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Kindle: Keyboard Or Touchscreen?  
User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12710 posts, RR: 25
Posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

I'm planning to get a Kindle to read both books I download and read for pleasure, and PDFs that are technical documents that I find myself reading for work.

I've eliminated the Fire: I don't want to watch movies, and color draws down the battery too fast.

I've put hands on the touchscreen Kindle at the local BestBuy (subject of my post on the Circuit City thread) and found that touchscreen really made it easy to use when reading, but one reason I like PDF for technical documents is that I can use the search function to find things, and I dislike typing into touch screens in general and found that Kindle's on-screen keyboard was pretty hard to use.

Unfortunately BB didn't have a keyboard model available, so I don't know if it is any good or not.

From what I see of it on-line, the keyboard doesn't look all that great, but it seems I dislike virtual keyboards so much and need a real keyboard enough to tip the balance in favor of the keyboard model.

Comments?


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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1597 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

I actually found that on the Kindle Keyboard (when I used it, it was known as the Kindle 3G+wifi), the keys were too small for me to use, and typing was a pain. On my Kindle Touch, the keys on the touchscreen are shaped differently, and typing is much easier. There was also an update released for the Touch that makes it run much better, and I can easily get 3 weeks to a month between battery charges, depending on wifi/3G/reading light usage.

Marc


User currently offlinefridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2326 times:
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Revelation,

Since you want to read PDF's, I'm assuming you're considering the larger Kindle DX with the 9.7 inch screen? If not, may I suggest you do. It's primary reason for being was for students to use in class and to read files, especially PDF files. That's the way Amazon advertised it just before it was delivered. Yes, it's more expensive, but IMHO, it's worth it. I use mine just for reading and I love it. Don't know how I ever lived without it!

The keyboard at the bottom of the reader is the same as in the smaller Kindles, maybe a little more spaced out. I gave one to my niece who is a full time university student and she's pretty fast with the keyboard She's got long fingers and just uses her thumbs. So it's just a question of the lesser of two evils.

Good luck and let us know which one you choose!

Cheers,

F



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User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Revelation;

I don't have any experience with any Kindles except for the "Fire"; I bought one for my fiancee' last Thanksgiving; (how long ago is that? ) She hasn't laid the thing down yet ! Believe me, the "Fire" is a VERY "useful" gadget; (for dozens of things other than just reading books) Hell, only 2 months before, I had bought her a new 17 inch Dell laptop; (paid a "grand" for the thing; she LOVED it; (until she got the "Fire"  Now the laptop sits around gathering dust; when she goes out of town, we always communicate by email; (I despise to talk on a phone, unless the house is on fire) The Fire does EVERYTHING ! Ad it fits in a small purse, (or a large pocket) I got the Fire just as they "came out"; got it at Best Buy; paid $100 for it because we also bought a Verizon portable "hot spot" ; this is something I don't recommend to most people; (it all depends on what you do, where you live, etc etc etc.) The Fire always finds a 4-G signal in towns of any size; so I really think paying for a $50/ month contract (for us) is "for the birds", but she insists she "needs" it; (who am I to argue ?)

About the keyboard; yeah, we all know now that "most" a.netters don't "need" / "like" to use a stylus; everyone to their own thing I always say! But if you have a Fire, (or any other device with a small, "virtual" keyboard, you NEED a stylus !
My fiancee' types faster than many people can talk; (she ALWAYS uses a stylus !) (And she has typical, slender female fingers  (with long fingernails)

As for battery life.................the Fire has GREAT battery life; I have no idea how it compares to non-color Kindles; they may run for a month for all I know; but the Fire goes for a LONG time on a charge! Actually, trying to compare the Fire with an ordinary e-reader Kindle is like comparing an ordinary old cell phone to a new "smart phone"; obviously, smart phones cost more; obviously, they DO much more ! So they're really "not the same thing".........(but you can talk to other people on either one of them) I'm going to buy a Fire for myself, mainly to read books with, but I also want the other features it offers; it has a very nice color display; even so, I am probably going to also buy an iPad at some point; but for a totally different purpose..........they have a much bigger display, and will be much better for another "use" I have in mind. It's all about what you "like", and what you want to do; (but don't pass on the Fire because it lacks battery life; it has great battery life, and recharges quickly; (and does many things that "other" Kindles don't do.)

Charley



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1597 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 3):
I have no idea how it compares to non-color Kindles; they may run for a month for all I know; but the Fire goes for a LONG time on a charge!

I get about 3 weeks to a month out of a charge on my Kindle Touch, depending on how often I'm connected to wifi/3G, how much I download, etc. If you travel a lot, I would not suggest the kindle fire.

From the Kindle Fire page on Amazon:

Quote:
Up to 8 hours of continuous reading or 7.5 hours of video playback, with wireless off. Battery life will vary based on wireless usage, such as web browsing and downloading content.

Now, the Kindle Touch, what I have,

Quote:
A single charge lasts up to two months with wireless off based upon a half-hour of daily reading time. Keep wireless always on and it lasts for up to 3 weeks. Battery life will vary based on wireless usage, such as shopping the Kindle Store, downloading content, and web browsing (browsing available only in Wi-Fi mode).

So I'm not even getting full life out of mine, but it still lasts a really long time. The keyboard is touchscreen, but it's not like I'm typing a dissertation on it. Maybe I'm typing a note on a passage in a book I like, or typing search terms in the Kindle Store, but that's it.

Marc


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

A case should be made for the low-end non-touch Kindle. If you can find a refurbished one "with special offers," your price will be something like $60. Practically disposable.


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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12710 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

I went with my gut mostly due to my dislike of touch screens and ordered a Kindle Keyboard.

For mission A, pleasure reading, it is better than I hoped for. It's light, the form factor is perfect, the screen is easy to read, there is plenty of on-line titles of interest, and Amazon lets you read the first chapter of most titles for free before you buy the title.

I like it so much, I actually put down a hardcover book I was reading and bought the e-book! I got sick of wrestling with the big heavy book especially when reading in bed, so that book is history.

The feature that goes without mentioning is the ability to change font sizes. My eyesight was never great and is declining with age, but I'm not ready for the large type books yet. E-books are the way to go!

All in all, the gadget has more than doubled my enjoyment of reading.

Quoting fridgmus (Reply 2):
Since you want to read PDF's, I'm assuming you're considering the larger Kindle DX with the 9.7 inch screen? I

This might be the thing to do for Mission B, technical documents.

I hadn't considered it initially due to its cost (>2x the one I did buy).

When getting into that cost realm, it might not be a big leap to get an android or ipad tablet instead?

I haven't tried PDFs yet on the unit I did buy. I'll see how that goes some time soon.

I could always order the DX and send it back if I don't like it, but I suspect I won't like the DX as much as the KK for pleasure reading, since it is larger and heavier than the KK.

Right now the KK seems perfect for pleasure reading.

Quoting geezer (Reply 3):
About the keyboard; yeah, we all know now that "most" a.netters don't "need" / "like" to use a stylus; everyone to their own thing I always say! But if you have a Fire, (or any other device with a small, "virtual" keyboard, you NEED a stylus !

Good point. If I end up with a virtual keyboard, that's what I will do.

I have a smartphone with a touch screen and I'm not liking the touch screen aspect of it, but everything else is good.

The problem is that a real keyboard for the smart phone (either slide-out or external) is just a step in the wrong direction.

The touch screen is a bad solution, but keyboard solutions are worse...



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User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

P.S. The ONLY reason I mentioned styluses.............if you try to buy one at a computer store, a Brookstone Store.......they want like 20 bucks for the things ! (Which is INSANE !) My fiancee' is "bad" about losing stuff..........(I can generally find 2 or 3 styluses under the love seat ); my only point about styluses is, get 'em CHEAP ! ( on eBay, from China, 8 of them for $ 4, and free shipping ! )

Charley

P.S. I totally agree, reading books with a Kindle IS the only way to go, it has so many advantages; for me though, there IS one drawback; I'm gonna have to completely change my way of "doing things".............such as buying books; if I see a new book that just came out, I'll pay the price and get it at Books-A-Million; but more often than not, I get books at Good Will, outlet store for 50 cents a pound; I have THOUSANDS of books........the place looks like the Library of Congress !



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