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Lubbock Judge Warns Of Civil War  
User currently onlinemdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Posted (2 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Judge Tom Head of Lubbock, TX in hot water over a TV interview pitching increased taxes in order to fund the national guard in order to prepare for the upcoming Civil War if the president is re-elected.

 http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/tex...judge-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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Referring to unexplained "executive orders" and other documents that Obama and "his minions have filed," Head said, "regardless of whether the Republicans take over the Senate, which I hope they do, he is going to make the United States Congress and he's going to make the Constitution irrelevant. He's got his czars in place that don't answer to anybody."
Obama, Head said, will "try to give the sovereignty of the United States away to the United Nations. What do you think the public's going to do when that happens? We are talking civil unrest, civil disobedience, possibly, possibly civil war ... I'm not talking just talking riots here and there. I'm talking Lexington, Concord, take up arms, get rid of the dictator. OK, what do you think he is going to do when that happens? He is going to call in the U.N. troops, personnel carriers, tanks and whatever."

Moron. If you're going to talk about historical battles, at least refer to Civil War battles and not Revolutionary battles.

Aside from being the craziest thing I have ever heard, how do these people keep getting elected? And it's stuff like this which is an example of how political discourse in this country has gone to shit in the last 8 years.


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User currently offlinewindy95 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 2722 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Quoting mdsh00 (Thread starter):
Lubbock Judge Warns Of Civil War

Why do you think that guns and ammo are still flying off the shelves?



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

Because people are morons?


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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4196 times:

Yes, yes, yes and millions of people were going to flock north to Canada should Dubya be re-elected in 2004. Segolene Royal said something similar in the 2007 French presidential election. Didn't happen then. Won't happen now. Keep moving people, nothing to see here.   

[Edited 2012-08-23 13:57:29]

User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5508 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4187 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 1):
Quoting mdsh00 (Thread starter):
Lubbock Judge Warns Of Civil War

Why do you think that guns and ammo are still flying off the shelves?

I know you don't believe that the USA is anywhere close to civil war, so why make such a comment?

I never have understood why people like to make comments implying more than what they actually believe to be true. The whole problem with the nation is that too many people like to do this rather than working to calm things down and get people to come together and work together.

Tugg



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 4):
Why do you think that guns and ammo are still flying off the shelves?

I know you don't believe that the USA is anywhere close to civil war, so why make such a comment?

I never have understood why people like to make comments implying more than what they actually believe to be true. The whole problem with the nation is that too many people like to do this rather than working to calm things down and get people to come together and work together.

Ignorance can't stand compromise. It would require knowledge.



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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8703 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

That sounds as if someone's gone not merely bananas, but all the way to fruit salad.


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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2510 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4146 times:

No offense to any of you that live there, but why is it stuff like this comes from Texas so often? Didn't Rick Perry want TX to secede from the US a few years back?

This guy needs to get a reality check, but so do lots of people thinking all kinds of radical crazy stuff is going to happen if Obama is re-elected (which I don't think he will). I own guns, I'm not the slightest bit worried that he's going to send someone to my house to take them away. I'll bet that on Jan 21st, 2013 I will still be able to buy ammo no matter who's sworn in the day before. Ya'll need to get a grip.

Quoting luckyone (Reply 3):
Yes, yes, yes and millions of people were going to flock north to Canada should Dubya be re-elected in 2004.

Exactly - even have a few left-leaning friends who were thoroughly convinced Bush/Cheney were somehow going to get the 2008 election suspended so they'd stay in power and invoke some sort of martial law etc. Yeah, that happened.  


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7701 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4095 times:
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Why is anyone giving any attention to this chump? Clearly a little divorced from reality.


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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2844 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 4):
I never have understood why people like to make comments implying more than what they actually believe to be true.

Because, in there own mind, it legitimizes there "gripe"

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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

Some Democrats have called for this 'Judge' to resign as he is showing political bias and for stating such offensive and extreme beliefs. Clearly his statements are unethical per the Texas State Bar. I agree he should resign.

User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

I love the irony here that he is using this to advocate for a tax increase.

[Edited 2012-08-23 18:45:23]


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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2654 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 8):
Why is anyone giving any attention to this chump?

Because, I take no pleasure in reporting, he is an elected judge.

There are calls for him to resign - frankly I think someone should order a mental health evaluation before anything else.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9937 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3989 times:
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Quoting mdsh00 (Thread starter):
Moron. If you're going to talk about historical battles, at least refer to Civil War battles and not Revolutionary battles.

Hah!

Quoting tugger (Reply 4):
I never have understood why people like to make comments implying more than what they actually believe to be true. The whole problem with the nation is that too many people like to do this rather than working to calm things down and get people to come together and work together.

Because people like to get a rise out of other people. Then they can talk crap about the other people for getting riled up, and say things like "no, I'm perfectly calm, you're getting all pissy". It's a nice little technique for making yourself feel superior and more righteous than the other person.

And before anyone says it, yes, both sides do it.

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 11):
I love the irony here that is is using this to advocate for a tax increase.

Hah! again.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21564 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3982 times:

Quoting windy95 (Reply 1):
Why do you think that guns and ammo are still flying off the shelves?

Because the NRA has been fearmongering people into thinking that Obama will take away their guns tomorrow, when he has proposed nothing of the sort. Gun dealers and manufacturers should be praying that Obama gets re-elected - his presidency has been amazing for their business.

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 11):
I love the irony here that is is using this to advocate for a tax increase.

   Pure, unadulterated headscratching irony really doesn't get better than that.

-Mir



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User currently onlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

Quoting mdsh00 (Thread starter):
Judge Tom Head of Lubbock, TX in hot water over a TV interview pitching increased taxes in order to fund the national guard in order to prepare for the upcoming Civil War if the president is re-elected.

If this guy wasn't from texas, Even a hard-core republican like myself would've believed him better.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 1):
Why do you think that guns and ammo are still flying off the shelves?

Because people are scared! Seriously, Obama scares people in red states. It's not good for people to be scared like this at all, especially for a struggling economy.



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 15):

Because people are scared! Seriously, Obama scares people in red states. It's not good for people to be scared like this at all, especially for a struggling economy.

That's such bull. You act like Obama is them justifiable reason to be 'scared', other than the endless barrage of far right wing nonsense they are subjected to on their computer and television. Clearly, scaring them is good business for a lot of people, and good politics for Republicans up for election.

Like this crap with the UN. 99% of the time they criticize the UN universally for its weakness and its inability to do anything with the lack of enforcement behind it. But then with this gun crap story they start talking about the UN as the most powerful thing in the world deeply threatening our sovereignty.. It's lunacy. Nice way to bake your cake and eat it too. They will say anything, anything, to drum up fear and score some partisan points.

[Edited 2012-08-23 19:17:13]


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11272 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 15):
Seriously, Obama scares people in red states.

The people need to educate themselves, and stop listening to yahoos like this.

People in Texas generally have things pretty good. If people in red states have it bad, it's by and large because they have elected ineffective leaders at the local level.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Note to everyone

This 'judge' is NOT a judge in a court of law. He may not even be a lawyer.

The County Judge position in Texas is the head of the Commissioners Court. That is a body like a city council. The individual commissioners are elected from the various districts in the county, and the County Judge is a county wide position.

The County Judge would be similar to the mayor of a city in responsibility and authority.


User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

I believe this is some footage of his courtroom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaK_FgrIlYY



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3995 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

Quoting mdsh00 (Thread starter):
Aside from being the craziest thing I have ever heard, how do these people keep getting elected?

Agree. People in the judiciary with power should not be subject to public election - but if that were to happen, how would self-promoting Democrat AGs (Aspiring Governors) get noticed?

Quoting mdsh00 (Thread starter):
If you're going to talk about historical battles, at least refer to Civil War battles and not Revolutionary battles.

Weren't both of them technically Civil Wars?

Quoting ER757 (Reply 7):
Didn't Rick Perry want TX to secede from the US a few years back?

Was that around the same time the U.S. was bombing the shit out of the Serbs so the Kosovars could secede or after that? Oh, yes, I forgot, what the U.S. government so often actively promotes abroad is actually illegal in the U.S.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 9):
the Government is coming to get you !

It isn't?

Quoting Mir (Reply 14):
Because the NRA has been fearmongering people into thinking that Obama will take away their guns tomorrow, when he has proposed nothing of the sort.

True. He is waiting for another Supreme Court judge to kick the bucket so he can pack it. When that happens, then we will see the Second Amendment suddenly get interpreted in curious and unusual ways,



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5508 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3845 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 15):
Because people are scared! Seriously, Obama scares people in red states. It's not good for people to be scared like this at all, especially for a struggling economy.

No it's not good for people to be scared. But how do you address irrational people? It borders on being absolutely idiotic. They have nothing real to fear from President Obama, any more than any other person has ever had to fear from any president. Heck regarding a politician, the most I can think people had to fear was from McCarthy and the House Un-American Activities Committee.

Seriously, when has a President, ever directed something to happen that the people (the mass population) should really fear? Why is it suddenly happening now? It's crazy.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 20):
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 9):
the Government is coming to get you !

It isn't?

No, it's not.

(Unless you are someone like Osama bin Laden, THEN we are coming to get you....)   

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 20):
True. He is waiting for another Supreme Court judge to kick the bucket so he can pack it. When that happens, then we will see the Second Amendment suddenly get interpreted in curious and unusual ways,

Yeah, keep that fear mongering up.... cuz I'm sure the president will just stuff whoever he wants into the court and that then the court will magically stop being independent. Just magically, no Congress, no public, no law, nothing, it'll just happen. Oh and don't forget that then all law forces in the nation will suddenly jump up and take everyone's guns, and it doesn't even address the fact that any ruling would have to come from cases that first have to work their way through a half dozen courts before that magically packed court would get a chance to do anything...

Why do people keep saying this kind of stuff? You can't actually believe this Pyrex. It's just silly to the point of being dumb.

Tugg



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21564 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 18):
The County Judge would be similar to the mayor of a city in responsibility and authority

That doesn't make it better....

-Mir



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 21):
Why do people keep saying this kind of stuff?

There are 3 people on this thread professing the same stuff. It is scary that their are people that delusional or paranoid out there. Th makers fo Tin Foil must be rolling in it.


I mean honestly. the judge is worried about the UN coming in and taking over and wants to beef up the National Guard? Word to the wise, without the National Guardsman of the US, the UN wouldn't have much to come attack with.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21564 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 20):
Was that around the same time the U.S. was bombing the shit out of the Serbs so the Kosovars could secede or after that? Oh, yes, I forgot, what the U.S. government so often actively promotes abroad is actually illegal in the U.S.

That was about genocide, not secession.

-Mir



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25 cws818 : Why, specifically? It's not good for people to be ignorant like this at all.
26 Post contains images oldeuropean : Because of the colour of his skin! [Edited 2012-08-28 23:16:08]
27 Aesma : I found an article in English about what I was going to mention from this year French presidential election : So, here, even the most senior politicia
28 bmacleod : I'm more concerned about what happens if Romney gets elected. If Pres. Romney decides to nuke Iran, Russia could launch nukes at US in retaliation....
29 tugger : Yeah.... That's not gonna happen, no way. It's about as crazy as thinking the the USA is on the verge of a civil war if Pres. Obama gets reelected. P
30 Post contains images YVRLTN : We would politely request all refugees and asylum seekers please head south. We dont have enough igloos for y'all to live in up here, our beer is a we
31 Post contains images PHX787 : 1) deficit 2) programs which take money from other programs which need it 3) tax codes 4) gun policies 5) healthcare 6) business growth 7) the genera
32 Post contains images WestJet747 : This judge (or elected official, or whatever he is...) seems a bit over-dramatic. It very well could be he doesn't sincerely believe civil war would h
33 tugger : Sorry but that's the exact same as that the Ryan/Romney team! I mean really there is no real difference (except perhaps irrational fear). That is wha
34 Post contains images texan : 1) Ok, something that happens under every administration and exploded under Reagan, George W Bush and Obama, but something that Congress--not the Pre
35 Post contains images ER757 : Please elaborate on this one - I haven't noticed ANY changes in gun laws in the past four years that would cause me as a gun owner to be concerned. O
36 cws818 : OK, but this isn't exactly the first time that we have a deficit. I can only assume that you would vote for Bill Clinton.... Well, that is certainly
37 tugger : No, no, NO! You don't understand! You are completely missing the irrational fear part of it! It is just like Pyrex stated in his reply 20: Pres. Obam
38 Post contains images cws818 : Well, there is the problem, in a nutshell.... [Edited 2012-08-31 21:31:47]
39 Post contains images PHX787 : Oiiiii you guys give me cancer -__- It's not necessarily a scare, it's just a concern for our constitutional rights Well all the rhetoric is making pe
40 Mir : When has Obama ever shown any desire to address the issue of firearms? He's had almost four years to do it, and he's done nothing. So why are people
41 Post contains images soon7x7 : While I would have to agree with you that Obama, (when you get down to it), has created more jobs...in the gun industry. That's a good one. Kind of a
42 LMP737 : Because there are a lot of ignorant people in this country who have no idea how their system of government works.
43 bueb0g : Created by Bush, getting better under Obama, residual deficit caused by overlap of Republican policies. Also, the Republicans evidently don't care at
44 ER757 : Kind of makes me wonder if thy aren't the ones who started the fear-mongering about gun laws in the first place...... Which is crazy - there is not o
45 pvjin : Oh yeah, seeing this kind of statements from republicans makes me seriously wonder condition of US education system in at least these certain states..
46 johns624 : Yeah, I'm a manager of a gunshop/range and you'd be surprised at all the people that start with "I heard that Obama was going to pass a law...". Main
47 Post contains images PHX787 : Oiiiiiii -_- again! Nooooo not at all. It skyrocketed over Obama (are you serious here? honestly! Pick up a paper will ya?) Medicare (Obamacare draine
48 Mir : Ryan's budget cuts the exact same amount of money. Unless you're making over $250k, blame Congress for this one - Obama has tried to get Congress to
49 PHX787 : I'm pretty certain Obama wants the upper middle to pay more in taxes. A quick search will show you that these people are the primary job creators. Ba
50 Mir : If you're defining those making over $250k (net) as "upper middle", then yes. But that seems like a rather expansive definition. -Mir
51 Post contains images LMP737 : You could take advantage of their ignorance. Example, tell the customer that Obama plans to ban paper targets and that they should buy as many as the
52 DeltaMD90 : Not to start anymore conspiracy theories, and this is just my line of thinking, but it seems that the President has been strangely quiet about the sho
53 LMP737 : That's because he does not have the power to do so.
54 Post contains links Mir : Here's what he said after the Aurora shooting: "I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not
55 OzGlobal : No, that's not Obama, it's Fox News version of Obama, imbibed uncritically in red states, that makes people in red states scared. Scaring ignorant pe
56 DeltaMD90 : Sigh... he'll "push" for legislation. I know the president can't pass laws through Congress but he does have a lot of say Yeah but I was expecting hi
57 LMP737 : Sigh...he's given no indication he will push for said legislation. With the GOP in the NRA's back pocket, along with a fair amount of democrats, he k
58 Mir : But he didn't. And he hasn't, despite the Ft. Hood shooting, the Tucson shooting, Wisconsin temple shooting, etc. Or, more likely, it just isn't a le
59 DeltaMD90 : What, a candidate not pushing for an issue around reelection time is something unheard of? I think some good, practical legislation could be used btw
60 Mir : There appears to be a large-scale push to convince people that Obama is after their guns. And, for some reason unknown to me, people are buying it. W
61 DeltaMD90 : Where did I say I thought he's after our guns?? Somewhat? Come on, I hope by now you know I don't go around bashing the President for everything and
62 LMP737 : GOP in control of the house, do you think the president is going to even attempt to push for gun control legislation? The only people who believe tha
63 Mir : Absolutely not. The gun show loophole/exemption should have been done away with years ago. Data sharing state-to-state and state-to-federal appears a
64 DeltaMD90 : So what, he should sit on his hands for however many years the Republicans are in majority and not push for anything the Republicans don't like? I kn
65 Mir : He has Congress to lose. If we go on the assumption that at least one house of Congress will be under GOP control, he'll have to be careful about whi
66 DeltaMD90 : Well I never was talking about a gun debate extravaganza... but support for a bill or something. I guess we'll see. Glad you at least see where I'm c
67 Mir : The thing is, the two are one and the same. Support for a bill will inevitably turn into an extravaganza in this political climate. -Mir
68 LMP737 : It is a fantasy to think that a Republican controlled house is going to go along with any form of gun control legislation that the President may have
69 cws818 : True, the name is different. Romneycare vs. Obamacare. The substance is the same. Like what? Romneycare, which is the substantial equivalent of Obama
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