stasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3298 posts, RR: 7 Posted (2 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 4949 times:
2013 Honda Accord sedan
The redesigned 2013 Honda Accord will go on sale this fall in the USA with a "noticeably" shorter length, a new drivetain (including a very-Nissan Altima-ish continuously variable transmission and a plug-in hybrid) and lots of added tech "bells and whistles" engineering (including the new HondaLink cloud-based system, giving access to Bluetooth streaming audio, Pandora internet radio, SMS messaging, Facebook audio, audiobooks and personalized restaurant services, all integrated into the dashboard and utilizing voice recognition for hands-free control!) and other changes that Honda hopes will increase the Accord's 11 percent share of the mid-sized car market, just a point ahead of the new generation Altima - and far behind the class-leading (and also newly restyled) Toyota Camry. Accord sales have dropped the last 5 model years in a row here in the USA as the size of the existing US model Accord increased to near Chevy Impala proportions and lost alot of its previous road-handling attributes.
Honda released the first official images of the production version of the Accord today (see above) to the automotive press. No pictures of the interior were released, however. Hopefully, Honda learned its lesson with the grossly-decontented Civic interior it tried to sell in the current model CIvic... which has been almost universally hated for its extreme cheapness, which led Honda to quickly redesign the dash and instrument panel of the Civic!
The 2013 Accord sedan -- weighing less than the outgoing model, but featuring more passenger and trunk room -- features flush windshield glass, flush-mounted windshield wipers, enhanced underbody aerodynamics, and LED daytime running lights, headlights and taillights.
Honda -- clearly aiming for U.S. sedan buyers attracted to the more "emotionally" styled competitors - meaning the current Hyundai Sonata, Kia Optima, and the new Toyota Camry and Nissan Altima - and the standout 2013 Ford Fusion (nee Mondeo) -- calls the Accord the "most sculpted and dynamic Accord ever."
The base engine will be a 2.4-liter inline-four with 181 hp and 177 pound-feet of torque, Honda said in January. That would mean a slight horsepower increase but considerably more torque, with at least 10 percent better EPA fuel economy, according to Honda.
All four-cylinder versions of the Accord that are equipped with an automatic transmission will be fitted with a continuously variable transmission. Honda has also re-engineered (to increase power and fuel efficiency) the Accord's 3.5-liter V-6 engine and paired it with a new six-speed automatic transmission or an available six-speed manual gearbox . The 2013 Accord will also be offered as a plug-in hybrid. Honda did not release full technical details or expected sticker prices yet, but given the competitiveness of the mid-sized sedan market, pricing should be fairly close to the current model.
stasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 4911 times:
Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 1): Interesting that they've used such an unflattering shot for the launch shot. The rear 3/4 almost looks as though it's from a different car. About as bland as its Camry competitor.
2013 Honda Accord - Official Honda Photo
It's bland, agreed. And looks a bit like the Hyundai Genesis from the above official photo, IMHO. But much better then the current U.S. market Accord, which is oversized AND uber-bland.
[Edited 2012-08-08 21:40:09]
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Kent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 1014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 4862 times:
The current Accord isn't too bad for what it is, topping a number of best large family car under $50k lists here in Australia (we get Thai builds). It addresses a couple of the TSX/Accord/Accord Euro (latter name here, as both are sold as Hondas) issues having the V6 option and a less criminally tight back seat. But it is bloated with a comparatively downmarket interior in comparison. Hopefully it drives better than the Hyundai.
It might look boring but it's probably exactly what the market wants. It's sometimes hard to imagine that the same country that gave the world the iPad has such a predictable taste for cars but when it comes to big-ticket purchases the Americans tend to play it safe. A car purchase is the second most-expensive item for a typical household so it stands to reason that you'll stick with the tried-and-true rather than risk the reliability of the sexy new Italian. Add to that the fact that close to 90% of the country's population require a reliable commuter car that will start every morning and the car is relegated to a commodity status.
That said, I see an improvement here over the current Accord - a MUCH needed improvement as buyers have started to switch to Hyundai/KIA products as well as facing a re-emergence of the domestic brands (brand new and greatly improved Malibu and Fusion just around the corner). A smaller, lighter, more efficient, roomier, a bit more stylish and better equipped Accord sounds like a winner to me.
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4810 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 4761 times:
As a current Accord (coupe) lesee with a lease up in January, I am a bit underwhealmed with the changes. Depending on my living situation (trying to move from Upstate NY to metro NYC) Im looking at either the Acura ILX or Ford Fusion (5 door).
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
wingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2534 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 4755 times:
Boring it may be but if it can get me 130,000 miles in 7 years without a single, and I mean single, mechanical breakdown, then it's worth it. I drive an '05 hybrid (now extinct) and sometimes wonder about buying a different car but my own experience tells me it's one of the smarter decisions in my life. These people make some quality product, very useful to drive your friends to the BMW shop to pick up their 3-series after replacing a defective $1000 left blinker that took 3 weeks to ship in from D-land.
Don't get me wrong, I'd buy a 3-series if I had $50,000 lying around and I loved mechanics, but it's a resounding "no" on both counts.
Smittyone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4657 times:
Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter): and lots of added tech "bells and whistles" engineering (including the new HondaLink cloud-based system, giving access to Bluetooth streaming audio, Pandora internet radio, SMS messaging, Facebook audio, audiobooks and personalized restaurant services, all integrated into the dashboard and utilizing voice recognition for hands-free control!)
Should have said this in my previous post...but am I the only one who doesn't care about all of this stuff?
I'm glad I can plug my MP3 player in easily, but I can do without them constantly adding electronic crap whose obsolescence cycle may well be shorter than the vehicle's lifespan (for exhibit A see the overhead aisle TVs on the Boeing 757 LOL).
TheRedBaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2690 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4640 times:
Quoting Smittyone (Reply 9): Maybe they'll return to the days before car interiors were designed specificially for ADHD-afflicted people. I swear I hate the inside of just about any car built after 2000...
Golf Dash in an example in Simple, ergonomic and straightforward..... no bells and a sea of buttons..
VonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4644 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4522 times:
Yet another boring sedan from the Japanese. They've really lost their way.
Quoting Smittyone (Reply 15): That's nice. Too many of the modern dashes are just a mishmash of angles and knobs!
Totally agree. I love the understated yet refined look of German car interiors. The worst have to be new Hyundai's and even the new Ford Fiesta (even though I like Ford). They just scream "I'm trying too hard!"
Smittyone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4423 times:
Quoting Max Q (Reply 18): I would consider it if they improve the drivers seat.
What is it with most car makers these days with their conviction that everyone once a lumbar support that, even deflated is the size of a beer barrel !
Interestingly I found the Ford Fusion drivers seat to be hell also. It has these "supports" going up each side, much higher than in my Civic...in effect they push an average height man's shoulder blades inward turtle-style. Since I try to sit up straight with my shoulders back (wards off neck pain) the Fusion would be a no go for me.
Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 17): The worst have to be new Hyundai's and even the new Ford Fiesta (even though I like Ford). They just scream "I'm trying too hard!"
This reminds me of that new Honda commercial where they ask the "other brand" salesman if the car has an Econ button and he's like "Wiper buttons, radio buttons, super buttons, buttons inside of buttons, buttons controlling other buttons" LOL.
Newark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4416 times:
I guess they're making like Nissan and the latest Altima, and trying to make it look like their upmarket brand. Unfortunately Acuras don't look like much of anything right now so I don't know if that'll help. Still, you could do much worse than an Accord in this segment, although the last really well-liked one seems to have been the '03 to '07 model (might have the years a bit off.)
Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2896 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4406 times:
Quoting Smittyone (Reply 20): This reminds me of that new Honda commercial where they ask the "other brand" salesman if the car has an Econ button and he's like "Wiper buttons, radio buttons, super buttons, buttons inside of buttons, buttons controlling other buttons" LOL.
Which is hilarious considering Honda/Acura is one of the worse offenders of having too many buttons.