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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2732 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5487 times:

Wow, I hope this doesn't turn into a flamefest...

But the Pro-Gay Corporations thread, and the mention I made on it of the asinine Target boycott of 2010, made me think about companies that I really do boycott, for reasons of varying seriousness.

Home Depot sponsored the Olympic games in... when was it, 2000? 2002? Dunno, but the "jingle" they used in their TV ads was this... I just can't even think of a word to describe its degree of lameness ... compositionally, it wasn't anything different from "If You're Happy and You Know It (Clap Your Hands)," which itself was issued from the gods who dwell on Mount Fatuous. They did this slow tempo, "choral," wanna-be-artier-than-bearable arrangement of the blamed thing that really just stained my musical ears in a way that required the maximum recommended amount of auditory Oxi-Clean.

Well. Tell me a company with Home Depot's resources can't hire an actual songwriter? They will get not one penny from me.

I also boycott Procter and Gamble (animal testing), Nestle (I've forgotten by now but it had something to do with kids in Africa and they shipped their powdered milk down there in order to build brand recognition even though they knew the children's systems couldn't handle the stuff and children actually died for the sake of Nestle wanting to build brand recognition), and a few others - I won't give the complete list for fear of fanning the flames.

Or of pouring gasoline on them. The boycott that I feel most strongly about is of Shell Oil. From the information I've gathered - and I haven't seen Shell themselves proffer any contradicting information - they were complicit in the framing and execution of Nigerian writer and Ogoni people's rights activist Ken Saro-Wiwa in the mid-1990's.

It's an action that is, even for an oil company, off the charts of expected evil.

Shell ain't gettin' any of my business ever.


Pancakes are delicious.
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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7657 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5475 times:

Tine in Norway, they constantly mismanage the milk quotas here, so last Christmas the country ran out of butter.

User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5472 times:

I want nothing whatsoever to do with Axel Springer AG, most importantly their number one publication "Bild". However, avoiding them is difficult due to their numerous participations.


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5461 times:

I can't really think of any companies that I intentionally boycott. I care about the price and service that I receive and companies that use cheap additives, lie on their packaging, use other deceitful advertising or various other pet causes of mine such as misandrist advertising or stupid things (like yours) such as bad music in advertising or bad websites.

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Shell ain't gettin' any of my business ever.

I'm not sure how you go about that seeing as though they are vertically integrated in the entire oil industry. I doubt you can go a week without giving Shell your business even if you don't buy from Shell branded stations or buy their engine oils.

Its mostly a pretty personal thing , I don't think its good to go around trying to show how morally superior one is by the companies they boycott, we saw a wave of that after Rush's comments and companies that continued to advertise with him.

The beauty of the free market that one can boycott companies for whatever reason and often they will change! You can't boycott the DMV or equivalent unfortunately but more government and less companies will fix our world.


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4749 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5432 times:

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):

So I understand your reasons for boycotting Shell, but a mere jingle and you boycott Home Depot?
Mind you , you are protesting for issues on Shell and NEstle that were long ago settled in courts.

In the case of Nestle. THe issue wasn't the formula itself. It was the dirty water it was mixed with.



Boycotting over a current issue is worthwhile, but why for items resolved?



Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

I boycott most dog food companies that are owned by conglomerates. Science Diet/Eukabana is Proctor & Gamble, Nutro is now Del Monte Foods, etc. Most of these types of dog food companies were responsible for the great dog kill off of 2008. These companies realized that they could save money by buying the wheat gluten for their dog foods from China. Unfortunately that wheat gluten had melamine in it. Tons of dogs came down with cancer or organ failure and died from that.

Just do a Google search on "Dog Food Recalls" and you will be shocked at how many dog foods have been recalled just this year. And most of the foods come from these conglomerates. They just don't care about the product quality, just the money.

I boycotted Continental airlines from 1982-2005 because of a very bad experience I had with them in early 82. Finally when I was forced to fly them (someone else bought the ticket and it was a group fare) I was pleasantly surprised to find out how far they had come and actually flew them several more times since on my own dime.


User currently offlinesunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1760 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5407 times:

Ryaniar - I hate the way they go on as if they are so much better than anyone else, and also they way they slate other companies.

The Sun newspaper - for their phone hacking scandal

These are the only two companies I do not deal with.



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User currently offlineGBLKD From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5394 times:

Quoting sunshine79 (Reply 6):
The Sun newspaper - for their phone hacking scandal

I boycott it primarily because it's a steaming pile of crap like 99% of the British press.

I won't set foot in Tesco (unless I want to use thier toilets) due to thier borg-like business model and tax dodging.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5369 times:

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
How careful are you on that one....? P&G is huge with many divisions I didnt know they owned.

[Edited 2012-07-08 05:22:13]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Companies You Boycott  

Only companies that don't provide what I want at the right price. If they do, I don't care about anything else really.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offline747438 From UK - England, joined Jan 2007, 838 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5346 times:

Virgin.
I won't have anything to do with that tacky brand


User currently offlineStratofish From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1053 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5288 times:

That list would be way too long to post on here, but I'll post a selection:

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
I want nothing whatsoever to do with Axel Springer AG, most importantly their number one publication "Bild". However, avoiding them is difficult due to their numerous participations.

  
- What used to be United Fruit Co. (involvement in civil wars)
- North-German Burger King affiliates (abuse/treatment of employees)
- Lidl (German grocery stores - abuse/treatment of employees, tax evasion)
- Shell (I have not forgotten the "Brent Spar" stunt!)
- ANY store that uses one of those signs you place directly on the sidewalk in the path of everyone. Yes I do get to see what you offer, but I am so p***ed off by your obstructing the path I want to walk that you will not get any of my business!
.
.
.

And since this is an aviation forum:
- Ryanair (subsidies raider /locust, abuse/treatment of employees, payment, airports, advertising... EVERYTHING!)
- LH TXL / BER operations (despicable and uncalled for outsourcing of staff)
- Spirit and the likes...
- Air Berlin (currently under review, might fly them again if they change their practices now that "Unhold" is gone, still don't like their open political conservative approach though)



The Metro might be the Sub(optimal)way
User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5280 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
I want nothing whatsoever to do with Axel Springer AG, most importantly their number one publication "Bild". However, avoiding them is difficult due to their numerous participations.

Similarly, I won't ever buy a copy of the Austrian „Kronen Zeitung“ which is 10x times worse than Bild. Even further to the right, and they back our populist-right Freedom Party.


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5244 times:

I don't tend to boycott companies, I tend to boycott locations. If I have a bad experience at a location of a retail or restaurant chain, I tend to avoid that location for a time (especially if I make use of one of their "how was your visit" online surveys in the hopes of getting things straightened out).

About the only company I try to avoid in general is Starbucks. It's overhyped coffee that is not worth the price they charge for it. Working in the coffee industry and knowing how much our company charges our accounts for coffee, it gives me an idea on how much of a markup big coffee chains like Starbucks put on their products. Even on the most high end coffee they sell in their stores, they are paying remarkably less for it than small coffee companies and since they don't have a middleman, that also keeps their costs down (our company is the middleman as we are a supplier and not the end user of the product) and increases revenue. I've probably had Starbucks less than a dozen times in the last 7 years, and only then it was when I was on vacation and I wanted a shot of espresso or an iced coffee and that was the only option (or the closest option).


User currently offlinePs76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5234 times:

Hi!

I don't boycott anything but my aunt boycotts Marks & Spencer because she thinks (is deluded?) it is run by zionists who give millions in profit to the IDF in Israel. She really likes their food and clothes though so every now and then we go there and buy a ton of stuff. How does she live with herself!

Pierre


User currently offlineStratofish From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1053 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 13):
especially if I make use of one of their "how was your visit" online surveys in the hopes of getting things straightened out

I do know that companies pay significant sums to providers of CRM software and analysis of custumer satisfaction. Still, I doubt these have much of an impact and are worth the effort.
Also I try to avoid Starbucks but purely because I think thei're too expensive and I have better options. Does that fit the definition of boykott? (Is there one?)

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 9):
Only companies that don't provide what I want at the right price. If they do, I don't care about anything else really.

Please don't take it personally, but, the lack of ANY idealism of someone your age is ...worrying.



The Metro might be the Sub(optimal)way
User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

Quoting Stratofish (Reply 11):
- Lidl (German grocery stores - abuse/treatment of employees, tax evasion)

I completely forgot about LIDL. It is an awful place to shop. And the quality of their products, unlike Hofer/ALDI and PENNY are considerably worse than the full price shops.


User currently offlinedcaviation From Poland, joined Aug 2011, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5215 times:
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I boycott AA since 1997. Because of nasty customer service.
Also Sprint for the same reason.


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

To my mind you need very strong principles to boycott a company, and need to be sure of your facts, some of the justifications above are a little weak/incorrect to say the least. You might just be cutting your nose off to spite your face.

I have a number of companies I prefer to avoid, none for political reasons, but due to a perception of poor service/poor products.

Macdonalds - mediocre food, mediocre staff
Ryanair - penny pinching, might as well travel by bus.
Subway - mediocre food
Starbucks, weak dishwater instead of coffee
Virgin Atlantic, really hacked me off the last time I flew with them, plus can't abide SRB
Barclays Bank - tried to rip us off over a trust fund.

However if I need coffee and starbucks is the only option, I won't go thirsty, likewise if Ryanair is the only direct flight option I'll use them etc.


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
I also boycott Procter and Gamble (animal testing

I haven't been to a KFC in over 20 years due to their mass rearing and mis-treatment of chickens. Animal welfare is very important to me.

Quoting Stratofish (Reply 11):
- Lidl (German grocery stores - abuse/treatment of employees, tax evasion)

Lidl and Aldi have a good name in the UK as good payers. Students love to work there.

Quoting 747438 (Reply 10):
Virgin.I won't have anything to do with that tacky brand
Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 18):
Virgin Atlantic, really hacked me off the last time I flew with them, plus can't abide SRB

Add me to the list. I will have nothing whatsoever to do with that brand. Even mentioning the name makes me angry.  


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3005 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5171 times:

I have never boycotted a company: for me, a boycott happens when the company does something you don't agree with. Some companies do this, but I don't boycott them; generally, I could not care less. However, there are companies I avoid like the plague--McDonald's, for example, because their food is utter garbage, and there is much better food out there. I won't walk into one. I don't consider it a boycott; if I did not eat there because they abuse animals or something of the sort, then that be a boycott.... this is a matter of personal taste. In general, though, I don't care. I get the best product, regardless of the company. (Or the cheapest product, in things like airfare.)


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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5157 times:

Quoting Stratofish (Reply 15):
Please don't take it personally, but, the lack of ANY idealism of someone your age is ...worrying.

Worrying? You should be applauding it, as idealism is the enemy of action. Idealism is what moves people to "occupy" things, abandoning hygiene and decency in the name of...something...maybe.

It's just business.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

Many of you have stated, essentially, that there is a difference between avoiding a company and a boycott. That's exactly right. It's only a boycott if you consciously avoid a company for a reason other than the quality or price of their product.

I avoid loads of places, such as Lidl, but every now and then I may set foot into one of their stores. But I won't even take a free paper from Springer.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 21):
idealism is the enemy of action.

Oh dear.  rotfl  You don't really have a grasp on history, do you?

[Edited 2012-07-08 08:23:01]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

Monsanto - I call them Monsatan
and all GMO related companies I am aware of that are using any or all Monsanto patents.

 

Most large food chains such as McDonalds, Pizza Hut, KFC, BurgerKing, Starbucks, Coca Cola, Pespi and such. Food stores such as Leader Price, Aldi, Lidl and such.

As long as we are still given the right to take our hardly earned money where we want and be able to choose, I will be using this right for as much as I can.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5127 times:

I used to avoid Carl's Jr. restaurants, for the right-wing anti-gay stance of their owner. (And I hated their commercials to boot!) It's been years, and I haven't seen a Carl's in a long time. So it's out of mind. Same with Cracker Barrel, if I'm driving cross country. Not keen on Dominos pizza either. Plenty of other options.

I still avoid Exxon. Think of the thousands of dollars I've deprived them since 1989.   

On a parallel note, I try to buy wild-caught sustainable fish and free-range, non-genetically altered meats. Not exactly a boycot, but a consumer tendency.

Rotten customer service will have me avoid individual stores. I've got plenty of choice, and given a chance with a customer service survey, I'll let them know. I had a deposit refunded for that from a car dealer once.

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 18):
However if I need coffee and starbucks is the only option, I won't go thirsty,

You could always get water, or a coke. I can't stand skunk coffee. I'm not that dependent on coffee to drink something that upsets me. If I'm with friends, I could get a tea or hot cider. Or a coke.

-Rampart


User currently offlinehOMSAr From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5325 times:

Walmart

Also, McDonald's (though that's less of a boycott than it is a matter of I never intend to eat there again because I have too much respect for my physical body)



I was raised by a cup of coffee.
User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 26, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5286 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 1):
Tine in Norway

I buy Q milk whenever I can



"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently onlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5413 times:

Walmart. I've read too many stories of rotten things they've done for them to be isolated instances, like they claim.

User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 28, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 22):
Oh dear.    You don't really have a grasp on history, do you?

Quite a good one actually. Like how the Soviet Union wasted the better part of a century pursuing the idealist fantasy of Communism. And there are plenty of other wastes of time and resources on overly idealistic ideas.

The world runs on power and money. Accept it and exploit it.

Quoting rampart (Reply 24):
I still avoid Exxon. Think of the thousands of dollars I've deprived them since 1989.

Fish and birds can't power my car. I have to keep my priorities straight.

Quoting johns624 (Reply 27):
Walmart.

But they have products I want and prices virtually no one can match. I'm not going to punish myself for whatever sin Walmart committed this week.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 29, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5339 times:

I'd really like to think I have other things to worry about life than partake in some boycott. Besides, the term has become way overused and perverted throughout the years. Avoiding The Home Depot because of some jingle they had ten years ago... that's not a boycott that's just stupid. Like others have said, I tend to end up where price is best and if I must avoid anything it will be particular locations not the entire company itself. .....However if I were to be a team player here and go along, I would have to say I try to avoid Walmart - especially for grocery shopping. But given the fact they're down the street and open 24 hours, I still end up there more often than I'd like.


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User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2706 posts, RR: 1
Reply 30, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5324 times:

I avoid Walmart mainly because I just don't like the company in general. Toyota, Honda, and their luxury brands will never get my business either. Too much overhype about their "reliable" cars.


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User currently offlineZentraedi From Japan, joined Jun 2007, 660 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

American Airlines and United Airlines for their terrible customer service and poor attitudes.

Even if you don't have the nicest planes or service amenities, you could at least deal with people in a pleasant and civil manner.

Never had those issues on any other US airline that I've flown.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40014 posts, RR: 74
Reply 32, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5290 times:

Delta Airlines
Air Asia



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5599 posts, RR: 15
Reply 33, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

I believe that boycotts, without political action are useless.

Read that as: one person, one family, one group, boycotting anything doesn't do a thing without some kind of public statement, protest, news release, etc.

I doubt that Home Depot could give a rat's butt if the OP didn't care for the jingle. Now, if some movement was formed and protest were raised and the organization felt some impact, ok, but one person?

But, if it helps you sleep at night...have a ball.

I especially like the 'boycott the oil companies on (pick a day). Don't buy gas and teach them a lesson.' You know what: go a week or 10 days or a month without visiting a gas station and you'll get my attention. Go a day or 2 and you're just a hypocrite.

And, just to add to the noise:

-I don't eat fast food. Not because of the way they treat the animals or prepare the food. Because, I don't like it.
But, I don't shy from getting the kids a Happy Meal, now and again.
-I shop local when I can, if it makes sense economically, not because I hate big box stores but because I want to support local entrepreneurs.
-I won't even go into The Home Depot on Westport Rd because of lousy customer service and an indifferent management team. But, I'll go to any other one.

For a while, I avoided (ok, boycotted) places that posted 'No Concealed Weapons' signs. But, realized that I was just hurting myself and denying myself options. So, I'm not bothered anymore.

So, to summarize, unless there is a concerted general effort to deny business to an organization, an individual boycott is more likely to affect only the boycotter and not the target. But, if it makes you feel ok, then go for it.



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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 34, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5291 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
And there are plenty of other wastes of time and resources on overly idealistic ideas.

Those highly "idealist fantasy" include democracy, which isn't exactly a fallacy - but it has been considered one for the best part of human history.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
The world runs on power and money. Accept it and exploit it.

It runs on many other things as well. For instance, how exactly did having you give your parents more power or money?

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
Fish and birds can't power my car. I have to keep my priorities straight.

I do hope that is just world-class trolling.

Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 31):
Never had those issues on any other US airline that I've flown.

I've had a very bad experience with Delta, but when I gave them another chance, they turned out to be no worse than the others.

[Edited 2012-07-08 10:31:18]


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5214 times:

I work in the delivery business where a substantial amount of my income comes from tips. If a business I deliver to does not tip me, I will be more than happy to shop at one of their competitors.

Several people mentioned Starbucks. Yes, they are overpriced. However I don't "boycott" them. I look for the nearest 7-eleven, Wawa, or other convenience store to get my coffee. BTW the coffee at 7-eleven and Wawa is better than Starbucks IMO and costs less. I also avoid Dunkin Donuts because their coffee is overpriced compared to convenience stores.

Some mentioned oil companies. All gasoline goes through some complicated clearinghouse before it gets to a gas station. Therefore the gas you buy at Shell could have come from BP, the gas at 7-eleven could come from Exxon, the gas at Sunoco might have come from Citgo, etc. All boycotting a particular gasoline brand does is hurt the local mom-and-pop gasoline station.


User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 36, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
Fish and birds can't power my car. I have to keep my priorities straight.

Nor does whale oil, but it might have had society remained in the rut that kept their "priorities straight". You have your priorities, I have mine. Another one of my priorities is to try to compensate for yours (collectively) by working toward understanding, education, and empathy. Probably lost on individuals, but over time, that attitude simply dies out. Otherwise we'd be still have cesspool rivers, wetlands paved over with airports and malls, and be wearing gas masks. Or, powering your car with whale oil and treating your flu with bloodletting. Fortunately, attitudes change, except for stubborn resistance from a few holdouts.

Quoting aloges (Reply 34):
I do hope that is just world-class trolling.

Oh, he is, and I bit for it. But I think he does have himself convinced.


User currently offlineTecumsehSherman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 37, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

I don't boycott any companies.

I will boycott anything from Arizona, because of how out of control their right-wing government has become. I won't have anything to do with Arizona.


User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 38, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5161 times:

Quoting TecumsehSherman (Reply 37):
I will boycott anything from Arizona, because of how out of control their right-wing government has become. I won't have anything to do with Arizona.

Ah yes the broken record appears again! Right bad. Left good. We get it. Was it worth your $25? Btw, why couldn't you post all this under your real username? What's there to hide?



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User currently onlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5138 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 34):
do hope that is just world-class trolling.

No, he's still in school and living at home with his parents and thinks he knows what the world is all about. His thread on how much money he wanted to make awhile ago proves it. As my Dad used to say "all brains and no common sense".


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 40, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
I want nothing whatsoever to do with Axel Springer AG, most importantly their number one publication "Bild".

I don't read "Bild". The free copy I found in my letter box when they celebrated their 60th(?) anniversary ended up in the recycling bin - unread.

But: OftenI find Der Spiegel and particularly Spiegel Online nearly as bad as Bild. At least Bild admits of being a yellow press paper, whereas Spiegel is giving others the impression of being a reliable news source - which is bull. And this is not about political orientation. It is about journalism standards Der Spiegel and Spiegel Online often do not meet. I could easily start blogging about "lies" Spiegel Online publishes - the equivalent to Bildblog - and would not run out of stories to blog about.

[Edited 2012-07-08 12:14:56]


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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 41, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5100 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 40):
Often I find Der Spiegel and particularly Spiegel Online nearly as bad as Bild.

Absolutely.    I used to have a subscription to the magazine and would read quite a few of the articles on the web. I cancelled the subscription long ago and almost every glance at their website results in little but despair... I do however get some light entertainment from their forums.    They have almost become worthy of a boycott.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2746 posts, RR: 8
Reply 42, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5068 times:

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 38):
Quoting TecumsehSherman (Reply 37):I will boycott anything from Arizona, because of how out of control their right-wing government has become. I won't have anything to do with Arizona.Ah yes the broken record appears again! Right bad. Left good. We get it. Was it worth your $25? Btw, why couldn't you post all this under your real username? What's there to hide?

Was wondering his original name myself.



OMG-Obama Must Go
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 43, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5028 times:

Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 31):
American Airlines and United Airlines for their terrible customer service and poor attitudes.

That's not a boycott, that's using competitors because you like their service better.

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 29):
But given the fact they're down the street and open 24 hours,

Exactly. I don't care if they bribe every official in Mexico, when I need toothpaste and a light bulb, I need toothpaste and a light bulb. I'm not going to risk my oral hygiene to make a point (to myself, nobody else will know or care).

Quoting aloges (Reply 34):
For instance, how exactly did having you give your parents more power or money?

It probably didn't. But for me business is business.

Quoting aloges (Reply 34):
I do hope that is just world-class trolling.

Not at all. I mean fish and turtles are nice and all, but I get more enjoyment from my car and other hydrocarbon intensive objects and activities than they could ever offer.

Quoting johns624 (Reply 39):
His thread on how much money he wanted to make awhile ago proves it

Let me clarify, I doubt I'll ever make that kind of money. The odds are highly against it. The point was that it was the number where making money would probably stop being a main priority for me. I'm not one of those "just give me enough money to have a comfortable lifestyle and save for retirement" people. I'm not wired that way and think it's kind of silly that anyone is, but other people can have whatever priorities they wish.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5599 posts, RR: 15
Reply 44, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5013 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 43):
That's not a boycott, that's using competitors because you like their service better.

Correct. A boycott would be if you forego your trip because you choose to not fly them (assuming they are the only ones that serve the market)...and then make a public stink about it.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 45, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
The world runs on power and money. Accept it and exploit it.
Quoting aloges (Reply 34):
For instance, how exactly did having you give your parents more power or money?
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 43):
It probably didn't. But for me business is business.

You're starting to contradict yourself. That's good.  

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 44):
A boycott would be if you forego your trip because you choose to not fly them (assuming they are the only ones that serve the market)...and then make a public stink about it.

You could choose an alternative means of transport - train, car or flying carpet - and not make a stink about it, but it would still be your own personal boycott.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 46, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4957 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 45):
You're starting to contradict yourself. That's good.

Not at all. When I say that the world runs on power and money, what I'm getting at is that it is ridiculous to support "everybody play nice and contribute for the common good" ideas because they don't work. The only way to make them function at all on a large scale is coercion, which is basically the opposite of the intent.

I have no time for idealistic crusades and I'm not about to deprive myself of something for the well being, perceived or otherwise, of some group unless it benefits me. (Yes, if it helps you sleep at night and feel good about yourself then it does benefit you. Boycott away and don't try to convince me to join in. And be honest that it's for your peace of mind) Sure it sucks that some people work in factories for a dollar a day, but it sucks for them and not for me. The only thing for me to do is thank my lucky stars I was born in America, put on those shoes, and go play ball.

It would be nice to take care of everyone and make everyone happy, but that just costs way too much. So I'll settle for taking care of myself and making myself happy.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 47, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4948 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 46):
I have no time for idealistic crusades

Oh, trust me, you are on one...  

Anyway, I've just noticed a link in the "Similar topics" field on the bottom of the page:
I'll Boycott Eurovision!will You? (by RootsAir May 13 2005 in Non Aviation)
IIRC, the Eurovision contest is not organised by a company in the traditional sense, but boy do I boycott it!  The same goes for almost everything organised by UEFA and FIFA, although those tend to act like syndicates rather than like companies.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5599 posts, RR: 15
Reply 48, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 45):
You could choose an alternative means of transport - train, car or flying carpet - and not make a stink about it, but it would still be your own personal boycott.

And, I suggested in my previous posts that if it makes you feel better, more power to you. But, an individual boycott hurts the boycotter more than the target, especially in a market with limited suppliers.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Reply 49, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4933 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 40):
But: OftenI find Der Spiegel and particularly Spiegel Online nearly as bad as Bild. At least Bild admits of being a yellow press paper, whereas Spiegel is giving others the impression of being a reliable news source - which is bull. And this is not about political orientation. It is about journalism standards Der Spiegel and Spiegel Online often do not meet. I could easily start blogging about "lies" Spiegel Online publishes - the equivalent to Bildblog - and would not run out of stories to blog about.

I agree. I´ve been reading the Spiegel since about 35 years now (since I nicked from my father´s desk every monday when I was a little boy). It used to be better and have better researched articles, giving more background information. It used to be fatter as well, with more text and less pictures.
I think since Augstein died, the owners and management went into the "infotainment" direction.
I prefered the Spiegel to be the assault artillery of democracy (Sturmgeschütz der Demokratie), what it was up to the 1980s.
I still buy the magazine every monday, but more and more I wonder if I just wasted my € 4.20.

Jan


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17780 posts, RR: 46
Reply 50, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4880 times:

I think most people are confusing "boycotting" with "not liking". Somewhere in between those two is me vs Chic-fil-a. I've never understood what makes it any better than the average fast food chicken sandwich, and regardless I prefer mine cult-free.

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Nestle (I've forgotten by now but it had something to do with kids

*well*  keep up the good fight 
Quoting fr8mech (Reply 33):
I doubt that Home Depot could give a rat's butt if the OP didn't care for the jingle.

That is the most bizarre reason I've ever heard for a boycott.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 51, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 49):
I still buy the magazine every monday, but more and more I wonder if I just wasted my € 4.20.

I prefer "Die Zeit" over "Der Spiegel", but "Der Spiegel" ("'Bild' for the intellectual" or "Bild am Montag" as I call it) - the printed issue - differs from Spiegel Online. While Spiegel Online publishes some of Der Spiegel's articles, both have different editors, and the online issue was set up as an infotainment portal from the beginning (same with sueddeutsche.de vs. Süddeutsche Zeitung btw). But both Spiegels are often in breach with journalistic standards, and that's what bothers me.



I support the right to arm bears
User currently offline2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 8713 posts, RR: 1
Reply 52, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

One thing about large businesses and the politically active person, it will always be a hard mix. To the liberal such as myself if I boycotted every business that has some interest in a conservative cause like a chamber of commerce or the Business Round table or prefers to stay union free I would have virtually no where to go to get what I need. Walmart and Target might seem very different in exterior appearance but the wages are about the same and they are both not friendly to unions. On the other hand If I where an active social conservative I would not be happy with big businesses either, look at JP Penney and the debacle with the hiring of Ellen DeGeneres for advertisement, sure ticked of the Million Mom March, Target with it's pro gay shirt, Lowe's with it's English and Spanish signs, Kohl's with it's solar panels on the roof, CSX and Union Pacific saying trains are the greenest way to move things across the country and of course we will never hear the end of conservatives bashing GE, the biggest corporation in America with it's association with MSNBC and the Obama Administration, good luck changing those GE light bulbs to Philip's super efficient lights.

If I where to boycott a store, it would be for serious offences such as anti-gay bias, telling people who to vote for, repeated labor violations or poor ergonomic standards, not political bias of the CEO.



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User currently offline3DoorsDown From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4709 times:

Nike. I hate the company and will never wear anything with the swoosh on it.
Ford. If a "friend" drives one over, they get to park on the side of the road. Preferably two houses down.  


User currently onlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1903 posts, RR: 10
Reply 54, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4693 times:

I don't buy anything from Walmart. Their business practices are bad enough, but it's their denial of such practices that pushes me to give my money to their competitors.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 21):
idealism is the enemy of action

...says the patriotic American who fails to recognize that his own beloved United States of American was founded on idealism.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 32):
Air Asia

May I ask why? I've flown them numerous times and had a very pleasant experience each time (as far as can be expected with a LCC anyway).



Flying refined.
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21796 posts, RR: 55
Reply 55, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4691 times:

I don't buy from Amazon - their business practices are incredibly destructive for the long-term health of the publishing industry, and I'm not going to support that.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 46):
it is ridiculous to support "everybody play nice and contribute for the common good" ideas because they don't work.
www.wikipedia.org

-Mir



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 56, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4641 times:

I will not do business with BP gas stations over their Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.
I would rather not buy gas at a Citgo station due the oil company's ownership by the Venezuelan government led by that their dictator Chavez
Years ago I avoided Shell due to their terrible actions in Africa.
I will only buy a car assembled by UAW/CAW union workers.
I will not buy any product with the American Flag or like symbols made other than in the USA.
I try not to buy products made in Vietnam as I lost a cousin in that war in 1967.
I refuse to watch Fox News Channel due to their extreme Conservative bias.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40014 posts, RR: 74
Reply 57, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 38):
Ah yes the broken record appears again! Right bad. Left good. We get it. Was it worth your $25?



  
LOL!         
The $25 was probably paid for by the Obama2012 campaign. Notice how his supporters are running around screaming & hollering and on just about every website shouting down people who are not 100% in lock-step with his agenda. After-all, he did say "get in people's faces".

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 54):
May I ask why? I've flown them numerous times and had a very pleasant experience each time (as far as can be expected with a LCC anyway).


Glad you liked them.
First & Last Time On Air Asia Bangkok-Kuala Lumpur (by Superfly May 14 2012 in Trip Reports)#1

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 56):
I will only buy a car assembled by UAW/CAW union workers.


  
Good man!
I did the same when I lived in the US. My car which is still in the US was made by UAW union workers in Wixom, Michigan.
It's difficult to do that here in Asia.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 56):
I will not do business with BP gas stations over their Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.
I would rather not buy gas at a Citgo station due the oil company's ownership by the Venezuelan government led by that their dictator Chavez
Years ago I avoided Shell due to their terrible actions in Africa.


I hope you never run low on gas in rural areas where choices of gas is limited. 



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2820 posts, RR: 4
Reply 58, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4620 times:
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HEAD MODERATOR

Walmart tops my list. I just hate the stores. I feel like every time I am ever in there they just got ransacked and looted.

Another would be US Airways. I can't stand their service and they made one trip just a disaster.

I was turned off of Ford too though not because of a product I purchased from them. I was helping my stepfather find a new car a couple years back and he was between a Toyota and a Ford. When he was talking to the salesman he said it would be unAmerican to buy a Toyota since the money went to Japan. The funny part was the Toyota was manufactured in the United States while the Ford's engine was made in Mexico and the transmission in Canada. He told me to shut up and let the adults talk (mind you I was only 17). I don't think my stepfather could have marched out of there any quicker.

Blue



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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1438 posts, RR: 4
Reply 59, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4613 times:

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 14):
I don't boycott anything but my aunt boycotts Marks & Spencer because she thinks (is deluded?) it is run by zionists who give millions in profit to the IDF in Israel. She really likes their food and clothes though so every now and then we go there and buy a ton of stuff. How does she live with herself!

Pierre

:D That is the most hilarious thing I have heard in a long time.

I agree with those who say boycotts are mostly pointless. However they can often raise awareness on an issue even if they don't financially impact a company. At the very least you're cancelling out all the good PR that company is spewing out trying to make you believe they are nice and cuddly.

In my youth I might have boycotted Nestle if I didn't like Milkybars so much.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7657 posts, RR: 4
Reply 60, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 26):

I buy Q milk whenever I can

So do I, the problem is Q products aren't stocked in many supermarkets around here, so my boycott isn't what it should be.


User currently offlineN172DM From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Spirit Airlines! https://www.facebook.com/Boycottspirit   



Seriously though, I don't Boycott very many companies, though I don't like quite a few, like:

Walmart- bad service
Costco-Same reason
Procter and Gamble-bad business deals and animal testing
Toyota-I just do not like their cars and trucks at all
Ryanair- Bad service and their CEO is selfish and annoying

A few others too...

Danny



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3005 posts, RR: 1
Reply 62, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 56):
I would rather not buy gas at a Citgo station due the oil company's ownership by the Venezuelan government led by that their dictator Chavez

   I failed to mention this one in my post.



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineautothrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1603 posts, RR: 9
Reply 63, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

There are many company's i boycott:

Mostly: Ryanair

Chinese Company's as they copy everything

Apple: pathetic politics of apple, hype of apple products, bad ecology in production

Microsoft: as possible pathetic extremly expensive products, customer support

Nvidia pathetic company buying competitors and declaring their inventions as own

Subaru ugly cars taking jobs from european car industry

Honda ugly cars ""

Toyota extremly ugly cars ""

Hyundai ""

Dell crappy computers



“Faliure is not an option.”
User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7657 posts, RR: 4
Reply 64, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

Quoting autothrust (Reply 63):

Subaru ugly cars taking jobs from european car industry

Really since when are Subaru taking jobs from the European car industry, the problem with the European car industry is massive over capacity and unions who have given there workers outrageous pay demands, none of which is anything to do with Subaru. Toyota and Honda have plants in Europe providing jobs for Europeans.


User currently offlineSmittyOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 65, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 46):
It would be nice to take care of everyone and make everyone happy, but that just costs way too much. So I'll settle for taking care of myself and making myself happy.

I agree that you can't throw your arms around the world.

But on the other hand I think that you will discover as you get a few more years under your belt that achieving some level of prosperity and comfort won't equate to real happiness in the long run. At least that has been my experience.

Find something local that you are passionate about and contribute there. Really the only worthwhile legacy a man can have is the positive impacts on other people.


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 66, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 33):
I believe that boycotts, without political action are useless.
Quoting fr8mech (Reply 33):

I believe that boycotts, without political action are useless.Read that as: one person, one family, one group, boycotting anything doesn't do a thing without some kind of public statement, protest, news release, etc.

I don't believe that is true. Many years ago when the French were blowing up an atoll to test a nuclear bomb the people in Britain without any form or central coordination boycotted French products.

For some time afterwards you could pick up French food products for peanuts. No one was buying it. I'm not sure of the political results of that but a valid public protest was made.


User currently offlineautothrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1603 posts, RR: 9
Reply 67, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 64):
Really since when are Subaru taking jobs from the European car industry,

Have you seen how many fugly Subaru's are on the streets here in Europe?



“Faliure is not an option.”
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 68, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

I can't really think of any I boycott formally. I used to boycott US Airways after some very bad experiences, but I got stuck on a flight not long ago and really enjoyed it...so they're off my bad list  

User currently onlineSIA747Megatop From Singapore, joined Apr 2012, 318 posts, RR: 1
Reply 69, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

I boycott Emirates. They don't need to grow any bigger and completely tarnish the competition. I have friends that are close to me that work with SIA to boot, an airline that is ALWAYS my first choice in air travel.

Edit: Tiger Airways too. Bad safety practices, have had my foot cut my an exposed metal rod.

[Edited 2012-07-09 14:39:28]


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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7657 posts, RR: 4
Reply 70, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

Quoting autothrust (Reply 67):

Have you seen how many fugly Subaru's are on the streets here in Europe?

Yup bugger all except in alpine areas.


User currently offlineDano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

Companies I boycott...

Nestlé
Asda (Walmart)
Vodaphone
O2
Virgin Atlantic
Norwich & Peterborough building society



Children should only be allowed on aircraft if 1. Muzzled and heavily sedated 2. Go as freight
User currently offlineBlueLine From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4164 times:

HP- Everything I have used has had poor reliability and their customer service is horrendous.

Aurelio's Pizza- A pizza chain in the suburban Chicago area. In high school, I worked for a small pizza place hat was having financial problems and Aurelio's bought the place. They would close the place for a month or two for remodeling and give everyone who worked there their job back when they reopened. After they opened, the only people who got their jobs back were the cashiers. None of the kitchen staff (which I was) or delivery drivers were offered their jobs back, or even heard back from them after reapplying for their jobs (multiple times in my case).

House of Blues- An eight dollar venue charge per ticket? Really? You are already getting money from the ticket, so you have to add more than 50% of the original price and don't even try to hide that it's just going in your pockets? Also, it's a lousy place to see a show. Just an awful floor plan.


User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2588 posts, RR: 7
Reply 73, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4138 times:

Quoting autothrust (Reply 63):
Apple: pathetic politics of apple, hype of apple products, bad ecology in production

Microsoft: as possible pathetic extremly expensive products, customer support

So, what operating system are you running? I know there's more out there than Windows and OSX, just curious. What about software programs?

Quoting BlueLine (Reply 72):
Aurelio's Pizza- A pizza chain in the suburban Chicago area.

Wow, they're still around? Surprised to hear that.

There's a couple companies I refuse to give my money to, mostly based on job-related dealings with them - they're past customers and made my life miserable in many ways for many days. Can't reward them by handing part of my paycheck to them.
Staples
Eddie Bauer

Other than that' I'm sort of in line with those that aren't really "boycotting" a business but just avoiding them because I can get better quality or a cheaper price elsewhere


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20204 posts, RR: 59
Reply 74, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4151 times:

Chick Fil-A. Won't touch them with a ten-foot pole.

As if discriminating against and harrassing non-Christian employees isn't bad enough, donating to anti-gay charities is just the extra icing on the...er...uh...chicken.

I also will not use PayPal. Too many security issues with them.


User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 75, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 55):
I don't buy from Amazon - their business practices are incredibly destructive for the long-term health of the publishing industry, and I'm not going to support that.

I have refused to patronize Amazon.com because of their refusal to stop selling cockfighting and dogfighting magazines, but it looks like this may have ended:

http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/...elines/timeline_amazon_110909.html

They have also refused to pull pro-pedophilia books in the past.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/tech...10/11/amazon-pedophile-book-1.html

It pains me to not support them because they're a Seattle company and I know a lot of people who work there. But their business practices cause me to think that they're totally chasing the almighty dollar without much conscience. Stories about their workforce reinforce this.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 76, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4097 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 75):
But their business practices cause me to think that they're totally chasing the almighty dollar without much conscience.

That's what businesses are supposed to do. Having a conscience is too expensive.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 77, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 76):
That's what businesses are supposed to do. Having a conscience is too expensive.

I think a balance can be attained, and I prefer to spend my money at companies that can do so.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 78, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4004 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 77):
I think a balance can be attained, and I prefer to spend my money at companies that can do so.

I have a "social good" portfolio in my retirement plan stocks. They've outperformed, in aggregate, all the other portfolios this year and in previous difficult stock market years. Interesting.

-Rampart


User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3056 posts, RR: 36
Reply 79, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3998 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
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I Boycott KFC, not for any PETA/Enviro reasons but because I got yelled at by 2 different managers at 2 different locations and their service sucks.
Boycott Little Ceasar's Pizza, bad food, bad attitude and just well bad.

I have recently ended my boycott for WalMart under psychological warfare reasons (can't stand to argue it with my better half anymore...). I boycotted them due to their labor practices.

Otherwise I pretty much don't care?
I know alot of people scream boycott about my employer but when you ask them why, the reasons... well I can't even call then reasons half the time, just Canada's 2nd favorite pass-time, biggest bashing.



Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 80, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

Quoting rampart (Reply 78):
I have a "social good" portfolio in my retirement plan stocks. They've outperformed, in aggregate, all the other portfolios this year and in previous difficult stock market years. Interesting.

You must be telling stories, after all we know that...

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 76):
Having a conscience is too expensive.

SCNR  

IIRC, the Norwegians do essentially the same with their oil money and they keep doing rather well.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 81, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3945 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 76):
Having a conscience is too expensive.

Which is why we have laws, unfortunately, because sometimes others think the same. The moral or monetary expense is beyond small minds, hence short cutting and then, crime.


User currently onlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1903 posts, RR: 10
Reply 82, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 76):
That's what businesses are supposed to do. Having a conscience is too expensive.

What real-world business experience are you basing this on? Can you provide us with a case study to support your statement?

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 79):
Canada's 2nd favorite pass-time, biggest bashing

This is unfortunately very true.



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User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 83, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3904 times:

Wow, this thread made me laugh harder than I have in a while. Thanks for the entertainment.

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
I've forgotten by now but it had something to do with

Yeah, keep on boycotting them then - who the hell knows why, but keep on it bro!

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
animal testing

Well then sign up for testing yourself. I'm sure they'd love human volunteers.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 5):
Finally when I was forced to fly them (someone else bought the ticket and it was a group fare) I was pleasantly surprised to find out how far they had come and actually flew them several more times since on my own dime.

This is the problem with boycotting. In the end, it becomes silly, or the boycotter realizes that its not that bad after all, or it turns out the reason was actually an urban legend... etc. Or, even more often, people focus on the bad and ignore the good these companies do.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 23):
Most large food chains such as [...] Coca Cola,

The Coca-Cola Company does not sell food. It is a beverage company.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 33):

I believe that boycotts, without political action are useless.

Oh, yay, sanity showed up!

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 33):
For a while, I avoided (ok, boycotted) places that posted 'No Concealed Weapons' signs. But, realized that I was just hurting myself and denying myself options. So, I'm not bothered anymore.

In many states, you aren't breaking the law unless they ask you to leave. You can carry, and if they find out and ask you to leave, then you have to leave otherwise you are trespassing. The goal of concealed carry is that they'll never know anyway, so no big deal.

Quoting autothrust (Reply 63):
Honda ugly cars ""

Yep, let's boycott them! Forget that they make reliable cars that perform fine and are fairly green (aren't we supposed to worry about that?) - if they don't look like the best eye candy around, bye bye!

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 74):

Chick Fil-A. Won't touch them with a ten-foot pole.

Well, that's ok. I make up for your share. Would you agree that helping marriages is a worthy endeavor? Could you credit them for that?

[Edited 2012-07-10 11:36:24]


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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 84, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3891 times:

Quoting rampart (Reply 81):
Which is why we have laws, unfortunately, because sometimes others think the same.

Investments in attempts to repeal particularly onerous legislation can be worthwhile in many cases.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 82):
What real-world business experience are you basing this on?

You don't have to go further than the grocery store. The "free range" or "organic" or whatever socially responsible foot there is for sale is almost always more expensive than the "normal" food. Whether it's just gouging or really costs more I don't know, but it doesn't seem like a decent value to me.



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User currently onlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1903 posts, RR: 10
Reply 85, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3856 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 84):
You don't have to go further than the grocery store. The "free range" or "organic" or whatever socially responsible foot there is for sale is almost always more expensive than the "normal" food. Whether it's just gouging or really costs more I don't know, but it doesn't seem like a decent value to me.

Thank you. You just made an excellent point (although contradictory to your original argument).  

Grocery stores sell free-range and organic foods because there is a market for it who are willing to pay the premium. You aren't representative of the entire U.S. consumer base, so just become "it doesn't seem like a decent value" to you, that doesn't mean that there isn't a segment of the population who does see value in the product. You've basically diminished your entire argument by providing us with a case where a business "having a conscience" is not "too expensive", but rather profitable. Case in point: Whole Foods.



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 86, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3842 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 85):
(although contradictory to your original argument)

Not at all. If a company behaves in "socially responsible" ways and then plasters that all over their packaging and advertising, that's not really "having a conscience." That's marketing to people who do. They aren't doing that because it's a good thing to do, they're doing it to gain customers. They're doing it to make customers feel good about themselves for buying their products.



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5599 posts, RR: 15
Reply 87, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 83):
In many states, you aren't breaking the law unless they ask you to leave. You can carry, and if they find out and ask you to leave, then you have to leave otherwise you are trespassing.


In this state, if the proprietor of the business posts a 'No Concealed Weapons' sign, you are considered to be trespassing whether they find out or not. Which brings us to:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 83):
The goal of concealed carry is that they'll never know anyway, so no big deal.


So, you're saying I should ignore the law? Sorry, no.

I will add, if there is an establishment I wish to frequent, and it has a 'No Concealed Weapons' sign posted, I let the management know my feelings, via email or snail mail. Two have responded and one removed the sign after a brief discussion on the phone. Both were local businesses without national ties.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7971 posts, RR: 51
Reply 88, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3777 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 87):
So, you're saying I should ignore the law? Sorry, no.

To be fair, he did say most states, and the states I've been to fell in this category. I wouldn't break laws dealing with guns especially, consequences are harsh.

I don't want go through and quote all of BMI727's posts, but I agree with the whole conscience part of businesses. Businesses exist to make money and they really don't go above and beyond to be moral or green (and if they do, the marketing gains either exceed or were projected to exceed the losses in being moral.) We have laws and Congress to set limits on companies to protect whatever you're trying to protect and keep a level playing field. If all companies legally dumped stuff in rivers except one "moral" company, that moral company has a competitive disadvantage and may go under for doing the right thing.

When a company breaks existing laws, that is what I consider unmoral.

I compare companies to dogs... dogs bark, that's what they do, you can't fault them for that. (Companies exist to make money, again, can't fault them for that.) If a dog is barking all night (bad) or a company is dumping some questionable chemical in our drinking water (bad) you can't really be mad at the company/dog, be mad at the owner/Congress to discipline the dog/make laws.

I know this example is black and white, but I think it is a good analogy. Can't get pissed at a company for doing all it can to (legally) make money... that is what companies are meant to do, their whole existence. Laws are passed to please the moral good



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User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 89, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 87):
In this state, if the proprietor of the business posts a 'No Concealed Weapons' sign, you are considered to be trespassing whether they find out or not. Which brings us to:

I don't know what state you live in. I did not say your state has the same laws as mine.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 87):
So, you're saying I should ignore the law? Sorry, no.

In the state I am familiar with, it is no more breaking the law than taking the simple deduction allowed by the IRS when you can't deduct that much if you itemize. Once the business owner asks you to leave, at that point you must leave.

Case law supports that. Again, this is only in the state I am familiar with, as well as others I have bothered checking on, however not to the same detail as my state. I am not a lawyer.

Never did I suggest, or ask you, to break laws that apply to you.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 87):
I will add, if there is an establishment I wish to frequent, and it has a 'No Concealed Weapons' sign posted, I let the management know my feelings, via email or snail mail. Two have responded and one removed the sign after a brief discussion on the phone. Both were local businesses without national ties.

That, however, I do agree with you on.



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User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3352 posts, RR: 31
Reply 90, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3719 times:
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Quoting ltbewr (Reply 56):
I would rather not buy gas at a Citgo station due the oil company's ownership by the Venezuelan government led by that their dictator Chavez

I do not do Citgo unless I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallly have to. I will use Shell or Speedway.

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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2450 posts, RR: 24
Reply 91, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 18):
Subway - mediocre food

Really? I think Subway is actually okay.. fresh ingredients


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3568 posts, RR: 4
Reply 92, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

German Automobile Manufacturers - As a person of eastern-European Jewish background, the majority of my dad's side was murdered by the Nazis. I have no prejudice against German people (I have friends of German background), however I will never purchase a car from a German automaker as I do not want to represent the country in such a large way due to the acts they commited against my ancestors. Plus, I don't find BMWs or Mercedes cars attractive at all inside or out. VWs are the nicest of the German brands IMO. Please do not question me or probe me about this as I will not go into it further.

Most Chinese branded products - The majority of which is absolutely crap which literally stinks. Flimsy plastic products with inferior, absolutely bottom of the barrel components. I'd rather spend $20 on something that's well made and will last rather than a $2 product which might break before I even get to the cash register. Made in China from a reputable brand is fine though.



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User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 721 posts, RR: 1
Reply 93, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3597 times:

When I think boycott, I think of people actively avoiding an organization due to their business practices, political views, or some other legitimate reason. This thread is mainly just a list of brands that people don't like - not really the same as a boycott, IMO.

Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 30):
Toyota, Honda, and their luxury brands will never get my business either. Too much overhype about their "reliable" cars.

Their cars ARE reliable. My 2007 Toyota Corolla has 115,000 miles on it and has only required minimal maintenance in the time that I have owned it. Can't say the same for the Chevy I previously owned.

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 79):
Boycott Little Ceasar's Pizza, bad food, bad attitude and just well bad.

Not at any Little Caesar's I've been to. Their pizza isn't the best that's out there, but it is by far the cheapest and it's ready when I get there. Can't beat the convenience.



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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2732 posts, RR: 3
Reply 94, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3532 times:

Quoting LFutia (Reply 90):
I do not do Citgo unless I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallly have to. I will use Shell or Speedway.

But why the preference for Shell? They had those Ogoni activists executed.



Pancakes are delicious.
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 95, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 92):
Please do not question me or probe me about this as I will not go into it further.

You should, because you'd see how ridiculous that is.

You should boycott Airbus, which contains the remnants of Messerschmitt.

You should boycott GM, since they owned Opel all the way through the war and the American government kept the factory from going to the Russians.

Ford's out too, since their Cologne factory continued operations through the war, sometimes using slave labor. Plus the company was run by an unabashed anti-Semite.

Actually, whatever car your conscience allows you to drive, you'll probably have to do quite a bit of work to purge it of all it's Bosch components.

And you should just hope that when you flip your light switch, that power wasn't generated using Siemens equipment.

If all this is giving you a headache, just make sure you don't take Bayer aspirin.

Quoting KGRB (Reply 93):
When I think boycott, I think of people actively avoiding an organization due to their business practices, political views, or some other legitimate reason. This thread is mainly just a list of brands that people don't like - not really the same as a boycott, IMO.

   A boycott is avoiding something because of something they do to people or groups distant from you. Not liking the product or poor customer service in the past isn't a boycott.



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User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3352 posts, RR: 31
Reply 96, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3504 times:
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Quoting Airstud (Reply 94):
But why the preference for Shell? They had those Ogoni activists executed.

I didn't know anything about that, but I like Shell gas, whichever is good for my car I will get however, Shell is generally cheaper and I get good gas mileage out of it.

Leo/ORD



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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 97, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 91):
Really? I think Subway is actually okay.. fresh ingredients

The freshness depends very much on where you are. In Scandinavia Subway typically deliver daily. In US it is typically twice a week.

Quoting KGRB (Reply 93):
When I think boycott, I think of people actively avoiding an organization due to their business practices, political views, or some other legitimate reason. This thread is mainly just a list of brands that people don't like - not really the same as a boycott, IMO.

  


User currently offlineautothrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1603 posts, RR: 9
Reply 98, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 83):
Yep, let's boycott them! Forget that they make reliable cars that perform fine and are fairly green (aren't we supposed to worry about that?) - if they don't look like the best eye candy around, bye bye!

As if japanese cars were the only reliable cars which perform fine and are fairly green.

New statistics show german cars to be more reliable then japanese. And they look soooo much better.

Even the new Renault Twingo is more reliable then the Toyota Aygo.

Toyota brakes anyone? Honda Batteries anyone?

These stereotypes about Japanese or Korean cars to specially reliable are long passé.



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User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 99, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

I don't go to Citgo, for obvious reasons.


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User currently offlinetom355uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 336 posts, RR: 3
Reply 100, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 95):

This is the problem with a personal boycott on such grounds - You can only control so much of the chain you buy into, whether you like it or not; this is especially this case with multi-component products or services.

I personally don't 'boycott' as such; But I avoid the following wherever possible:

- Daily Mirror newspaper: Even worse than the Sun newspaper, a tat-rag of the lowest order. Shortly followed by the Daily Star, a neo-nazi paper for the modern generation.
- Charities that employ people on the street to try and force money from you under duress on busy high streets, by using aggressive and intimidating techniques. Particularly true in the UK for PETA and similar 'organisations'.
- Vauxhall Motors: Poorly constructed, overpriced cars built by militant unionists who exhibit the typical selfish attitude of many union-aligned workers.

Now, I know many won't like my last comment at all - but I believe that unions have divested from their original purpose to represent the rights of the workers and ensure that treatment is 'fair'. They now seem solely interested in forcing the companies whose workers they represent into unsustainable labour agreements - all in the interests of short term gain without any long term viewpoint of the companies viability (see the Rover group as a prime example) and lining the pockets of the executive committees of said unions.

You never see a poor union leader with a non existent pension do you?



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User currently offlinebhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1009 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3239 times:

BMI727, You never cease to amaze me.....

"Render to Cæsar the things that are Cæsar's, and to God the things that are God's"...this statement is not just about money or religion for that matter..Every one of the companies that you mentioned have almost been bankrupted or fallen from the heights of profitability they once had....karma baby karma. And I hate to say this but, with your "capital idealism" your are NEVER going to be happy...as you alluded to above.



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 102, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

Quoting bhill (Reply 101):
And I hate to say this but, with your "capital idealism" your are NEVER going to be happy...as you alluded to above.

To be satisfied is to be bored.



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User currently offlineEricR From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 103, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

While there are a couple companies I boycott for various reasons (ie. US Airways), smaller companies in general provide much better service and generally have better customer satisfaction rating than their larger counterparts. The first thing that comes to mind are banks, but this could apply to almost every industry (ie. restaurants, hotels, etc.).

Quoting TecumsehSherman (Reply 37):
I will boycott anything from Arizona, because of how out of control their right-wing government has become. I won't have anything to do with Arizona.

Ha! You wouldn't know if you are buying something from the state of AZ if it hit you in the face. Some of the parts in the computer you are using right now could have been produced at one of the semiconductor plants in AZ. The shirt your wearing right now could be made out of cotton grown in the cotton fields in AZ, the lettuce you eat could have come from one of the lettuce fields in AZ, the copper in your home could have come from one of the copper mines in AZ. You cannot boycott a state in the same manner as boycotting a company.


User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 104, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

Up to now,I never felt a company should be boycotted based on ones political base.I'll buy based on good service and valued price.

But have to coincide that has been tested this week and I'm favor of a general boycott of Ralph Lauren.

I'm angry that Lauren was chosen and charged the tax payer a fortune to uniform our US Olympians in the upcoming opening ceremonies to also learn that the clothing was made in China.What even is a further insult that Lauren,who is a billionaire several times over, didn't have to outsource the work as his client base is mostly to the rich which he'd have the luxury of comfortable profit line anyway of having them,"Made In USA."But no!

And the clothes are ugly,IMHO.



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User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 105, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

Quoting autothrust (Reply 98):
And they look soooo much better.

That's a matter of personal opinion.

And if German cars are so much more reliable, then why is the selling price for a '09 Accord only $3k or $4k cheaper than a brand-new '12 model? Sure, maybe German cars are more or just as reliable, but there are so many more factors at play. Feel free to boycott them, and I'll feel free to think you're petty.

Just sayin'

 

[Edited 2012-07-14 13:23:18]


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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 106, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 104):
and charged the tax payer a fortune to uniform our US Olympians

You should do a fact check on who is paying for them. Hint, it isn't tax money.

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 104):
What even is a further insult that Lauren,who is a billionaire several times over, didn't have to outsource the work as his client base is mostly to the rich which he'd have the luxury of comfortable profit line anyway of having them,"Made In USA."But no!

Why apply different rules to him?


User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 107, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

Quoting cmf (Reply 106):
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 104):
and charged the tax payer a fortune to uniform our US Olympians

You know what? You're right.I got misled and thought about it that is of charity of funding.

Quoting cmf (Reply 106):
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 104):
What even is a further insult that Lauren,who is a billionaire several times over, didn't have to outsource the work as his client base is mostly to the rich which he'd have the luxury of comfortable profit line anyway of having them,"Made In USA."But no!

Why apply different rules to him?

In this very one case,yes! Lauren should have known better that this could be politically charged since we're suppose to be patriotic and support our team.Even democrats,hard to believe,are angry at Lauren.And Lauren is a heavy contributor to the DNC.So,yes.

[Edited 2012-07-14 14:19:28]


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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 107):
Even democrats,hard to believe,are angry at Lauren.

This is the first issue the democrats and republicans have agreed upon in over 4 years.  


User currently offlinejamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2905 times:

The only company that I truly boycott is Paypal in the sense that there have been several times where I have wanted to purchase or support something, discovered I could only do so through Paypal, and then changed my mind. A large part of that is just my own discomfort with doing business through a poorly-regulated company with a very poor reputation for security though.

Most boycotts don't seem to be overly effective; however, sometimes they are. Most of the time it seems to be when it is related to politics; the Montgomery bus boycott and the swadeshi policy in India come to mind, but even ones such as the Burma Campaign UK.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10804 posts, RR: 9
Reply 110, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

- Lidl, the discount food chain due to their treatment of employees.
- Ryanair as they are the forrunner of the cheap and awful trend in aviation
- any airline that replaces 747s with 777s or other twinjets
- Starbucks, because they drive prices
- most cheap restaurant chains, although I confess I eat at McD once in a while
- convenience food (ok, rarely I buy them, but less than once a month)
- Yellow press and tabloid newspapers like Bild or Sun
- anything from sexshops
- crappy private TV channels like RTL2, Super RTL or Pro Sieben (hours of ads and trailers, bad program aimed at people with an IQ below 80)
- bland car brands: Dacia, Nissan, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Renault, Peugeot, GM
- soft drinks/lemonades (unhealthy, I drink them rarely, but I never have Cola or Fanta or the like at home)
- cosmetics and bodycare products (most are useless and cost a fortune, perfumes often give me headache - there is hardly anything beside a good shampoo, toothpaste and soap in my bathroom)


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2450 posts, RR: 24
Reply 111, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Quoting cmf (Reply 97):
The freshness depends very much on where you are. In Scandinavia Subway typically deliver daily. In US it is typically twice a week.

I was actually mostly talking about my experiences with the subways I have been to in the US.. As far as I know, there's only one very small subway in Copenhagen.. for some reason, many of those chains struggle in Scandinavia.. must have something to do with labor costs and taxes...

Anyway, back in 2008 I was in the US with a few friends.. during the last week of our vacation, we had almost run out of money, so an easy way to save money was to eat at fastfood chains, and so we went for subway most of the time since it seems a bit healthier than most of the other chains.. I only had positive experiences with Subway.


User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 112, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 111):
for some reason, many of those chains struggle in Scandinavia.. must have something to do with labor costs and taxes...

Not according to my sister. She has been opening Subway stores in Sweden the last two (or is it three) years.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2450 posts, RR: 24
Reply 113, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

Quoting cmf (Reply 112):
Not according to my sister. She has been opening Subway stores in Sweden the last two (or is it three) years.

Ok, well.. based on their Danish website, it seems that there's only a handful of subways in Denmark.. must be danish regulations stopping them in that case..


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6157 posts, RR: 29
Reply 114, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2714 times:
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Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
The boycott that I feel most strongly about is of Shell Oil

I boycott Shell Oil for some unknown family reason. My Grandfather, who died in 1958, didn't buy gas at Shell. My father doesn't buy gas at Shell and I don't buy gas at shell. Dad and I aren't sure what the deal is, but it has become a family tradition to not buy gas at shell. I only bought Shell gasoline once and the next morning my fuel tank rusted through and I had 19 gallons of gasoline on my driveway. (coincidence or intervention of the ghost of my dead grandfather?). A couple of years ago my boss gave me a $50 gift card to shell and I told him the story. He laughed and said it would probably be ok since it was a gift and not my money. Nothing bad happened.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 111):
and so we went for subway most of the time since it seems a bit healthier than most of the other chains.. I only had positive experiences with Subway.

I boycott Subway because they now use a "turkey base" for their "pork meats". I think that is just stupid and I am allergic to turkey.



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User currently onlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4037 posts, RR: 28
Reply 115, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2660 times:

Ben & Jerry's

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 3):
You can't boycott the DMV or equivalent unfortunately but more government and less companies will fix our world.

? Contradict yourself much?

Quoting Stratofish (Reply 15):
Please don't take it personally, but, the lack of ANY idealism of someone your age is ...worrying.
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 21):

Worrying? You should be applauding it, as idealism is the enemy of action. Idealism is what moves people to "occupy" things, abandoning hygiene and decency in the name of...something...maybe.

They say that if you are not a leftie when you are 20 you have no heart and if you are not a conservative when you are 40 you have no brain. I respond that luckily I have always been a rational person who values the use of reason. Has saved me from smoking, being a leftie and other stupid things people do when they are young.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 23):

As long as we are still given the right to take our hardly earned money where we want and be able to choose, I will be using this right for as much as I can.

I am fine with that, what I have a problem with is people who. because THEY do not want to shop at Wal-Mart or some big-box store, want to deprive ME from that choice. Just look at all the fuss that happens every time they want to open a new store.

Quoting jamincan (Reply 109):
The only company that I truly boycott is Paypal

Same here - had a horrible experience with them once and have no intention of ever using them again. Worst customer service I have ever seen, too.



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User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 116, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 83):
This is the problem with boycotting. In the end, it becomes silly, or the boycotter realizes that its not that bad after all, or it turns out the reason was actually an urban legend... etc. Or, even more often, people focus on the bad and ignore the good these companies do.

Considering the problem I had with them was the week of the Frank Lorenzo takeover the problem was real. I told them I would never fly them again. (how many times have CSA's heard that one!) And I didn't. I made good on my word and boycotted them for 25 years.
Of course in those 25 years the management at CO changed for the better, and the employees that were involved in the incident that prompted this boycott were long gone from the airline.

In my book this wasn't silly. I had a severe problem with CO, they refused to do anything not even an apology that's why I boycotted them.

What did they do to receive my wrath?
On a flight from PHL-IAH the flight attendant mistook me for a old boyfriend she had that previously had beat her up. First she tried to get me thrown off the plane at the gate because she thought I was "drunk". It was a 9am flight and all I had that morning was a cup of tea and a sweet roll. After being inspected by the gate agent he determined that I was not intoxicated and let me on.

Then when meal service was being served, she referred to me as "that woman beater in 25F, son of a bitch". A soldier got up and asked her what I ever did to her, and she told him that I had put her in the hospital from a beating. Several passengers told this F/A to calm down. I just sat there and didn't say anything more to her. Eventually a F/A from first came back and replaced her.

When we got off the plane I asked for a customer service supervisor and explained the problem to him. He just told me that I must have imagined this all. Things like that don't happen on CO. Besides, he said I had a fake boarding pass(!!) none of their 727's have a seat 25F! So therefore I must have not flown CO. I then told him I would never fly CO again. His response? "See if I care...".


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10804 posts, RR: 9
Reply 117, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 115):
Same here - had a horrible experience with them once and have no intention of ever using them again. Worst customer service I have ever seen, too.

With one exception (they refunded money to a "customer" who I worked for a full day) I never had problems with them.


User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 118, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

Wow ! I only had time to read the first 50 (or so) replies, but after reading just that many, all I can say is..................
I'm surprised that there are any companies still in business, what with so many people boycotting them !

Personally, I think you are trying to "beat a dead horse" by boycotting McDonald's...............judging by the looks of 95% of their "employees", if it were not for McDonald's, where else would so many THOUSANDS of those pin-heads, pea-brains, and re-tards find employment ?

Not to mention the fact that all by myself, I probably eat enough of their McSalads, McFF's, and McCarmel Sundae's to keep them in business for years to come !

Now.........as to who DO I boycott ? Well, pretty much the entire U.S. Motion Picture Industry, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, and of course, the BBC. In addition, I NEVER buy the N.Y. Times; (I won't even read THAT "rag" in a doctors waiting room !)

Target ? I used to love their "catchy" TV adverts, but I haven't noticed any of late, plus, they don't have any stores nearby, and I simply can't afford to drive 250 miles just to not buy from them; (I must say, I was un-impressed with their inventory on the single time I ever visited one of their locations.

Also, there's a motel in south Georgia that I will NEVER return to ! It's a long story, but suffice to say, I was forced to resort to physical violence in order to get my money back, after the desk "clerk" attempted to assault my wife (in the room), while I was waiting in the office. After driving a distance, I called the Sheriff, reported the incident, and the dispatcher said to me........"oh, we hear that all the time about that guy..........just punch him "out"; to which I replied, "I just did" ! (Only in Georgia ! )

Oh, the Best Buy Store in Terre Haute; if I must have anything from BB, I'll gladly drive the 80 miles to Champaign, Ill. to their marvelous "hyper-store", rather than their drab, paltry-inventory location in Terre Haute, (where I'm obliged to go to a minimum of three days a week to take my fiancee' to the dialysis center.)

I once waged a 10 year boycott against any product produced by "Push & Grunt", (which is how many teamsters members in Cincinnati refer to Proctor & Gamble), but alas, it seems that they somehow managed to survive without my business; (I might add though, I have never drank a single cup of Folgers coffee again, to this very day ! )

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7657 posts, RR: 4
Reply 119, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 118):
my fiancee'

Miss Arlie has been your fiancée for a long time, when are you going to make an honest woman of her?


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5599 posts, RR: 15
Reply 120, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 114):
I boycott Shell Oil for some unknown family reason.

To paraphrase someone who paraphrased someone else:

Some researchers were performing a study on learned behaviour. 4 monkeys were wired and placed in a room with a ladder and a banana on the ladder.

Every time a monkey went up the ladder, all the monkeys were shocked. Soon, whenever a monkey approached the ladder, the other monkeys beat the snot out of him.

The researchers then replaced 1 monkey (not wired to the shocker) each week while continuing the study. Of course, the new monkey got the snot beat out of him for approaching the ladder.

Soon, all the original monkeys were gone and only monkeys that had never been shocked nor wired remained. They still beat the snot out of any monkey approaching the ladder.

That sums up my feelings on so many of the long-standing boycotts out there.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineAsturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2156 posts, RR: 16
Reply 121, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

I honestly can't say I boycott any company, it just hasn't come to that .. any company that I'd consider boycotting already has such deplorable service or product that I wouldn't even consider having business with them.

Case in point: Ryanair.

I choose not to fly with them simply because the product they offer don't come close to my standards or expectations.

On the other hand, were their product up to snuff, I'd boycott them because of union issues.



Tonight we fly
User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4749 posts, RR: 3
Reply 122, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 120):
That sums up my feelings on so many of the long-standing boycotts out there.

I agree with you on this one.



Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
User currently offlinePellegrine From France, joined Mar 2007, 2472 posts, RR: 8
Reply 123, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

I boycott WalMart, that's about it right now.

Absolutely horrible company.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Reply 124, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

The term "boycott" has already been appropriately addressed, since it was misused in the context of this thread, so I'll just go with the theme....

Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Wow, I hope this doesn't turn into a flamefest...
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 95):
You should, because you'd see how ridiculous that is.

I concur. I have Jewish friends who drive German cars and don't bat an eyelid about it. What's done is done...we should always remember the Holocaust, but there's reall yno pound of flesh to be exacted upon people who work for those companies who had nothing to do with it and are generations removed in most instances. And your response is brilliant because by the same specious logic, he ought to avoid all American-made products too since the Marshall Plan helped rebuilt Germany's industrial complex...or boycott the steel and rubber suppliers...and so on...



I don't believe in boycotting as a general principle, but there are brands I avoid. I'll never buy another Dodge-Chrysler and will carry that grudge for my lifetime (but not beyond it, haha). And generally out of political inclination, I've tried to unplug from the sewer pipe of Hollywood and such. If they want to be a bunch of wacko lefties, they're perfectly entitled to, but they won't get my dough.

Oh, and life's too short to drink cheap beer, so I don't buy Anheuser-Busch or Miller/Coors/SAB products typically.


User currently offlinePellegrine From France, joined Mar 2007, 2472 posts, RR: 8
Reply 125, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2432 times:

I also try to boycott anything made by Monsanto, derived from Monsanto products, anything that supports the Koch brothers, and any other extreme right wing corporations or owners thereof.

I think some of you guys are missing the point. It's not necessarily about affecting a change in corporate policy or leadership. An individual's choice to boycott is rooted in their desire for their money NOT to support an entity which they do not believe in. Do I believe my boycotting of Walmart, Koch Industries' products, and Monsanto's products will cause the downfall of any of those companies? No...that would be stupidly naive. Am I about to go spend my hard earned dollars to support them? Hell no.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 126, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

The holocast happened 70 years ago. All of the people that made that happen are long gone by now. So the people today running German companies were never a part of that. So unless a German company has shown antisemitism recently I would not hesitate to buy from a German company.

Now if this was back in the 1950's it may be a different story.....


User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 127, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 123):
boycott WalMart, that's about it right now.

Oh no ! I sure hate to hear that you don't shop at my favorite store !


BTW..........what does the Koch make / sell / do anyway ? not sure if I like them or not..............

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 115):
I am fine with that, what I have a problem with is people who. because THEY do not want to shop at Wal-Mart or some big-box store, want to deprive ME from that choice. Just look at all the fuss that happens every time they want to open a new store.

Pyrex, you took the words right out of my mouth ! Wallyworld was gonna build a brand new Super Store in North Terre Haute, right near the dialysis center (where I have 4 hours free time to "loaf" ( or go shopping) on Mon, Wed and Fri, but people raised so much hell, they ended up building it clear out east by Interstate 70, which is much less convenient for me; I still go there a lot, but just not while Miss Arlie is in dialysis. Damn !

Hey.........true story; Years ago, when I was still hauling cars all over, all the Wal Marts were this same old yuckky tan and light brown; no color at all; I finally got so tired of looking at those same damn drab looking stores, I sent them a long letter, pointing out the advantages of having "pleasing colors" on their stores; I even suggested dark blue and bluish gray; don't you know, about 10 years later, they did EXACTLY what I suggested ! ( And never even bothered to thank me ! Must have made them millions by now ! ( And I can't even get a discount on my cat food )

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40014 posts, RR: 74
Reply 128, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 127):
Wallyworld was gonna build a brand new Super Store in North Terre Haute,

You mean the amusement park that the Grizwalds drove all the way from Chicago to Los Angeles to see, only to find out that it was closed for remodeling?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEbz6kvnQDA



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinePellegrine From France, joined Mar 2007, 2472 posts, RR: 8
Reply 129, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 127):

Oh no ! I sure hate to hear that you don't shop at my favorite store !

I don't really care.

Quoting geezer (Reply 127):

BTW..........what does the Koch make / sell / do anyway ? not sure if I like them or not..............

I think you know full well based on your posts in this thread, it is only your political views which provoke you into posting what you have.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 130, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

I just happened to think of something else................I've noticed that there seems to be a lot of "ill will" towards Wal Mart on here; That's OK, it's your choice; however, for anyone who has ever wondered how Wal Mart manages to do so well, I'm going to point out one of their many "ingenious" little tricks they use; ( most people are totally unaware of this ), but it's absolutely true.............you can ask them if you don't believe me.

Have you ever been in a big Wal Mart Superstore, and suddenly you notice that a few rows of those big fluorescent lights on the ceiling are just turned on (or off) ? Ever wondered why ? Or who turned them on (or off) ? I'm about to tell you who..........a computer, that's "who"; and that computer is in Bentonville, Arkansas ! What, you say you're in San Diego?
Doesn't matter ! All lights in all Wall Mart stores are turned on (and of) from Wal Mart Central in Bentonville !

A few years back, while we were still going to Fallen Rock every Saturday night, they were just building the new Super Store in east Terre Haute; this guy who was the electrical contractor on the job, installing all of the lights and lived in northern Indiana, had his travel trailer at Fallen Rock's camp ground while he was doing the job; as I'm kinda interested in wiring, I got acquainted with him, we got to talking, and he explained it all to me; at first I could hardly believe it; I even asked a guy I know who's a counter man at Kirby-Risk, (Terre Haute's biggest electrical supply house ); they supplied a lot of the equipment; he told me it's true.

Finally I met a "big-shot" from Bentonville in a store in Florida, got to yacking, and he explained it to me; they have it all figured out.........it save them like a couple million a year on electricity ! I ask you........who else do you know that operates the light in who-ever knows how many stores, all over the U.S., from ONE place ? It's called, "keeping down the overhead ! ( Prtetty slick I'd say )

Charley



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 131, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Those of you that do boycott companies, I have a question:

Do you ever congratulate, in some form or fashion, companies that do good things? How about Coca-Cola, who many think are to blame for obesity, providing clean water to African countries?

How about Koch, who supports the Red Cross, or their environmentally-friendly buildings?

How about Tyson Foods and the incredible work they've done in hunger relief around the world?

How about Haagen-Dazs and the work they do with keeping honey bees around?

How about Walmart's nearly $1B donated last year for disaster relief, etc?

How about Microsoft, and their $300M+ donated to non-profits last year?

How about some oil companies who are actively looking for green alternatives, or even switching to canola oil or similar for appropriate uses, for example in lubricants?



It's all fine and well to withhold what you can from these companies you dislike, and I am not doubting that there are valid reasons. If you're into political activism, however, how about you play both sides and be politically responsible? If you don't, you just come across as a negative person who finds fault in anything and everything. It's your life, do what you will, but I think most of this could be handled in a better way.

Again, just my two cents.



The above post is my opinion. Don't like it? Don't read it.
User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5599 posts, RR: 15
Reply 132, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 131):
If you're into political activism, however, how about you play both sides and be politically responsible?

Political activism rarely appears as gratitude. It usually manifests itself as outrage. Better pictures that way.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 133, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 130):
Have you ever been in a big Wal Mart Superstore, and suddenly you notice that a few rows of those big fluorescent lights on the ceiling are just turned on (or off) ? Ever wondered why ? Or who turned them on (or off) ? I'm about to tell you who..........a computer, that's "who"

A couple of years ago a buddy of mine took a job with Walmart as a computer programmer. He was surprise at how "leading edge" the company was in technology and in most areas of computing they had the latest and greatest equipment.

Did you know why Target stores have white shiny floors? That's so they can use lower wattage light bulbs in their stores. The reflectivity of the floor lessens the need for wattage in the lighting.


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8732 posts, RR: 42
Reply 134, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2245 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 131):
Do you ever congratulate, in some form or fashion, companies that do good things?

I've written several "thank you" letters after receiving good service, mostly to airlines. Apart from that, I try to focus my shopping on stores that treat their employees better than others.

So all in all, my answer is yes.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 135, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 131):
Those of you that do boycott companies, I have a question:Do you ever congratulate, in some form or fashion, companies that do good things?

I do, by letter or e-mail, or I pass the word to others about their enlightened doings. Of course, some of these are to compensate for their failings elsewhere.

-Rampart


User currently offlinecorocks From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

I can't believe Chick-fil-a has not blown up on this thread or had its own post after the President came right out and said they are 100% against gay marriage.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/19...ge-a-social-media-storm/?hpt=hp_t2


User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 137, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

Quoting corocks (Reply 136):

I can't believe Chick-fil-a has not blown up on this thread or had its own post after the President came right out and said they are 100% against gay marriage.

Off to buy more chicken sandwiches. I haven't had lunch yet. They aren't doing anything illegal, and they make some pretty good chicken, so I'll let my stomach do the voting on this one. No offense to our clan pink folks on here.

Quoting aloges (Reply 134):
Quoting rampart (Reply 135):

Good, I'm glad it goes both ways.  



The above post is my opinion. Don't like it? Don't read it.
User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8421 posts, RR: 9
Reply 138, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

Quoting sunshine79 (Reply 6):
The Sun newspaper - for their phone hacking scandal

And their Page Three?

I think that the people who owned the paper are the ones that need attention. My preference is to take the misused assets from the owners in major abuses like the phone hacking. Maybe some prison time, but they have the lawyers to avoid prison. Asset stripping presents a noticeable punishment.

I'm not really into boycotting companies - I just put my money into companies I like.

I did put QF on my Poo List for some years back in the 80's. I was making a rush trip back to the US because of the death of my Mother. The QF PER-SIN flight connecting to a PanAm fight was puled for a mechanical problem. Not that unusual, nor was it unusual for QF to hold the back-up 744 in SYD until all Eastern States flights were gone. I can even accept the reality that their excessive caution would cause me to miss my connecting flight.

So we land in SIN (the old airport) and passed the Pan Am flight on the taxiways. I was sort of prepared for that.

What I was not prepared for was QF refusing to lift a finger to help me - either getting on another flight OR paying for my 24 hour stay in Singapore. At that time money was pretty tight and I didn't have the luxury of an overnight in Singapore.

Basically QF told me to stuff it. And then it was my turn to tell QF to stuff it. After more than a few years and $15,000+ in fares going to other airlines I returned to flying them. Long term the people pax are in contact with at QF are OK - it is the incompetence at the mid-level manager positions that drive me nuts.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 139, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Exxon Mobil and BP for gas

Walmart

Bank of America and Citibank


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5501 posts, RR: 13
Reply 140, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

I feel never say never but, at least for the immediate future I avoid some of these companies.
  • Sprint (bad experience a lot of $$$ for poor service and reception (Internet and land line phone)
  • HP/Compaq: At least with my family we've had nothing but trouble with their products. We use HP printers at work and lets just say even their commercial stuff has quality and durability issues.
  • Superfresh/A & P: Old school, overpriced a cut above your average bodega.
  • PBS: lousy reception (I don't have cable or satellite) and, their programs don't appeal to me. I guess some would consider me churlish. Every once in a while they have a really cool aviation special and I like Motorweek when I can catch it.
  • Pizza Hut: Their food is less than desirable
  • Olive Garden: I can get better quality for less in my grocer's freezer.
  • Ramada: Tend to be dumpy ghetto style properties (motels)



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