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Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?  
User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

So, here's the story: Our garburator just failed and I wasn't able to fix it. So I went to the local Home Depot store, picked up a new one and drove home. Just as I arrived, a friend showed up. I told him what I'm about to do (replace the garburator) and he asked, why did I buy it here, as it may be much cheaper in the USA. Well, I checked on it and I was shocked. It is indeed cheaper in the USA. But i didn't anticipate such difference. The same model costs at the American Home depot $ 219 US. The Canadian price is $ 339. At every single store! OK, the model number differs, the US model number is 76000, the Canadian model number is 7600B. I wasn't able to find out what's the difference between the two. But most likely, the only difference is the bilingual box and user manual for the 7600B.
There is no way I'll keep it. I'll drive to Fort Gratiot and pick up one there. Just for the hell of it. And the one I picked up Sunday is going back to the store.

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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

I had no idea what a garburator was until I looked it up on Wikipedia.

Depending on where it's made I'm sure there's some sort of tax that helps to explain the price difference.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

Quoting WildcatYXU (Thread starter):
garburator

That's awesome. I thought it was a typo. Was wondering why you went to Home Depot for that.



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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
Depending on where it's made I'm sure there's some sort of tax that helps to explain the price difference.

According to Insikerator's web site it's made in the USA. So there should be no duty or tax other than the HST.


User currently offlineGEEZER From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

What the hell is a "garburator" ?


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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

According to Google, it's a "Garbage Disposal Unit".

A bin, basically.  


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8697 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 5):
A bin, basically.

far from it

It's a motorised shredder that lives under the sink in many North American kitchens and gives European visitors a heart attack when they confuse its power switch with that for the light. Naturally, I have only heard of such mishaps.   



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User currently offlineronglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1392 times:

Funny you should mention "bilingual" and "Fort Gratiot". I often go into the Lowes store over there, just for the same price difference reasons you talk about.

I'm always amazed by the complete bilingual (English / Spanish) signage in the store. You'd think they were on the Mexican border at Laredo, TX instead of the Canadian border at Fort Gratiot, MI.


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
I had no idea what a garburator was
Quoting fr8mech (Reply 2):
I thought it was a typo.



I asked myself what it is when I saw it for the fist time under the counter. But it was 7 years ago and now I really like it.

Quoting aloges (Reply 6):
gives European visitors a heart attack when they confuse its power switch with that for the light.



Actually, it scares the bejesus out of the North American home owners too when they hit the incorrect switch  
Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 7):
I often go into the Lowes store over there, just for the same price difference reasons you talk about.



Certainly. However, I'm surprised that the stores on Canadian side don't try to adjust their prices.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1262 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1287 times:

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 4):
What the hell is a "garburator" ?

I've never heard this term either. I think "garbage disposal" is way more common here. Maybe it's a Canadian term.

Anyway, I wonder why they're not common in Europe as well. I find them absolutely indispensable. I just got a one horsepower beast which is whisper-quiet but can handle anything I throw at it- even half-frozen bits of chicken.....



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User currently onlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 9):
Anyway, I wonder why they're not common in Europe as well. I find them absolutely indispensable.

Because in most European countries the municipal administrations charge you for waste disposal by only accepting special sacks - to be bought against a not-too-small fee - for disposal. As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1242 times:
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Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 10):
Because in most European countries the municipal administrations charge you for waste disposal by only accepting special sacks - to be bought against a not-too-small fee - for disposal. As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.

I doubt it. There is no such system in the UK and you still find such equipment very rarely in people's homes.

Edit: Clarification - not that I am doubting AustrianZRH's opinion on the matter, just saying that it is clearly not the only issue.

[Edited 2012-08-07 13:25:03]


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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 10):
As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.

Garbage disposal units are prohibited, by law? That's insane.

I've installed one in every home I've owned. Hell, the apartments I've lived in have them.

Here's a gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaudUAHZinw



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User currently onlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 12):
Garbage disposal units are prohibited, by law? That's insane.

They tried to ban them in Raleigh a few years ago. The Mayor got all of his facts messed up and listened ot a bunch of folks that knew nothing about what they were talking about in terms of grease. Fun stuff.

However Garbage Disposal is the term used in the US.



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5424 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1217 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 9):
can handle anything I throw at it- even half-frozen bits of chicken.....

I watched a show and they are supposedly designed to handle chicken bones etc. as a part of their normal operation. And I do normally put chicken bones down it.

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 10):
Because in most European countries the municipal administrations charge you for waste disposal by only accepting special sacks - to be bought against a not-too-small fee - for disposal. As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.

How would they know? And they really don't harm the sewage/waste water system process (I get that they want the money but it wouldn't cost them any more at least).

Quoting casinterest (Reply 13):
However Garbage Disposal is the term used in the US.

I always call it the "dish grinder". Hate it when that small spoon or fork gets down there (and yes, I know spoons and forks etc. aren't technically "dishes" but it "utensil grinder" doesn't work as well....   )

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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6531 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

Here we pay for garbage disposal and water treatment with local taxes so it's not about money directly, now I don't know if having most of the kitchen waste go into plastic bags is cheaper to handle than if it goes down the drain.

I did some digging and it turns out garburators are illegal in France, probably because nothing has been sized to take them into account.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9789 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1170 times:
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Quoting zckls04 (Reply 9):
I've never heard this term either. I think "garbage disposal" is way more common here.

Yep.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 12):
Hell, the apartments I've lived in have them.

My apartment has one, as did the house I grew up in. We used it all the time.

Amusingly, the model name imprinted on them was always "In-SINK-erator". Honest to god, I did not get that until last year. After seeing it for 29 years. Somehow, it just never occurred to me.



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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 15):
I did some digging and it turns out garburators are illegal in France, probably because nothing has been sized to take them into account.

Hmm, strange. I don't know the pipe sizes in France, but in the old country - Slovakia - sink drain pipes start at 2" diameter, compared to 1.5" here. So the sizing certainly isn't a problem. Yet nobody ever heard of a garburator in Slovakia either.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 16):
the model name imprinted on them was always "In-SINK-erator"

Actually, that's the brand name. The model names differ.
http://www.insinkerator.com/en-us/Pages/default.aspx


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9789 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1140 times:
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Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 17):

Actually, that's the brand name. The model names differ.

Ha, that's funny. When I first typed my post, I wrote "Amusingly, the brand name imprinted on them..."

Then I thought about it, and decided that was more likely the model name.

Oh well, I still didn't get the name for 29 years.  



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