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Women-Only City To Be Built In Saudi Arabia  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10906 posts, RR: 37
Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

No men allowed! Only women.

I wonder if Saudi Arabia will agree to issuing visas for single foreign women travelling alone who have an interest for this new city and wish to go there to visit... provided they agree to the local dress code?

No man’s land: Women-only city planned for Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is to build a new city exclusively for women. The Gulf kingdom is working on the narrow junction between strict Sharia law and the aspirations of active females who wish to pursue their own careers.
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The ambitious mono-city is now being designed with construction to begin next year. The municipality in the Eastern city of Hafuf is expected to attract 500 million riyals (US$133 million) in investments and it will create around 5,000 jobs in the textiles, pharmaceuticals and food processing industries. There will be women-run firms and production lines for women.

read more:
http://www.rt.com/news/women-city-saudi-sharia-339/

   


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User currently offlineALTF4 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

i.e. a lesbian fortress in the middle east?


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User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12727 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

I think that place will be paradise, three weeks out of the month!

That fourth week will be sheer hell!

I hope the chocolate shops will be able to deal with the surge!



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3444 times:
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If I said what I thought of this idea I would get a ban.


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User currently offlineSmittyone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 3):
If I said what I thought of this idea I would get a ban.

I thought this was from The Onion.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10906 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Doesn't the word "Haluf" in Arabic translate into "pig"?
I was always told that calling someone with the name "Haluf" was the ultimate insult in Arabic.



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User currently onlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3503 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3358 times:
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The name is HAFUF not Haluf, huge difference.


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10906 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 6):
The name is HAFUF not Haluf, huge difference.

So sorry about the misreading. I am tired. I should have been more careful. Thank you SOBHI for correcting me.

I find this idea of an all-woman city extremely interesting. I would certainly like to see it with my own eyes after it comes to life.

     



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21681 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3262 times:

Just when you thought there was some progress from Saudi Arabia in the field of women's rights when they actually sent a female athlete to the Olympics, they go and pull this nonsense.   

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 3):
If I said what I thought of this idea I would get a ban.

  

-Mir



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3184 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
Just when you thought there was some progress from Saudi Arabia in the field of women's rights when they actually sent a female athlete to the Olympics, they go and pull this nonsense.

I think its progress. It's a mix between the conservative traditions with contemporary movements for women's rights. A city where women will be able to be their own boss, work, get an education, play sports...all away from the eyes of men who "are tempted to do things to them".

The true progress will come when traditions are observed only in private life and do not interfere with everyday life.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21681 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
I think its progress.

Quite the reverse. It provides an excuse to continue the current misogynistic practices everywhere else in the country, because one can point to this city and say "if women really want more equality and rights, they can just move there, we don't really have to change the way we do things".

Separate is not equal. If you have to go to a specific city to have rights, you don't have those rights.

-Mir



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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
Quite the reverse. It provides an excuse to continue the current misogynistic practices everywhere else in the country, because one can point to this city and say "if women really want more equality and rights, they can just move there, we don't really have to change the way we do things".

Separate is not equal. If you have to go to a specific city to have rights, you don't have those rights.

Completely agree. This is a horrible "solution" but it is a great sign that things are happening. They would never suggest something like this if it wasn't because pressure is building.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7961 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
I think its progress.

I think it is a form of apartheid, not progress.



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User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3184 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 12):
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
I think its progress.

I think it is a form of apartheid, not progress.

I would consider it apartheid if women are FORCED to live there and subject to bad living conditions, yet it's only a place where women can choose to go if they want. Saudi Arabia is already an apartheid place where women can't go where men are and are basically a possession, not human beings. At least this city is the kingdom's way of making that "second class citizenship" more tolerable. It's wrong, but it's their way of life.



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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Will women be allowed to drive in this Shangri-La? Otherwise without the ubiquitous Bengali taxi driver how are these ladies going to get to work at these fabulous jobs?

Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
Quite the reverse. It provides an excuse to continue the current misogynistic practices everywhere else in the country, because one can point to this city and say "if women really want more equality and rights, they can just move there, we don't really have to change the way we do things".

I'm waiting to hear the religious leader who is going to freak out about this because it will encourage lesbianism without a man to keep the woman on the straight and narrow and protect them from all the evils of the liberal Western world.


User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5492 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
Just when you thought there was some progress from Saudi Arabia in the field of women's rights when they actually sent a female athlete to the Olympics, they go and pull this nonsense.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this as a step back for women in The Kingdom. It's reminiscent of "seperate but equal".



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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3548 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

I wonder if the women will have a semi-normal life in such a city or will they need to be completely covered and unable to do things men are able to do such as drive. Being Saudi-Arabia I wouldn't hold my breath....


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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

How is the mayor of this new city going to be elected?

I thought women over there aren't allowed to vote.



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User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
No men allowed! Only women.

Europe has had "women only" cities for centuries. They are called "nunneries".  

On a more serious note, is what is being planned an actual city where people live or is it merely an industrial/ commercial centre where women will commute to work? The details in the report are unclear.

Quote:
The new plan is to combine women’s desire to work in the modern age and provide a job environment that would go hand-in-hand with the country’s Sharia law.

The emphasis here appears to be on work rather than living.

Quoting Airstud (Reply 18):
I thought women over there aren't allowed to vote.

Last September, King Abdullah announced that women will be able to vote and run in the 2015 local elections, and be appointed to the Consultative Assembly.


User currently offlineGEEZER From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

As long as there are so many things in my own country so "screwed up", I hardly feel qualified to tell the Saudi's how to run their country! If the Saudi ladies are comfortably with it, I'm tickled pink !

Charley



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21681 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 13):
I would consider it apartheid if women are FORCED to live there and subject to bad living conditions, yet it's only a place where women can choose to go if they want.

Of course they're not forced to go there. They only have to go if they don't want to be treated as property, if they don't want to be subject to the every whim of their husband, if they want to be able to run a business, to do something meaningful with their lives, etc.

It's de facto apartheid.

-Mir



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 20):
As long as there are so many things in my own country so "screwed up", I hardly feel qualified to tell the Saudi's how to run their country! If the Saudi ladies are comfortably with it, I'm tickled pink !

Charley

Best post in thread. I'm not big on cross culture judgements (though I have to draw the line at stoning). A lot of our ideas and norms just don't make sense when exported. Bikini Volleyball, anyone?


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
Saudi Arabia is to build a new city exclusively for women. The Gulf kingdom is working on the narrow junction between strict Sharia law and the aspirations of active females who wish to pursue their own careers.

Hmmm that does sound quite interesting, but what if they're married? I guess this could be a gigantic pool for an oil mogul to choose from for their (up to 4) wives.

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 1):
i.e. a lesbian fortress in the middle east?

  

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 6):
The name is HAFUF not Haluf, huge difference.

Hey so what have the news been saying about this? I'm assuming you guys don't really have politcal pundit debates, but I'm curious to know from your country's media standpoint.

Quoting comorin (Reply 22):
Best post in thread. I'm not big on cross culture judgements (though I have to draw the line at stoning). A lot of our ideas and norms just don't make sense when exported. Bikini Volleyball, anyone?

Question: would the hijab be required? I don't think it'd be needed, because who would they be enticing sans cover? Lesbians?


Another question: sooooo no visitors by guys interested in multicultural females?        Not even a one-week vacay stay?   



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39906 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

Quoting Airstud (Reply 18):
How is the mayor of this new city going to be elected?

I thought women over there aren't allowed to vote.


I'm gonna be the mayor. 
Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
Quite the reverse. It provides an excuse to continue the current misogynistic practices everywhere else in the country, because one can point to this city and say "if women really want more equality and rights, they can just move there, we don't really have to change the way we do things".



  
My guess is that einsteinboricua is trying to say that going from the Stone Age to 1870s US Jim Crow era is a step forward.
Personally I think strict Islamic rules mixed with feminism is worse than hell of earth.



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User currently onlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3503 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2980 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
I'm gonna be the mayor.

Dream on my friend.         

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23):
Hey so what have the news been saying about this? I'm assuming you guys don't really have politcal pundit debates, but I'm curious to know from your country's media standpoint.

As i am out of the country with my wife, i am married to one only, i will try to respond to that on my return.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23):
Question: would the hijab be required? I don't think it'd be needed, because who would they be enticing sans cover? Lesbians?

It will be similar to the compounds that exist all over Saudi, women are free to wear what they like, i presume no men moral police will be aloud in anyhow.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23):
Another question: sooooo no visitors by guys interested in multicultural females?        Not even a one-week vacay stay?   

I don't think my wife will allow such a vacation   

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
Personally I think strict Islamic rules mixed with feminism is worse than hell of earth.

I know your feeling about Islam, but feminism?  



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25 Post contains images PHX787 : You know what's interesting, they give you guys so many "freedoms" and controversial human-rights related stuff that would be considered quite taboo
26 Superfly : I don't like feminism either. I used to be a bra burning feminist until I woke up an realized that they hate guys like me.
27 Post contains images Revelation : Maybe the King in all his Wisdom will provide a tent full of socially acceptable eunuchs on the edge of town to relieve the suffering of his female s
28 comorin : Hey, I'm not into that bondage stuff....
29 Revelation : At least you have a choice in the matter, unlike Saudi women...
30 SOBHI51 : Those compounds are usually for foreigners working in the KSA, they usually have clubs inside they are more open women do drive in them also they do
31 Revelation : Over here the joke goes: Q: What is the penalty for bigamy? A: Two wives!
32 Post contains images PHX787 : Hmm I see, but when it comes to infrastructure, how far is it from access points (airports, etc)
33 SOBHI51 : They are usually within the big cities Riyadh, Jeddah and Dammam.
34 Larshjort : Over here it's two mothers-in-law. /Lars
35 Post contains images Superfly : Thanks. It would be hilarious if some guys showed up with free booze and got all these ladies drunk. Arabian Ladies Night? Seriously I'd hope that th
36 PHX787 : It would take a huge, cataclysmic event to cause that to happen. That place is the birthplace of Islam.
37 Revelation : And IMHO even more fouled up than the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity...
38 cmf : I'd say just floating the idea to create women only cities is a sign. Not the sign I'm hoping for but a sign things the ball is rolling.
39 Superfly : I guess. That would put them within 130 years of the West, so I guess it's an improvement. Wake me up when they have their counter-culture and free-l
40 SOBHI51 : Give me the reason why should KSA follow the West in everything? Can women go to church without covering there hair, or wearing a short skirt? Do i w
41 FRAspotter : Balls roll both forward and backward...
42 Mir : Because the women of the KSA are human beings, and they deserve the rights of human beings. That means having autonomy from their husbands, being abl
43 MadameConcorde : Women going to church services without covering their hair? Most always, including ultra-conservative churches. Women going to church services wearin
44 Post contains links luckyone : Without getting too far off topic, that is already a problem in Saudi Arabia, brought in by guest workers but now spreading. http://www.undp.org.sa/s
45 blrsea : If men have the freedom to have sex with as many women as they want to, then they can spread sex to their wives too. So it is not like only women are
46 Post contains links and images OA260 : You don't need to cover your hair to go into a church and neither should you feel the need to . The short skirts and appropriate attire I will conced
47 SOBHI51 : For the exception of driving, women in KSA have much more freedom than you want to believe. They do own there own businesses, in a matter of fact 3 o
48 PHX787 : I give you a lot of respect but this is a little outdated: 1) not many people are going to church anymore 2) the people that do have this "dress to i
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