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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3003 posts, RR: 8
Posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 997 times:

OK...I need some help here. I'm desperate and I want some advice from you guys, especially since I'm short in time. I've been offered a position for three different summer internship programs but I'm undecided as to which one to go (well, I was pretty sure until the third one came in yesterday). The details are as follow:

1. University of Oklahoma: what I'll be doing is programming a video game to exhibit in a major meteorology meeting (most likely the AMS meeting in Austin). I was recommended by another program in Boulder (ie. I didn't apply for this).
Pays over $5k, plus covers all basic costs, plus will grant me money to attend the meeting.

2. Penn State: 10-week weather-related research with a faculty member with the chance of publishing a paper on what I did. I applied to this one directly with the professor.
Pays $4,400 for the whole summer, but does not cover housing nor air fare (though I've been looking for a way to get sponsors for that).

3. MIT Lincoln Laboratory: I just received the offer yesterday so I don't know what I'll be doing. I'm scheduled to speak with the recruiter tomorrow morning. Being that it's a major R&D and it's a DoD lab, it's most likely engineering stuff. And no, I did not apply for this either.

Now, here's the thing. Before the MIT LL offer came, the dilemma I had was whether I should go to the one that offered big money or the one that offered me what I wanted to do. It's no secret here (and if it was, it's out in the open now) that I want to be a meteorologist. I'm majoring in computer engineering while doing a curricular sequence in meteorology, but it's not that I want to be an engineer. Somehow, the OU offer sounded interesting, but when the Penn State offer came along, I began to question myself: do I follow the money or follow my passion?

Just when I thought I had everything all settled, this next offer came along and it's back to the drawing board. I'll wait to see what I'll be offered (numbers especially, what can be covered, what won't be covered, etc), but I may just opt for the MIT LL offer if it sounds sweet enough. In this case, I think that despite my interest in meteorology I can actually gain more from this opportunity than OU or PSU.

Still if it were you in my shoes and faced with this: which one would you choose?


"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2642 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 981 times:

Follow your passion.

At your age, if you make decisions based on that, you will in fact be making a lot more money when, say, you're my age; than if you now make pivotal decisions based on short-term financial impact.


(Oh, also you'll be happier. Y'know, even in the non-financial parts of life. Which are also good.)



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 977 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
the dilemma I had was whether I should go to the one that offered big money or the one that offered me what I wanted to do.

The one you want to do. In the long run what is a few thousand dollars really?

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
MIT Lincoln Laboratory:

Guess you need to find out what you will be doing but the letters "MIT" will certainly look very nice on a resume. When something that looks great comes along think also about which of these will be best and open the most doors to future jobs.



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8795 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 958 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
3. MIT Lincoln Laboratory: I just received the offer yesterday so I don't know what I'll be doing. I'm scheduled to speak with the recruiter tomorrow morning. Being that it's a major R&D and it's a DoD lab, it's most likely engineering stuff. And no, I did not apply for this either.

MIT on your resume is worth a hell of a lot more than UO or PS. I'd go for that one - and then work your balls off to excel - when your internship is over, you want to be missed.

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):

Follow your passion.

At your age, if you make decisions based on that, you will in fact be making a lot more money when, say, you're my age; than if you now make pivotal decisions based on short-term financial impact.

I disagree. That's what we've been told for generations now, but if your passion is basketweaving you will be enjoying your work while doing it on the sidewalk.

You have to make a conscious decision to pursue what you can do better than the people you see around you. If you enjoy it, that's a nice bonus. You think I enjoy getting up every morning and having to deal with spreadsheets, budget meetings, lawyers, engineers begging me for funds, shareholders demanding better returns, etc? The only enjoyment I get out of it is the knowledge that I do it pretty damned well. That's life. Hopefully I can retire by 55, and then start really enjoying life.



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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2642 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 939 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
I disagree. That's what we've been told for generations now, but if your passion is basketweaving you will be enjoying your work while doing it on the sidewalk.

My words were were for einsteinboricua. That is, I knew I was talking to someone with a passion for engineering and the sciences.

Trust me, my "you'll be making a lot more money" line is something I would not have said to a committed basket-weaver.



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9805 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 923 times:
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I would suggest this one:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):

3. MIT Lincoln Laboratory: I just received the offer yesterday so I don't know what I'll be doing. I'm scheduled to speak with the recruiter tomorrow morning. Being that it's a major R&D and it's a DoD lab, it's most likely engineering stuff. And no, I did not apply for this either.

Also, I sent you a PM.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3003 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 829 times:

Both areas are terrific. When I first entered college, I really wanted to study meteorology, but the UPR doesn't offer a BS in that, so I have to combine it with another science-related major. Out of all the areas, I thought CpEng would be the best option since it gives you some knowledge in programming and hardware issues as well. Thought I'm nearly done with my major, I'm not interested in being an engineer. I may take the tests to get my engineer's license, but that's about it. I plan on getting a MS and even a PhD in meteorology.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):

Follow your passion.

At your age, if you make decisions based on that, you will in fact be making a lot more money when, say, you're my age; than if you now make pivotal decisions based on short-term financial impact.

I disagree. That's what we've been told for generations now, but if your passion is basketweaving you will be enjoying your work while doing it on the sidewalk.

You have to make a conscious decision to pursue what you can do better than the people you see around you. If you enjoy it, that's a nice bonus. You think I enjoy getting up every morning and having to deal with spreadsheets, budget meetings, lawyers, engineers begging me for funds, shareholders demanding better returns, etc? The only enjoyment I get out of it is the knowledge that I do it pretty damned well. That's life. Hopefully I can retire by 55, and then start really enjoying life.

Both of you have valid points. I can assume that many (if not all) of us here have the same passion: aviation. Since I was a kid all I wanted to be was a pilot, but I also have to be realistic. Getting a private license is expensive, not to mention trying to work your way up to commercial pilot, so I went with the next best thing. While the PSU experience is good, I'm not in a very good financial position to cover the costs of this. But then if I opt for OU, I know I'll do a good job and get the money (which I really need), but I'll feel like I haven't done anything of significance, so which experience should I have picked back then?

Quoting flymia (Reply 2):
but the letters "MIT" will certainly look very nice on a resume.
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
MIT on your resume is worth a hell of a lot more than UO or PS. I'd go for that one - and then work your balls off to excel - when your internship is over, you want to be missed.

I posted this on my status and some contacts "corrected" me and said that I'm not gonna be working with MIT. I know that, but an agency affiliated with MIT still sounds good enough for me.

Let's see what the recruiter says today...Thanks for all the input so far.



"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 828 times:

When I was an undergraduate I made several choices where I gave up better fiscal opportunities for options that were directly related to my career path. By 30 I was much further in my career path than peers that chose the money because I had been building direct experience in my field.

As long as you won't be out on the street, the most directly-related option is always my recommendation.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4510 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 794 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
You have to make a conscious decision to pursue what you can do better than the people you see around you. If you enjoy it, that's a nice bonus. You think I enjoy getting up every morning and having to deal with spreadsheets, budget meetings, lawyers, engineers begging me for funds, shareholders demanding better returns, etc? The only enjoyment I get out of it is the knowledge that I do it pretty damned well. That's life. Hopefully I can retire by 55, and then start really enjoying life.

But he isn't in his career yet, and by the looks of it he has two very profitable paths, engineering vs meteorolgy. Either one will pay him well.

Your current job is one that was probably built off of your career path, rather than what you wanted when you were still in school.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3003 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 778 times:

No numbers yet, but the MIT LL offer has to do with developing an algorithm for voice recognition...the numbers alone will determine if it's worth it or not.


"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 702 times:

As a very recent college grad who is trying to get into a career, my advice is to take whatever gives you the most experience in what you want to do. I agree with Planeguy727, don't worry about the money right now; future interviewers will never ask you how much money you made, but they will want to know about what you did, learned, and accomplished.

If there is still a three-way tie, then go with MIT. Yes, I realize that the lab you may be at won't technically be MIT, but people who read resumes won't spend more than a quick glance. The letters "MIT" are short and pop out significantly. As a side note, Cambridge, MA is a nice place to spend a summer.

The people you work with should write you recommendations afterwards and the more you get out of your experiences, the better your recommendation, and ultimately you, will look.



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3003 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 683 times:

Gotta wait until Monday. Turns out the offer was more an interview offer (why the recruiter failed to mention this, I don't know. What's the first thing that comes to mind when an email reads "I'd like to discuss a summer research opening..."?) so I have to wait until then on whether I get the position or not. He mentioned what I would do which was optimizing algorithms and developing others for text processing (or something like that). Something tells me I'm not gonna land this one, so Penn State, here I come.


"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
User currently offlineaa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 663 times:

Internships are about experience, not money. The pay associated with them is just to cover expenses. Consider yourself lucky -- there are many, many unpaid interns that have to barista or bar tend on the weekend to cover their summer living expenses.

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