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Obama Celebrates Ramadan In The White House!  
User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12450 posts, RR: 25
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/10/obamas-iftar-dinner-menu/

Quote:

Friday night President Obama will host his fourth annual Iftar dinner in the State Dining Room to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. During Ramadan, observant Muslims fast from sunup to sundown and often break their fast with a communal Iftar dinner in the evening.


Oh my! Obama celebrating the Muslim holy month in the open, right in the State Dining Room! See, he really is a Muslim! What is this world coming to???

Quote:

The tradition of hosting an Iftar dinner at the White House began under President Clinton and has been continued by both President Bush and President Obama.

Sigh, I guess we can't use it against him...

Next!

[Edited 2012-08-11 07:02:16]


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User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5586 times:
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As long as they have dinners to celebrate other religious holiday's I'm fine with it. I have participated in events that are from other religions than mine and I like it.


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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5552 times:

IFTAR!!! Yum!!   

(Iftar is the feast after sundown, for all you kaffirs!).





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[Edited 2012-08-11 07:58:07]

User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5547 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 3):
(Iftar is the feat after sundown, for all you kaffirs!).



I thought we were Infidels.  



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12450 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5518 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
We all know how awful Dubya was as President, so I guess Obama is just as bad. After-all, he only compares himself to Dubya.

Nah, he compares himself to Clinton, who was the last President to have a balanced budget, although he has questionable taste in women (Hillary, Jennifer, Monica, etc.). I'd take Michelle over any one of them. BTW, is she a closet Muslim too?



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

Obama: "My Muslim Faith"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&f...ture=player_embedded&v=bMUgNg7aD8M

He said it in an interview. I doubt the voice was faked. It sounds like him.



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User currently offlinembmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
The problem is that he is the ONLY President that had Ministers arrested for praying in front of the White House on the National Day Of Prayer.

So Obama had ministers arrested? Please cite your source.

Also cite your source that proves Obama is a Muslim.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5498 times:

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 7):
So Obama had ministers arrested? Please cite your source.

Yes sir!

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/drake-352841-pray-washington.html



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5495 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 4):
I thought we were Infidels.

Oops!!! 'Kaffir' is the term for Infidels. Apologies to any who were offended.


User currently offlinembmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5477 times:

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 7):
Yes sir!

And where does it say that Obama or his administration had this minister arrested?

Also, where is your link proving Obama is a Muslim?


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5465 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 9):
Oops!!! 'Kaffir' is the term for Infidels.

Just want to make sure that I'm an Infidel.  
Quoting mbmbos (Reply 10):
And where does it say that Obama or his administration had this minister arrested?

It's the opening line of the article. Obama lives in the White House.
I seriously doubt an Imam would have been treated like this.

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 10):
Also, where is your link proving Obama is a Muslim?

Why bother?



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User currently offlinembmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5450 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
It's the opening line of the article. Obama lives in the White House.
I seriously doubt an Imam would have been treated like this.

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 10):
Also, where is your link proving Obama is a Muslim?

Why bother?

So you won't support either claim in any sort of serious way?

Security arrested the minister following a set of rules established for all protesters. Getting arrested for protesting is nothing new and many groups - liberal, conservative and everything in between - break rules for gathering as a group as a way to get attention for their cause. Standard operating procedure.

To pretend this man was arrested for his religious beliefs is extremely dishonest.

And those who insist Obama is a Muslim in light of all we know are either willfully ignorant or simply mendacious.


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11584 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5442 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
It's the opening line of the article. Obama lives in the White House.
I seriously doubt an Imam would have been treated like this.

Security told the group to move. They did not move, so they were arrested. They were NOT arrested for praying. They were not arrested by Obama himself. It was White House security who arrested them. They were arrested for not following the rules and being too close to the fence. This is not about religious freedom, as you (and the article) would have us believe. It is about a religous group breaking the rules. They were told to move and they didn't. If an Imam were told to move along and didn't, he would be arrested as well. Tell me again how Obama hates Christians?



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 12):
And those who insist Obama is a Muslim in light of all we know are either willfully ignorant or simply mendacious.



Continue with the insults with those you disagree with. It really helps the discussion.
I don't need to prove anything to you and besides, we've argued this over and over again. Not sure why you're expecting a different result.
Personally, I don't like his associations and he seems very comfortable with this religious group. If he was consistent, then I'd respect that but his is not. He makes many rosy quotes from the Qu'ran but the only time I recall him quoting the Bible was when he was mocking it. Personally I am not a religious person but I see Obama to have a religious bias that I am uncomfortable with.



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User currently offlinembmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
I don't need to prove anything to you and besides, we've argued this over and over again.

...and yet you still won't cite any sources. And you never have. But you're content to continue smearing the President, using unfounded claims.

It seems you would like to frame this discussion as two parties who simply disagree. This isn't simply about disagreement; this is about one party in the argument who refuses to support his claim by citing facts.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 15):
...and yet you still won't cite any sources. And you never have.


Actually I have but after awhile, people get sick & tired of arguing. I had given you one source and you were not satisfied with it. I had been to the same fence those preachers were arrested. I seriously doubt an Imam would have been arrested in the first place. There is no way in hell that this current White House would do such a thing.

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 15):
It seems you would like to frame this discussion as two parties who simply disagree. This isn't simply about disagreement; this is about one party in the argument who refuses to support his claim by citing facts.


...and there is so much information out there for you. But of course it's so much easier to just call people "ignorant" or simply "mendacious". Why even bother wasting my time having a discussion?



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19565 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 12):
Security arrested the minister following a set of rules established for all protesters. Getting arrested for protesting is nothing new and many groups - liberal, conservative and everything in between - break rules for gathering as a group as a way to get attention for their cause. Standard operating procedure.

And then they go "But we were praying! And we're Christian! You're persecuting us for being Christian!"

Next thing to happen is that a church bus will get pulled over for doing 95 MPH and some right-wing paper will say: "CHURCH BUS PULLED OVER FOR BEING CHRISTIAN"


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6606 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5385 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
I had given you one source and you were not satisfied with it.

And no where in your "source" does it say the Obama administration ordered the arrests, no where. So you have no source.


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11584 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5371 times:

So, Obama is allegedly Muslim but he sat in a Christian church for 20 years. But, that wasn't the right flavor of Christian church.

Tell me again what the religous test is for someone to be president?



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User currently offlinembmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5336 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
Why even bother wasting my time having a discussion?

...and yet you still won't cite a source. You really don't have anything, do you?


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19565 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5264 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 19):

So, Obama is allegedly Muslim but he sat in a Christian church for 20 years. But, that wasn't the right flavor of Christian church.

Classic hate speech tactic, really. "He's a Muslim."

This implies: 1) All Muslims are bad. 2) Once a Muslim, always a Muslim. 3) You are a Muslim by birth or by inherent characteristic; there is no way to convert away from being a Muslim, even if you sit in a Christian church for 20 years.

Just like Hitler saying that 1) All Jews are bad. 2) Once a Jew, always a Jew 3) You are a Jew by birth and renouncing your Jewish faith means nothing.

I don't casually draw Hitler parallels, but I calls 'em when I sees 'em.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
Actually I have but after awhile, people get sick & tired of arguing. I had given you one source and you were not satisfied with it.

OK. I'm still playing. Please cite the part of your source that states that Obama or his administration had anything to do with it. I will point out that no President or administration directly runs the the day-to-day operation of the physical White House, including security.


User currently offlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5189 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
Yet he continues to offend Atheist by hosting these Ramadan dinners.

The atheists I know only seem to be offended by anything Christian and nothing by any other religion. They also claim to know more about religion than the faithful, but usually don't, they just can quote a lot of bible verses they don't make sense. Nearly all of the atheists I have met are people who were raised and Christians lost their faith for some reason or another. They seem to have more of a problem with Christians than religion in general. Maybe if I was in another part of the world where Christianity isn't as common I may find more atheists who just seem to dislike their former religion.



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
there is no way to convert away from being a Muslim

Some Muslims would say you cannot convert. I have had several Jewish friends who say that you can't stop being a Jew because it is a race as well as a religion.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 5):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):We all know how awful Dubya was as President, so I guess Obama is just as bad. After-all, he only compares himself to Dubya.
Nah, he compares himself to Clinton

But he blames all of his problems on Bush.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19565 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 22):
The atheists I know only seem to be offended by anything Christian and nothing by any other religion.

Well, then meet a different one. I'm offended by any religion that preaches that subscribing to that religion makes you better than other people.

I have no problem with any religion that preaches that you should simply be a good person.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 22):
Maybe if I was in another part of the world where Christianity isn't as common I may find more atheists who just seem to dislike their former religion.

Most atheists in this country have a problem with Christianity because it is so-called "Christians" trying to ban the teaching of science in schools, abortion, birth control, gay rights (and sometimes even gay breathing), etc. So far, Muslims have not been on that bandwagon even though their religious beliefs would concur because those same "Christians" think that their religion makes them better than everyone else, especially Muslims.

I assure you have at least as big a problem with right-wing Islam, Judaism, and Hinduism. However, those religions aren't causing that much trouble in this country.


User currently offlineimiakhtar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

The defining characteristic of muslims, the most important pillar, are the five daily prayers. There is a consensus amongst the scholars that if you intentionally forego your prayers then you're not a muslim. From the little I've read, Obama doesn't pray, therefore he's not a muslim.

User currently offlinerara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2078 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
Why bother?

One of two classic Superfly bailouts, the other being "give it a rest already".

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):
He said it in an interview. I doubt the voice was faked. It sounds like him.

Of course that's him. It's 100% clear from the video what he means by it.

How does that work - if I say "In all my life, it's never happened that I intentionally put somebody else's house on fire", you take out "[...] I intentionally put sombody else's house on fire", and suddenly I'm a convicted arsonist?   I gotta remember that one.



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25 seb146 : The athiests I know are offended by religous zealots who insist on believing their way. People who believe United States is a Christian nation or tha
26 sprout5199 : God I really hate these posts. I need to look to see if G.W. hosted any Ramadan stuff, bet he did. Lets get to the real point of this. PRESIDENT Obama
27 blink182 : Yep, sure did. According to the article linked at the start of this thread, the iftar dinner was started by Clinton and continued by Bush. This happe
28 DocLightning : As an atheist, I find your religious views to be intellectually irrational. BUT I have no problem with you holding them if that's what pulls you thro
29 sprout5199 : Doc, as a Christian, I take offense to you actually knowing why religion exists. You should be put to death as soon as the last connoisseur of 8-trac
30 GEEZER : My "source" is right on my face; they're called "eyeballs" ! If you would use your's as much as you do your keyboard, maybe you'd be able to see what
31 Post contains links and images Confuscius : Superfly, I found you a link from followers of Rabbi Meir Kahane to support your claim. ... http://www.jtf.org/ http://flix.tapuz.co.il/v/watch-24495
32 Post contains links Quokkas : And not just dinners for Muslims but for Jews as well. Shock, horror! On May 10, 2010, the White House issued a press release noting that on Thursday
33 LTBEWR : I appreciate President Obama's openmidedness as to faith, not just giving in to Christian absoluists including acknowlgment of those of the Islamic fa
34 Post contains images Confuscius : You just might be right...(no pun intended). Hmmm... [Edited 2012-08-11 19:53:21]
35 seb146 : Saudis and Yemenis, IIRC. Why does their nationality matter? Oh that's right... since Jews intertwine their religion with their nation it is the only
36 BMI727 : Who parked a bomb laden truck in front of the Murrah Federal Building? It wasn't Muslims.
37 Confuscius : ....or Centennial Olympic Park...or UNiversity & Airline BOMber. Tim McVeigh? Eric Rudolf? Ted Kaczynski?
38 Newark727 : So okay, you have the extraordinary power of detecting Muslims simply by looking at them. You can also tell by pure context-free association that Oba
39 seb146 : ALL MUSLIMS!!! Oh, wait....
40 CaliAtenza : yeah most of the GOP is racist though; just look at the 2008 election....
41 Post contains links something : You can't agree or disagree with lies, in the same way that you can't agree or disagree with facts. They're not open to interpretation. You're implyi
42 Post contains images Superfly : I guess we need to learn from the U.K. how to better integrate Muslims. Afterall it seems to be working sooooo well in your country. Now I'm offended
43 Post contains images Revelation : Speaking of lumping diverse groups togethere, good job of characterizing all religious people as desperate people needing to be "pulled through" life
44 SFBdude : How many different religious dinners / recognitions / celebrations have there been in the white house under Obama or any other president?
45 Post contains images Superfly : That's 'your' experience. My experiences have been different. Perhaps you need more experiences. I show zero "concern or sensitivity" towards those t
46 Revelation : Right, but we're talking about how others get lumped in with those that "aim to kill and have zero tolerance for others with views that do not line u
47 mbmbos : We missed your post citing the evidence Obama is actually a Muslim too. Where is it?
48 Superfly : I don't care. It's not incumbent on a US President to 'reach out', appease and apologize to any religious group. The burden is on the peace loving on
49 DocLightning : Nope, the GOP's anti-Islam behavior is wearing thin. And all those right-wing terrorists in the US, like the one who shot up the Sikh temple and the
50 Newark727 : He's not appeasing and apologizing. He's acknowledging that a prominent world religion has an important holiday. Not a bad thing for the leader of a
51 cargolex : In other words, you don't have any sources. I've watched you say these things again and again and again. It isn't that people get sick and tired of a
52 Revelation : I'm not offended, just pointing out that you are lumping all religious folks together. It's just as close-minded as someone saying all gays are membe
53 DocLightning : What exactly is wrong about it? No. I'm just going with a factual definition. By definition, all ABRAHAMIC religious people believe in a supernatural
54 Post contains images Superfly : No need to. All of those bombers have been tried & convicted and send to jail by other Christians. Yes I have but there is no reason to dig up ol
55 andz : Come here and use that term, you will be in jail so fast your head will spin. That term is HIGHLY offensive to the majority of South Africans, it is
56 SFBdude : Why?
57 cmf : Almost every word has a bad meaning somewhere. Something my uncle and cousin love. The live on helping companies find least offensive versions of goo
58 flipdewaf : Did the Obamas celebrate Christmas? Fres
59 Revelation : Ok... I'll give it a go... I'm a Christian who: > Doesn't believe in a magic man in the sky > Does believe there is a God > Does believe God
60 Post contains links Quokkas : The usual suspects put out rumours that there wouldn't even be Christmas Trees at the Whitehouse but as the following link shows this, like pretty mu
61 SFBdude : Well, I'll quote my earlier post that hasn't been responded to yet (maybe it got overlooked) If so, were any of those turned into a big deal around he
62 Post contains links and images cmf : Well there was the very long Seder dinner thread, that I never saw. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2.../04/09/obama-to-host-seder-dinner/ Then th
63 Quokkas : @ SFBdude,reply=61 The first president who took official notice of Hanukkah was Jimmy Carter, when he lit the National Menorah. He was the first Presi
64 SOBHI51 : Superfly, i am a Muslim, something you know already, i refuse your accusation that all Muslims are out there with the only aim is to destroy and kill
65 Aesma : Not really what I was taught as a Catholic, must be a Protestant thing. I was taught that god loves us no matter what and the punishment for sin was
66 DocLightning : Really? You never learned about Hell? I find that very hard to believe. These statements are mutually exclusive. You either believe in God or you don
67 seb146 : ummm.... no.... I was raised in a Protestant sect. My partner was raised Catholic. So much self-hatred and self-punishment in the Catholic religion f
68 Post contains images rara : That can't be right. Some sins are rather pleasurable. If the punishment for premarital sex is premarital sex, I fail to see the deterrent.
69 Post contains links Revelation : I believe in God, the exact form God takes is obviously up to debate. So, is a closeted homosexual gay? Or are you only gay when you come out to your
70 seb146 : And, after all this discussion on Christianity, it has yet to be pointed out to me where in the Constitution it says there is a religous test for pres
71 SOBHI51 : Some here will accept that Obama can host any religious celebration, but when it comes to Islam, they start seeing red.
72 DeltaMD90 : I'm not sure I believe in Hell actually. I feel that everyone (even Hitler) is loved and will pay in some way even if it's in extreme guilt but I bel
73 DocLightning : A Christian believes that Jesus Christ is the path to salvation. Salvation from... hell. What exactly hell means is up to interpretation. Now, can I
74 Revelation : Well, you are just wrong. There are many Christian sects that do not believe in hell. There are many that believe Jesus died for our sins and thus ha
75 afterburner : You believe that you have real evidence(s) like the terrorists believed that killing Americans would send them to heaven.
76 flipdewaf : Is there any evidence to suggest that Obama is Muslim? No. Would there be a problem if he was a Muslim? No. Can a non Muslim have a party to celebrate
77 bhill : flipdewaf, because like the 2nd Amendment, alot of folks here in the US do not REALLY understand what the 1st Amendment means. Hence all of the end ru
78 flipdewaf : As far as I understand it (as an outsider), the first amendment basically says anyone is free to choose any religion and believe what they like witho
79 bhill : Flipdewaf, the original idea, as I understand it, was for the State to not recognize ANY religion such that recognizing it would have influence on the
80 DocLightning : I'm sorry but... wait... what?
81 cws818 : During the 2008 campaign, Gen. Powell made the astute observation that even if President Obama were Muslim - "so what?" Why is that necessarily a bad
82 rara : By all likelihood, a Muslim would not be elected president in the United States. Whether for the wrong reasons or not, this is undeniably so. In that
83 bjorn14 : Wait til they do then they'll want to kill all the homosexuals. As the old saying goes "You are the company you keep" Then by that logic 96% of black
84 comorin : Look, his name is Revelation so we have to listen to him. As for Hell, I just finished reading The Divine Comedy and there is no way Mr. Alighieri co
85 Post contains images flipdewaf : No its not. Ah yes, old sayings: the weather vanes of opinion truth As a half sister it would be dificult to dermine wheather she thought of Baracko
86 SOBHI51 : I am a Muslim and i have no intention of killing anybody, As for sexual preferences, it is not for me to decide if this is wright or wrong, your choi
87 Revelation : What is the rational basis for love?
88 Post contains links flipdewaf : http://www.braincrave.com/viewblog.php?id=664 Science suggests that "romantic love engages a motivation system involving neural systems associated wit
89 seb146 : Same thing as: the bombing of Pearl Harbor was carried out by a country who practices Shinto. Therefore we can never ever have anyone in office who p
90 NASCARAirforce : I'm not Christian but I celebrate Christmas.
91 SOBHI51 : Nobody can accuse Mrs Clinton of being Muslim, she hosted also an Iftar dinner at the State Department and wished Muslims happy Eid.
92 soon7x7 : Mr. Obama himself. The "call to prayer" according to the lips of Mr. Obama is "the most beautiful sound in the world". Right from the sources mouth.
93 DocLightning : That proves he's Muslim?
94 Post contains images Smittyone : Now there's a respectful reference to the legally elected President of the United States.
95 DeltaMD90 : There are a few nasheeds I like more than any Christian song I've heard... does that make me Muslim? (I'm Catholic btw)
96 Post contains images Rara : No, but only because you're not the President of the United States.
97 mbmbos : I'm surprised you can't believe that a person who belongs to one faith cannot appreciate and see the beauty in a ritual, song or prayer of another re
98 seb146 : I like the story of St. Sebastian. I guess that makes me Catholic. I have seen some really cool yamikas. I guess that makes me Jewish. I also like th
99 bhill : Soon7x7....whot?????? I'm not Catholic or Episcopalian, but I often tune into Compline services on the radio. Very relaxing. You need to think REALLY
100 SOBHI51 : I know and sing few Xmas songs, does that make me a Christian? I studied in a catholic school does that make me a Christian? I have a lot of Christia
101 Revelation : Guess liking Bing Crosby's "White Christmas" is an automatic baptism?
102 cmf : Written by a (converted?) jew.
103 soon7x7 : C'mon...I know your smarter than that. Wasn't a thought...it was a fact. Your statement is not in the same context. You are a moderate Muslim and if
104 mbmbos : Yes, of course we will demand you cite sources and examples. We don't have a Muslim president. And yet you continue to assert that. And what are free
105 Rara : You then explicitly ask us not to ask you for sources, and then.... ... you keep mentioning 9/11. What the hell does 9/11 have to do with American Mu
106 seb146 : No because a majority of the media is controlled by right-wingers who believe all Muslims are evil. Which is really too bad that they can't tell the
107 starbuk7 : Since everyone in this thread is asking for sources, I would certainly love to see a source for this comment!!!!
108 Post contains images DocLightning : I am. Some people apparently aren't. When you asked to cite a source "proving" that Obama is a Muslim, you said that his contention that the Call to
109 SOBHI51 : Then, call him for what you really don't like in his way of running the country. But accusing him of being a Muslim is not one of his shortcoming, if
110 DeltaMD90 : No wait a minute, you can't do that to us. I'm all about listening to various opinions, but really, how does him thinking it's the most beautiful sou
111 Quokkas : Simple answer might be that they don't want to. The old, old story: you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
112 Maverick623 : That was almost as bad as reading the Time Cube website.
113 seb146 : FOX is on everywhere. Dial around AM radio and you hear right-wing rhetoric. This board is constantly quoting and citing right-wing sites. Yet, when
114 Post contains images soon7x7 : The obvious fallout from such an event would be anti muslim sentiment...does it really have to be explained?
115 Post contains images soon7x7 : I will...I don't like his policies, his arrogance and quite frankly his skin color nor his religion have anything to do with how I feel about his Pre
116 Rara : Yes, but..... wait, what? Is THAT the justification of your own anti-Muslim sentiment? That other people think so too? First you say that Obama is a
117 cmf : Very clearly explanations are needed. It is time to understand that blaming every Muslim for what a few people did isn't productive. We don't think e
118 soon7x7 : If I pocessed Anti-Muslim sentiment I would not have any dialogue with SOBHI51...think about it. In fact I look forward to dialogue with him. He is o
119 Rara : What's there to think about, it's a nonsensical statement. What does one thing have to do with the other. You could theoretically hate someone and st
120 soon7x7 : LOL...that's kind of funny actually but no, it's not the case. I reside in an extremely diverse area and have my entire life. Live and let live. It i
121 Post contains images ATTart :
122 seb146 : So he is part of a group that attacked us on 9/11 and we should hate every single one of them but he also sat in a Christian church for 20 years whos
123 soon7x7 : Think we are beyond this rhetoric...So he celebrates both Christmas and Ramadan...good to keep everyone confused...think Mr. Obama is the one that sh
124 mbmbos : President Obama, not "Mr. Obama" (please show some respect for the office at least!), has made up his mind long ago and I accept his statements of be
125 starbuk7 : Nice that you conveniently left out ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN, the other liberal news sources and the only one of the top six is conservative so this do
126 DocLightning : Has it occurred to you that these are not actually liberal news sources, but balanced news sources? It turns out that reality has a strongly liberal
127 Post contains images Maverick623 : It's all relative. While I don't consider any of the major American news networks to be neutral, most are not inherently "liberal" or "conservative",
128 Post contains links Quokkas : Various Muslim organisations, both in the US and elsewhere, have published condemnations of terrorism. Just one of many links to Muslim condemnations
129 soon7x7 : Art 11. is a dog with no teeth. I really don't see its relevance to anything discussed here. Yes they are. I stated that earlier. Religion aside , Mr
130 seb146 : PRESIDENT Obama should make up his mind about a private matter that means ABSOLUTLY NOTHING per the Constitution of the United States of America? Why
131 Maverick623 : Stick your fingers in your ears all you want, but it exists, it was ratified unanimously, and it completely and utterly destroys any argument that th
132 DocLightning : It is relevant to any revisionist (revisionism is by definition lying) that claims that this government was founded on Christian principles. It was n
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