Cafe's are pretty good.

Quoting bcal dc10 (Reply 11):
Cuban food - the only place to get it is Versailles, in Little Havana. All my cuban friends in Miami swear by this place

Versailles is where it is at for sure. It seems "touristy" but it really is where lots of people go for good Cuban food it is pretty much a Miami landmark.

Quoting bcal dc10 (Reply 11):
Smith & Wollensky for sunset cocktails in South Pointe Park is always a winner.

Great spot, and also a great spot to see the massive cruise ships go out in the late afternoon. Saturday and Sunday afternoons see the biggest ones but there should be some on Friday too.

Quoting bcal dc10 (Reply 11):
There are some good places on Lincoln Rd, so I wouldn't necessarily avoid it. We quite enjoy walking down there and having lunch some days.


I would certainly say give Lincoln Road a chance for lunch or dinner. Many many places to pick to eat and drink and lots of shops. It is a nice place to just walk around too. There are plenty of good places there that even I (a local) will go to often.



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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1117 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 12):
Do not go here unless it is the only place at 3am which it wont be most places in Miami Beach are open 24 hours.

Haha I guess it's all a matter of perspective. When I lived in Miami I went there frequently and never felt it was overpriced or the service was any worse than any other place in Miami. In general I found most service in Miami to be a bit, crusty.


User currently offlineoldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1525 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 934 times:

Hey all; I am traveling to MIA also. My trip though is next week ( April19-24). I thought rather than start a new thread I would just ask for some advice on this, since its been 6 days and I dont think I would be accused of hijacking it LOL. I will certainly use some of the tips on here and I am also wondering if there are any good spotting areas close to MIA. I will be renting a car so getting to one shouldn't be too big of a problem. I dont have a GPS; but am fairly good at reading maps 

Thanks; Rick (Oldman55) who's actually 63 now; Damn close to 64 :P



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User currently offlineoldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1525 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 805 times:

No one here knows anything about MIA spotting??? Thats kinda suprising; and dissapointing.. I am leaving Friday so any help will be greatly appreciated; Thanks


too bad most of us get too soon old and too late smart
User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7174 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 803 times:

Quoting oldman55 (Reply 15):
No one here knows anything about MIA spotting??? Thats kinda suprising; and dissapointing.. I am leaving Friday so any help will be greatly appreciated; Thanks
http://www.photovation.net/Spotting/SpottingMIA.htm

Spot A is suppose to be the best spot. B is good to catch heavies in the afternoon and cargo flights.
If you are flying AA Sky Train stations have great views of ramp and runways.



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User currently offlinedeltaholland From Netherlands, joined Dec 2008, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 793 times:

If you're staying in Miami, a great attraction to check out is South Beach Duck Tours (http://www.ducktourssouthbeach.com/)

It's basically an amphibious tour boat/automobile that takes you around Miami and the intercostal. The last time I visited Miami I went on this, and it was well worth the money and time!


User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 759 times:

Quoting oldman55 (Reply 15):
No one here knows anything about MIA spotting??? Thats kinda suprising; and dissapointing.. I am leaving Friday so any help will be greatly appreciated; Thanks

Take the Dolphin Expressway West during the afternoon rush hour. You could be in front of the airport for at least half an hour.    In all seriousness you do get an excellent, basically unobstructed view of every Concourse but American's. I would sometimes go out of my way to take that way home when I lived there just for the view, provided the traffic wasn't too bad. You can also park in the Dolphin Mall parking lot and watch them fly over if they're approaching from the West. If they're approaching from the East there's a shopping complex in Midtown with plenty of outdoor restaurants. They fly over pretty low.


User currently offlineoldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1525 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 684 times:

Thanks a lot for the info. It seems like there is some good spotting areas there.  


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