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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3060 posts, RR: 8
Posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

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The illness and hospitalization of his daughter has forced Rick Santorum to suspend his campaign. Still developing...

[Edited 2012-04-10 11:17:50]


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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1423 times:
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I read where many were predicting he would do so for this reason. Also ahead of the PA primary and can still save face by not losing that to Mitt.


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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4588 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
The illness and hospitalization of his daughter has forced Rick Santorum to suspend his campaign. Still developing...

CNN seems to confirm at this moment. Awaiting the official announcement.

I wonder if this helps or hinders the Republican party. There is going to be a large portion of upset conservatives over the lack of a true conservative christian gop candidate.



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12435 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

Hmm ... sad to hear about his daughter, but so obvious that he is using this as cover; it has a kind of seedy, shabby veneer to it. There's going to be very few people out there who won't see right through this.

It's a shame really; Santorum gave the Republican Church, sorry campaign, the only little glimmer of humour (uninentionally, of course); it would have been so good to see him as the Republican candidate, but now, not to be unfortunately and somehow I don't see Romney calling him to be his running mate.

How long can it be before Gingrich throws in the towel as well? It must be clear that it's pretty well game over, as far as the nomination is concerned.


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12457 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

I'm not going to dump on Santorum for this. It's a fact his daughter is having problems. If it happens to also be a convenient way for him to wind down his campaign, so be it.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 2):
I wonder if this helps or hinders the Republican party. There is going to be a large portion of upset conservatives over the lack of a true conservative christian gop candidate.

Perhaps, but not upset enough to vote for Obama.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
How long can it be before Gingrich throws in the towel as well? It must be clear that it's pretty well game over, as far as the nomination is concerned.

I read this weekend where Newt did everything but throw in the towel. He admitted he could not get the number of delegates he needs to win, and he admitted his campaign is about $2M in debt. He also said once Mitt gets to the 1440 delegates, that Newt will be supporting Mitt. Newt has a few campaign appearances he will be making, but he's basically done.



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1551 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

Swell...now I'm forced to vote for the incompetent moron in office now.

Marc


User currently offlineflybaurlax From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 5):
Swell...now I'm forced to vote for the incompetent moron in office now.

No one is forcing you to do anything.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4588 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1338 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 4):
but not upset enough to vote for Obama.

But will they vote for Romney?



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2511 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 5):
Swell...now I'm forced to vote for the incompetent moron in office now.

He may be many things, but moron is not one. You don't graduate from Harvard by being a moron.
Incompetent, I can go along with. He's in way over his head as POTUS, should have stayed a senator for a while longer


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8226 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

I believe that Santorum saw the writing on the wall a long time ago, but held back his "suspension" because of the money.

When you look at the "Anyone-But-Willard" crown it is obvious that Rick was attractive. A grand Trans-Vaginal Conservative and one that will probably be at the top of the list when 2016 comes around

But he (along with Mr. Piggy) ate up a lot of Willard's cash, which might impact him in the General Election.

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 5):
now I'm forced to vote for the incompetent moron in office now.

As opposed to the one before him. The Bar Stool Pilot who started a war that didn't need t be started? And left us with the Great Recession? The worst economic crisis since the Great Recession? The Black Dude stopped the steep side to a depression, ended the Iraq War, killed OBL (along with an impressive list of other terrorists), brought in the first effort at health care reform in generations, etc.

Willard needs to show me something and I doubt if he will. He will support the Ryan Budget, which will be far from transparent, and run from identifying specific cuts. He will bend a lot when the power branch of the GOP speaks (demands).


User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3013 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1287 times:

I wanted Santorum, who I consider the most dangerous candidate to get this close to the presidency in a while, to win the nomination. I believe that the majority of Independents and voters in the center would recognize that as bad as Obama is, Rick is so scary they'd be forced to vote for Obama (only way I'd have voted for him), and the results would so embarrass the GOP, that they'd be forced to come back towards center. Dramatically. And the ultraConservatives can reconsider their political egos. With Romney, it'll remain this painful and disgusting status quo. And on my ballot, I will write in Barry from Storage Wars.


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7147 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 5):
Swell...now I'm forced to vote for the incompetent moron in office now.

If you were thinking about voting for Sontorum why would you vote for Obama over Romney

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
brought in the first effort at health care reform in generations, etc.

"effort" key word, we will see if it passes to be constitutional.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
Hmm ... sad to hear about his daughter, but so obvious that he is using this as cover; it has a kind of seedy, shabby veneer to it. There's going to be very few people out there who won't see right through this.

      I do not care if people think this or not, if they bring this up shame on them. It was obvious that he had a long road to try to beat Romney but until his daughter was sick I think we would have at least gone a bit more.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 4):
I'm not going to dump on Santorum for this. It's a fact his daughter is having problems. If it happens to also be a convenient way for him to wind down his campaign, so be it.

     



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1551 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

Quoting flybaurlax (Reply 6):
No one is forcing you to do anything.

If I do not vote, then I am not doing my part to effect change, and thus, feel that I have no right to complain.

Quoting flymia (Reply 11):
If you were thinking about voting for Sontorum why would you vote for Obama over Romney

I won't support a Mormon candidate.


User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2722 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

Quoting casinterest (Reply 2):
There is going to be a large portion of upset conservatives over the lack of a true conservative christian gop candidate.

Romney is a conservative compared to the ideologue that is in office now. I love Mitt... 
Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 12):
I won't support a Mormon candidate.

Care to elaborate?



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5521 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

So with this, what are his chances of being considered for the vice presidency?

Tugg



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7147 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 12):
I won't support a Mormon candidate.

Well that is your choice of course. I think religion should have very little to do with decisions made in the White House.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
The illness and hospitalization of his daughter has forced Rick Santorum to suspend his campaign

I thought he was too busy resurrecting Himself this weekend to also run? 



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12457 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1203 times:

Quoting casinterest (Reply 7):
But will they vote for Romney?

It's clear to me that most Santorum and Gingrich supporters will vote for Romney, because when push comes to shove, they see themselves as Republicans.

It's clear to me that most Paul supporters will write in "Ron Paul".

Heck, I may do it too as a protest vote.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4588 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 15):
Well that is your choice of course. I think religion should have very little to do with decisions made in the White House.

It shouldn't, However social conservatism in it's present form is derived very much from Religous sources. As such there are many ferverent believers that hold the notion that this country is a christian nation, and that Mormanism is not a part of that foundation.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 17):
It's clear to me that most Santorum and Gingrich supporters will vote for Romney, because when push comes to shove, they see themselves as Republicans.

Possibly, but possibly not. I expect a radical challenge from within the Social Conservative ranks prior to the conventopm, and deep divisions of the party infighting



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5400 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):


Can you post anything without reverting to name calling and ad-hominem attacks?

While Mr. Santorum's candidacy (or, more correctly, his strong candidacy) concerned me, he did provide a valuable foil for Mr. Romney. Santorum's (and to a lesser extent, the GOP's) real problem was that he took the bait that the media offered him, every time. He allowed them to move the focus from the dismal economy and anemic recovery to social issues. It's for that reason that I would not have supported him as the candidate. Not because of his positions (concerning, some are)...but because he was so easily manipulated by the media and the Democratic Party. He would not have stood a chance against the comparable liars that make up many foreign leaders.

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 12):
I won't support a Mormon candidate


So, you're applying a religious test? That's OK, you're allowed to. You're not the government. Just want to be clear. You will not vote for Mr. Romney because he is a Mormon. Knowing full well, that if too many Republicans and Independents feel the same way, we would get stuck with Mr. Obama and his "more flexibility". You would let your prejudice against a religion prevent you from voting for the best candidate. Nice. But, it is your vote, do with it what you will (within the law, of course).

Again, I'm glad that Mr. Santorum is out, whatever his announced reason. I don't think he would have won the general election. Too many people could feel his weakness. Mr. Gingrich is staying in only to garner some kind of power position in a Romney administration. I'm interested to see what he wants, what he's offered and what he gets.

Quoting tugger (Reply 14):
So with this, what are his chances of being considered for the vice presidency?


I don't think they're very good. He would be throwing away his excuse, wouldn't he? I think Mr. Romney goes outside the candidate pool for a V.P.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3060 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 4):
I'm not going to dump on Santorum for this. It's a fact his daughter is having problems. If it happens to also be a convenient way for him to wind down his campaign, so be it.

Even though I didn't agree with his views, I got to admit that he gave Romney for his money. It's a convenient yet sensible way to bow out.



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6581 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1182 times:
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Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 20):
It's a convenient yet sensible way to bow out.

My heart goes out to his family for his daughter, in a way only a family with a member in a similar condition can appreciate.

That being said, i have not seem any direct quote from him that he is leaving the campaign because of his daughters condition - and i really hope i don't.

There is no way he would have gotten the nomination, and using this as an "excuse" would only make him that much less palatable to me



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8958 posts, RR: 40
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 12):
If I do not vote, then I am not doing my part to effect change, and thus, feel that I have no right to complain.

Other way around. . .

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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1035 times:

Quoting casinterest (Reply 18):
As such there are many ferverent believers that hold the notion that this country is a christian nation, and that Mormanism is not a part of that foundation.

You can also come at it from the other angle. What Mormons claim to believe is fairly described, I think, as bugnut crazy. One might well argue that an individual who claims to believe such insane things does not have the appropriate mental faculties to run a country. Of course, the odd thing is that Mr. Romney, though he claims to believe bugnut crazy things, is pretty obviously not bugnut crazy himself. Which leads one to wonder whether he really believes what he says he does...



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 23):
Which leads one to wonder whether he really believes what he says he does...

I really don't think he does, whereas Santorum absolutely does, and that is scary--though totally unelectable.



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25 Cadet985 : Nope. I'd be banned quickly if I did.
26 ltbewr : To me Santorum's campaign was a mixed bag and probably why he is now out. His main appeal was to the most religious Catholics and Christians as well a
27 jpetekyxmd80 : Welcome to the club. I'd be banned quickly if I said what I thought about those who vote for Santorum. Happy trails, fascist.
28 stratosphere : Yep I always said it Obama will not win the repubs will lose...That is what is happening now..I hate Romney but I hate Obama more. Not so much him bu
29 Mir : Correction: the illness and hospitalization of his daughter has given Rick Santorum a convenient excuse to suspend his campaign without admitting tha
30 Revelation : Why is the admission that he lost so important? I saw a video of him and he didn't bring his daughter into it directly, he just said he made the deci
31 mt99 : They prove the kind of man that he is. If he was winning, and he left the campaign for her daughter then i would have applauded him. IF he really sai
32 Mir : Because that's why he's dropping out. -Mir
33 Revelation : He didn't mention it at all. The implication comes via the timing of the announcement, not from anything he said. Actually he isn't dropping out, he'
34 Aesma : Wasn't his daughter born sick ? Trisomy 18 is nasty...
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