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GOP Skinny Dippers In Israel  
User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8305 posts, RR: 8
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

This one I couldn't believe:

Quote:

The FBI probed a late-night swim in the Sea of Galilee that involved drinking, numerous GOP freshmen lawmakers, top leadership staff – and one nude member of Congress, according to more than a dozen sources, including eyewitnesses.

During a fact-finding congressional trip to the Holy Land last summer, Rep. Kevin Yoder (R-Kan.) took off his clothes and jumped into the sea, joining a number of members, their families and GOP staff during a night out in Israel, the sources told POLITICO.

Other participants, including the daughter of another congressman, swam fully clothed while some
lawmakers partially disrobed. More than 20 people took part in the late-night dip in the sea, according to sources who were participants in the trip.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79865.html

The guy is from Kansas - the Land of Virtue & Purity.

I guess this is what you's call a Tea Party Party.

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User currently offlinearmitageshanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3625 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Pretty much a non-story. Its just political smack talking trying to dig up dirt about something just about everyone has done at some point in their life. I don't think you'd really find any tea partiers or liberals that REALLY have a problem with this. I mean WHO CARES? If I were there I would have done it to, because most people probably would.

Why is the FBI involved?


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 1):
Why is the FBI involved?

They want to get their hands on the pictures  



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3842 times:

Because nudity is inherently sinful and shameful. Oh wait, it's not? You mean fishermen in Jesus' time actually fished in the nude on Lake Galilee? And in the early years of Christianity baptisms were done in the nude as well?

Personally I think so many Americans are so uptight about nudity because they're ashamed of their overweight and unattractive bodies.


User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3833 times:

Why do our tax dollars need to be spent investigating skinny dipping? It has already been said, but I'll say it again....who cares?


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7919 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Wait what is the issue here? That they were naked? Who cares


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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

In his defense, Yoder is about the best kind of Republican you could ever find coming out of Kansas.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21654 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3776 times:

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 1):
Pretty much a non-story.

   Humorous, ironic, somewhat embarrassing for those involved, yes. But ultimately meaningless.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5654 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

Ya gotta love it when politically brainwashed hacks attack the opposite party for the very activities they also partake in. They don't even bother with the "hypocrisy" line anymore. Anything the other side does is evil.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21654 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3741 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 8):
Ya gotta love it when politically brainwashed hacks attack the opposite party for the very activities they also partake in.

Not necessarily. Let's say you have no problem with doing Action X, and I say that I am very much opposed to Action X and would never do it. If it comes out in the news that I do in fact do Action X, you would not be wrong in criticizing me for it, despite the fact that you see nothing wrong with doing Action X. You'd be criticizing my hypocrisy, not Action X. And rightfully so.

It's the same when we find out that social conservative Republicans are doing the very things they rail against, even though Democrats might see nothing wrong with doing those things themselves. This just isn't one of those times - the Representative in question doesn't have a record of moral proselytizing, so he's allowed to have too much fun on occasion. It also helps that he's a low-profile guy and that this is the first time most people outside of his state have heard of him - if it were someone like Eric Cantor, the story would probably have more legs.



-Mir



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3676 times:

It is a sure bet that alcohol was involved in this alleged incident.

In this day of social media, opposition seeking anything that can show hyprocritcy or bad behavior, perhaps someone involved or around such an alleged event seeking revenge or sees such acts as wrong, you just can't do this kind of dumb stuff anymore. Now the FBI is going to be distracted from more important criminal acts thay have to investigate this.

Of course the media loves anything with nudity, sex, and dumb behavior by our politicans acting like fools. I wish they would spend a lot more time worrying about the mass corruption of our politicans by corporate and rich lobbyists and there lack of dealing with our serious problems.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8305 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 4):
Why do our tax dollars need to be spent investigating skinny dipping?

Maybe the question should be "why are our tax dollars spent on drinking parties/ skinny dipping in Israel?"

Of course I think it is funny. These guys should not have a criminal investigation on their actions, but they should be exposed in public. Well, not that type of exposure. Just ridicule. Especially the guy from Kansas - the Holier Than Thou State.


User currently offlinearmitageshanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3625 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Of course the media loves anything with nudity, sex, and dumb behavior by our politicans acting like fools.

How were they acting like fools? They were acting like just about every other person on the planet who has a part on an exciting trip.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 11):
Just ridicule

Again, why? I've never met any human being that has a problem with having a party, and a few drinks, and them going for a swim. Why just because they are republican does it matter? Does any republican denounce going to parties and having a good time?


User currently onlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3553 times:
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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8305 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 12):
hey were acting like just about every other person on the planet who has a part on an exciting trip.

When I go on an exciting trip I pay for it myself. I'm not going on the taxpayers dime and on an Official Trip.

Huge difference there. (And I keep my clothes on - but then I'l be 68 on Wednesday.)

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 12):
Why just because they are republican does it matter?

Apparently not to the Republican Leadership in the House. Seems this was well know by the GOP leadership last year

Quote:

Speaker John Boehner’s office seems to believe the case is closed on the story of Rep. Kevin Yoder’s late night skinny-dipping in the Sea of Galilee during a trip to Israel last year.

Kevin Smith, a spokesman for Boehner, told POLITICO that Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) “handled the situation swiftly and appropriately.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79881.html?hp=f2

Looks like a different type of Cover Up than Rep. Kevin Yoder should have used!         


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6692 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Thread starter):
During a fact-finding congressional trip
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 11):
Maybe the question should be "why are our tax dollars spent on drinking parties/ skinny dipping in Israel?"

So nobody saw it but you and me ?

Wait, maybe they were checking the fact that water wets ?



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User currently offlinearmitageshanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3625 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 14):
When I go on an exciting trip I pay for it myself. I'm not going on the taxpayers dime and on an Official Trip.

Huge difference there. (And I keep my clothes on - but then I'l be 68 on Wednesday.)

Official trip aside, which I agree we shouldn't really pay for, but what should they do shut themselves off in their rooms the second meetings are over? Should we feed them MRE's because anything else would be extravagant? Do you honestly have a problem with them having a little fun? Do we even know if this was a government sponsored party?

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 14):
Apparently not to the Republican Leadership in the House. Seems this was well know by the GOP leadership last year

So what? I wouldn't have given it a second thought as long as no crime was committed.


User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
Wait what is the issue here? That they were naked? Who cares

That United States federal elected officials on a American taxpayer paid junket to another nation acted in a manner unbecoming of a representative of the United States government and her citizens? Drunk and skinny-dipping? Regardless of the political party that these Congressmen belonged to, this is an embarassment to all Americans.

What the hell were these idiots thinking? Or, maybe that's the problem. They weren't thinking.   



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5654 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 17):
a representative of the United States government and her citizens?
Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 17):
Drunk and skinny-dipping?

Isn't that the perfect representation of our country?

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 17):
this is an embarassment to all Americans.

Oh grow up. Last time I checked, I was an American, and I think this story is nothing more than politically charged bullshit. Funny how the incident happened over a year ago, and it comes to light right at election time.

The only thing I'm embarrassed about is that many of my fellow Americans actually think this is a deal, let alone a big one.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Now the FBI is going to be distracted from more important criminal acts thay have to investigate this.

No they aren't. An agent interviewed a staffer, and nothing else was done about it.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 11):
"why are our tax dollars spent on drinking parties/ skinny dipping in Israel?"

It was a privately funded trip.

Quote:

The American Israel Educational Foundation, a group related to AIPAC, the prominent pro-Israel advocacy group, sponsored the trip



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4636 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Saturday Night Live better have a skit on this.

"Who is that in the sea of Galilee? "
"GOP in the sea of Galilee."
"Who takes a pee in the Sea of Galilee? "
GOP in the sea of Galilee."
"Hold That!. "
"What kind of Party?"
"Tea Pea Party!!!!"

 

Hardly an uproar incident, but funny.



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User currently offlinearmitageshanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3625 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 17):
an embarassment to all Americans.

I don't know what Americans you are thinking about but I don't think they are the same ones I know.


User currently offlinevictrola From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

I'm just shocked and apalled at such an act of indecency. This man will surely burn in hell.  

I really don't see why this guy is getting so much grief for this.


User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Count me as someone who doesn't really give a crap. I'm the first one to jump on these Republicans when I feel like it, but this just smells of feigning outrage for blind partisanship.


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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11678 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 1):
Pretty much a non-story. Its just political smack talking trying to dig up dirt about something just about everyone has done at some point in their life.

It is a non-story. Except for the fact that his party thinks skinny dipping is evil and we should all cover our bodies from head to toe because we are to be ashamed of our bodies.

Other than that, what is Isreal's laws on public nudity?

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 1):
I don't think you'd really find any tea partiers

Oh, yes there are. The right wing are a bunch of prudes. Remember the "wardrobe malfunction" at the Super Bowl? No one cared except the far right wing. They threw a huge fit and that is why nudity is outlawed in this country. Who cares if someone is sunning themselves in their own back yard? None of my business how comfortable people are without clothes. But, the far right-wing who are VERY vocal DEMAND that we all be ashamed.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 23):
Except for the fact that his party thinks skinny dipping is evil and we should all cover our bodies from head to toe because we are to be ashamed of our bodies.

Care to cite a source for that?

Quoting seb146 (Reply 23):
Remember the "wardrobe malfunction" at the Super Bowl? No one cared except the far right wing. They threw a huge fit and that is why nudity is outlawed in this country.

If you cannot make the distinction between swimming nude and broadcasting nudity during prime time on publicly owned airwaves then you are beyond help.



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25 Pyrex : Wow... people must be really desperate if a guy skinny-dipping over a year ago is somehow suddenly news.
26 Newark727 : I just can't get worked up about this on the same day as the "legitimate rape" story. Plus, the man's from Kansas. He probably doesn't see bodies of w
27 armitageshanks : This is just patently wrong. And you call the GOP ignorant and backwards? You are basing your opinion on what you THINK a person or party thinks beca
28 Pyrex : I have found out through experience that everyone in this world is ignorant - they are just ignorant about different things. Europeans like to paint
29 GEEZER : I hate to remind all you "prudish" Democrats, but it seems like you have very short memories............how about your OWN Congressman Wiener posting
30 seb146 : I see it every day from the far right. Showing a breast for no reason other that "oh, look. a breast." is what the evil "liberals" see. However, the
31 Post contains images BMI727 : But you can't find anything even remotely official to support it. Of course... The reaction was overblown, but reasonable regulation of what can be s
32 Post contains images Ken777 : I guess we should give the poor guy a break as there is so little beach front land in Kansas. We all know that all politicians on these political jun
33 Maverick623 : So... looking at a guy's junk live is a-OK, but looking at a boob on TV is not? No sir, it is people who think like that, that need the help. Right i
34 Post contains images zippyjet : I don't care if they were D or R if they were young hot women. But those guys going in the buff? Not the greatest area to go commando. The religious/
35 seb146 : Just every day life. Sorry the real world does not work as a source for you. Reasonable. Yes. Seeing someone nude who is just nude is, to me, not rea
36 BMI727 : Where did I say that? Frankly, I'm not offended by it, but hundreds of years of social convention suggests otherwise. Put it on cable or satellite, b
37 seb146 : My own lyin' eyes. I guess I should not believe what I see and hear. Why? I don't understand why people *need* to be covered up because of what "reli
38 BMI727 : Well you'd think that if the religious right or Republicans (which are not really the same group except in your world) felt so strongly that one of t
39 seb146 : My point is: we were made in the creator's image. I don't understand why "Christians" are so appalled by seeing any skin at all. I don't *want* to se
40 Maverick623 : Seriously? "If you cannot tell the difference between swimming nude and broadcasting nudity, you are beyond help". It's a fact: you are OK with peopl
41 BMI727 : Seb's equating swimming nude in Israel with hypocrisy on obscenity is moronic. I only would care about nudity on over the air TV. Satellite and cable
42 Aesma : Do they really find it objectionable if they really think about it (I mean the majority, not the religious nuts) ? Here public channels show nudity in
43 BMI727 : I don't. Keeping it on cable and satellite seems like a reasonable compromise to me: it's there if you want it, but it's harder to run across acciden
44 Post contains links rmoore7734 : Bill Clinton talked of naked republicans @ the bohemian grove north of san francisco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8y-FPQlNfI
45 starbuk7 : Well, when you are watching the Super Bowl with the kids and family you are not expecting to see nudity, if I am watching HBO or SHOWTIME (dependiing
46 Maverick623 : You don't expect your kids to see nudity anywhere except in the bathroom. It doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. Stereotypes exist for a reason. I
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