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Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.)Claims That Victims Of "legi  
User currently offlineATTart From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 638 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5709 times:

Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) Claims that victims of "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant.

There is also a video of him being interview, making this claim.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1807381.html?utm_hp_ref=politics



[Edited 2012-08-19 14:46:26]


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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8182 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5660 times:

I read that on WaPo, along with his feeble attempt to backtrack.

It reminded me of the old saying - "If men had babies abortion would be a Constitutional Right". Todd Akin is simply your basic idiot looking to stick his nose in the uterus as a way to get votes. The most conservative women I have known over the years generally take a position of keeping politician's noses out of their uteruses. It really makes them angry - sufficiently so to respond in the voter's booth.

Pity that the GOP is stuck with a yo-yo like Todd Akin. I thought the party would have had something better.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8785 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5621 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 1):
Pity that the GOP is stuck with a yo-yo like Todd Akin. I thought the party would have had something better.

That is part of the Tea Party platform - getting the GOP out of the whole abortion issue at the national level as well as a lot of other contentious issues, like gay rights. Pity you guys always paint them as "extremists".



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6568 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5611 times:
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Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
That is part of the Tea Party platform - getting the GOP out of the whole abortion issue at the national level as well as a lot of other contentious issues, like gay rights. Pity you guys always paint them as "extremists".

This is not as much as an "Abortion" issue. Its more of a "Stupidity" issue - for or against abortion it doest matter - This guy is an idiot.

If he really believes his statement - do you think that he is capable of fulling understanding other issues?



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7798 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

Well assuming this quote doesn't have some logical context (don't have time to read the whole article now) it's a pretty dumb thing to say IMO, even from someone who is against abortion. It does nothing to help the cause, even if there is some truth to it (I've heard something like this before, rather not go into details about it, but I'd NEVER use that argument in an abortion debate)


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13028 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5588 times:

Perhaps this is his way to get a ban on abortificant/emergency birth control drugs that may be used by women who are raped/sexually assaulted. To this jerk to him rape is when some is attacked by a stanger in a dark alley. No woman want's to bore a child the product of a rape. One thing that turns me off to modern Republcans how they want to be in
your 'bedroom' and not in the 'boardroom'.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21497 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

I'm struggling to figure out how there is more than one type of rape. I always thought rape was rape, but I suppose I was wrong - there's legitimate rape, and then there's another kind (illegitimate rape, I suppose, though I have no idea what that is).

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
That is part of the Tea Party platform - getting the GOP out of the whole abortion issue at the national level as well as a lot of other contentious issues, like gay rights.

And yet Akin played up his Tea Party credentials in the GOP primary.

-Mir



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4375 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):

That is part of the Tea Party platform - getting the GOP out of the whole abortion issue at the national level as well as a lot of other contentious issues, like gay rights.


That made me laugh out loud. While it may have began as an economic movement, the practical application of the 'tea party' today is 'as conservative as you can possibly be'.

Why don't you go look at some races and see the nitty gritty on the 'tea party supported' candidates. Then come back and say this again with a straight face.

[Edited 2012-08-19 17:42:40]


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11187 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
That is part of the Tea Party platform - getting the GOP out of the whole abortion issue at the national level as well as a lot of other contentious issues, like gay rights.

Utter baloney.

Exhibit 1: Michele Bachmann.



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User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3866 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5535 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
That is part of the Tea Party platform - getting the GOP out of the whole abortion issue at the national level as well as a lot of other contentious issues, like gay rights.

In what way? What do you mean by "out of" the issue?

Based on the data in this article, http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...d2a13e249eb2_story.html?tid=pm_pop , the Tea Partiers still want the GOP in on the gay rights issue.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8182 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5526 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
Pity you guys always paint them as "extremists".

I don't know if "extremists" is the best term. I'm far from impressed when I see them wrapped in the Flag, I consider them potentially dangerous with their obsession of cutting spending and deteriorating the nation's tax revenues. Some times you see some reality in their words, like when they discover that there will be significant cuts to Defense, bit I simply don't trust them on the financial side. And, as an old Vet, I am very tired of them wearing our flag like it makes them special, or right in their rantings. It's pathetic.

{Rant Over}

Quoting Mir (Reply 6):

I'm struggling to figure out how there is more than one type of rape. I always thought rape was rape, but I suppose I was wrong - there's legitimate rape, and then there's another kind (illegitimate rape, I suppose, though I have no idea what that is).

Maybe a legitimate rape is one where the victim gets pregnant and the right wing nuts make her a victim AGAIN by trying to force her to carry to term. Maybe those right wing nuts will pass a law (with full funding) to take care of babies born because of legitimate rapes. Take care of them for life. That is the dollar price they need to cover, especially when those babies have significant problems and end up with special needs.

{Next Rant Over}


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8785 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5509 times:

Quoting us330 (Reply 9):
Based on the data in this article, http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...d2a13e249eb2_story.html?tid=pm_pop , the Tea Partiers still want the GOP in on the gay rights issue.

I think you mis-read the data In regards to the TP, they are simply not interested. If I were a congressman, and a vote came up on gay rights, I would probably abstain. I just don't give a crap. As for abortion, I think it should be legal, but as a state issue, so unless it's for a vote on a constitutional amendment, I'd probably abstain as well.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11516 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
In regards to the TP, they are simply not interested

TP is very interested VERY interested in gay rights. They do not ever want the gays to have equal rights. Ever. They don't ever want gays to be able to sign contracts.

Back on topic: this guy is an idiot. And has no idea how a woman's body works. Why is the far right so interested in getting government out of our lives and out of our hospitals but wants the government in every woman's uterus?



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8182 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
If I were a congressman, and a vote came up on gay rights, I would probably abstain.

Which, in today's world would be a vote against those rights.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
As for abortion, I think it should be legal, but as a state issue,

Anytime you push for "state rights" you dilute the concept of Equal Protection Under The Law. That has long been a major issue for me as I consider myself an American, regardless of the state I was born in or currently live in.


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11516 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 12):
They don't ever want gays to be able to sign contracts.

Edit: Even at the state level. Ever.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19370 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 5441 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
That is part of the Tea Party platform - getting the GOP out of the whole abortion issue at the national level as well as a lot of other contentious issues, like gay rights. Pity you guys always paint them as "extremists".

I call bull. This "Tea Party" that you keep describing is at very wide variance to the actual Tea Party that exists in the U.S. at the present time.

In actuality, 100% of "Tea Party" candidates and politicians have supported DOMA (or stricter laws) and opposed abortion. I can't find a single exception.

So if you don't like those politics, then you should stop being part of the Tea Party, because it is not at all what you describe.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
I think you mis-read the data In regards to the TP, they are simply not interested. If I were a congressman, and a vote came up on gay rights, I would probably abstain. I just don't give a crap.

So you then passively oppose civil rights for fellow citizens because you can't be bothered to do something active about them? That's low, really. The 14th Amendment clearly makes civil rights a federal issue. So what are you saying is "I want a Constitutional Government... unless the Constitution is inconvenient."

As for mis-reading the data, 94% of TPers oppose gay marriage. Think it should be illegal. That's worse than "Religious Values Voters."

So there are these inconvenient things called "numbers." You can either "interpret" the question in your own way or dismiss the Washington Post of being some liberal shill. Or you can maybe-evaluate the reality of what the Tea Party really is about social issues, because the Tea Party is even more socially conservative than it is fiscally conservative.


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3381 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5401 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 12):
Why is the far right so interested in getting government out of our lives and out of our hospitals but wants the government in every woman's uterus?

Because they believe that those living fetuses have the same rights as those living outside the womb.



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4375 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Until they come out, then they'll rail against money to their mothers with welfare, entitlements, whatever. And they'll try to make damn sure no gay (or even single) person could ever adopt them. Then they'll view the usually unwed mothers as some sort of unholy whores to be frowned upon. And they'll then decry any sort of family unit not construed as their mom and pop Christian fantasyland to be consummately un-American. And around we go.

[Edited 2012-08-20 01:59:36]


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21497 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5384 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 16):
Because they believe that those living fetuses have the same rights as those living outside the womb.

You cannot compare an infant to a non-viable fetus. It just doesn't work.

-Mir



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3381 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 5351 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 18):
non-viable fetus

This is the slippery slope we are on. When the abortion debate began in earnest in the early 70's viability was approx. 7 or 8 months. Now it could be as little as 4 months. My niece was born prematurely at 5 months and now she is a happy, healthy physically above average 10 year-old. Fetus is just a name given for where you are in the human development cycle. Like infant, toddler, teenager, etc.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19370 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 5351 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 19):
This is the slippery slope we are on. When the abortion debate began in earnest in the early 70's viability was approx. 7 or 8 months. Now it could be as little as 4 months. My niece was born prematurely at 5 months and now she is a happy, healthy physically above average 10 year-old. Fetus is just a name given for where you are in the human development cycle. Like infant, toddler, teenager, etc.

I think that a small mass of cells that hasn't even implanted yet is not a viable fetus.

And I think I know a lot more about the subject than you do.


User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 5337 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 16):
they believe that those living fetuses have the same rights as those living outside the womb.

You mean, none?

Why is it that some of the people who are up in arms about the "rights of the unborn" and about the "right to life" are so often opposed to the right to the "means of life" and are quite happen to deprive the living of the "right to life" by bombing them? They will disapprove of aid packages to provide safe, clean water but happily sign off on aid to provide arms and weaponry.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6575 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 5319 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):

I think you mis-read the data In regards to the TP, they are simply not interested. If I were a congressman, and a vote came up on gay rights, I would probably abstain. I just don't give a crap. As for abortion, I think it should be legal, but as a state issue, so unless it's for a vote on a constitutional amendment, I'd probably abstain as well.

That may be how you feel, but that doesn't represent the bulk of the Tea Party. I would argue that without the social conservatives, the Tea Party would struggle to survive. The social conservatives are using the Tea Party as a vehicle to push their social agenda against gay marriage, abortion, etc. I would argue that hill-billies like this Akin can give a lot of credit to the Tea Party for their political survival.


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5286 times:

Quoting ATTart (Thread starter):
Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) Claims that victims of "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant.

There is also a video of him being interview, making this claim

Well it is very sad that someone is this ignorant. But what is worse, is that he sits on the House's Science and Space Tecnhology sub-committees.



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User currently offlineATTart From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

Here, is Rick Santorum's view on abortion in case of rape or incest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-hvk9274po

Michele Bachmann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvMeslMn8zs



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25 seb146 : No. The "tea party people" believe with all their might that every fetus should be saved period. No matter how that fetus came to be. Once that fetus
26 connies4ever : The GOP had some decent spin on the 24 hour cycle with the Paul Ryan selection. And myself, even as a liberal (and proudly so), have to concede that R
27 casinterest : They love it so much that Christian Churches and schools fire folks that have babies out of wedlock, therefore taking away resources needed for the s
28 Newark727 : Someone explain to me how this isn't a gigantic dodge. It doesn't make sense, no matter what side of the issue you take. If you're pro-life, yes, tha
29 SW733 : Just my guess as to what he might have meant: Legitimate - non-consenting in any way Illegitimate - Getting drunk, hooking up, regretting it, and cla
30 Ken777 : You've gotta be kidding! That is dumber than a skinny dipping Republican Congressman in the Holy Land,
31 GDB : He sounds like he'd be much happier living in, say, some tribal village in Pakistan? Has no one else noticed this, that similarity between the more ba
32 SW733 : Now THAT is my resident Representative!
33 connies4ever : Not just the backward Muslim world. Some of the various Hasidim streams of Judaism, and some of the various streams of Baptist Christianity in the we
34 cargolex : A statement from the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists:
35 slider : News is breaking that he is resigning and withdrawing...rightfully so. Fool.
36 Post contains images connies4ever : Better be careful about being one of those "effete impudent snobs" OR being in league with the liberal media bias.
37 Post contains images Revelation : Uhm, it seems the correct term for "uterus" is "that thing", according to Hon. Mr. Akin. Good luck getting back into "that thing", Mr. Akin! My inter
38 Post contains links Ken777 : The yahoo is on a very short leash: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...ign-chief-20120820,0,7702980.story My bet is that he will be gone. But you
39 DocLightning : It's called holy douchebaggery. Be a douche. Claim God wants you to be. Nothing new to see here. Note the party afiliation, don't be surprised, move
40 StarAC17 : They only have the same rights if the fetus is viable outside the womb, this is precisely why in Canada for example 3rd trimester abortions are illeg
41 tugger : Interestingly this debacle has caused Mr. Ryan to shift his position from "abortion only in cases where the mothers life is in danger" to now also in
42 LTBEWR : Akin is the Republican candidate - for now - for the US Senate running for McCaskall's seat (she is a Dem). If he kept his mouth and brain in gear he
43 Ken777 : The pressure on this yo-yo will increase a lot until 5 PM tomorrow (Tuesday) as that is the last day he can decide to take his name off the ballot. Af
44 casinterest : Nah, I bet he gets some "religion" tommorrow and gets out. The GOP can ill afford to have him as a distraction going into the fall. There are many ot
45 cws818 : It is? Where? Now, I can understand your wishful thinking, but so far, I haven't seen anything to support your hopes.
46 Post contains links ATTart : Well according to his Face Book page 3 hour ago, he is staying in the race.. http://www.facebook.com/supportakin?ref=ts
47 Post contains links tugger : No, it really isn't that big a deal:
48 Post contains images zkojq : A great example of this is the Governor of Mississippi, Haley Barbour, who proudly tells anyone who will listen that 'Americans United for Life named
49 Max Q : Typical right wing nut job. Came out of the same container as Santorum and 'Crazy eyes' Bachmann !
50 Revelation : The main problem for the ticket is not that Ryan has etcha-sketched his position, rather it's that we're even talking about woman's rights. Karl Rove
51 Post contains links ATTart : Well here is part of the 2012 Republican platform, it was just voted on and it passed. http://radio.foxnews.com/2012/08/21/...-no-exceptions-for-rape-
52 Post contains links casinterest : Looks like Todd Akin is doubling down on his commitment to keep running. Question will be as to what Missouri's GOP base feels about a person who dist
53 tugger : My guess is that Mr. Akin is holding out until he has some kind of guarantee for his future. He has to know he is dead in the race and that his polit
54 JetBlueGuy2006 : That is the question, the Current Secretary of State for Missouri is Robin Carnahan, who is a Democrat. If she were to find reason to challenge it, i
55 Ken777 : I think he will stay in until the GOP delivers something really sweet for him. Reality is that he won the primaries and, as of yesterday, was still i
56 SmittyOne : I could respect this viewpoint if I believed it was the real reason that religious people are so tightly focused on the abortion issue. But then I co
57 Aesma : Anyone can say "only in the US" ? And don't mention conservative Muslim countries because there, there is no debate, and often, officially no rape. Th
58 SmittyOne : Because in their minds the fetus is a perfectly innocent life (minus some 'original sin' to be washed away at baptism, of course), while the death ro
59 Post contains links Mir : Oh dear, we've got another one. Everyone, meet Representative Steve King (R-IA). King supports the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act." It would ba
60 Post contains images ATTart :
61 DocLightning : UNBORN. Remember, the "Right to Life" people only care about the UNBORN. Once you're born, well...then you don't matter unless you are useful to them
62 DeltaMD90 : ...or we believe it's a person and don't want to kill people... Just throwing that out there, feel free to disagree with that but your quote is way o
63 Ken777 : Deadline to drop out has now passed and the yo-yo is still in the race. This is the guy the GOP now has to look to in order to take a majority in the
64 Post contains links Revelation : Now Mitt is running away from his own party's platform: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...kin-drop-senate-bid-201918205.html
65 DocLightning : Question: do you believe in exceptions for rape and/or incest?
66 SmittyOne : If you believe it is a person from the moment of conception, then don't have an abortion. That seems pretty straightforward to me. Otherwise, what pr
67 DocLightning : Here's a shocker: I consider a fetus to be alive (at least in some sense) from the moment of conception and I abhor all abortion unless, of course, n
68 Max Q : Very well said Smitty
69 StarAC17 : It makes leaps and bounds to reduce unwanted pregnancies but there still is no guarantee, which I'm sure you know. I agree and these guys in congress
70 Mir : How often do late-term abortions occur when the decision could have been made earlier (i.e. no additional health issues have shown up), though? If yo
71 seb146 : Someone brought up an interesting point on the radio today: if this is such an important issue, why didn't they do something about it in the six years
72 LTBEWR : The odds of him winning the senate seat were probably slim anyway trying to beat an existing officeholder. He had to get greedy and run for US Senate
73 StarAC17 : Doc can clarify if I get any of this wrong. At that point I believe if you had a viable foetus you could either preform an emergency C-section or ind
74 DocLightning : Not often. But I once referred a 17yo to an abortion at 23 weeks (at her request) and I still carry that decision to this day. I should have just sai
75 Mir : And this was because she had just put the decision off until then? Or were there other circumstances that compelled her to change her mind? -Mir
76 cws818 : Don't worry - according to the evil left wing media, you have until 25 September to be proven correct.
77 DocLightning : The former.
78 mdsh00 : As another doctor I agree with this big time. To answer another question, this is the reason why many states outlaw later term elective abortions of
79 DarkSnowyNight : Absolutely. Not opposing evil is all evil needs to do what it wants done. Failure to support civil rights, even by abstainance makes him part of the
80 Post contains links cmf : Latest from Akin. He now says he misspoke "one word in one sentence on one day." http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news...roar-over-one-word-vows-stay-r
81 windy95 : So Akin had a problem spitting something out on rape and abortion and it has become a big deal but no one seemed to have a problem with Obama supporti
82 Post contains links casinterest : This word is for accidentally saying something you don't believe. Quit using it for Akin. The man is an ignorant liar that had no doctor sources for
83 Ken777 : I believe that when a woman has been raped and reports it immediately she will be taken to a hospital and offered a "morning after pill" as well as v
84 DocLightning : At the point where there is a decent chance of survival to normal adulthood. Currently, that is about 24-25 weeks. Wait, that discussion wasn't about
85 Mir : BS. There are two things he said that are objectionable. One is the "legitimate rape" deal, which I can accept that he misspoke on. That still doesn'
86 Post contains links Revelation : Seems he blew off an interview with Piers Morgan, not a good thing to do: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/a...nterview-cnn-015546319.html?_esi=1
87 DocLightning : And he claimed that some unnamed "Doctors" said so. Those doctors should be named and they should lose their board certification if they are in a fie
88 Aesma : I think this is one of the main reasons why abortion is so controversial in the US, even if it's not practiced in any large scale. And that's because
89 cmf : I was thinking about it but when taken in context with the rest he said I don't think so. Hard to decide what is most amazing. This or pretending it
90 DeltaMD90 : Well I see it as a life... so I figure it's horrible what happened but it's still killing (in my mind) Same reason why I'm against the death penalty.
91 Revelation : Yes, that's pretty hard to understand, especially since Rep. Akin is a member of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.
92 Max Q : 'Right to life' is such a misnomer. That position should be called 'anti-choice'
93 Post contains links Mir : Depends. I can buy that he wanted to mean "forcible" by saying "legitimate". That would, of course, imply that he believes that non-forcible rape (i.
94 AKiss20 : What in the hell is "management engineering"? Sounds like some kind of BS-y HR type thing.
95 Post contains images DocLightning : At least you're consistent. I can respect you for that. And I actually agree with you. I also am not going to tell a rape victim that she can't have
96 StarAC17 : Agreed, especially when I am pretty sure most of these politicians are completely for the Death Penalty, and to double down they probably don't reall
97 Mir : Or, more likely, they view it as the cost of doing business, and merely a result of the system not being perfect. -Mir
98 Quokkas : Were they Doctors of Divinity or Doctors of Philosophy?
99 tugger : I think the biggest problem that Rep. Akin has has created for the Republican's as a whole is the "legitimate rape" wording. Those opposed to a woman'
100 seb146 : I don't understand something: If a woman gets pregnant from a rape, she *CHOOSES* to carry the fetus to term or not. She and her doctor and her diety/
101 Newark727 : This is why it's occurred to me that this is the creepiest, most perverse national debate we've had in a long time. If the GOP wants to legally defin
102 DocLightning : "More government for you, less government for me."
103 Revelation : I don't know about that - the 2nd part of his statement, where he displays incredible ignorance about how a woman's reproductive system works, remind
104 SmittyOne : Fair enough - if that is your personal position toward all human life across the spectrum then I respect that even if I don't agree 100% with you. Ag
105 Post contains links windy95 : Sorry it is not a falsehood Then Illinois Senator Obama http://youtu.be/8YEvBTwDqBY As for the excuse that he was worried about eroding abortion righ
106 casinterest : Once again because you fail to read sources other than fox news crony garbage. . "Same Words, Different Effect? Obama’s campaign now has a differen
107 seb146 : Yes. God is sending a hurricane toward Tampa. Oh, wait... God never does anything bad to the chosen party of God....
108 windy95 : He seems to have rotating explanations for just about everything he has done, said or promised The old source argument...Have to love that one. No in
109 tugger : I assume you are talking about Mr. Romney? Tugg
110 seb146 : It bothered no one, NOT ONE PERSON on the right at all that their candidate was born in a non-American hospital on non-American soil. It only bothers
111 Post contains links ATTart : Ryan on abortion exceptions: Rape is just another ‘method of conception’ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/2...just-another-method-of-conception/
112 DarkSnowyNight : That's one thing I'd also be interested in getting a Dr's opinion on. What exactly is the consensus on this issue? Is it something we see a lot of di
113 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : As a Christian, I know that you will find Chrisitans who are as you describe. However, that's true for every single group of people. To paint them -
114 seb146 : Because that is all we hear. The only thing we hear about are the right wingers who just will not do anything except protect the fetus. Once that fet
115 cws818 : No, since he didn't. Still waiting for an update (or a mea culpa) from slider....
116 PlanesNTrains : Uh, and the left wing loud mouths are just dying to alter their position? Give me a break....BOTH SIDES - on the extremes, have dug their heels in fo
117 seb146 : At least the Democrats know they are rich and don't try as much to pander. It is a problem. If we can get ALL (R) and ALL (D) out of any elected offi
118 PlanesNTrains : Uh huh.... Agreed. -Dave
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