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U.S. Gun Laws And FPS Russia  
User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 841 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10236 times:

I’ve noticed that there are a few gun enthusiasts around here so wondered if anyone could explain to me how this guy gets hold of the weapons and ammunition he does. He is apparently US based and a google search suggests he may live in Georgia but I obviously can’t be sure.

For anyone who hasn’t seen his video’s and enjoys the occasional bit of senseless destruction here is a link to him playing around with a mini gun. And that’s just one example of an “extreme” weapon, if you look though his other videos you can see him firing everything from LAW rockets to AA12 fully automatic shotguns. As for the ammo, he uses tracer, incendiary, armour piercing to name but a few.

It’s not my intention to start a debate on Gun Laws, I’m just curious as to how in the hell he can get hold of what he does, and if anyone with enough money would be able to do the same…



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Dave

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User currently offlinegingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 893 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10211 times:

I'm fairly certain he has struck a deal with legal suppliers within the US, and he promotes them in certain ways or something.

I haven't seen his videos in a long time however, because his fake Russian accent used to grate on me (he was born and raised in the US).



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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1224 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10196 times:

If one's youtube videos become very popular and get enough views (his videos certainly do), Youtube/Google shares some of the ad revenues they make with you. I don't think it would amount to very much though.

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 1):
I'm fairly certain he has struck a deal with legal suppliers within the US, and he promotes them in certain ways or something.

That would make sense. I very much doubt that he owns many of the weapons that are shown in his videos. More likely that he borrows/rents the weapons (and pays for ammunition) or has some kind of deal with gun sellers through which he gets access to them.



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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 841 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10192 times:

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 1):
I haven't seen his videos in a long time however, because his fake Russian accent used to grate on me (he was born and raised in the US).

Your not the only one…

However, if your able to ignore it then I think he and his videos are really entertaining. I’ve never been into guns and besides going claying a couple of times I’ve only ever shot the Browning HP, SA80 A1/A2 whilst doing basic training in the Royal Navy.

It’s was the new “Gun Show” fad on the Discovery channels – “Son’s of Guns”, “Top Shot” and “American Guns” (The later being the best by far) that I started to get a little interested and ended up looking for gun reviews un-such on youtube.

I think what I find really entertaining with FPS though are the comments on some of his video’s, with the Anti’s going against the Nuts. It almost makes me appreciate how well-mannered our own Boeing vs Airbus flame wars are.


User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1613 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10177 times:

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 3):
I’ve never been into guns

Me neither, but I never skip a FPS Russia video. I know the accent is fake, still think it's funny. And the guns and destruction are simply cool.

Loved the Glock automatic with tracers video!



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User currently offlinedl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10161 times:
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These guys are in Lavonia, GA. I just called a friend in the gun business who knows them. To answer the question under US firearms law most of that stuff is only available if you have a manufacturers license or class III ffl.

There are people who have all kinds of stuff I'm their collections and let them out for video, and I can only assume that the video creators here are hooked in with a couple of collectors or a manufacturer. He does definitely borrow weapons from some gun stores and from individuals with these firearms. I know where he got the minigun.

It's not just access to money, although money is required. To be able to collect these weapons one has to be vetted prior to being issued the appropriate transfer stamps. After that its a matter of state laws if you're just a collector.

[Edited 2012-04-26 06:43:18]


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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 841 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10140 times:

Quoting dl021 (Reply 5):
These guys are in Lavonia, GA. I just called a friend in the gun business who knows them. To answer the question under US firearms law most of that stuff is only available if you have a manufacturers license or class III ffl.

Thanks for your efforts  

So with one of these licenses your allowed to own military Grenade Launcher’s and Mortars? I’m not actually sure he owned the Mortar, but he does say in one of the videos he actually owned a couple of M72’s !!

I’m sure there are extremely stringent background checks, but I cannot for the life of me work out why any country would want their citizens to own a Grenade Launcher! – Well in saying that, I remember someone stole an Abrams tank once, so I guess it would have been useful for self-defence then then. Or you could perhaps tenderise whatever your hunting at the same time as killing it….


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6104 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10126 times:
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Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 6):
So with one of these licenses your allowed to own military Grenade Launcher’s and Mortars?


You may not need any license for a mortar, depending on age. There are a fair number of people who own old artillery pieces and mortars. A friend of mine is going to a shoot for them on the 20th of May. I once saw a HUGE civil war era cannon being towed on a trailer behind a pickup truck, on I-75, in northern Michigan. I saw the guy pulling into a rest area and I pulled in too, so I could look at it. I chatted with the guy who told me all about the big cannon shooting even he had just come from.

I have a grenade launcher on my Yugoslavian SKS riffle. I have used it to shoot dummy grenades in a field. It is a lot of fun, but you have to tie a ribbon on the things or you won't be able to find them.

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 6):
why any country would want their citizens to own a Grenade Launcher!


Why not? If the government doesn't trust me to own such a thing I can't trust the government to not use theirs on me one day.

Owning the launcher is one thing, but own the grenades is another thing all together and very different laws apply.

A few years ago I saw some WWII German FLAK cannons for sale, in the US. They were $12,000 each and looked functional. Finding shells for that would probably be impossible and if you shot the thing off, anywhere other than an artillery shoot, would draw a lot of unwanted attention.

A buddy of mine has a 1960s British Army armoured personnel carrier with a big cannon on the roof. I think that it is great that in some parts of the world you couldn't own such a thing, but I live in a country free enough that one only needs the money to buy such an item.



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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 10048 times:

I love watching his videos because of the diverse weapons that he shows off. Its really neat for people who are interested in that stuff.

Who cares if his accent is fake, although its entertaining to hear "now thats what the ***** i am talking about" after shooting off some rounds.



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User currently offlinedanielmyatt From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 10037 times:

If that's a "minigun" what does a standard size one look like     

User currently offlinedl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9925 times:
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Hah..minigun simply refers to the type of electronic gatling type gun in calibers smaller than one inch.

You do need a transfer stamp to own any destructive device or class III weapon, ranging from a hand grenade to a 75mm mountain gun/howitzer. These firearms/destructive devices fall under different controls In terms of restricting their transfers to people who may to have the right to own firearms any more, or to different state laws restricting ownership (most of which are being challenged to various degrees).

In the US the question is not so much "why do you need that" (outside of some cities and states dominated by the political left who fear firearms more than they fear people, and believe that telling criminals that they can't own firearms will prevent them from getting them, but that's another thread entirely) but "isthere a reason you cannot own this implement?".

Automatic weapons (I.e.machine guns), short barreled rifles, silencers and destructive devices (grenades, rocket launchers, howitzers) are all restricted for transfer between parties by a coup,e of different laws, and require a transfer approval with a tax paid for any ownership transfer. Law enforcement at the federal and state level have to show reason why you cannot own something. Again, some states or municipalities have further restrictions.

You can buy a tank...but the breech block for the main gun is a registered part and requires a transfer stamp. Ammo would have to be made. There really haven't been any tanks released with main guns intact for a long time. Howitzers and other guns are out there, and ammo (also controlled depending on its size). You can get a grenade launcher and grenades.....using them becomes the problem. You kinda have to go out in the country to do this...like these guys.

Hope that helps.



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