Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7843 posts, RR: 8 Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2681 times:
The Speakers list for the GOP Convention is out.
Looks like the GOP has switched from boobs to blubber for the Keynote Speaker, but I guess that Poor Sarah doesn't excite Romney's Team.
Ron Paul is also out. But then all of Romney's opponents (except Rick Santorum) will not be given important speaking jobs. Heck, I was looking for Rick Perry and Herman Cain having one last moment in the spotlight.
And, of course, Presidents Bush and VP Cheney are really not desired either.
Love him or hate him, I don't think that "excite" and "Romney" belong in the same sentence. The man is stiffer than a concrete wall.
In all, I think that this is an encouraging sign for the GOP. I may not like Christie's politics, but in general he is a conservative, rather than a "Constitutional and Religious Fundamentalist" (people who loudly beat the drum of both Bible and Constitution and actually follow neither, like the Tea Party). That bodes well for the GOP. I think they are starting to get the idea that the Tea Party is loud and gets a lot of attention, but that it's going to cost them a lot of votes.
I'm speaking on a NATIONAL level, not State or local. AFAIK, the Republicans (including myself) are tired of her and wished she never existed. The whole point I was making was that it seems like the GOP wants nothing more to do with her.
She is an embarrassment to me and my fellow GOP'ers.
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 17900 posts, RR: 57 Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2554 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7): I'm speaking on a NATIONAL level, not State or local. AFAIK, the Republicans (including myself) are tired of her and wished she never existed. The whole point I was making was that it seems like the GOP wants nothing more to do with her.
She is an embarrassment to me and my fellow GOP'ers.
Yup, but she's yours. And, as bjorn points out, her favorites are still winning local elections. In the process, they are absolutely stopping up the federal government.
The GOP has a problem. They can't change their bylaws to oust the Tea Partiers and the Tea Party seems intent on taking over the GOP. The Tea Party seems to be able to win House elections in certain districts, but they can't take many Senate seats and they've proven that a Tea Party candidate on a national ticket (Palin for VP) is an outright disaster.
One solution is to split the GOP in to the Tea Party and a new party ("Whig" has been thrown around). The trouble there is that you split the conservative vote between two parties leading to a liberal plurality. Perhaps if the new "Whig" party were more libertarian on social issues and more conservative on fiscal issues, they might be able to snag some Democrats.
The other solution is to press on ahead and hope that the Tea Party fizzles out. But I don't see that happening as long as Obama is in office.
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8): And, as bjorn points out, her favorites are still winning local elections.
Keyword here: Local. And I hope it stays with that way in any relation or connection with Palin. IMO, she has no business on the national level. Look how much she screwed it up with McCain. But McCain is also to blame for allowing Palin as his running mate.
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Truthfully, the Tea party has their speaker in the form of Paul Ryan. There is no need for Sarah to flub it up and put ideas and words out that can come from Paul and Romney himself. This is a big reason why the GOP picked Ryan.
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Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7843 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
Quoting D L X (Reply 3): You have the seed of a very good topic but you blew it with your opening.
Have you looked at Christi lately?
The guy is morbidly obese.
It is clearly a sign that the guy has no self control, regardless of his status as a Governor.
I believe that the blubber (that means a LOT of FAT) was the reason why he wasn't Romney's running mate. Disclosure of his health records (including weight, BP and a1C) would be more damaging than his tax returns.
I also believe that unless the public puts some pressure on him the guy will be dead before he can serve in DC at an important level.
So I'll stand by my opening statement. Bit of sarcasm, but spot on for Christi.
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7843 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21): If you're going to attack Christie, attack him on his politics, not his waistline.
I've ben pretty clear that it is the waistline that keeps Christie from being a reasonable national candidate. He is a medical disaster waiting to happen. That is one thing for a Governor, but a totally different thing for the VP slot. His weight makes it unnecessary to worry about his politics at the national level.
But watch him in 4 years. Look for a 34 to 36" waist - demonstrating self control that he simply doesn't have right now.
einsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2373 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2333 times:
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 25): I've ben pretty clear that it is the waistline that keeps Christie from being a reasonable national candidate. He is a medical disaster waiting to happen. That is one thing for a Governor, but a totally different thing for the VP slot. His weight makes it unnecessary to worry about his politics at the national level.
Are you kidding? He's the perfect example of how far you can make it in America: eat whatever you want, weight whatever you want, make it to politics and don't worry about health...I'd say that's the American Dream with a bit of help from McDonald's among other restaurants.
"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
25 LTBEWR: The choice of Chris Christie for the Keynote speaker for the Republican Convention is an understandable choice. He fits in well with several sub-group
26 cws818: While that might be true, he could also have a medical condition that accounts for his waistline. There could also be a genetic predisposition to bei
27 EA CO AS: As the saying goes, all politics is local.
28 bjorn14: I think you both of you got it backwards it was McCain who screwed up the ticket. Do you think McCain would have drawn crowds of 60,000+ if he had pi
29 casinterest: Palin energized the base, but she turned away the Independents. You don't win a race for the center by swerving to the right or left. Honestly lookin
30 ER757: Have you seen Huckabee lately? Seems that the weight's going back on in no small measure. Reminds me of a line I heard a comedienne use once long ago
31 Ken777: There was a time a while back where he talked about having a beer & a pizza that night - and watching a game on TV. Actually Pelosi has significa
32 AirframeAS: That is what I just said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reply 10, as you quoted but ignored: You skipped that part, bjorn. Tsk tsk tsk...... LMMFAO!!!!
33 zippyjet: I'm a Democrat and I feel your pain. It would be like having Jimmy "Jihad" Carter speaking at our convention. And at least Palin is worth nalin. Coul
34 DocLightning: She energized the base, yes. And she cost him swing votes with her bumbling "'Murrica" platitudes. Especially the "Real America" gaffe. Some of the s
35 zippyjet: Playing devil's advocate: Most of us are built more like Mr. Christy. So, it is very likely that he could become POTUS if he runs in 2016 hippo build
36 bjorn14: If Palin is so unimportant why do other politicians including Obama and the media feel the need to repond to her the same day? BTW, She seems to have
37 casinterest: It's not that she is unimportant. She is extremely polorizing, and she is a key reason the GOP tanked so bad in 2008.
38 bjorn14: Again, I would argue McCain would have lost even worse if she had not been on the ticket. Many GOPers would have just stayed at home if it was a RINO
39 casinterest: If those types of folks that belive in such things as RINO's stayed home it would be much better for the civilized world
40 Dreadnought: Yeah - the concept of constitutionally limited government is SO dangerous...
41 casinterest: No the concept of list of things to be a Republican and calling people RINO's is . I don't care if the Tea hacks, go off and form their own party. Bu
42 Alias1024: A smart move for the GOP. Gov. Christie has shown to have national appeal with his plain spoken style, and ability to avoid foot-in-mouth moments that
43 stlgph: I agree with you it's smart to put Christie on the national stage, but I suspect the other side will come out swinging with the NJ unemployment rate.
44 Ken777: Might be, but the guy likes beer & pizza. Even with the procedure there would need to be a dramatic change in what he eats. He can't go from a la
45 DocLightning: It is when you pick and choose what the Consitution says and doesn't say. For example: people claiming that Obama is unfit to be President because he
46 Dreadnought: While I have some issues with some of the examples you cite, I don't want to sidetrack the argument. You might argue what the Constitution says or no
47 Ken777: One wonders what the Founding Fathers would have done if they were given knowledge of how the country would develop. Say, how medicine would develop,
48 Mir: So when Republicans do things that don't appear to line up with the Constitution, they're just using a different interpretation of what it says, wher
49 Dreadnought: There have been plenty of Republican Progressives, From Teddy Roosevelt to Richard Nixon, GW Bush and John McCain. I chose my words carefully - I did
50 Ken777: What has been done for the past few generations is that Congress has passed Laws and Presidents have signed them. That was set out in the Constitutio
51 Revelation: Keep it classy? Nah... Too bad. She was the Viagra of the GOP - she gave so many of the "old guard" stiffies they hadn't had in years. I'd go with ste
52 Mir: You sure as hell implied it by only stating that leftists and progressives ignore the Constitution and the rule of law. Never mind the fact that ther
53 bjorn14: And the Electoral College is a function that comes from what document? Too bad, so sad. Yeah when Reagan's tax cuts went into effect, revenues rose a
54 Revelation: Yeah, those Democrats, big fans of the B2 bomber, Iowa-class battleships, 600 ship Navy, etc...
55 Dreadnought: That's because when the left refer to it as a "living document", they always seem to mean it in the sense of being able to interpret it any old way t
56 Ken777: Ain't that the Truth! Pity we can't have a national election where the candidate who won the popular vote would win the election. All we got in 2000
57 GEEZER: There is no doubt that Gov. Christie is considerably overweight; but I see overweight (morbidly obese) people every day when I go to a local restaura
58 Revelation: Given the man's supposed aspirations to be President, I think it's fair game. It's sad if the Governor of New Jersey chokes on a cheeseburger or take
59 Ken777: Considering the shorts he has taken at people making far less than he does and considering that he chose to be a public figure then, Yes, I do believ