OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27696 posts, RR: 59 Posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
100 years since the sinking of the Titanic. This has always amazed me and despite all the arguements about the wrongs and rights about the media exploitation for me I am still fascinated by the ship and the events that lead to its sinking.
Belfast has marked the anniversary with a very well done and tasteful exibition where the Titanic was built. The ''Titanic Quarter'' was for years a run down area of Belfast and this has been turned around by this project. The exibition will educate people about the ship and the events. It is expected to draw hundreds of thousands of visitors and put Belfast in the spotlight in this Olympic year NI 2012.
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5930 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
I'm looking forward to visiting soon, though I'll wait until the anniversary of the sinking is well over to avoid the crowds. This will be a huge draw for the city and it's long overdue that the city had a tourist attraction that has universal and lasting appeal and which both nationalists and unionists can be proud of.
The city has come a long way over the last twenty years and well worth a visit for anyone coming to Ireland nowadays.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11829 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 1322 times:
It's definitely something I'll be visiting in due course. Incidentaly whilst researching a project I came across pictures and reports of surviving Titanic crew members being repatriated at Plymouth docks. They were treated as an embarrassing problem and attempts were made to cover up their arrival.
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Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5930 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 1311 times:
I've often wondered why a full-size replica of the ship was never built. It would be a guaranteed crowd-puller and, naturally, would have the benefit of being able to travel the world, raking-in serious money as an exhibition. And it would fetch premium fares as a luxury liner, although whether passengers would want to sail across the north Atlantic is another matter . . .
I've just been reading about Fr Brown, the priest who took those wonderful pics on the ship's leg from Southampton to Cobh (or Queenstown as it was then). Apparently his treasure trove of negatives were found, twenty five years after his death, in a trunk in the HQ of the Jesuits in Dublin, but among them were few of the Titanic. It is known he sold the pics days after the tragedy, and the buyers probably wanted the negatives to ensure exclusivity. It is believed that he took many more photographs than were published, which are probably now gathering dust in an archive somewhere. They would be worth a fortune if discovered.
He was extremely lucky in that he had only intended to travel from Southampton to Queenstown until a wealthy American family offered to pay his fare to continue on to New York. He had to telegraph his provincial in Dublin for permission, and got a brief note in reply: 'Get Off That Ship -- Provincial', which he kept in his wallet for the rest of his life.
NorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3128 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1296 times:
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Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 4): I've often wondered why a full-size replica of the ship was never built. It would be a guaranteed crowd-puller and, naturally, would have the benefit of being able to travel the world, raking-in serious money as an exhibition. And it would fetch premium fares as a luxury liner, although whether passengers would want to sail across the north Atlantic is another matter . . .
You are talking about a MASSIVE ship here... probably cheaper to raise the Britannic and rebuild it!
And "old" ships wouldn't do that well. Cunard even has become more cruise-ship than liner with the new queens... the day of the liner is done alas... There is one sitting in mothballs that no one has touched, the SS United States.
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Northern Ireland's newest tourist attraction Titanic Belfast has sold out until mid-April, those responsible for the signature project have confirmed - with only pre-ordered ticket holders able to visit over Easter.
Even so . . . it would be a permanent money-spinner (provided it didn't sink!). I'm old enough to (very vaguely) remember the 50th anniversary of the sinking, and it was nothing compared to the interest and "celebrations" -- if that's the correct word to use -- around the coming centenary. It's a story that will endure as long as there are people on this planet.
Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 5): And "old" ships wouldn't do that well. Cunard even has become more cruise-ship than liner with the new queens...
My mistake and a slight misunderstanding here: not being well-up on ships I was thinking of cruise liners (are there such things?). The days of the transatlantic liner are well gone, but as a cruise ship it would provide some company with a nice permanent income (with a few more lifeboats on board, of course).
I wouldn't rule out a replica being built sometime in the future.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 6): Is this best way to remember Titanic?
You're always going to have this argument, I'm afraid, and I suppose it comes down to your own beliefs and personal taste. There have been exhibitions of Titanic relics touring the world for the last couple of years (I went to the one in Dublin a couple of years ago and loved it), which were run by a private company. There was blatant merchandising, including books, replica relics (I bought a mug for 20 euro) and other novelty items, which no doubt some people may have found tasteless, but I don't remember any major controversy over it. You have this argument too over the wreck, with some people claiming it's a graveyard and should be treated with the same respect. Well, nothing remains of the people who died, so I wouldn't agree here. And anyway, graveyards have sometimes been cleared for other uses, so there's a precedent here. It all comes back to your own particular beliefs, I suppose, but really the only people who should be concerned -- and consulted -- here are the descendants of those who perished.
soon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 971 times:
What ever did happen to the lifeboats?...Even back then, souvenir hunters must have been all over this stuff. Kind of like the "Moon Rocks"...where did they go?. I have always been fascinated by this event and have wanted to visit the docks in Belfast for years. Recently having been to Wales for a wedding I was more interested in trying to get to Belfast. Now that this museum has been commemorated, I definitely would like to visit. A full scale repro of the ship is a fantastic idea. And while at it...actually make it a hotel to accommodate visitors. What current accommodations exist near the museum?...anyone?