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Should Chrysler Make A Car Above The 300C?  
User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6530 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4312 times:

With Lincoln and Cadillac no longer having flagship RWD sedans, and with the Hyundai Equus now on the market, doesn't anyone think this would be the opportunity for Chrysler to introduce a new model above the 300C (Imperial? 400D?) to better compete with Lincoln and Cadillac?

With the Mercury Grand Marquis (the 300's former direct competitor) and Lincoln Town Car (the livery king) gone, perhaps Chrysler could try to give Lincoln and Cadillac a run for their money with a new flagship RWD full-luxury sedan. Currently, the 300's chief competitors include the Ford Taurus, Toyota Avalon, Hyundai Azera, Buick LaCrosse, and soon the 2014 Chevy Impala. All of these models are FWD. With full-luxury RWD sedans being limited to Lexus, Hyundai, and the European luxury car manufacturers, perhaps Chrysler could try entering the market.

Also, perhaps such model would be an opportunity for Chrysler to re-enter the livery market. The Town Car has been discontinued, and Chrysler has exited the livery market with the current 300, even though this hasn't stopped limo manufacturers coming up with their own unofficial versions. If Chrysler were to come up with a new full-luxury RWD sedan, perhaps Chrysler can truly fill in the void left by the discontinuation of the Lincoln Town Car.

What does anyone here think?


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User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4303 times:

Chrysler used to have a car above the 300 - it was the Mercedes S class sedans. The "old" Chryler (back when they were Daimler-Chrysler) did present a concept sedan (called the Imperial) that was very large - like the size of the current Bentley, but Chrysler's money problems and its divorce for Daimler killed the Imperial project. Perhaps with Fiat's new ownership, they will reconsider a true luxury sedan again. Historically, Chrysler was a distant third behind Cadillac and Lincoln (and in more recent years - Mercedes, Lexus, and BMW) in the luxury sedan marketplace.


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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

Chrysler (the group, not just the brand) has more pressing concerns (such as a competitive midsize/family car) that it needs to focus on first.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39873 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
doesn't anyone think this would be the opportunity for Chrysler to introduce a new model above the 300C (Imperial?

There was an Imperial concept in 2006 but thanks to government regulations, they didn't go forward with it.

http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/2006/Press/01.jpg

http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/2006/Press/02.jpg

http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/2006/Factory/10-reg.jpg

http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/2006/Factory/13-reg.jpg



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User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4284 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
There was an Imperial concept in 2006 but thanks to government regulations, they didn't go forward with it.

They probably just didn't have the heart to build a RR knock off after producing the bootleg Bentley!



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8840 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4283 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
There was an Imperial concept in 2006 but thanks to government regulations, they didn't go forward with it.

Good thing too - I don't like seeing things that make me vomit while I drive. Styling by Mrs. Belcher's 2nd grade art class.

How about something like this :




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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39873 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

Quoting Molykote (Reply 4):
They probably just didn't have the heart to build a RR knock off after producing the bootleg Bentley!

Yet just about every car on the road today seems like a copy of another brand.
Seems like every car today is trying to look sporty but when a brand designs a formally styled sedan, people accuse them of coping Rolls Royce.
Rolls Royce is not a bad model to copy by the way.
Sure as hell looks better than any of these CUV knockoffs.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):
How about something like this :

Roofline is too low and I hate those narrow sliver headlights that wrap around the edge.



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User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4276 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Seems like every car today is trying to look sporty but when a brand designs a formally styled sedan, people accuse them of coping Rolls Royce

I think the largest problem is that few (no?) brands have the status of RR, so a relatively pedestrian Chrysler is going to have no chance of pulling off a clone.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39873 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

Quoting Molykote (Reply 7):
I think the largest problem is that few (no?) brands have the status of RR, so a relatively pedestrian Chrysler is going to have no chance of pulling off a clone.

Yet it's ok for every brand from Nissan, to Volkswagen to Chevrolet to copy Porsche?
40 years ago, Lincoln copied Rolls Royce styling and it worked well and sold well.



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User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4259 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Quoting Molykote (Reply 7):
I think the largest problem is that few (no?) brands have the status of RR, so a relatively pedestrian Chrysler is going to have no chance of pulling off a clone.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Yet it's ok for every brand from Nissan, to Volkswagen to Chevrolet to copy Porsche?
40 years ago, Lincoln copied Rolls Royce styling and it worked well and sold well.

Porsche is held in high esteem, but none of those brands have the cachet of RR. Additionally, VW has had a meaningful working relationship with Porsche for some time (even before they owned ~half of Porsche).

I did a brief google search, but couldn't find a Lincoln that looked like a RR (not doubting you, but I am not familiar with old Lincolns and didn't know what to search for).

Beyond the "who copied whom?" discussion, I think the biggest problem people have with the above Chrysler designs is that they simply took the world standard icon of automotive exclusivity/luxury/quality and built a cheap looking copy for 10% of the price. Kind of like an Invicta to the Rolex...



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15739 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4228 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
Should Chrysler Make A Car Above The 300C? 

Yes. The 300 should be the lowest car in the Chrysler lineup.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
There was an Imperial concept in 2006 but thanks to government regulations, they didn't go forward with it.

That's a bad Rolls Royce knockoff and as badly as the 300 aged before its update, this would age worse.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39873 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4221 times:

Quoting Molykote (Reply 9):
Porsche is held in high esteem, but none of those brands have the cachet of RR. Additionally, VW has had a meaningful working relationship with Porsche for some time (even before they owned ~half of Porsche).

What bugs me is that even minivans and SUVs are trying to 'look' sporty and almost every sedan is trying to copy a sporty look. I really hate the low in the front, high in the back vertical beltlines of all cars today.
I like the boxy formal styling of the 300C and proposed Imperial. If its looks like a poorman's Rolls Royce, so what?
This car would have sold between $50,000 - $60,000.
The standard 6.4 liter HEMI puts out 470HP compared to the 453HP the Rolls Royce Phantom puts out.

Quoting Molykote (Reply 9):
I did a brief google search, but couldn't find a Lincoln that looked like a RR (not doubting you, but I am not familiar with old Lincolns and didn't know what to search for).

That would be my Lincoln.  



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4194 times:

I think the Chrysler brand should have a car above the 300. However, I don't think they should go for a large luxury sedan like the Imperial of yore (or the purported modern day Imperial previewed by the concept of the mid-2000s), but rather a halo two-door car along the lines of the 2005 Chrysler Firepower concept (sports car) or the 1993 Chrysler Thunderbolt concept (luxury coupe).

Of all the great Chrysler concept cars of the nineties, the 1993 Chrysler Thunderbolt was one of my favorites. Of course the Thunderbolt is no longer a reference for future cars styling-wise because car design has followed a different path, but the idea of Chrysler releasing a 4.0 liter, I-8, RWD luxury coupe with more than 360 hp sounds realistic and, to the loyalists of the brand, it should sound tantalizing. Now that it has FIAT's resources readily available, Chrysler could get some help from Maserati engineers to put together a modern day Thunderbolt that is luxurious enough to lure some buyers away from the premium brands and that, at the same time, has a credible chassis that can satisfy performance enthusiasts.

Just my two cents.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7360 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4191 times:

The big question you should ask is who would buy it, American luxury cars don't sell well, cars these days need to sell in more than one market, a luxury Chrysler isn't going to sell anywhere outside North America, just like Cadillac and Lincoln, they don't sell well outside there traditional market. Fiat isn't stupid, they know this so they aren't going to throw good money after a dumb idea, besides they have a large luxury car in the Quattroporte.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):

There was an Imperial concept in 2006 but thanks to government regulations, they didn't go forward with it.

I don't think govt regulations had anything to do with it, the styling only generated negative reviews from pretty much all the motoring press and customer clinics.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
I really hate the low in the front, high in the back vertical beltlines of all cars today.

You can partially blame pedestrian safety regulations for this look, also a low front improves aerodynamics and fuel consumption.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39873 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 12):
the Thunderbolt is no longer a reference for future cars styling-wise because car design has followed a different path,

That was their cab-forward era. Glad that era is over.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 12):
Now that it has FIAT's resources readily available, Chrysler could get some help from Maserati engineers to put together a modern day Thunderbolt that is luxurious enough to lure some buyers away from the premium brands and that, at the same time, has a credible chassis that can satisfy performance enthusiasts.

Perhaps Maserati should help Chrysler improve their interior. The 300C is a great car but the seats are rather hard. Chrysler used to have some of the most comfortable seats ever and when they teamed up with Maserati to make the TC in the last 80s, that was probably the most soft & comfortable seat in a roadster ever made.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7360 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4162 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Chrysler used to have some of the most comfortable seats ever

You need to sit in a Volvo, by far and away the best seats short of a Rolls Royce or Bentley.


User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
I really hate the low in the front, high in the back vertical beltlines of all cars today.
I like the boxy formal styling of the 300C and proposed Imperial. If its looks like a poorman's Rolls Royce, so what?

You do realize that the 300 was one of the cars that really started that trend right? Sitting in it was frequently compared to sitting in a coffin because its "boxy formal" styling had tiny windows.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
I don't think govt regulations had anything to do with it, the styling only generated negative reviews from pretty much all the motoring press and customer clinics.

Not to mention DamilerChrysler fear of having Chrysler compete with Mercedes in any way.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7520 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
Also, perhaps such model would be an opportunity for Chrysler to re-enter the livery market. The Town Car has been discontinued, and Chrysler has exited the livery market with the current 300, even though this hasn't stopped limo manufacturers coming up with their own unofficial versions. If Chrysler were to come up with a new full-luxury RWD sedan, perhaps Chrysler can truly fill in the void left by the discontinuation of the Lincoln Town Car.

Truth be told, the last factory-produced RWD limo that contained more passenger seating than a standard or slightly stretched sedan was the 1984 Cadillac Fleetwood Limousine.
http://www.rivimp.com/images/IMG_3440.jpg
Both Cadillac and Chrysler tried making FWD-based limos on their own during the mid-to-late 80s but failed miserably, especially Chrysler due to its underpowered 4-cylinder engine.

As a result; most limo coach builders simply opted for for either the largest and/or RWD sedans, cut them in half and added sections to them. That's essentially been SOP for the last 2-1/2 to 3 decades.

For the record, aside from the Town Car L model (which was also available to the retail market BTW) and some custom-built Presidential models; Lincoln hasn't had nor offered a factory-built limo for livery companies since, maybe, the 1950s. Although there was one coach-builder that specialized in building stretch limo Lincolns (including a 4-door '68 Mark III) from 1964-1970.

The Lincoln Town Car stretch limos that one sees (or has seen) on the roads for the last 3 decades are mostly aftermarket conversions/alterations to a standard retail Town Car.

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 1):
Chrysler used to have a car above the 300 - it was the Mercedes S class sedans.

While that might be technically correct but I believe the OP was asking regarding a vehicle within the Chrysler line-up. The pictured Imperial concept could have been that flagship among Chryslers.

Quoting Molykote (Reply 9):
I did a brief google search, but couldn't find a Lincoln that looked like a RR (not doubting you, but I am not familiar with old Lincolns and didn't know what to search for).

The main RR-like feature on Lincolns was the tall, squarish grille that first appeared on the '68 Continental Mark III and was later applied to all Lincoln models in 1977. All Lincolns would feature this style grille (or a variant of it) for the next 10 years. The 1997 Town Car would be the last Lincoln to feature this style grille (or variant).



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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):
How about something like this :


Haha, French design for an American car? I don't believe that.  


I can't wait for that car.

BTW, it also will be available as a Diesel-Hybrid. 1.7 litres/100 km (138.36 miles/gallon)!
I'm sure that this will be the first bigger success for Citroen after the legendary DS.

http://www.cars-electric.com/citroen...cifications-a-mature-hybrid-sedan/



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
a luxury Chrysler isn't going to sell anywhere outside North America

Well, under FIAT's plans, there will be a lineup of quasi-premium to premium cars of different sizes that would be sold as Chryslers in the Americas and as Lancias in Europe.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Perhaps Maserati should help Chrysler improve their interior.

As of this model year, there is a Chrysler 300 Luxury Series with Poltrona Frau and Nappa leather on the seats and wrapping the steering wheel, dashboard, door panels and center console, and featuring matte-finish hand-sanded wood trim. Lancia, as I understand, had a role in helping create this top-of-the-line trim level for the Chrysler 300 (btw, the 300 is already sold as the Lancia Thema in most European markets). I bet the seats of this car are very, very comfortable.  



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39873 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4094 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 16):
Sitting in it was frequently compared to sitting in a coffin because its "boxy formal" styling had tiny windows.

That is due to it's low roof-line. There are sedans with rear passenger beltlines up to their ears.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
s of this model year, there is a Chrysler 300 Luxury Series with Poltrona Frau and Nappa leather on the seats and wrapping the steering wheel, dashboard, door panels and center console, and featuring matte-finish hand-sanded wood trim.

That is great to hear!
I'd like to see what those look like.

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 18):
Haha, French design for an American car? I don't believe that.

Wasn't that what Delorean was?



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User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
Wasn't that what Delorean was?

Italy isn't a province in France http://www.italdesign.it/project/delorean-dmc12-eng

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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7360 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4058 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 16):

Not to mention DamilerChrysler fear of having Chrysler compete with Mercedes in any way.

I can't see a Mercedes model that the Imperial would have competed with, if someone wants an S class they buy one, I couldn't see them cross shopping an Imperial.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 17):
Truth be told, the last factory-produced RWD limo that contained more passenger seating than a standard or slightly stretched sedan was the 1984 Cadillac Fleetwood Limousine.

Only in the US, Mercedes has offered a six door E & S class limos for a long time. The Daimler DS420 ended production in 1992, it was a factory 6 seater.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
Well, under FIAT's plans, there will be a lineup of quasi-premium to premium cars of different sizes that would be sold as Chryslers in the Americas and as Lancias in Europe.

And the Lancia badge isn't going to help one bit, only Italians buy Lancia, Euro buyers aren't daft, the 300C wasn't successful in Europe, so I doubt the same car with a Lancia badge will be any different, Fiat are kidding themselves if they think otherwise.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39873 posts, RR: 74
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
Chrysler 300 Luxury Series

I just looked at some of those photos. It's certainly an improvement.
I'd still love to see something along the lines of the TC by Maserati interior.
That was a slice of heaven in a 2-seat roadster.

Quoting Larshjort (Reply 21):

Point taken but if you want to be a smart***, at least find a link that works.   



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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22):
I can't see a Mercedes model that the Imperial would have competed with, if someone wants an S class they buy one, I couldn't see them cross shopping an Imperial.

I doubt anyone would have cross shopped it with an S class, but if it was good enough it may have stolen some of the lower end C or maybe E class buyers. That said Daimler was paranoid about any potential of Chrysler making Mercedes look bad.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22):
And the Lancia badge isn't going to help one bit, only Italians buy Lancia, Euro buyers aren't daft, the 300C wasn't successful in Europe, so I doubt the same car with a Lancia badge will be any different, Fiat are kidding themselves if they think otherwise.

I doubt Fiat expects the 300/Thema to be a huge success in Europe. But it makes more sense to try and market only one troubled brand in Europe (Lancia) versus two (Chrysler and Lancia).


25 KiwiRob : They are marketing both brands in Europe, they will be Lancia's in continental Europe and Chrysler's in the UK and Ireland.
26 srbmod : Most limo companies here in the US don't offer a Mercedes S Class limo other than as a straight up sedan. When it comes to stretched sedans, the Linc
27 N1120A : Well, every Cadillac is RWD now, so I don't see the point. Indeed, they were all FWD for a while, with the "flagship" being the FWD DeVille. That thi
28 1337Delta764 : Wrong, Cadillac's new flagship, the XTS, is FWD (based on the Super Epsilon II platform, which will also be used for the 2014 Chevy Impala).
29 Post contains images N1120A : Oh, that's weird. I guess all the old folks who got used to FWD didn't want to change
30 Dreadnought : . Which is why it will be a failure. You don't take a $20k car, slap on bodywork and chrome, and sell it for 2-3 times the price. You would have thou
31 srbmod : The XTS will share a platform with the Impala; the car itself will not be based on the Impala. Platform sharing is commonplace. For example the Dodge
32 Dreadnought : I rest my case. No luxury cars among them.
33 BMI727 : They're basically selling the big American car without the big American engine. And considering that in the UK at least it is sold at A6/5 Series pri
34 Superfly : Agreed but Cadillac doesn't even use chrome any more. It's just plastic cladding.
35 stasisLAX : Platform sharing is the way of the world. You need economy of scale with these platforms - and we're not going to see 133 inch wheelbase Cadillac spe
36 KiwiRob : Porsche Cayenne, VW Touareg and Audi Q7 are built on the same platform, which will also be used by Bentley, Bentley Continental and Flying Spur are b
37 mad99 : Delorean was an Italian design and a French engine. I think it had a Volvo engine?
38 Post contains images Superfly : The AMC Eagle was based on the AMC Hornet which came out in 1970 model year.
39 Post contains links and images KiwiRob : I should have said AMC Eagle Premier, this ugly POS which is based on this although you'd probably love the interior Superfly
40 Superfly : That is a very nice interior and looks very comfortable.
41 KiwiRob : It had the PVR V6 which was a joint venture between Peugeot, Renault and Volvo, it was also used in the Eagle Premier and Dodge Monaco.
42 zippyjet : I like both designs! Even though our CAFE regulations nixed it Chrysler should consider reviving the Imperial if for nothing else that such a car wou
43 Post contains images Superfly : An upscale version of the current Challenger! Throw in some Corinthian leather too!
44 KiwiRob : What exactly do you mean by Corinthian leather?
45 Post contains links PHLBOS : Sherman, set the Wayback Machine to 1975: Note what is mentioned in 0:22-0:23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o
46 KiwiRob : so basically it's just marketing BS which Superfly has bought into, he's often referring to Corinthian leather, it's really noting more than a fancy n
47 BMI727 : They lifted basically the whole suspensions from Benz. That pretty well counts as based on. It works when you have a good platform and appropriate ot
48 KiwiRob : The platform is more than just suspension components. It's a very expensive platform with a transaxel, any Chrysler built on that platform is also go
49 BMI727 : That's why it's "based on" rather than being the same platform. Chryslers should be expensive. Otherwise it's a Dodge or a Fiat or an Alfa Romeo. Rea
50 Superfly : Are you kidding? The whole Corinthian leather gimmick was a joke from day one. It's just fun to poke fun at it for those who can see the humor. When
51 Post contains images NASCARAirforce : you mean this?
52 Post contains images Superfly : That is the most comical limousine ever produced.
53 Post contains links stasisLAX : Fly, virtually NO mass-produced car today utilizes chrome. You know that - because chrome weights too much and affects fuel-economy estimates with th
54 Post contains images Superfly : That is a great car and very modern too. I have the 3-tape 8track cartridge set that came with that car. It's all Frank Sinatra songs. I know a retir
55 Post contains images NASCARAirforce : This might top it: Or Chrysler could build this:
56 Post contains links WildcatYXU : If you think it's bad, look at this: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3778276120_42f67a7e3f_z.jpg Or this: http://www.autoindex.sk/images/galer...l
57 Post contains images Dreadnought : Excuse me?
58 Superfly : That is a aftermarket custom job. The K-car limousine was a factory assembly line production vehicle available to consumers. BTW, I did see that exac
59 Post contains links and images zippyjet : these and that Pacer limo. I guess those designers had too much free time. How about a Chrysler Imperial retro boat based on this: And GM could do a
60 Post contains links and images Superfly : Chrysler did offer limousine's from the factory up till 1965. The 1957-1965 models were very expensive and were twice as much as the offerings from Ca
61 Post contains images NASCARAirforce : Ok one last one: Did anyone buy Chrysler 300C Executive Hurst Edition? It had a 6 inch longer wheel base but I never saw any on the road to my knowled
62 Superfly : 404 - File or directory not found. No image.
63 Post contains images NASCARAirforce : I'll try again with a different pic
64 PHLBOS : I may have seen one or two of those on the road. Those were essentially similar to what the Lincoln Town Car L series was; a stretched rear door for
65 Post contains links and images kiwirob : But not a factory stretch, these were built by Performance West Group, another company called Accubuilt provided the stretch, the only reason why I k
66 Post contains links and images Superfly : All Chrysler fans and people who are interested in the history of full-sized Chrysler and Imperials need to visit this page; http://www.imperialclub.c
67 Post contains images NASCARAirforce : I remember seeing a couple of those little K limos on the road. There were a handful of the aftermarket LHS stretch limos on the road - these were als
68 Superfly : Bob Dole had one when he ran for President in 1996.
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