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User currently offlineTransactoid From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 788 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

Where did the stereotype of low quality, badly built Russian machinery come from? Was this a pre-cold war or post-cold war notion? Were there specific events that led the development of this stereotype?

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User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

stereotype???



Every flew on an old russian built aircraft?



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineAviatsiya.ru From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

Every flew on an old russian built aircraft?

Yeah, I have. Have you?


User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1014 times:

Yep those old Tu154 from Aeroflot?


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1007 times:

I thought it was post. Subs with rusty joints come to mind.


"Shaddap you!"
User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 995 times:

This stereotype has some basis in fact. A defecting Soviet commercial pilot called the IL-62 a death trap.

User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 990 times:

I didn't know the Russians made stereos!  Insane

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39707 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 984 times:

Well there cars are junk but there planes are well build.


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineTransactoid From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 960 times:

Is anyone going to actually *answer* the question?

User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 956 times:

I think anyone who has been in the former Soviet Union has the impression that every building was about to collapse, and every car was about to rust away into oblivion. The roads were crappy and filled with potholes, and the general level of cleanliness everywhere was not high at all. Russian-made television sets are known to spontaneously combust, as are stereos and other electronic equipment. However, some consumer goods - ie, mixers, vacuum cleaners, etc. - are built like tanks and indestructible. And Russian aircraft - both military and commercial - as well as spacecraft are very tough. Just look at the MIR space station, despite being ancient, having stayed in orbit much longer than it was originally supposed to.

Nowadays, Russian cars are much better than they were, in terms of reliability and build quality. The roads are being paved to better standards, and buildings are being re-painted and plastered, and remodelled inside using Western building materials and methods.

There is an underlying reason for this stereotype of bad quality in Russian machinery and goods. This is the massive industrialisation that took place under the totalitarian regime of Iosif Stalin. Stalin used fear to motivate factory directors to meet his ridiculous goals for industrial development. What really happened was, the goals were not met, or the goods necessary were produced, but much too quickly for them to be made in a quality manner. Stalin never knew the factories weren't meeting their goals, because the paperwork showing what was produced was inaccurate. So...Soviet industry essentially slipped through the cracks. Pollution controls, of course, were never enforced, and goods and machinery were produced quickly, but in a half-assed, sloppy fashion so that they fell apart or were not very reliable. All of this to satisfy Stalin's mad rush for progress.

The truth is, Russian goods and machinery have come a long way. But now, most consumers prefer Western goods, because they have always been better than their Russian equivalents. Russian factories have had to scramble to make products that people will choose to buy, now that they have a choice, and that has not been easy.


User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 949 times:

Never verified it, but I heard the following joke : "What is the main difference between an Aeroflot plane and a Parisian bus ?

- well, in the Parisian bus, you've got handles to hold yourself if you have to remain standing up for the journey"



User currently offlineParra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 934 times:

I think in the UK the sterotype came from Lada cars. There are lots of jokes:



Why does a Lada have a heated rear window?

To keep your hands warm when pushing it.



How do you double the value of a Lada?

Fill its gas tank (petrol tank)


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