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Convince Me The IPhone Is Better Than...  
User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

the Samsung Galaxy S3. Mine showed up yesterday. Until then I would completely agree the old 1st generation Droid I had was blown away by the iPhone.

The Mrs. has a MacBook Pro, iPad 2 and 3 generations of the iPhone so I've seen what Apple can do. The S3 blows the iPhone 4S away. It's lighter, faster, has a bigger screen and Google's Play Store has nearly caught up with one of the best things about the iPhone...the iTunes store.

I didn't think these two phones would be that different but they are. Apple has a slight advantage with the screen brightness and user interface to the iTunes store, but anything I have bought on iTunes can easily be put on my new phone.

It's unbelievably better than the iPhone. Flame away.


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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4838 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3413 times:
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I don't own an iPhone because I believe it is better than a Droid. I own an iPhone because I like it better. I don't believe any phone is better than the other. People have preferences and should find what suits them.

This is going to turn into a childish flame war in 3...2...1...



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19951 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

I had one Android, which was the Samsung CHARGE. I bought it after I dropped and broke my iPhone 4. The issue I had with it wasn't the software, per se, but the quality of the experience.

The battery would give me three hours of 4G and die. It was so power-hungry that it wouldn't charge in the car (just held its charge). It took forever to charge. It crashed left and right. Various apps didn't work well with my specific phone. I found I was force-restarting it three or four times per day (yanking out the battery). The case was flimsy. The only available navigation/GPS/anti-traffic routing programs sucked (no TomTom, no Garmin). I couldn't understand anyone talking to me on the phone, either. I did, however, like "Swype."

I went back to the Apple Store and explained that I'd dropped my phone and how much would it cost to fix it? I was getting ready to play golf with my Android. The Genius said that since I admitted to having dropped it, and I didn't have a history of being obnoxious or trying to rip them off ever, he was going to make a one-time goodwill gesture and replace my iPhone 4 for free.

And that's my Android story.

If you are happy with your Android, good on ya. I'm sure it's better than the iPhone in many ways. We shall see, however, what the iPhone 5 looks like and does. I, for one, will be buying one.  


User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 1):
I don't own an iPhone because I believe it is better than a Droid. I own an iPhone because I like it better. I don't believe any phone is better than the other. People have preferences and should find what suits them.

This is going to turn into a childish flame war in 3...2...1...

That's entirely possible. But, until mine showed up yesterday, I didn't believe the tech community that this really might be an iPhone killer. It's noticeably better.



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3405 times:

So, Doc what if I told you that I had a Droid that I admit sucked just as bad as yours did? But, until this phone my wife stopped laughing at me and said if she had a chance she would have waited and bought the Galaxy instead of the 4S.

I get that Apple has good customer service, but I've never had bad customer service through Verizon. They replaced 2 phones I wrecked over one ski season without charge.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19951 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 4):
So, Doc what if I told you that I had a Droid that I admit sucked just as bad as yours did?

1) It's still too damned BIG. Big screens are nice, but not in your pocket.

2) I have all my music in iTunes and transitioning it all flawlessly is not easy.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Why flame you for being satisfied?

Practically all products are based on tradeoffs. And ideally we find the product with the tradeoffs made most closely to our own needs and preferences. That's pretty much what it's all about.

Other people have other priorities, matched more closely by other products.


User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):

1) It's still too damned BIG. Big screens are nice, but not in your pocket.

2) I have all my music in iTunes and transitioning it all flawlessly is not easy.

Weighs noticably less in your pocket than the iPhone and it's reasonable to watch a movie on it. Moving my music library over to it from iTunes took less than 5 min.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 6):
Why flame you for being satisfied?

Thanks Klaus. With tablets I can see an argument that mac products are better, but I was completely amazed at how much better this phone was than any of the 3 generations of the iPhone the Mrs. has owned.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19951 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 6):
Why flame you for being satisfied?

  


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 7):
With tablets I can see an argument that mac products are better, but I was completely amazed at how much better this phone was than any of the 3 generations of the iPhone the Mrs. has owned.

It depends on your criteria for what "better" constitutes. Great if it ticks all the boxes which are important to you. Even better if that stays the case through years to come.

You've been explicitly flame-baiting with a presumably absolute judgment, but yours is just as subjective as anyone else's, including mine, so any flaming would be completely beside the point.

If you and I were the actual developers of products A and B, respectively, this might have a different weight, but as mere users it just doesn't. Your preferences are as valid for you as mine are for myself.


User currently onlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1873 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 6):
Other people have other priorities, matched more closely by other products.

   Different types of devices exist because there are different types of users.

I personally have no desire to own an iPhone or a Galaxy, simply because:

1) I despise phones that are all-touchscreen
2) They're tailored to the consumer market, whereas I require a phone for both personal AND business purposes
3) I'm employed by one of their competitors 

But if you twisted my arm, I'd go with the S3. Less so because the product is superior, but more because I don't like the direction iOS is going.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4838 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3354 times:
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Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 3):
That's entirely possible. But, until mine showed up yesterday, I didn't believe the tech community that this really might be an iPhone killer. It's noticeably better.

Again, it's all a matter of personal preference and opinion.

Me personally, I know within 2 seconds of picking up a phone whether or not I would consider it over my iPhone. So far I have not found one that has the same first impression and touch responsiveness and fluidity that has left me thinking, man I'd ditch my iPhone for this. I prefer the Apple device so for my needs, the iPhone is "noticeably better".



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2997 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Thread starter):

It's unbelievably better than the iPhone. Flame away.

Congratulations, you've found a phone you like. Guess what? I've got a phone I like too--the iPhone 4S. Each to his own...



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3385 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Thread starter):
It's unbelievably better than the iPhone. Flame away.

How is the battery??

I have the Galaxy Ace and I like it generally (I know its an older model) I think that Android is far more versatile than the I phone OS in terms of how it can be customized, there is the tradeoff that it is buggier Apple has never allowed to user to have that much control but you get potentially a more stable system. I also like that the unit can be opened and that you can put in another memory card to expand the space available. What annoys me is the battery (gives me a day or two depending what I do) and I'm looking at ways to get more out of it.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
It's still too damned BIG. Big screens are nice, but not in your pocket.

I agree, I don't like the size and that is where I think the Iphone is better.



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3134 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
It depends on your criteria for what "better" constitutes. Great if it ticks all the boxes which are important to you. Even better if that stays the case through years to come.

I guess my point is that it does almost all that the iPhone does, so it "ticks all the boxes" except for the nearly seamless integration you see with all Apple products and the iTunes store.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):

You've been explicitly flame-baiting with a presumably absolute judgment, but yours is just as subjective as anyone else's, including mine, so any flaming would be completely beside the point.

I apologize for flame baiting, not really what I intended. The hazards of late night posting.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 10):

1) I despise phones that are all-touchscreen

So, what do you have now? A Blackberry? Just curious. I'm happy to be rid of the Qwerty keyboard. The larger screen on the S3 makes the touchscreen much easier to use.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 10):
But if you twisted my arm, I'd go with the S3. Less so because the product is superior, but more because I don't like the direction iOS is going.

I see Ice Cream Sandwich as a huge improvement over the older iOS. But, as others have said, to each his own. I'm interested to see what upgrade Jelly Bean will be.

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 13):
How is the battery??

Battery life is good. Like most other phones it has a function that conserves battery life. As long as you're not running wi fi or GPS it seems to last well over a day. I'd estimate the battery life at least 50% better than my previous 1G Droid.

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 13):
I also like that the unit can be opened and that you can put in another memory card to expand the space available. What annoys me is the battery (gives me a day or two depending what I do) and I'm looking at ways to get more out of it.

To me that is a huge difference. It was nice to just save everything on my phone to the memory card that I bough 2 years ago, take it out and put it in the new phone. I also like that the battery is replaceable. You might be hard pressed to find a phone that gives you more than 2 days of storage with reasonable use though.

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 13):
I agree, I don't like the size and that is where I think the Iphone is better.

I thought that at first as well, but all the reviews I read about the S3 said you pretty much don't notice it once you get the phone. I find that true. It weighs less than an iPhone (and my old Droid) and it's thinner than both. It easily fits in your pocket and you almost forget about it. That wasn't the case with my old phone.

Personally, I find the 4'' screen a huge upgrade when web browsing or checking email. It's much easier to post on internet forums and send emails.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
I apologize for flame baiting, not really what I intended. The hazards of late night posting.

I took it as tongue-in-cheek anyway, so no harm done.   

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
As long as you're not running wi fi or GPS it seems to last well over a day.

Is that really still an issue under Android? Have you actually tried and compared with and without?

I've never switched off WiFi on the iPhone and battery life has always been quite good. The older 3G chipset in the 3GS had sucked more power on UMTS than the newer one in the 4S does, so I had the 3GS on EDGE much of the time, but that's not necessary any more either.

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
To me that is a huge difference. It was nice to just save everything on my phone to the memory card that I bough 2 years ago, take it out and put it in the new phone.

This is one of the things where you can see the different tradeoffs:

Swappable memory card (Android):
+ quick and easy to swap
+ you can swap between multiple cards
– no proper encryption and thus no effective protection of your private data
– no complete backup/restore solution across devices, so this is pretty much all you've got
– you've got to fiddle with separate internal and external partitions
– "on which card did I have that file or app again...?"


Fixed, encrypted Flash (iPhone):
+ switching between devices is done via backup restore including all apps, settings and data (fully automatic)
+ fully automatic sync and backup is standard (USB/WiFi/iCloud)
+ the entire memory is hardware-encrypted and impervious to even advanced cracking attempts on a stolen device
+ just one large partition for everything; no need to manage free space manually
– no expansion after the fact (you need to buy the big one right away if you will need the space down the road)
– no quick swap (not for thieves or snoops either, though)
– migration restore can take a while with large data sets

This is a classic example of different engineering approaches based on different priorities. Neither is inherently "better" than the other; It's all about which is closer to what you want.

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
I also like that the battery is replaceable.

It's replaceable in the iPhone as well. My 3GS has never needed it, even with its new owner so far. Do you actually own a second battery, or how exactly is it a concrete, practical advantage for you?

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
You might be hard pressed to find a phone that gives you more than 2 days of storage with reasonable use though.

Not really. My iPhone 4S does that regularly.

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
It weighs less than an iPhone (and my old Droid) and it's thinner than both. It easily fits in your pocket and you almost forget about it.

I'll have to try it out; But the iPhone is already near maximum size of what I'd want to have in my pocket, and it's exactly the width and length, not its thickness.

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
Personally, I find the 4'' screen a huge upgrade when web browsing or checking email. It's much easier to post on internet forums and send emails.

I rarely need two hands for operating the iPhone (typing longer texts can be a bit faster with two thumbs, however). Even though I've got pretty large hands, the 3.5" display is near the upper limit of allowing that kind of effortless one-handed use for me without having to balance it precariously.

With the Retina display space isn't a major issue either – I can simply hold it a bit closer and I've got the same visible size as with a bigger device a few centimeters farther away, still without any noticeable degradation in quality and in a smaller, nicer package.

Again, all of the above is my experience in relation to my device with no absolute judgment about other people's needs and their devices. Flaming or inappropriate absolutism is ultimately boring, but chatting about each others' criteria for prefering this or that product can be interesting.


User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
Is that really still an issue under Android? Have you actually tried and compared with and without?

Not sure. I've only had the phone a day, so I'll test it for this discussion. It was for my 1G Droid, but I'll leave everything on and see how long it goes.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):

Swappable memory card (Android):

That is just one of the ways to transfer data from one phone to another. But, Apple's cloud system worked really well for the Mrs. when she buys something through the iTunes store or takes a picture on her iPhone it does go right to her iPad or MacBook Pro.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
It's replaceable in the iPhone as well. My 3GS has never needed it, even with its new owner so far. Do you actually own a second battery, or how exactly is it a concrete, practical advantage for you?

Well..it really doesn't take up any extra weight to add an access panel on your iPhone so why shouldn't it be an option. We covered the battery replacement thing in the thread about how green Apple is, I get that it can be replaced on an iPhone, but that requires you to take it to a store or send it to the company, for most people. I'm sure someone has had to do it with either phone in the past. It may not be you or me, but someone has.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
Again, all of the above is my experience in relation to my device with no absolute judgment about other people's needs and their devices. Flaming or inappropriate absolutism is ultimately boring

Don't take this wrong because it's not meant at you. I find that a lot of people that own the iPhone think it's the best phone because it just "is" and aren't willing to try other devises. That's boring too. As you and others have said, it may not fit your needs. I get that.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 16):
Well..it really doesn't take up any extra weight to add an access panel on your iPhone so why shouldn't it be an option.

You'll have to make various engineering compromises to include a battery door, mostly with regard to stability due to the hole in the back, which in turn enforces either reduced stability or more bulk and weight relative to a unified design (or a compromise between the two). It forces you to make additional compromises. You rarely get anything for free when you're designing stuff.

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 16):
Don't take this wrong because it's not meant at you. I find that a lot of people that own the iPhone think it's the best phone because it just "is"

You mean, such as this one?

Quoting canoecarrier (Thread starter):
It's unbelievably better than the iPhone.

  

My whole point all through this thread and through pretty much every related thread before this one was and is that there is no absolute "better" in most cases. Particularly complex and highly advanced devices like modern smartphones are chock-full of compromises all around.

You don't have the option to get one without any compromises; You can only choose one whose compromises align best with your own preferences. That's it.

And that is inherently an individual consideration, never an absolute one. People talking about "the best" (including yourself) routinely ignore that fact, which is the main cause for at least half the flame wars about such topics.

What everybody's criteria are, what the strengths and weaknesses of the products are and how both fit together is exactly the interesting thing about this.

And for me as a developer myself the fine-tuning of all the compromises and the conceptual decisions and the reasoning behind all of it is one of the most interesting issues of all. Which is why I couldn't care less about judging other people for their preferences – why it makes sense (or may have looked to some developer as if it did) to design certain aspects of a product the way they are. That is where it really gets interesting for me.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19951 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):

I've never switched off WiFi on the iPhone and battery life has always been quite good.

I leave all transmitters/receivers on. Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, and there isn't a way to shut off 3G AFAIK. I can go a good 48 hours without needing to charge unless I'm heavily using the phone (i.e. running the TomTom app, in which case I'd have it plugged in in the car, too). The other nice thing is that my iPhone will charge very quickly on the car charger, which my Android would not do.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18):
and there isn't a way to shut off 3G AFAIK.

In the beginning there wasn't, but they have actually re-enabled that feature for the 4S as well in one of the later updates. Apparently people with just the worst marginal 3G reception had trouble with battery life when the device constantly switched back and forth. Now they can force it to stay on EDGE and save all the energy for dis- and re-connections to 3G.

Your other experiences look pretty much in line with mine.

To your car charger: USB2 can normally supply only 500mA; The iPhone and its dedicated chargers negotiate an extension of that for double the charging current.

It seems your car charger uses the right protocol for the iPhone, but the Android device either can't charge at that kind of current at all or it may just not understand the iPhone-compatible signaling from your charger, so it remains at half charging speed.


User currently onlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1873 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 14):
So, what do you have now? A Blackberry? Just curious. I'm happy to be rid of the Qwerty keyboard. The larger screen on the S3 makes the touchscreen much easier to use.

I have a BlackBerry Curve 9300 and a Bold 9900. The Curve is my personal device and the Bold is my work device. The Curve will be history as soon as BB10 comes out though.

One of the biggest draws for me is the qwerty keyboard, I love it! To rephrase my earlier post: I don't hate touchscreen phones, I just hate touchscreen keyboards. My Bold 9900 has a touchscreen AND a qwerty keyboard, which is the best of both worls in my opinion.



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18):
I can go a good 48 hours without needing to charge unless I'm heavily using the phone (i.e. running the TomTom app, in which case I'd have it plugged in in the car, too). The other nice thing is that my iPhone will charge very quickly on the car charger, which my Android would not do.

I should clarify, if I was to leave my phone mostly alone and not make calls, even my old phone would last for days. I think any phone would draw down if not plugged in if you were running navigation though. After looking up the specs, my phone should work for up to 790 hrs (on standby) or 11+ hours of talk time. Some reviewers say it has 49% more battery power than the iPhone 2,100mAh vs 1,418mAh.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 19):
To your car charger: USB2 can normally supply only 500mA; The iPhone and its dedicated chargers negotiate an extension of that for double the charging current.



I didn't know that. Although charging from a USB port in a car has never taken very long for me.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):
You mean, such as this one?

yes, yes...

Ok comparison here:
http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-apple-iphone-4s-64gb



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 21):
Ok comparison here:
http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galax...-64gb


Not a good source. Apart from the very selective presentation it contains factual errors (yet again – as with all previous comparisons they've done before).

Example: The iPhone does have HDMI output. It also has AirPlay (easier to use than DLNA).


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19951 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 19):
It seems your car charger uses the right protocol for the iPhone, but the Android device either can't charge at that kind of current at all or it may just not understand the iPhone-compatible signaling from your charger, so it remains at half charging speed.

It was an Android charger, anyway. But it was a *LOT* worse than half-charging speed. If the phone was at 55% at the beginning of my drive to work (one hour, give or take) it *might* have made it to 56% by the time I got to work. Once, my phone actually continued to discharge (albeit more slowly than usual) while I was driving with it plugged in.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 22):
Example: The iPhone does have HDMI output.

Yes and no. It doesn't have an HDMI port, which raises an issue with industry standardization.

But the other thing is that the iPhone 4S is obsolete. In fact, it was obsolete from the get-go. Hopefully, the iPhone 5 will be more state-of-the-art. I think that the main reason Apple chose to eschew LTE with the iPhone 4S is because the LTE chipsets available at the time were power hogs. Newer chipsets will be less energy thirsty.

Does the Galaxy 3 have a "Siri"-like function?


User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2841 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):
which raises an issue with industry standardization.

I find it ridiculous that all mobile phones don't have the same power cord or USB adapter.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):

Does the Galaxy 3 have a "Siri"-like function?

The S3 has "S Voice" I don't find "Siri" or "S Voice" particularly helpful really unless your question is really simple. For example, we asked Siri this weekend "when is the next ferry from Seattle to Bainbridge Island?". I got some response about Jamaica. To be fair, that's the same response S-Voice gave me when I tested it yesterday.

Ask either how tall Mt. Rainier is or how to get to I-10 in Phoenix you'd be ok.



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25 canoecarrier : So you just need a different cord? Really the S3 shines when it comes to the camera and video. We took both video and photos with the S3 and iPhone 4
26 Stratofish : I won't participate in a 'this is better than that' discussion here. I currently own a droid and I'm mostly satisfied with it. (I wish they would not
27 cedarjet : ...cos you work for Blackberry! If RiM had been a bit more cutting edge, and still had a future cos they'd gone to all-touchscreen when the market de
28 Post contains images DocLightning : Battery POWER is not necessarily equivalent to battery LIFE. iPhone has excellent power management. My one and only Android had terrible power manage
29 Post contains images DocLightning : OK, fine, then. Don't mind if I do: You know, people like you really piss me off. Always trying to one-up the iPhone. Well there's the tacit admissio
30 Klaus : No, not really. Google is an advertising company which makes its money selling ads to other companies which are targeted to specific groups of users.
31 DocLightning : You need to realize something about Google also, which is that in many ways, Google is very much about the idealism of two young Stanford graduates.
32 einsteinboricua : I had an Android phone and to tell you the truth, I like iOS better. So far, I haven't experienced a crash, phone holds charge for some time, no anten
33 Klaus : That's the veneer on the face of the machine, which is of course necessary to keep the non-paying users on board without too many suspicions. The mac
34 DocLightning : You know, I have a ton of friends who work at Google, many of them high up in the company. I've had dinner with Sergey Brin. I'm not saying we "know
35 jcs17 : I just lost all my music because I stupidly clicked "update" when I plugged my iPhone into my laptop, which was re-formatted a few months ago. I'm ira
36 Post contains images Braniff747SP : It's telling that the standard of smartphones is iPhone. Everyone plays catch-up, and by the time they're done, there is a new iPhone out that they n
37 Braniff747SP : Did you buy them on iTunes? Then you can get them back easily...
38 Klaus : I have no delusions about them being cartoonishly "evil" either. I just see that their actual actions align much more closely with their actual inter
39 Post contains images AirPacific747 : I'd say a mix of Apple products and other manufacturers is healthy for anyone not to become too much of a fanboy when both products have their advanta
40 Post contains images Revelation : Wow, this thread is coming up at the perfect time for me! I am getting more and more frustrated with my android (HTC Thunderbolt from VZW if that matt
41 Post contains images DocLightning : You know, that entire post of mine was a joke. You got that, right? The OP *specifically* asked to get flamed, and I obliged. Actually, I found that
42 Klaus : No, but it is designed to be used the way you would in a car. Siri is also explicitly designed to be used without looking or touching (when activated
43 Post contains images Revelation : Fair enough. For historical reasons, the ultimate source of my music is a PC hard disk. I have an iPod that mostly lives in my car, and I have progra
44 Post contains images Klaus : Well… all my music is on a (Mac) harddisk as well; How else could it be? iTunes by default creates and maintains a regular artist / album / track f
45 Post contains images WestJet747 : A reasonable gripe, but like anything, it all comes down to money. It's really no different than all phones/laptops having different batteries: it's
46 Post contains images Braniff747SP : Of course I did. I just happened to actually agree with your sarcasm.
47 planejamie : The difference? an iPhone just works. It has the support (as Doc said) and even if people flame/complain about them a lot, chances are they've never p
48 Revelation : Thanks! Sadly, there aren't very many artists active in my genre of choice. I didn't communicate this very well. All the files are tagged with album/
49 Klaus : I'm not entirely positive about what iTunes Match will do, exactly. I think it will preserve your special names, but it may not recognize the tracks
50 Post contains images cmf : I don't like all touchscreen because you have no feel for where a button is. Not saying that I want a full keyboard but I really appreciated the extr
51 Post contains images Tupolev160 : Windows Mobile rules
52 Post contains images Klaus : Rules what…? Nokia? That's the only thing that comes to mind. [Edited 2012-07-16 12:01:11]
53 Post contains images canoecarrier : As I mentioned above, the SGS3 I have isn't a tbolt, but it is lighter and thinner than the iPhone. The screen area is what I've found as being one o
54 MD-90 : Rumor has it the iPhone 5 is going to be announced August 7. The Galaxy S3 may be the best right now (too big for my taste, though) but in a month it
55 EricR : One thing I like about some of the android devices is the larger screen. I wish Apple would increase the screen size of their iPhone. However, that is
56 Post contains images Klaus : I doubt that. The likely required new LTE-capable chipsets are not available yet. I rather expect they will more or less stick to last year's date. T
57 sudden : Well, I am not going to say that one is better then the other as I am happy BB Torch user. That said, if you use iPhone you are kind of locked to the
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