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User currently offlineFly777s From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 88 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

Forgive me if this subject has been broached recently as I haven't spent a whole lot of time on this forum in the past few months.

Due to my Facebook feed blowing up with more posts regarding Chick-fil-a's contributions to anti-gay organizations and how they should be boycotted, it made me wonder what major corporations are pro-gay, or at least gay friendly. Obviously JC Penny with Ellen DeGeneres as a spokesperson and how they handled the uproar from One Million Moms is a good example. Target and its sales of Gay Pride t-shirts is another example.

Honestly, I don't see what difference it makes to any corporation and why any corporation should feel the need to present itself as pro or anti gay. Corporations are in business to make money and that's it. I guess, however, when a corporation is threatened with a boycott or is cast in a negative spotlight said corporation must do what it takes to continue operating profitably and even go as far as to pander to the segment of society/demographics they deem will be more profitable.

Just curious..

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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9777 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2932 times:
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Quoting Fly777s (Thread starter):

Honestly, I don't see what difference it makes to any corporation and why any corporation should feel the need to present itself as pro or anti gay. Corporations are in business to make money and that's it. I guess, however, when a corporation is threatened with a boycott or is cast in a negative spotlight said corporation must do what it takes to continue operating profitably and even go as far as to pander to the segment of society/demographics they deem will be more profitable.

You asked and answered your own question.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

It's about which companies are actively pushing for discrimination and which ones push against it.

And an increasing number of people notice that kind of thing even if it's not themselves certain companies discriminate against.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/20/pf/j...est_companies_gay_rights/index.htm

Quote:
For the first time ever, all 100 firms on Fortune's Best Companies To Work For list this year have non-discrimination policies that include sexual orientation.
In 2008, 95 of the top 100 Best Companies to Work For had such policies in place, and by 2011 that number was up to 99.
"It's been gathering strength over the 15 years that we've done the survey," said Milton Moskowitz, a co-author of the list. Similar progress has been made in benefits for same-sex domestic partners, which are now offered by 89 of the 100 companies listed, up from 70 five years ago.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7824 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

I do believe Delta sponsored some Pride Parades in the past


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

Quoting Fly777s (Thread starter):
Honestly, I don't see what difference it makes to any corporation and why any corporation should feel the need to present itself as pro or anti gay.

It's marketing. Gay people have money. So do right wingers. All the money is green and companies, rightfully, want to get their hands on it.

Honestly if I were running a company I wouldn't stand for anything other than making money.



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User currently offlineFly777s From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4):
Honestly if I were running a company I wouldn't stand for anything other than making money.

My family has always been self employed and my father en-grained in me that you never involve your business in religion or politics. Your sole responsibility is to provide a product and make a profit from that service. I'm gay, but I never walk into a place of business and wonder if that business has a pro or anti gay stance. However, after last years controversy with JC Penny and One Million Mom's and now all the Chick-fil-a controversy I am more astute to it.


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2637 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4):
Gay people have money. So do right wingers.

Well there are people who belong to both those groups.

I am pro-Target, and always have been, mainly because I like their prices, selection, and corporate citizenship. I became even pro-er Target in the face of that asinine "Boycott Target Until They Stop Supporting Anti-Gay Politics" movement in the wake of the MN Forward issue. (For those outside the U.S. and anyone else who may not know, in 2010 Target Corporation (operator of 3 billion discount/variety/grocery/drugstore/sporting goods/electronics/clothing/toy stores in the U.S.) made a donation to a pro-business lobbying group in Minnesota called MN Forward. That group later endorsed Tom Emmer for Governor of Minnesota (Emmer lost that election in 2010 to Mark Dayton - whose family (tee hee hee) owns the Target Corporation). Tom Emmer is against gay marriage. This chain of events signified, to a fair quantity of boneheaded, liberal, reactive #!&*@wads, that Target was "anti-gay;" somehow ignoring the fact that Target has one of the strongest gay rights records of any company of its sort.)

I did a whoooooole lot of shopping at Target after that "boycott" was organized.

Ya know what's an evilly anti-gay company, is ExxonMobil.  



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2855 times:
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Quoting Airstud (Reply 6):
(operator of 3 billion discount/variety/grocery/drugstore/sporting goods/electronics/clothing/toy stores in the U.S.)

Wow! That's a lot of stores! What is that like 5 or 6 stores for every person in the US? Staffing must be a nightmare...  



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

Without a doubt,rather you chose to endorse it or not,the media,both inside the industry and out,which answers a lot about the political stances by the media.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4):
Honestly if I were running a company I wouldn't stand for anything other than making money.

   Couldn't agree more and I have been provoked/tested by several political positions or sports to keep my mouth shut and make money.

[Edited 2012-07-07 18:53:58]

[Edited 2012-07-07 18:54:27]


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User currently offlineFly777s From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 6):
I became even pro-er Target in the face of that asinine "Boycott Target Until They Stop Supporting Anti-Gay Politics" movement in the wake of the MN Forward issue.

I remember the hooplah over that. I actually had a friend (He was originally from MN if it made any difference) who didn't speak to me for a few weeks because I continued to shop at Target. It was either Target or Wal-mart at the time, so I chose Target... If any of your peruse peopleatwalmart dot com then you'll understand why..

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 8):
  Couldn't agree more and I have been provoked/tested by several political positions or sports to keep my mouth shut and make money.

It was religion, politics, AND sports that my dad says to never intertwine in business... Especially here with the big Auburn and University of Alabama rivalry - you'd definitely lose customers over which ever team your business endorsed.


User currently onlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2994 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

I've never had any reason to boycott a store. I'd be worried about their policies if I were to work in it however. As a customer, however, they want my money so whether they're pro/anti something, discrimination against a customer is not only illegal, it's not in their best interests.

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 7):
Quoting Airstud (Reply 6):
(operator of 3 billion discount/variety/grocery/drugstore/sporting goods/electronics/clothing/toy stores in the U.S.)

Wow! That's a lot of stores! What is that like 5 or 6 stores for every person in the US? Staffing must be a nightmare...

Then why is the jobless rate at 8.2%?   



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 6):
Well there are people who belong to both those groups.

Don't you read the other threads? Having anything to do with right wingers means you are a racist Christian fundamentalist who wants to rid America of anything gay, black, female, Hispanic, Asian, or non-Christian.



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User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

I will be the first to point out the irony that every Chick-Fil-A is closed on Sunday because of their founders deep Southern Baptist beliefs.

User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 11):
Quoting Airstud (Reply 6):
Well there are people who belong to both those groups.

Don't you read the other threads? Having anything to do with right wingers means you are a racist Christian fundamentalist who wants to rid America of anything gay, black, female, Hispanic, Asian, or non-Christian.

Huh? A little brutal,don't you think? You mean ultra liberals from that list right?Not liberal, moderate or conservative that also happens to roam planet earth.You also do know they're are conservative gays? So,stop stereotyping.



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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4476 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Back on topic, Oreo officially supported gay rights on their facebook page, as well. This sparked some to boycott Oreo, and by extention, all Kraft products. (good luck with that)

User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1113 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 12):
I will be the first to point out the irony that every Chick-Fil-A is closed on Sunday because of their founders deep Southern Baptist beliefs.

I ate at one of those sometimes when I was a student in the US. I remember reading on their „About Us“ placard on the table „...We weren't trying to make a point, we were just tired!“

But one of my former colleagues used to read it out „We weren't tryin' to make a point, we were just TIIIR'D“


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3385 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 12):
will be the first to point out the irony that every Chick-Fil-A is closed on Sunday because of their founders deep Southern Baptist beliefs.

How is that irony? They are keeping the Fourth Commandment.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19408 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

Both Google and Subway have made it clear that they support full equality world-wide.

Quoting Fly777s (Reply 5):
my father en-grained in me that you never involve your business in religion or politics.

Well said. However, I don't view having a pro-gay stance as being political; I view it as being personal. Then again, my husband and I are stuck in the middle of this.


User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 16):

How is that irony? They are keeping the Fourth Commandment.

Disregard my first post. I read the title of the thread that said "Pro-Gay" corporations, and then I misread the part where the OP said Chick-Fil-A donated to Anti-Gay organizations....I thought it said Chick-Fil-A donated to Pro-Gay organizations.


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3658 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 14):
Back on topic, Oreo officially supported gay rights on their facebook page, as well. This sparked some to boycott Oreo, and by extention, all Kraft products. (good luck with that)

Reminds me of those wanting to boycott Disney especially when they host Gay Days.



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2341 times:
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There should be no "Pro- Gay Corporation" just as there should be no pro-women, black, asian, native etc. organisations.

There should be sanctions of a legal nature against any who substitute anti for pro but if we are to live in an inclusive world there is no place for an organisation based on "Pro" any special interest group.

There are far too many members of these groups that work very hard to maintain (or extend) their special place as a disadvantaged minority... work harder at not being different.

I am not saying don't be gay, black, indigenous etc just don't work so hard at gaining benefit from it!!



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6299 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2280 times:

Quoting Fly777s (Thread starter):
Chick-fil-a
Quoting Fly777s (Thread starter):
should be boycotted

But it's sooooooo tasty!  


User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2264 times:
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Quoting stealthz (Reply 20):
I am not saying don't be gay, black, indigenous etc just don't work so hard at gaining benefit from it!!

How about asking some entities not to work so hard at gaining benefit to be against it? It only fair.. don't you think?



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User currently offlinekngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2259 times:
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Quoting stealthz (Reply 20):
I am not saying don't be gay, black, indigenous etc just don't work so hard at gaining benefit from it!!

The only benefit they're trying to gain is equality.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8188 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 12):

I will be the first to point out the irony that every Chick-Fil-A is closed on Sunday because of their founders deep Southern Baptist beliefs.

I can respect those beliefs, but have a problem with intolerance when pushed.

In terms of the corporate world, I believe that well run companies have already eliminated discrimination based on orientation. Best example is Apple. Not only do they have a policy of non-discrimination, they have a new CEO who happens to be gay. And who also happens to be an outstanding CEO.

Companies who retain discrimination against gays are simply missing out on employees who can be outstanding. They diminish potential success because they miss out on some outstanding people.


25 Post contains images WestJet747 : Please outline, if you can, the illegalities of an entity being "pro" anything. So if I read that correctly, we should also get rid of organizations
26 Post contains images scbriml : I have to agree. As long as they're not anti-gay, anti-black, anti-muslim, etc. why do they have to be pro anything? Why can't we all just get along?
27 Ken777 : Considering that he was the operational brains behind Apple's supply chains (and had a huge impact on the company because of his work) I put him very
28 stealthz : The sanctions are for those that are ANTI not PRO. My point is if we took the appropriate action against those that discriminated against gays, Asian
29 DocLightning : What benefit? I don't have the same legal rights as the dude next to me. As soon as I do, I'll shut up.
30 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : Wait, I thought the gay agenda was a lot more menacing? Didn't know that... I eat Subway all the time so I feel a little bit better
31 Post contains images DocLightning : Only for you, honey.
32 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : So by gay people do you mean hot lesbians?? And back on topic so my post doesn't get deleted, how has Subway and Google supported same-sex marriage?
33 Post contains links DocLightning : They have both publicly stated that they support it. Google is going for a global approach. Subway has been VERY proactive in dealing with a few anti
34 raffik : I am gay.. and I don't understand "pro gay companies". Everyone should be treated equally across the board. You shouldn't be treated differently becau
35 Klaus : As ridiculous as it is, but just that already constitutes "pro gay" in this context - simply the absence of discrimination.
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