mbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2562 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3236 times:
As much as I despise the over-privileged liar, I don't think it's anything more than him trying to make an off-the-cuff joke. Which he shouldn't do because he's just not funny and his attempts to be funny almost always end as terrible gaffes.
2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 6980 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3175 times:
I may not like Mitt very much "okay pretty much not at all" on politics but I have no doubts on his citizenship, I will give him that unlike those on the other end.
"And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by." John Masefield Sea-Fever
StarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3230 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3156 times:
Quoting mbmbos (Reply 1): I don't think it's anything more than him trying to make an off-the-cuff joke. Which he shouldn't do because he's just not funny and his attempts to be funny almost always end as terrible gaffes.
I don't think Romney should try and joke about anything, as he has no Charisma what so ever. Even GWB has more than him, he is just a boring person IMO.
Saying that, it should not matter when electing a president but the so called "Brew Test" has picked the last 7 elections in the US, so people do vote that way.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38590 posts, RR: 80 Reply 8, posted (9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3132 times:
Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 7): it should not matter when electing a president but the so called "Brew Test" has picked the last 7 elections in the US, so people do vote that way.
You're right and it's a silly way of selecting a President.
You're also right about Romney having no charisma at all. Yes he is a very boring candidate but that wont stop me from voting for him.
I'd rather have a beer with Mitt Romney because then I would have won in challenging his wacky Mormon beliefs.
I'd have to mouth off to a police officer and refuse to show ID in order to get treated to a beer with Obama.
StarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3230 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3102 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8): You're right and it's a silly way of selecting a President.
It is and I think it says a lot more about the US electorate at large.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8): You're also right about Romney having no charisma at all. Yes he is a very boring candidate but that wont stop me from voting for him.
As it shouldn't, I'm sure you voted for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 and they are boring also.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8): I'd rather have a beer with Mitt Romney because then I would have won in challenging his wacky Mormon beliefs.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38590 posts, RR: 80 Reply 12, posted (9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3078 times:
Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 9): It is and I think it says a lot more about the US electorate at large.
That's the damn truth!
I've met so many women that are voting for Obama simply because they think he's "cute"!
WTF?!?!
Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 9): As it shouldn't, I'm sure you voted for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 and they are boring also.
Yes I did. I'm still pissed about the Supreme Court decision in favor of Dubya in 2000.
I think the world would have been a safer place if Gore became the President.
Make that a Red Hook - double black stout that's brewed with Starbucks coffee.
He'd then be drinking alcohol and drinking caffeine which are both a no no in his religion.
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3059 times:
Quoting mbmbos (Reply 1): I don't think it's anything more than him trying to make an off-the-cuff joke.
I think the guy is enough of a dud to deliver that line with the Birthers in mind.
For many it was about as welcome as a fart in an elevator, but the Birthers will love it.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8): I'd rather have a beer with Mitt Romney because then I would have won in challenging his wacky Mormon beliefs.
Actually he would make his low cal, alcohol free and would have spent the time with you as a mission effort. He wants BOTH your vote and tithe for the church.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12595 posts, RR: 64 Reply 15, posted (9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3038 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 12): I've met so many women that are voting for Obama simply because they think he's "cute"!
If there were ever an argument for repeal of the 19th Amendment, this is it. It goes back as far as I can remember; women voting for a candidate based solely on his physical appearance.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6363 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3032 times:
Quoting D L X (Reply 14): "I love coming back here. I get to eat at Zingermans... I get to ride the Detroit Monorail... No one asks about my birth certificate...."
I agree.. Cute joke. Good for a good natured chuckle
Will he follow with : " No one has asked me for my Tax Returns!" - now THAT would make me fall off my chair.
AKiss20 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 534 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3027 times:
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15): Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
I've met so many women that are voting for Obama simply because they think he's "cute"!
If there were ever an argument for repeal of the 19th Amendment, this is it. It goes back as far as I can remember; women voting for a candidate based solely on his physical appearance.
How is this any different than the "brew test"? Both are equally idiotic reasons to vote for a candidate.
Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are
Aesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 4934 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3018 times:
Too much joking is not a good idea for politicians. François Hollande is well known for cracking jokes at every opportunity, often good ones, and specially acerbic ones at the beginning of the campaign, but as it went along his people told him to tone it down to look more serious and "presidential".
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GuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1992 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2937 times:
Quoting mt99 (Reply 16): I agree.. Cute joke. Good for a good natured chuckle
Will he follow with : " No one has asked me for my Tax Returns!" - now THAT would make me fall off my chair.
That would be the ultimate response. If Obama says this I'm giving you the credit!
But love him or hate him, Rush Limbaugh came up with a great line today... He said he finally realized why Obama kept slamming Romney to provide his tax returns...
Limbaugh said "Obama wants to show his voters what a tax form looked like!"
Gotta admit, that was a good one when you're looking at it in a funny joking way.
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seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9911 posts, RR: 17 Reply 21, posted (9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2923 times:
Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 20): He said he finally realized why Obama kept slamming Romney to provide his tax returns...
Limbaugh said "Obama wants to show his voters what a tax form looked like!"
That would be funny if it were true.....
Here we go again:
The Republican governer of Hawaii released both the legal short form and legal long form birth certificate for Barak Obama. No one but no one to the right of him liked or believed it. But, it is out there for all to see.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19813 posts, RR: 56 Reply 22, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2888 times:
Quoting mbmbos (Reply 1): As much as I despise the over-privileged liar, I don't think it's anything more than him trying to make an off-the-cuff joke.
If it were really an off-the-cuff joke, he'd have made sure to point that out. Which I'm not aware he did. So one can conclude that, whether Romney actually believes Obama was born in the US or not, the statement was intended for some political gain.
Though I suppose the other conclusion one could draw is that Romney is a complete idiot, as he disregarded his own well-publicized "take the higher ground" campaign tactic and gave the Democrats something with which to associate himself with the extreme lunatic elements of the Republican party, at a time when there has been no shortage of lunatic elements of the Republican party coming out of the woodwork. I'm sure his campaign staffers are jumping for joy now that they have to spend time and energy downplaying this when they should be focusing on all the positive stuff they're trying to bring out for next week.
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15): If there were ever an argument for repeal of the 19th Amendment, this is it.
Are you suggesting there's an argument for repeal of the 19th Amendment?
-Mir
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LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2867 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 22): associate himself with the extreme lunatic elements of the Republican party, at a time when there has been no shortage of lunatic elements of the Republican party coming out of the woodwork.
Unfortanetly the lunatic fringe of the GOP seems to be holding greater and greater sway within the party.
Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 20): Limbaugh said "Obama wants to show his voters what a tax form looked like!"
Gotta admit, that was a good one when you're looking at it in a funny joking way.
Ah yes the talk radio/Fox News talking point about how a certain percentage of the US population does not pay income tax and how they should be made to becasue they have it oh so good.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 12): Make that a Red Hook - double black stout that's brewed with Starbucks coffee.
He'd then be drinking alcohol and drinking caffeine which are both a no no in his religion.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12365 posts, RR: 12 Reply 24, posted (9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2864 times:
Mitt Romney stated that both he and his wife were born and raised in Detroit, Michigan and the area. I think that this was a deliberate statement. It was to tie him to a more typical Midwestern background of the majority of voters and doesn't have to prove it, while Pres. Obama was born in the then new state of Hawaii and spent childhood years in a foreign and mostly Islamic land as well as exotic Hawaii, a place very different in style, ethnic diversity than 'mainland', Midwestern America.
In effect, Romney was saying he was the 'real American' born and raised, unlike Pres. Obama. It has racist undertones as well.
I bet if Pres. Obama's mother and/or his birth father were still alive, all this stupid birther crap would have never been brought up.
25 LMP737: It would probably be worse. They would be hounding his parents as well.
26 something: He doesn't write his speeches himself and he needs to get the things he says approved. The ''no one's ever asked me for my birth certificate'' part wa
27 Revelation: Indeed. Some have said: Romney: "Devoid Of Charm, Offensive And A Wazzock" (by Revelation Jul 27 2012 in Non Aviation) He's just too boring to care w
28 Pyrex: Actually, plenty of people have said Mitt Romney is not a natural born citizen because his father was born in Mexico. Same with McCain, being born on
29 seb146: Ah. I see... When a rich white guy does it, everything is fine. Nothing to see here. Move along. First you say: Then you say: So, Capital Gains is hi
30 GEEZER: Oh Seb, your obvious complete lack of knowledge about how capital gains is taxed is mind boggling ! ( Call the IRS and have them explain it to you...
31 Superfly: Yet he has never done that in business or in politics. Huh? What are you talking about? Besides, it was StarAC17 that criticized the American public'
32 SmittyOne: If every presidential candidate for the last hundred years was female, I imagine you would see the same behavior among men. Unless you are trying to
33 Pyrex: It is his source of income because that is what he lives off (pretty sure he could not have any income and just withdraw on his balances for the rest
34 falstaff: That was a big deal too. There were a lot of Evangelical Republicans who claimed they would never vote for McCain. Many of them spouted off that he w
35 seb146: So, he has income like the rest of us. Difference is, he gets to pay a lower rate because he sits on his bum waiting for the checks to roll in while
36 Mir: The only problem I had with the Panama Canal Zone thing was the argument that Republicans were making about Guantanamo Bay at the time - since it was
37 SmittyOne: It amazes me, the degree to which you are not only impertinent but wrong as well. Your mouth is far bigger than your ability to make sound assumption
38 bjorn14: Yeah, well tell that to the audience who erupted with laughter after he said it. What I find curious is how the Left sees these people as 'crazy birt
39 bjorn14: Apparently Romney's birther 'joke' got under Obama's very, very thin skin. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm.../08/25/Team-Obama-Birther-In-Chief
40 2707200X: The more right wing hate merchants spread spread stupid lies disguised as conservative facts the more I am compelled to vote for Barack Obama so poor
41 seb146: Here's what I don't get: When crazy on the right says X, that statement was taken out of context and what s/he really ment was Y or Z. But, when anyon
42 IllinoisMan: Anyone catch Chris Matthews exploding at Reince Priebus today? http://www.theroot.com/blogs/msnbc/c...thews-goes-ham-national-television The MSNBC hos
43 bestwestern: So when someone is annoyed with Romny over what he did... It's Obamas fault? I love it!
44 helvknight: In the case of Mittens, I don't particularly care about his birth certificate but I think we should see his EULA. Also a few tax returns wouldn't go a
45 MadameConcorde: I like neither Rombama(s) They are two different versions of the same. If I was a U.S.A. voter, I would definitely vote for a third party candidate.[
46 Pyrex: Why? To satisfy you? Is that really going to make you vote for Romney, or just give press commentators ammunition to fill up space for weeks allowing
47 Superfly: Given the intellect of a lot of Obama supporters, I'm not surprised at all and it is plausible that Obama would suggest such a program. He is already
48 MadameConcorde: Friend Superfly... you have a good point there!
49 seb146: Many of us want to vote third party because we want to get the corporatocracy out of politics. The two major political parties are one-in-the-same an
50 casinterest: For these guys, the best thing that could happen is that Romney loses. So watch them carefully going through the next 2 months. Angry and bitter cons
51 Superfly: Same here but the winner take all system allows the other side to win in a plurality. Wrong. There are a lot of smart people supporting Obama that I
52 cmf: I like to listen to the "comedy channel" I have to disagree with your statement. I find them very respectful to people they agree with and very quick
53 casinterest: Not when the guest holds a differential view. They immediately cut in. It is an interesting dynamic. More importantly , listen to the ads these guys
54 seb146: Go to Montana or Idaho or eastern Washington/Oregon. You will see what I mean. They will shout you down and believe they have the moral integrity to
55 Superfly: Screw all of them including Chris Matthews. The "well the other side does it too" is a foolish argument. That sort of behavior poisons the discussion
56 cmf: A direct response to your statement is a "the other side does it too"? While you may not care about them a lot of people do and it is part of the pol
57 flood: No doubt, just another friendly reminder to the birthers and no different than back in December when his son Matt told a group of seniors that Mitt m
58 seb146: So, you have no business telling me that I am wrong. I know what happens. I have family there. I have lived that.
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