2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6798 times:
Limitations on Long Beach Airport's slots. Though the policy was made when low bypass JT8D engines where common place on short to mid range airliners, planes are now quieter so the question should be brought up once the new terminal is completed.
Possible cancellation of the California high speed train.
For more of the wish list...
MD-12 double decker
DC-XX/11 twin jet
747-300 trijet / twinjet?
and of course the 2707, the one with the canard and swing wings
"And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by." John Masefield Sea-Fever
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6786 times:
The destruction of the original Pennsylvania Station in NY City. I never got to see it, only the mess left underground.
The lack of real high-speed trains in the USA. I have been on 300 Kms trains in France in 1997 and like trains here would really make it easier to get around certain areas of the USA.
The post-9/11 security extremes at airports.
Almost no domestic 'widebody' flights. Ah, for the days when EWR-LAX was on a DC-10, 747 or maybe a 767, not a 737.
Never able to fly on the Concorde.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6769 times:
Government mandated CAFE laws!
Mount Lowe Railway not being maintained and/or rebuild.
San Francisco MUNI train service being so unreliable.
BART being so expensive.
CTA bus fare increase.
Newer buses that no longer allow passengers to open the windows.
Chicago mayor Richard Daly destroying Meigs Field.
San Francisco decommissioning Crissy Field
Closing of Kai Tak
Destruction of I-480 Embarcadero freeway by local grandstanding politicians
Destruction of the US-101 Central freeway to 'save the environment' (make room for expensive condos).
San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge new eastern span being made in China instead of Gary, Indiana like the original eastern span.
Neglect and refusal to repave the Angeles Forest Highway beyond Red Box (Mt. Wilson junction).
Perpetual construction-roadwork in the Chicago metro area yet potholes remain.
The Mizar car/plane (flying Ford Pinto) not being successful.
747-stretch not being build.
TU-144 not being reliable
Boeing 2707SST not being build
No US airliner buying the A340, A380 and 747-8I
Midwest Airlines going under
Delta taking over Northwest.
Olympic Airways going under
Twins such as the 777 and A330 replacing majestic 4-engine 747s and A340s in some airline fleets.
Lincoln not building the 2004 Continental concept.
General Motors discontinuing the b-body sedans & wagons after 1996.
Chrysler's 2.2 liter turbo engine
Oldsmobile's gas to diesel conversion
Cadillac's 4/6/8 V8 from 1981
California High Speed Rail boondoggle
Cash for clunkers program
SmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1632 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6736 times:
My disappointments or missed opportunities in transport:
-Never having the opportunity to fly Pan Am (I always wanted, when I was a wee lad, to fly on their 747s)
-Never having flown on the L-1011 (my 2nd favourite after the 747)
-Never having flown on an Aer Lingus 747 (I am Irish, and loved the image of a green 747)
-Not yet had the opportunity to take flying lessons (I still plan to, someday...)
-Not having started flying commercially earlier than 1993 when I was 18
-Not having visited the new IND terminal (IND was my first airport I flew out of, in 1993)
-Not having yet been in the new LHR Terminal 5 (I lived in London 3 years, whilst T5 was being built)
-Not having experienced a flight on Concorde
-Not having yet had the opportunity to fly on the A380 (but I still have plenty of time to get on one)
-Never had the opportunity to fly on a Soviet built airliner (although I enjoyed seeing TU-154s and IL-96s at LHR)
-In short, I was kind of born too late (1975) to experience flying most of the "classic" airliners in my lifetime, before the new wave of mostly twinjet airliners came
-The paranoid atmosphere and security theatre that now characterises the US airport experience
-The nickeling and diming, and lack of service, that now occur in US domestic air travel in Y (which is getting more cramped too)
-I really miss the full-sized station wagons (I grew up with a 1976 Buick Century wagon and a 1978 Chrysler LeBaron Town & Country)
-The proliferation of boring minivans and bloated SUVs that have replaced station wagons for family transport
-The proliferation of look-alike, forgettable sedans and other cars (imports as well as US cars trying to copy the imports)
-The jelly-bean aesthetic of today's cars
-The other extreme of automobile design: the trend to be as ugly as possible
-No more classy looking cars other than the rare Rolls Royce, Jaguar, etc.; nothing like the US full-size sedans and wagons before the mid-1990s/2000s
-Auto ownership becoming more and more economically unfeasible (higher purchase prices, higher gas prices, fees, repairs, rising insurance, etc) yet people not living in a handful of major US cities have to rely on cars and crowded infrastructure to get around
Other land transport:
-No extensive long-distance railways like those in Europe
-Amtrak tries its best (and I enjoyed my recent first Amtrak trip, on Pacific Surfliner), but cannot reach a lot of the USA
-San Francisco's poorly-maintained Muni bus and LRV system; Muni's poor reliability and on-time performance
-Most US cities are so car-dependent, and have little or no semblance of a public transport system; glaring exceptions are NYC, Chicago, and Boston
-European cities (I have lived in London, so I have experience) could teach US cities a LOT about efficient transport!
-Never having had the opportunity to sail on QE2, the last of the true great ocean liners
-Not having yet had the opportunity to cross the Atlantic on any ocean liner (once again, born too late for that)
-I hope to cross the Atlantic at least once on QM2 soon before I lose this opportunity forever
-Besides QM2, there is really no regular ocean crossing by ship, neither is it offered as a leisurely alternative to crowded airliners and jet lag
-As of yet, no teleportation
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
HOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3036 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6724 times:
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- Hardly any 727s, L-1011s, 707s, DC-8s, and DC-10s left that I can fly on as a passenger
- Whenever the "A" Train runs local
- Orion Buses ceasing production
- Retirement of Toronto's H4 subway trains and the impending retirement of the H5 and H6 cars that are being sold to Lagos, Nigeria
- Retirement of New York's R38 and R40 Slant subway trains
- Filthy, graffiti-laden interiors of MUNI buses. I'm by no means a resident of San Francisco so I can't really comment on its reliability over a longer period of time, but I've heard it's bad.
- Rude drivers and passengers on Miami-Dade Transit
- High fares on the London Underground especially when crossing into different zones
The biggest mistake made by most human beings: Listening to only half, understanding just a quarter and telling double.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6722 times:
Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 10): -European cities (I have lived in London, so I have experience) could teach US cities a LOT about efficient transport!
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 11): - High fares on the London Underground especially when crossing into different zones
SmithAir747, I hear what you're saying about European rail but as HOONS90 pointed out, it's very expensive. Even the San Francisco BART is more expensive than driving a large V8 powered SUV.
Granted the cost of gas is higher in Europe and I'm not sure if the US is willing to pay so much money to ride on a congested public train when they can drive in the comfort of their own Cadillac or Buick and not limited to just where the train tracks go.
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 11): - Filthy, graffiti-laden interiors of MUNI buses. I'm by no means a resident of San Francisco so I can't really comment on its reliability over a longer period of time, but I've heard it's bad.
Bad is an understatement. Unless you can afford a multi-million dollar condo downtown or in the picturesque hills on the northeast side of town, you need a car in San Francisco to get around. MUNI gives false hope. It's so slow an unreliable. At times it can be unsafe as well.
bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6704 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 7): San Francisco MUNI train service being so unreliable.
Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 10): San Francisco's poorly-maintained Muni bus and LRV system; Muni's poor reliability and on-time performance
Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 11): Filthy, graffiti-laden interiors of MUNI buses. I'm by no means a resident of San Francisco so I can't really comment on its reliability over a longer period of time, but I've heard it's bad.
I grew up in San Francisco in the 70's and 80's and moved out of the Bay Area in 1991. I see nothing has changed with MUNI after all these years.
The biggest disappointment is the lack of high speed passenger rail service in the USA.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6686 times:
Quoting bohica (Reply 14): I grew up in San Francisco in the 70's and 80's and moved out of the Bay Area in 1991. I see nothing has changed with MUNI after all these years.
At least back then, MUNI used the Boeing street cars that allowed you to open the window when a smelly hippy or homeless person gets on the train. The new Breta cars windows do not open so you're stuck with the bad odor.
You also had the Embarcadero and Central freeways too which allowed easier access in & out of the city. Now you're forced to sit in traffic at the street level and very expensive condominiums have gone up in it's place.
Quoting bohica (Reply 14): The biggest disappointment is the lack of high speed passenger rail service in the USA.
Thank the NIMBY's, environmentalist and corrupt, well connected political cronies for that.
I should ad the closing of the NUMMI GM plant, Ford Wixom plant and all other automotive factories in the US.
The loss of AMC, Packard, Studebaker, Stutz and Pierce Arrow.
af773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6659 times:
-minivans being replaced by crossover SUVs because they look "cooler"
-lack of station wagons in the USA
-discontinuation of the Mercury brand
-all the new cars look pretty much the same
-no high speed rail in the USA
-NIMBYs killing off some proposed commuter or light rail projects in Minneapolis
-Amtrak pretty much being a joke besides the Northeast, California, and a few other areas
-media constantly ripping on trains
-DL order of 787s being deferred to 2020
-no more 747 service by DL to MSP
-Champion Air ceasing operations when oil prices began to spike
They announced that they will retired them in 2015.
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 18): The fact that, except for 14 European jetliners that are all retired, average cruise speeds have not gone higher than mach .85 since the late 1950s!!!!!
That is very sad.
Not only that, these new modern twins coming out today can't even go as fast as the older subsonic aircraft such as the CV880. I think the 747 is the only aircraft left that can cruise at mach .92.
MIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2784 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6570 times:
Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 10): -Besides QM2, there is really no regular ocean crossing by ship, neither is it offered as a leisurely alternative to crowded airliners and jet lag
Most Cruise companies offer transatlantic crossings from Europe to the USA when their ships finish their European seasons.
they may not have the grandeur and pomp of the QE2 but if you just want to realise your atlantic crossing dream...
As for me.
A318 not being succesful, thus having frames being broken up (sad)
Not being able to fly on Concorde (at least I got to see it a few times in LHR)
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6517 times:
Amtrak is fine and I have no problem with the slow trains and lack of ridership and it's not a huge waste of money. I don't mind the subsidy. It's a very calm and relaxing way to travel as long as you're not in a rush. I don't mind the old interiors either. The seats are very comfortable as a result. On long distance trains, the seats recline and are on par with the old style first class seats on airplanes.
mad99 From Spain, joined Mar 2012, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6461 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 19): They announced that they will retired them in 2015.
I imagine the 'its paid for' only goes so far.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 19): I think the 747 is the only aircraft left that can cruise at mach .92.
I think your right. This is my biggest disappointment...
From mad to lax your travel time is like 24 hrs door to door. Remember the sonic cruser concept. I think it was going to slash travel times on long flights by like the above by like an hour...what's the point.
: Took a cruise on the Norway back in 1991. What a great ship. Loved flying into Meig's. Would have some lunch somewhere and then head back up to Palwa
: No more flying Concordes - turned into museum artifacts. No more flying Space Shuttles - turned into museum artifacts. QE2 sold to Dubai by Cunard/Car
: Lets not forget the HT-4100.... That thing was terrible. Especially those modern streetcars. If they ran PCC cars all over the line things would be f
: Not at all; It's just that the US and UK have not found a successful infrastructure model for a public / private hybrid. Many other countries have an
: How come nobody has mentioned airships? As great as the idea sounds, the track record is less than impressive. Almost all of them have ended up in bit
: Space: No clear direction on the future of manned US space flight. Retiring the Space Shuttles Discountinuing the Saturn 5 rocket. Johnson Space Cente
: Absolutely not. It is an essential service for many areas; an alternative to Greyhound (which is garbage) for cheap travel.
: In the US, not enough funding for high speed rail didn't going to the Northeast...where the service would get the most use out of anywhere else in the
: TWA going out of business Delta/Northwest merger lack of major crosstown/cross-borough NYC subway services
: San Francisco government officials protect those as the sacred cows of the the MUNI fleet. The rest of the fleet is neglected. Which is why I am comp
: What? The NEC is where the Acela is... the only true high-speed train in Amtrak's network.
: It only goes above 150MPH for short segments in Rhode Island and MA. Most of the time, the trains in the Northeast are stuck around 90 - 100 MPH in N
: It's still better than any other Amtrak set of routes; the fastest they get anywhere else is about 110MPH. 90-100 sounds like a dream...
: Nope! In terms of speed, yes but in terms of cool factor and experience, no way! The best is the Coast Starlight; Amtrak - Coast Starlight; Aerobalan
: Right. The Acela trainset is HS CAPABLE; it is not a true HSR service in today's form. DC-NYC is rough as guts, going at improved speed on a century
: Fokker's bankruptcy. Dornier's bankruptcy. The near-death of most Soviet plane manufacturers / design bureaux. Ryanair. (someone had to say it )
: How do you disappoint when there aren't any but the lowest expectations in the first place? [Edited 2012-06-19 10:38:31]
: Here is some more. LACMTA, retiring their Neoplan AN 122/3 Skyliners. The recent retirment of their RTS's and Cumming L10 powered AN 440 is disapoint
: Come here to Bangkok. Iran Air flies their 747-SP here to BKK. I got a photo 1 month ago. Since you like buses, you'd appreciate our durable Hino AK-
: I meant in speed. Amtrak LD trains are a totally different experience than Acela, often travelling through beautiful places. The only LD train I've d
: The Acela prices rival airfare. The only advantage is that you don't have to go through a full body cavity inspection prior to boarding. You don't ha
: Q3 was the wrong ship, it was a pure tranatlantic liner, liners were on there way out, Cunard realised this and built a truly innovative ship, had Q3
: Never heard of that before, so I googled it.. and what a nice looking bird. Pity it didn't get built. My own list includes : Retirement : L-1011, Con
: I also with the McDonald 119 was a more successful business jets. You can still fly on those.
: By the time I save up to do a trip, those planes will be long gone
: Would have loved to see a Convair 880 take off.. And pretty much any 1st gen straight pipe airliner. Or a XB-70, or B-36, or B-58... On land, I'd have
: That's not quite what they did... The SD90/43MAC always had the 710 engine in them. The "pure" SD90MAC(H) with the 265H block was only delivered to U
: Pretty interesting thread we have going on here, I'll echo some popular sentiments and add a few of my own... -The cancellation of the 757 program -BF
: Makes you wonder how a next gen 757 would perfrom against the 321NEO and the 737/900MAX
: I believe that monies spent on the Northeast corridor will get you most bang for the buck. There's already an established population that is used to
: - No high speed rail between the Texas Triangle. And the rail plan in place is horrible (transfer trains in Belton to get from Dallas to Houston?!?).
: Man, I drive school buses for a living, while I am working on my BA degree. It is a lot less streful than being in the Navy.
: Truly a huge disappointment. Heartbreaking.... as is the current state of the entire Lincoln brand. And the loss of the Pontiac brand - I am still in
: I will say it, before anybody else say something about it. Yes I forgot to proof read this, and I need to pay attention, to my spelling, and what I w
: OK, I've had it. Sweet reason has failed, so it's rant time WHERE IS MY JETSONS CAR??? We're supposed to be flying to space in 2001 and landing on the
: Yes, Pontiac did have some very nice car, right before demise. The G8 and Solstice, was very great RWD cars, that was beautiful cars, and should have
: I was too young to have an opportunity to fly on great aircraft such as the 727, classic 747, Concorde, 707, and DC-10. (I started flying as the DC-10
: Be careful. At least in the Navy you can shoot back. Being a bus driver can be very dangerous in some areas. In the 1960s, it was expected that jetli
: I don't know, but look at this guy, jetpack inventor (he called it flying backpack): http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2011/...pra-jetpack-inventor/#.T-
: We invented something called 'appetite for instant gain' instead? Hard SciFi writers are a hopelessly optimistic bunch... Right after the first jetpa
: No hoverboards! Biggest disappointment ever. That was criminal. Penn Station in New York is a total dump--feels like you are a rat in a maze. Provide
: Yes and no. While the mechanical and transportation innovations described in, say, the movie 2010 are optimistic, the computer predictions are actual
: Yes, but that is thanks to Coach USA with Mega Buses. Also, a lot of these China Buses on the US east coast, to New York and DC, has became popular.
: I've said it before, but it was pure true disappointment and bitterness,but it was important time for any California aviation spotter or enthusiasts t
: Before: After: Those pesky grandstanding politicians!
: Yep. I stand by my earlier statement. Your could still see the Ferry Building from various angles. Just not the angle in which that photo was taken f
: Of course, the freeway went nowhere useful. It should have connected to the GG Bridge.
: Are you kidding? North Beach? Chinatown? It cut down commute times to the Golden Gate Bridge as well as commute time to residence in the Marina, Paci
: Bus transit in American cities. It should all get its own lanes, or be replaced by rail. Or be eliminated.
: Pittsburgh International Airport as ghost town. Boeing over Lockheed in USA SST competition. (Because Lockheed's might have flown)
: They're not that bad. I drive up and down the Embarcadero every day, and I'd still rather have the freeway gone. It makes an enormous difference to t
: 2 minutes? More like 1 hour if there is a Giants game. Keep in mind, the new ballpark was not located in the SOMA when the Embarcadero freeway was ar
: As a visitor I thought it was a great way to see America and to appreciate the scale and variety of the country. When you're prepared for a long jour
: The ballpark being moved to SOMA was a dumb idea which would have been just as dumb if the Embarcadero Freeway was still there. That's a separate iss
: Agreed. What's even dumber is that city officials like to pretend that Candlestick Park doesn't exist. Millions of dollars was spent on the MUNI T-li
: Sick and tired and fed up of all the taxes we must pay on top of plane tickets. There seems to be a new tax being created every day especially here in
: Train fares could be cheaper. Without the Bahncard (50 % deduction on regular train fares), it makes sense to fly within Germany, or from Switzerland
: Amen brother. I don't understand how all these billions of people have to be busting our hump all the time given the technological progress that has