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Bastille Day - July 14 1789 - La Marseillaise  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10908 posts, RR: 37
Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2181 times:

Bastille Day is the French national holiday which is celebrated on 14 July each year. In France, it is formally called La Fête Nationale (National Celebration) and commonly le quatorze juillet (the fourteenth of July). It commemorates the 1790 Fête de la Fédération, held on the first anniversary of the storming of the Bastille on 14 July 1789; the anniversary of the storming of the Bastille fortress-prison was seen as a symbol of the uprising of the modern nation, and of the reconciliation of all the French inside the constitutional monarchy which preceded the First Republic, during the French Revolution. Festivities are held on the morning of 14 July, on the Champs-Élysées avenue in Paris in front of the President of the Republic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille_Day

La Marseillaise" was screamed during the levée en masse and met with huge success

The Convention accepted it as the French national anthem in a decree passed on 14 July 1795, making it France's first; but it was then banned successively by Napoleon I, Louis XVIII, and Napoleon III, only being reinstated briefly after the July Revolution of 1830.[1]

During Napoleon I's reign Veillons au Salut de l'Empire was the unofficial anthem of the regime and during Napoleon III's reign Partant pour la Syrie.

During the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries "La Marseillaise" was recognised as the anthem of the international revolutionary movement and in 1871, it was adopted by the Paris Commune. Eight years later in 1879, it was restored as France's national anthem, and has remained so ever since.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Marseillaise

French National Anthem

La Marseillaise was composed by Claude-Joseph Rouget de Lisle in 1792 and was declared the French national anthem in 1795.

Let's go children of the fatherland,
The day of glory has arrived!
Against us tyranny's
Bloody flag is raised! (repeat)

In the countryside, do you hear
The roaring of these fierce soldiers?
They come right to our arms
To slit the throats of our sons, our friends!

Refrain

Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your batallions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!

(The four stanzas between ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ are no longer sung today.)

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

This horde of slaves, traitors, plotting kings,
What do they want?
For whom these vile shackles,
These long-prepared irons? (repeat)
Frenchmen, for us, oh! what an insult!
What emotions that must excite!
It is us that they dare to consider
Returning to ancient slavery!

What! These foreign troops
Would make laws in our home!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would bring down our proud warriors! (repeat)
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brows would bend beneath the yoke!
Vile despots would become The masters of our fate!

Tremble, tyrants! and you, traitors,
The disgrace of all groups,
Tremble! Your parricidal plans
Will finally pay the price! (repeat)
Everyone is a soldier to fight you,
If they fall, our young heros,
France will make more, Ready to battle you!

Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors,
Bear or hold back your blows!
Spare these sad victims,
Regretfully arming against us. (repeat)
But not these bloodthirsty despots,
But not these accomplices of Bouillé,
All of these animals who, without pity,
Tear their mother's breast to pieces!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Sacred love of France,
Lead, support our avenging arms!
Liberty, beloved Liberty,
Fight with your defenders! (repeat)
Under our flags, let victory
Hasten to your manly tones!
May your dying enemies
See your triumph and our glory!

Refrain

We will enter the pit
When our elders are no longer there;
There, we will find their dust
And the traces of their virtues. (repeat)
Much less eager to outlive them
Than to share their casket,
We will have the sublime pride
Of avenging them or following them!

Refrain

Military parades are held on the morning of 14 July, the largest of which takes place on the Champs-Élysées avenue in Paris in front of the President of the Republic.

Not everyone has the luxury to zip over to France for Bastille Day on July 14 but that doesn't mean you can't celebrate their version of an independence day right from your home town.

Who says you need to count on someone else having Bastille Day events? If all else fails and there is simply nothing happening near you, just grab some wine, cheese, crackers and a few pals and have your own très français party.

  


This to me is the most moving example of La Marseillaise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvBll8L4Hg

Vive la Liberté !

  


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User currently onlineMD11Engineer From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 2003, 14096 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Who has been invited to join this year? A few years ago there was a controversy because Mitterand invited a German unit to participate in the parade.

Jan


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10908 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 1):
Who has been invited to join this year? A few years ago there was a controversy because Mitterand invited a German unit to participate in the parade.

Looking at the official Presidency website, it looks like no foreign units are invited this year.

"There will be French troops who participated to exterior operations, those who served in operations along with the UN in Lebanon, and those who are serving the country at home every day in missions of safeguard and security."

http://www.elysee.fr/president/les-a...amme-du-president-de-la.13574.html

The military parade will start at 10.15 AM.

The gardens of the Elysée Palace will be opened to the public from 3.00 PM to 7.00 PM.



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6017 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

The 2011 parade in so-so quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOwJTlLnbFw

Personally, my fondest memory of Bastille Day celebrations were in the years my family spent our summer holidays in Southern France, where July 14 would always follow a set pattern. After a late lunch we'd head to the local bar to watch le Tour and see the French riders try their hardest to make a break away. And then in the evening we'd take a stroll through Frejus-St.Raphael, finding a nice restaurant to sit down and have dinner at, before walking along the beach and finding a spot to watch the fireworks (which was launched from barges off the coast). And then returning to our campsite late in the evening and soak up the rest of the atmosphere from the party there. Good fun  
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 1):
A few years ago there was a controversy because Mitterand invited a German unit to participate in the parade.

That'd be the Eurocorps, a (then) joint French-German unit.


User currently offlineronglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
This to me is the most moving example of La Marseillaise...

Yeah, I liked that scene from Casablanca as well but I've always wondered why Ingrid Bergman didn't stand up and sing too !!!

Currently, my favourite rendition is by Mirelle Mathieu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxOl1EraXA&feature=related

Vive la France Vive la République


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7931 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

I don't know how I feel about Bastille Day... didn't a mob take a prison guard hostage and behead him? I mean no country is perfect (the US isn't for sure) but that story kinda pissed me off and I don't see why people would celebrate the uprising, even if it kinda did start the independence movement...


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6748 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 1):
Who has been invited to join this year? A few years ago there was a controversy because Mitterand invited a German unit to participate in the parade.

More recently there has been much more controversial stuff, under Sarkozy Bashar al-Assad was invited in 2008, for example.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
I don't know how I feel about Bastille Day... didn't a mob take a prison guard hostage and behead him? I mean no country is perfect (the US isn't for sure) but that story kinda pissed me off and I don't see why people would celebrate the uprising, even if it kinda did start the independence movement...

Well, it's not called Bastille Day in French ! Besides, the Bastille prison was not for criminals, but for political prisoners, it was a symbol of royal tyranny, and the prison's governor you're referring to was a nobleman. When you serve a tyrant, your life doesn't always end nicely. Isn't an argument for the 2nd amendment that the people should be armed in case the government becomes tyrannical ? Do you think that in the event of a revolution in the US, it would be nice and rosy ?



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7931 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 6):
Isn't an argument for the 2nd amendment that the people should be armed in case the government becomes tyrannical ? Do you think that in the event of a revolution in the US, it would be nice and rosy ?

Well that's going a bit out in left field IMO, but I hope if we ever did have an armed revolution, we wouldn't kill hostages. I guess I can't really blame the French though, it was a different world back then, morals were different.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6748 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Exactly. I'm sure the man wasn't really surprised to die that day.

For a long time there was a royalist political party in France (well, there is still one, but it has few members), and one of their arguments besides the fact that democracy is corrupt, is that the revolution was bloody and thus somehow unjustified.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 4):
Currently, my favourite rendition is by Mirelle Mathieu:

To me, Alagna's version is the best one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9_yhBIS6is

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
didn't a mob take a prison guard hostage and behead him?

People decided to go to the Bastille because that's where gunpowder was. They had firearms, but no gunpowder. De Launay, governor of the Bastille, received a delegation of men to negociate the gunpowder, but negociations took quite some time and the impatient crowd started to storm the place. De Launay ordered to fire on the crowd, killing almost a 100 of people. This is where it started.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Anonymous_-_Prise_de_la_Bastille.jpg

No prison guard have been held hostage, but the governor has been stabbed, decapitated and his head put on a pike.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
even if it kinda did start the independence movement

Independence movement? I'm not sure what you are talking about. This was first an uprising against priviledges and nobility, against poverty and starvation, and it ended up in a 10-year revolution that has contributed to radically transform a country. This is different from a fight for independence.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
but that story kinda pissed me off and I don't see why people would celebrate the uprising

This is not just celebrating an uprising. We celebrate it because this is where it all started. Because this is where "modern" France was born. In August 1789, the Assembly proclames the end of priviledges and votes the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen; in February 1790, the French départements were put in place (still in use today) to get rid of the Old Regime unequal provinces and to strenghten unity; in August 1792, the storm of the Tuileries puts an end to monarchy (though it would come back with Napoleon and completely die in 1870); in September 1792, the first ever French Republic was proclamed; in 1793, King Louis XVI is guillotined; in April 1795, the metric system is created and adopted; in 1804, Napoleon writes his Civil Code, which transforms the French society (the general principles of the Civil Code are still in use today), etc, etc.

Our country radically changed after 1500 years of monarchy, and it all started on a 14th of July, 1789.

This is one of the most important times (if not THE most important time) of France.

[Edited 2012-07-10 21:25:59]


"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
User currently onlineMD11Engineer From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 2003, 14096 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2045 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9):

Independence movement? I'm not sure what you are talking about. This was first an uprising against priviledges and nobility, against poverty and starvation, and it ended up in a 10-year revolution that has contributed to radically transform a country. This is different from a fight for independence.

Actually the revolution was started by the pampered elite ( aristocracy and clerus) who thought to use the mob for their own purposes against the king. Only that later they lost control of the mob and got washed away themselves.
The reason for the conflict between the aristocracy and clerus with the king was that they were excempt from taxes, which were only paid by the "third class" (farmers and ordinary citizens). Now the French state was broke and the king changed the law to make the aristocrats and the Catholic clergy pay as well.

Jan


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10908 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9):

Excellent post
Thank you GrahamHill

  

For those who want to cook French on the 14th of July the Epicurious website had gathered a number of authentic traditional French recipes

Bouillabaisse, Crêpes, Soufflés, Ratatouille, Tarte Tatin and Coq au vin with videos showing how to make these dishes. I am sure you will find plenty more if you go through the website.

http://www.epicurious.com/articlesgu...des/blogs/80dishes/france/?mbid=RF

Happy Bastille Day to all

  



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7931 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
even if it kinda did start the independence movement

Independence movement?

My bad, I just equated revolution to autonomy, bad choice of words

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9):
We celebrate it because this is where it all started. Because this is where "modern" France was born.

Makes more sense. Just a little rusty on my French history  



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6748 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Happy fourteenth of July ! Fireworks last night and again tonight for me  
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 10):
Actually the revolution was started by the pampered elite ( aristocracy and clerus) who thought to use the mob for their own purposes against the king. Only that later they lost control of the mob and got washed away themselves.
The reason for the conflict between the aristocracy and clerus with the king was that they were excempt from taxes, which were only paid by the "third class" (farmers and ordinary citizens). Now the French state was broke and the king changed the law to make the aristocrats and the Catholic clergy pay as well.

Well, considering what happened to both classes during the Revolution, they made a major mistake.

But you seem to forget the enlightenment, and bourgeoisie as factors. Besides, the National Assembly was created soon before 14th of July, and the first thing they did was getting rid of the taxes.



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User currently offlineiakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3314 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 3):
That'd be the Eurocorps, a (then) joint French-German unit.

133 men from Jägerbataillon 291 took part in the parade yesterday.

The unit is an element of the Franco-German brigade and is actually stationed in...France.
http://www.garnison-paris.terre.defe...repetitions-tp/jagerbataillon.html


User currently offlinetrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

RAF Typhoons from 29 (Reserve) squadron based at RAF Conningsby also took part.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/typhoons-at-bastille-day-14072012



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User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Here´s the Bastille Day version by RUSH

There's no bread, let them eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth

But they're marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise

Bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow as they rode by

And we're marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled, to let his kingdom rise

Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago the mould was cast

For they marched up to Bastille Day
La guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys


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