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Woman Dies Trying To Live Off Sunlight Alone....  
User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2824 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...ht-live-sunlight-article-1.1067359

Seriously how can people in this day and age be so stupid ?


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User currently offlinevegetables2001 From UK - England, joined Mar 2012, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Idiot


Gotta love Darwin.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5946 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1910 times:
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It happened last week. And, according to the news piece I read, about 6 people have died doing the same thing since the 90s.


MGGS
User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5251 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

Quoting alberchico (Thread starter):
Seriously how can people in this day and age be so stupid ?

I believe Forrest Gump covered that.....

(Do I really have to say it....... ?)

Tugg



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Quoting vegetables2001 (Reply 1):
Gotta love Darwin.

Darwin only applies if she didn't have kids.


User currently offlineairportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3450 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):

This is news to me...I was under the assumption that it applied to anyone who went against obvious common sense...and was "offed" as a result

Miriam-Webster defines 'natural selection' as:
a natural process that results in the survival and reproductive success of individuals or groups best adjusted to their environment and that leads to the perpetuation of genetic qualities best suited to that particular environment

So one could interpret that as: you die as a result of poor genetic qualities, and were not able to reproduce offspring that would have otherwise been weak...

just my .02, curiosity, etc...



hit it and quit it
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 5):
This is news to me...I was under the assumption that it applied to anyone who went against obvious common sense...and was "offed" as a result

Right. So if she already had kids, the genes got passed on. It's up to them to off themselves with idiocy before THEY reproduce.

"YOU! Out of the gene pool!"


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21097 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Now, I'm not a doctor, but it is my understanding that if you try and survive off of sunlight, you're not feeling fine one moment and dead the next - there is quite a degradation process. With that in mind, did nobody know that this woman was obviously dying and decide to get her to a hospital?

-Mir



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5946 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
With that in mind, did nobody know that this woman was obviously dying and decide to get her to a hospital?

She had grown up children. They did everything they could to get her to eat. She refused. This was in Switzerland so I take it would be agains te law to force feed someone, so, she died.



MGGS
User currently onlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13800 posts, RR: 63
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
Now, I'm not a doctor, but it is my understanding that if you try and survive off of sunlight, you're not feeling fine one moment and dead the next - there is quite a degradation process. With that in mind, did nobody know that this woman was obviously dying and decide to get her to a hospital?

-Mir

Unless you developed a green skin (due to chlorophyl content) and therefore received the ability to convert CO2 and H2O into sugars, no chance. This means she effectively had to turn into a plant.
It also depends if she still drank water (where else does the H2O come from, which the plants need?).
And don´t forget all the minerals plants receive from the soil...

Jan


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21097 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 8):
She had grown up children. They did everything they could to get her to eat. She refused. This was in Switzerland so I take it would be agains te law to force feed someone, so, she died.

Eventually she's going to pass out, though, and at that point doesn't it go from an issue of force-feeding someone to an issue of giving someone life-saving medical attention?

-Mir



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5429 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

Quoting alberchico (Thread starter):
Seriously how can people in this day and age be so stupid ?

Natural variations in the gene pool. Believe it or not, there is no set order to how things should work. The universe is chaotic, and in that chaos the most lucky survive.

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 5):
So one could interpret that as: you die as a result of poor genetic qualities, and were not able to reproduce offspring that would have otherwise been weak...

That's not "natural selections", that's eugenics. Words like "strong" and "weak" can only be applied after the fact and with bias. You may be "deficient" relative to the populace in one area, but "strong" in another. It all depends on your environment.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5946 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1677 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
and at that point doesn't it go from an issue of force-feeding someone to an issue of giving someone life-saving medical attention?

I don´t know. This was Switzerland and you know how they are over there, in those more "advanced" countries regarding those issues. I´m not a lawyer either, but I believe that what you say applies only if the person had been on an accident, or at least passed out due to causes outside her control. Stupidity, although debatable, still is under your control. So, if she had specifically given instructions not to be fed, I´m not sure wether it could have been done legally, even if she passed out.

In any case, I do believe she was a nut-case, and put her loved ones through an unnecessary ordeal.

If it had been my mother, I would have fed her even if it meant doing it like geese are fed for paté. But then again, I suppose I´m not that advanced.

[Edited 2012-04-30 22:00:17]


MGGS
User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1707 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Poor woman.. but you would have to be pretty stupid to not realise that you need to eat and drink for your internal organs to function. This is what religion does to people!


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5599 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Quoting vegetables2001 (Reply 1):
Gotta love Darwin.

Gotta love Darwin Award. She certainly is a serious contender for this year.


User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1569 times:

To me, this person had some serious mental health/psychological issues, perhaps premature dementia as well. This was further compounded by the policy for many years of great difficulty in getting persons committed to a psychiatric hospital without their consent making it near impossible to do so to protect themselves.

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 11):
Natural variations in the gene pool.

Hardly, ARTIFICIAL variations in the gene pool.

Example:
Mom has a baby and completely neglects the baby (which could suggest a genetic defect in behavior).

10,000 years ago: baby dies.
Today: baby removed from home by CPS and raised by foster/adoptive parents.

I could go into further examples, but you can connect the dots.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
Eventually she's going to pass out, though, and at that point doesn't it go from an issue of force-feeding someone to an issue of giving someone life-saving medical attention?

There's a term from my EMT training: implied consent.

Really, unless she had it all legal and proper like with a DNR order in place, I don't see why her children didn't get her medical attention after she passed out.



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3613 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Darwin only applies if she didn't have kids.

And she was 50, so Darwin was a bit late.

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 11):
You may be "deficient" relative to the populace in one area, but "strong" in another.

She would have been 'strong' in the plant populace...

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
Hardly, ARTIFICIAL variations in the gene pool.

Mostly degenarative variations, actually. We allow 'bad' genes into the pool.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
I could go into further examples, but you can connect the dots.

Another simple example is eyesight.
A proportion of the population has degraded eyesight (me included). A caveman born with bad eyesight would never have been able to hunt or be a useful member of his community. He wouldn't have mated and the gene mutation would have died with him (it's still valis for animals). But ever since we invented the refractive lens, it stopped being a handicap and suddenly even us foureyes managed to mate and pass on that gene to our unsuspecting offspring...



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6661 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

Total Darwin award candidate.

Next....


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1348 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 18):
Another simple example is eyesight.
A proportion of the population has degraded eyesight (me included). A caveman born with bad eyesight would never have been able to hunt or be a useful member of his community. He wouldn't have mated and the gene mutation would have died with him (it's still valis for animals). But ever since we invented the refractive lens, it stopped being a handicap and suddenly even us foureyes managed to mate and pass on that gene to our unsuspecting offspring...

Arguably, might not be as genetic as you think. It may be that the fact that we make kids do a lot more reading these days than we did 50 or 100 years ago could have something to do with it. If their eyes are always focused on a book/screen 50cm from their face, it's not surprising that nearsightedness is so common.


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

How stupid can you be?

I've been to Switzerland, It's never bloody sunny there  

Seriously though, this woman was probably in need of some psychiatric help. That's nuts.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
Arguably, might not be as genetic as you think. It may be that the fact that we make kids do a lot more reading these days than we did 50 or 100 years ago could have something to do with it. If their eyes are always focused on a book/screen 50cm from their face, it's not surprising that nearsightedness is so common.

Indeed. I've been using a computer 17 of my 19 years on this planet (I'm an avid reader too) and guess what.... I'm short sighted. -1.50 in my left and -1.25 in my right. Same with my dad - ex computer programmer, horrifically short sighted.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 21):
Indeed. I've been using a computer 17 of my 19 years on this planet (I'm an avid reader too) and guess what.... I'm short sighted. -1.50 in my left and -1.25 in my right. Same with my dad - ex computer programmer, horrifically short sighted.

Actually, "near-sighted". Short-sighted has a whole lot negativeness to it.  



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 22):
Actually, "near-sighted". Short-sighted has a whole lot negativeness to it.

The term in the UK is actually short-sighted, but I can see your point. 

We should agree on the fact I have Myopia instead.  


User currently offlineallrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 1869 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 9):
nless you developed a green skin (due to chlorophyl content) and therefore received the ability to convert CO2 and H2O into sugars, no chance.

Confusion between being in a vegetative state and a vegetation state?

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 15):
To me, this person had some serious mental health/psychological issues, perhaps premature dementia as well.

Yes.



Applying insanity to normality
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 25, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 9):

Unless you developed a green skin (due to chlorophyl content) and therefore received the ability to convert CO2 and H2O into sugars, no chance.

Even if you did somehow develop chloroplasts in your skin, it wouldn't help much.

Consider your average tree:
http://www.astwood-herefordshire.co.uk/wildlife/chequers_tree_full.jpg

Look at the surface area of that tree given over to photosynthesis. Enormous. Now, consider the actual VOLUME occupied by the solid portions of the plant (i.e. if you were to crush the whole thing down, as opposed to its full expanded volume). It's actually pretty small. A tree like the one pictured might weigh a couple of hundred kg at most but would have the photosynthetic surface area of something like a tennis court or two. Now, a tree has pretty low metabolic needs. Basically, it needs to maintain cellular functions, it needs to use osmotic forces to move fluids around, and it needs to grow.

Now, consider a human being:


The surface area wouldn't be enough to wallpaper a phone booth. The mass, however, is about 50kg. In addition, mammals have HUGE metabolic demands. Not only do we need to move around, walk, talk, and think (some of us, anyway), but we also have to maintain a constant internal temperature, maintain cellular functions, pump blood, breathe, eat, digest, excrete, etc. The basal metabolic rate for the man pictured is on the order of 1,800 Kcal/day, and that's before he starts to walk around, do his daily workout, pose for swimsuit pics, stand in cold water, etc.

Now, the tree produces more oxygen in a day than the man breathes, meaning that the tree is producing more glucose than the man is burning. That said, the tree has VASTLY larger surface area. So even if the man were completely green, it wouldn't support his metabolic demands. Maybe just a few percent.


User currently offlinekaphias From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 25):
Not only do we need to move around, walk, talk, and think (some of us, anyway),

Based on that, this woman might have had a chance at making it work for her...



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 27, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1303 times:

Quoting kaphias (Reply 26):
Based on that, this woman might have had a chance at making it work for her...

   Good point. I'm sure she probably lasted longer than others.  


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5946 posts, RR: 30
Reply 28, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1293 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 25):
Now, consider a human being:

And why, why did you have to post that picture? I have to work tomorrow, you know. It´s gonna be one sleepless night now.



MGGS
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 29, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 28):
And why, why did you have to post that picture?

  

I...dunnooo...

Quoting AR385 (Reply 28):
It´s gonna be one sleepless night now.

Remember to switch hands from time to time.   


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5946 posts, RR: 30
Reply 30, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1267 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 29):
Remember to switch hands from time to time.

Oh no. I´m going out now.



MGGS
User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2824 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 30):
Remember to switch hands from time to time.  

        



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8741 posts, RR: 28
Reply 32, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

The best in the whole article is the link to "want to lose weight - do the math"

I am sure this is unvoluntary, but still, comic at its best.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 9):
This means she effectively had to turn into a plant.

Agreedm she must have been a vegetable in her final hours....

 



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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2557 posts, RR: 1
Reply 33, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1045 times:

What the Doc was actuallysaying in Reply #25:

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla

Now consider a human being:

PHOTO


bla bla bla



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18699 posts, RR: 58
Reply 34, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 33):
What the Doc was actuallysaying in Reply #25:

   Got it in one!


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