MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10346 posts, RR: 40 Posted (1 year 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
I know it could happen to anyone, it's easy for a harassed parent to do this, but being the British PM the man has loads of lackeys. You would have thought one of his minders would have noticed.
David Cameron's daughter Nancy left behind at pub
David Cameron and his wife, Samantha, left their eight-year-old daughter, Nancy, in a pub after having Sunday lunch, Downing Street has confirmed.
Hywel From Peru, joined Apr 2008, 722 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1550 times:
Quote: As they went to leave, Nancy went off to the toilet without telling them.
The Prime Minister was driven back to Chequers, which is two miles from the pub, with protection officers in one car, while Mrs Cameron drove their other children in another.
Mr Cameron presumed that Nancy was in the car with his wife, while she thought that their daughter had jumped in with the Prime Minister.
For goodness sake leave them alone - it was a genuine mistake! Parents are NOT perfect, and they're not meant to be!
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10346 posts, RR: 40 Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1456 times:
Quoting luv2fly (Reply 5): I agree each parent thought the other one had handled it.
If I had a young child I'd keep my eye on them at all times especially when out and about and if I was leaving I would make sure they were with me and if they weren't I wouldn't just assume that they are with the mother, assumptions aren't good enough and don't stop bad things from happening. They both made the same assumption, so bad parenting x2.
They left it far too long to find out whether or not the other person had their daughter, I'd have immediately contacted the other person to find out before even leaving.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6189 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1421 times:
Quoting Hywel (Reply 4): Mr Cameron presumed that Nancy was in the car with his wife, while she thought that their daughter had jumped in with the Prime Minister.
This type thing has happened to EVERY set of parents at one time or another.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7): If I had a young child I'd keep my eye on them at all times especially when out and about and if I was leaving I would make sure they were with me and if they weren't I wouldn't just assume that they are with the mother,
But you apparently don't have a child. And while your statement is true, and something all new parents say - the reality is that if you have more than one child and two forms of transportation - the likelyhood you will 'lose' one at some point is almost 100%.
Quoting Hywel (Reply 4): Nancy went off to the toilet without telling them.
My father left my sister at a restaurant at 4 am back in 1962 - same reason. He went in for a cup of coffee, and she went to the restroom without telling anyone. He was five miles down the road before my mom woke up - and could only count five kids in the back seat.
I've lost track of my son in a store when he was 'supposed to be' with his mom.
The part of the story which is more frightening to me is that the security detail of the PM could lose track of one of their charges.
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Another note to folks who are not from the UK - we Americans would presume that the PM and his wife were out drinking for an evening, and lost track of the kid due to lack of concentration after partying.
Pubs in the UK can be more like a Chili's or TGIF or Applebees - a restaurant with a good bar.
Have the pub not thought of contacting the NSPCC Helpline
If you have concerns about a child's safety and wellbeing, including a child in your family, you can use this form to tell the NSPCC Helpline. One of our advisors will read it within 24 hours and decide what action needs to be taken.
Bongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3045 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1361 times:
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 10): Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
If I had a young child I'd keep my eye on them at all times especially when out and about and if I was leaving I would make sure they were with me and if they weren't I wouldn't just assume that they are with the mother,
But you apparently don't have a child. And while your statement is true, and something all new parents say - the reality is that if you have more than one child and two forms of transportation - the likelyhood you will 'lose' one at some point is almost 100%.
Personal experience tells me that children are as slippery as eels, I've come close to losing my daughter in shops on a number of occasions, she's a few months older than David Cameron's daughter so I probably have some idea of the situation. There are two trains of thought when it comes to handling young children, some never let them out of their sight, accompany them to the toilet, deliver them by car everywhere etc. Others take the view that independence is a good thing and 8 year olds (and a lot younger) can take themselves to the toilet, walk to the village shop, walk round to their friends. My guess is that the Cameron's fall into the latter.
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 10): The part of the story which is more frightening to me is that the security detail of the PM could lose track of one of their charges.
In the UK we provide little if any protection to anyone other than senior members of the Royal family and politicians, I would doubt that the Cameron's children are on the list.
luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1343 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 14): “It’s frightening the Prime Minister of Britain can forget something so important as his own daughter.”
What is frighting, is that people don't allow him to be human just like the rest of us. Last time I looked none of us are walking on water at the moment.
stealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5448 posts, RR: 48 Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1343 times:
Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 15): In the UK we provide little if any protection to anyone other than senior members of the Royal family and politicians, I would doubt that the Cameron's children are on the list.
Actually that concerns me, I am not a big fan of the overkill level of security the USA indulges in for the POTUS and other officials but I would think at this period in history the security detail assigned to the head of govt of one of the highest terror targets(arguably the 2nd) would at least have a watching brief over where the children of those leaders were.
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
GBLKD From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 345 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1335 times:
My son has never wandered off when we're out, I always know where he is. My wife on the other hand, blink and she's gone. It doesn't help that she's only 5ft tall so can pretty much disappear behind any display in any shop.
Delboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 713 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1329 times:
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 10): This type thing has happened to EVERY set of parents at one time or another.
You are talking absolute drivel, this has never happened to me, any relatives or anyone else I know who has had children and we are now talking about many hundreds of couples now.
To leave a laptop containing vital security information on it in the pub is careless, to leave a child there is indefensible.
U2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 304 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1301 times:
Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 13): So he's a moron in charge of the country, and he can't even coordinate with his wife where his children are? And people voted for this buffoon?
Yeah, because Ed Milliband is a great alternative? That buffoon can't even speak in a coherent manner, let alone run a country.
Note, I don't think Cameron is a particularly great leader, but he's certainly better than the alternative.
As for leaving is daughter in a pub. It's a non-event, there certainly isn't a link between it and his ability to run a country. An innocent mistake, over-dramaticised by the hopelessly left wing BBC.
ajd1992 From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 2645 posts, RR: 6 Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
Quoting U2380 (Reply 20): Yeah, because Ed Milliband is a great alternative? That buffoon can't even speak in a coherent manner, let alone run a country.
I didn't say he was - and anyway, why assume I'm a labour supporter? Cameron has f*cked everybody from Lands End to John O'Groats as well, and while Labour wasn't brilliant it was a lot better under Labour than Tory.
U2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 304 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1252 times:
Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 22): I didn't say he was - and anyway, why assume I'm a labour supporter?
I didn't assume you were a Labour supporter. If you don't have Cameron you have Miliband, there is no viable alternative.
Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 22): and while Labour wasn't brilliant it was a lot better under Labour than Tory.
Yeah, they were brilliant. Leading us into illegal and unnecessary wars, giving away power/authority to the EU without holding a referendum, bowing to the every whim of the trade unions and racking up great quantities of debt in the process.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12735 posts, RR: 79 Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1212 times:
Quoting U2380 (Reply 20): As for leaving is daughter in a pub. It's a non-event, there certainly isn't a link between it and his ability to run a country. An innocent mistake, over-dramaticised by the hopelessly left wing BBC.
Erm, the only banner headlines was on The Sun, didn't see the Mail but it'll be very a prominent story, apparently it was on their website.
The Guardian had it as a small story buried inside.
So the theories (paranoia's?) of the likes of Richard Littlejohn, the Murdoch press, don't really hold up, do they?
God knows why anyone not with a stake in Murdoch or the Mail would take their ravings seriously?
Which is where this anti BBC stuff has always come from, in particular, that nice Mr Murdoch and his squeaky clean, not at all deceptive, criminal organisation? Why still lap their shit up?
I don't like Cameron, politics aside it's fairly well known he's not nice to his subordinates, any awkward question in the Commons, not always from the Opposition either, he goes red faced and get's very personal.
But - I don't condemn him or his wife for this lapse, I do believe it when they say they were distraught.
There is a question however about the Personal Protection Officers.
Though we don't want to go down the path of excessive security.
Even though times have changed, in the 1960's PM Harold Wilson would introduce his (single) PPO as this is Fred, his job is to shoot the man who shoots me!
25 gingersnap: Nope. Never happened to me in my years as a parent.
26 Maverick623: Count me among those that can disprove this. While I am not a parent, my parents have never unintentionally left me or my sisters behind, anywhere.
27 U2380: Oh believe me, I don't take any of the Murdoch empires publications seriously, the vast majority of their articles are absolute rubbish written for t
28 kiwiandrew: Did they ever do it intentionally ?
30 gemuser: Not applicable in New Zealand! Gemuser
31 GDB: Maybe a better word is tries . I saw the coverage of this story on the BBC, it was 'a' headline, now the headline. And the coverage, if you count peo
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