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The Mayor Michael Bloomberg Thread  
User currently offlineGEEZER From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2912 times:

This thread is NOT about gun control, or anything else in particular, it's just about New York City Mayor, Michael Bloomberg. I think Mayor Bloomberg is a very interesting fellow; I tend to agree with him on a few things, and I disagree with him on other things.

First; Mayor Bloomberg feels that all citizens have a "Mayor-given right" to breathe clean air, without having to breathe other people's second hand smoke; I agree wholeheartedly with Mayor Bloomberg on that issue ! By not polluting the air with smoke, I don't "bother" anyone; on the other hand, people who pollute the air with smoke, bother almost everyone !

Second; Mayor Bloomberg went on record saying he thought it was perfectly fine for a Mosque to be built, adjacent to Ground Zero; I think he pretty well got his "ears full" on that idea, (without me even having to state my opinion)

Thrid; Mayor Bloomberg has decided that no one, (other than his cops and possibly an occasional FBI Special Agent, or a Secret Service Agent on a protective detail, should have any kind of weapon (firearm) in NYC. This was already the law before Mayor Bloomberg arrived in NYC, and will doubtless be the case after he's gone. (He may need to think about some additional marksmanship training for his cops though.)

Fourth; I'm not real sure what Mayor Bloomberg thinks about capital gains taxes, (and other taxes); he's obviously part of the 1/10 of 1%, and as such, I'm wondering...........does Mayor Bloomberg seek out ways to be able to pay more of his share in taxes, so that the Democrats will have more to hand out to the "sit home on their butts" group, or does he advocate that they "get off their butts and get a job, and help themselves" ? I'm not sure, as Mayor Bloomberg is kind of hard to "read" sometimes;

One of the other things I find so fascinating about Mayor Bloomberg is, he seems to want to be a politician, yet he has a lot of difficulty trying to decide which party he wants to be identified with; in this case, I think he probably wants to be.....his own "party"; the "Mayor Bloomberg Party" as it were.

He had one more "great idea" a few weeks ago, but I can't seem to recall just now what it was; ( I do remember that I disagreed with him at the time ) Oh.....I just remembered; he wanted to propose a ban on selling soda pop in restaurants to a maximum size of (I think) 16 oz.?) (maybe 12 oz. not sure) I remember that there was quite a stir over that "idea".

I think it may be entirely possible that we may see Mayor Bloombrrg calling for a "ban" on the law of gravity in New York City before he leaves office, (if he ever leaves office) This would result in people who insist on jumping off of tall buildings in NYC being unable to do so, thus negating the need for the City's union sanitation workers to "clean up" unsightly messes from the streets and sidewalks of the city, and incurring substantial savings in operating expenses.

So, your thoughts on Mayor Bloomberg are ?

Charley


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User currently offlineSmittyOne From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 1266 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

I don't necessarily think that Mayor Bloomberg is a bad person, but I hold a different opinion on the degree to which government (city government at that) should dictate what people can or cannot do "for their own good".


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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

He's come out in support of fracking in Ny State, strictly regulated of course. One of the best changes he implemented was have restaurants include calories on their menus, real eye opener. Now I see restaurants doing that Nation wide.


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User currently offlinekngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 368 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

I don't support everything he does but I think as a whole he's a good Mayor. I like that he doesn't affiliate himself with one party. He's the only person I can think of that would have a shot at running for president as an independent. His soda ban is ridiculous though.

User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

Quoting GEEZER (Thread starter):
Second; Mayor Bloomberg went on record saying he thought it was perfectly fine for a Mosque to be built, adjacent to Ground Zero; I think he pretty well got his "ears full" on that idea, (without me even having to state my opinion)

Factually, you're not completely correct here. The proposed structure would have included Muslim prayer space but also a variety of other uses, some of which would have been pretty completely secular (a fitness center.) In terms of context, you're committing several major errors of omission, as the express intent of the project was to demonstrate solidarity of Muslims against extremists within their own ranks, as well as the inconvenient fact that Muslims had been worshipping in the World Trade Center itself prior to the attacks. Also, the "ears full" bit you mention was instigated in no small part by a group literally calling themselves Stop Islamization of America.

Quoting GEEZER (Thread starter):
Fourth; I'm not real sure what Mayor Bloomberg thinks about capital gains taxes, (and other taxes); he's obviously part of the 1/10 of 1%, and as such, I'm wondering...........does Mayor Bloomberg seek out ways to be able to pay more of his share in taxes, so that the Democrats will have more to hand out to the "sit home on their butts" group, or does he advocate that they "get off their butts and get a job, and help themselves" ? I'm not sure, as Mayor Bloomberg is kind of hard to "read" sometimes;

I think everyone who read this knows that it's an extreme strawman of Democratic positions, but I'm going to go ahead and point out that it is, just in case anyone missed it.

Quoting GEEZER (Thread starter):
So, your thoughts on Mayor Bloomberg are ?

He's an interesting case. By dint of his wealth alone he gains a measure of independence from pat political doctrine, which makes him a pretty rare figure to hold as high an office as he currently does. It gives him some latitude to experiment with ideas that are awkward coming from someone with (D) or (R) behind their names, and he happens to be secure enough in his position that he can actually implement a lot of them. This is kind of what's supposed to happen with local governments being "laboratories of democracy" and kind of not, since I get the sense that he can push an idea that's strictly his further than most people in similar positions can, though I'm not familiar enough with New York civic government to say that for certain.


User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3791 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

I actually liked the way you had it spelled before, Bloomburg. He is such a self-promoting ego-maniac he probably thinks the city should be named after him.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):
have restaurants include calories on their menus

Actually, no, just restaurants with more than 10 locations. Just another case of discrimination. But since the Le Cirque, where no doubt he dines every week, does not have 10 establishments he can indulge in all the fat, creamy goodness he wants.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Michael Bloomberg is a few fries short of a happy meal.


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User currently onlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2825 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Michael Bloomberg is a few fries short of a happy meal.

And 16 oz shy of a large soda.



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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7924 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

He doesn't seem to be doing a horrible job of mayor. He spent a gigantic amount of money to be reelected but if he was genuinely unpopular, no amount would have made it work. I visit NY a lot and it seems to work pretty well. One thing I have noticed in this century is the continual degradation of American infrastructure and I don't see it so much in NY as elsewhere (the road from the airport in Seattle last week just about shook my fillings out - and California is much worse).

So in my opinion he's doing OK. America could sure use a few more right wingers who aren't extremists.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2550 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
America could sure use a few more right wingers who aren't extremists.

Amen to that !

I think the guy is really genuine, and his intentions are good, so overall I feel he is doing a very challenging job well.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 5):
But since the Le Cirque, where no doubt he dines every week, does not have 10 establishments he can indulge in all the fat, creamy goodness he wants.

Going by his stature, I think he probably skips desert !



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2849 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

Quoting GEEZER (Thread starter):
I think it may be entirely possible that we may see Mayor Bloombrrg calling for a "ban" on the law of gravity in New York City before he leaves office, (if he ever leaves office) This would result in people who insist on jumping off of tall buildings in NYC being unable to do so, thus negating the need for the City's union sanitation workers to "clean up" unsightly messes from the streets and sidewalks of the city, and incurring substantial savings in operating expenses

Good one Charlie
Just a quick pass through the legal dept with this gravity law and no one would be able to ever step foot in NYC and then there would be no one to tax.

Okie


User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3791 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
America could sure use a few more right wingers who aren't extremists.

He is as far removed from the right as you could possibly imagine. He is a big government, big spending bureaucrat who believes he should be involved in every single aspect of somebody's live. He is the physical incarnation of the nanny state.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8044 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

I actually like the guy and believe he's good for the city.

Maybe that's because we have a really crummy Mayor.

We were in New York earlier this year and I was impressed with the city. Walked most places without concern and am ready to go back, even if it's on a few day stopover on the way to the UK.


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

He's better than David, ignore the race riots in Crown Heights, Dinkins or Rudy, my Police Chief is in the Mob, Giulianni.


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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

I'd comment on what a shmuck I think Nanny Bloomberg is, but I'm enjoying a 16 oz ice blended too much to care.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21080 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 14):
I'm enjoying a 16 oz ice blended too much to care.

Which you will continue to be able to do in NYC.   

-Mir



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3791 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 15):
Which you will continue to be able to do in NYC.

Just make sure it is not 500 ml (16.9 oz).


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User currently offlineCorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

I used to work for the City of NY and I’ve met both Giuliani and Bloomberg. Bloomberg is a super nice guy, humble and very genuine. Giuliani? Well, while I admire the work he did to clean up this city from the disaster that was Dinkins, he was an arrogant schmuck. Very smart, though.

I think Bloomberg’s done a great job at taking the city and improving it where Giuliani left it. Crime has gone down, the economy is fairly stable still and he’s done a pretty good job at retaining businesses here. He is, of course, a businessman, so he would know how to do that. I think he’s a bit draconian on some issues. For instance, I smoke and it’s almost impossible to smoke inside places anymore. I don’t like that rule, but I have to respect it and I see why it’s around.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):
He's come out in support of fracking in Ny State, strictly regulated of course. One of the best changes he implemented was have restaurants include calories on their menus, real eye opener. Now I see restaurants doing that Nation wide.

I actually agree with this, even though I didn’t at first. He also implemented a law banning trans fats. I travel around a lot and NY is one of the thinnest cities in the country. This law probably helps. Too many people in other US cities are blobs.


User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 15):
Which you will continue to be able to do in NYC.

Not really...

But I'm not going to argue. Point is no matter how Nanny Bloomberg wants to parse it, it's invasive government run amok and is a violation of individual liberty by do-gooding liberal statists.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21080 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 18):
Not really...

Yes really. 16oz drinks are fine under the proposed regulation.

-Mir



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3329 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

Quoting GEEZER (Thread starter):
One of the other things I find so fascinating about Mayor Bloomberg is, he seems to want to be a politician, yet he has a lot of difficulty trying to decide which party he wants to be identified with; in this case, I think he probably wants to be.....his own "party"; the "Mayor Bloomberg Party" as it were.

Good!! I wish there were more like him who pull both ways depending on the issue at hand.

Quoting GEEZER (Thread starter):
He had one more "great idea" a few weeks ago, but I can't seem to recall just now what it was; ( I do remember that I disagreed with him at the time ) Oh.....I just remembered; he wanted to propose a ban on selling soda pop in restaurants to a maximum size of (I think) 16 oz.?) (maybe 12 oz. not sure) I remember that there was quite a stir over that "idea".

It was but when it was implemented I don't think anyone cared. There is a simple workaround buy two if you are that addicted to coke.


Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):

He's come out in support of fracking in Ny State, strictly regulated of course. One of the best changes he implemented was have restaurants include calories on their menus, real eye opener. Now I see restaurants doing that Nation wide.

I was just in NY over the weekend (drove back today) and its a great idea. I looked at the menu a lot more thoroughly and look at the best balance of what will fill me up and what was healthy. I especially like the sides list and their calories.

I will try to stay away from McFlurries lol.



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
Yes really. 16oz drinks are fine under the proposed regulation.

OK, sorry I didn't say 17 oz....we can split hairs, the point remains. It's tyranny.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 21):
OK, sorry I didn't say 17 oz....we can split hairs, the point remains. It's tyranny.

Tyranny imposed by billionaires is an old and oft-repeated tale in the classics of American meritocracy. Nothing has really changed, except this time it's soda instead of something else.



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 21):
Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
Yes really. 16oz drinks are fine under the proposed regulation.

OK, sorry I didn't say 17 oz....we can split hairs, the point remains. It's tyranny.

Only being able to inject yourself with 16oz of sugar at a time is tyranny? Those poor, poor New Yorkers, it must be awful...

But then there is the obvious solution:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 20):
buy two if you are that addicted to coke.

     



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 23):
Only being able to inject yourself with 16oz of sugar at a time is tyranny? Those poor, poor New Yorkers, it must be awful...

It doesn't matter of the issue is beverages, firearms, free speech, or anything: in a free society where individual liberty is the law of the land, people should have the right to do as they please as long as it isn't infriging upon the rights of others. This is governmental intervention and duress by regulatory fiat and it's wrong.


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3329 posts, RR: 9
Reply 25, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 24):
It doesn't matter of the issue is beverages, firearms, free speech, or anything: in a free society where individual liberty is the law of the land, people should have the right to do as they please as long as it isn't infriging upon the rights of others.

I see this as the equivalent of taxing cigarettes and alcohol which most people do not have a problem with. Soft drinks are useless calories that have no benefit to the person consuming it. Also this does affect others as the people who will drink more than 16oz of coke or Pepsi in a single sitting will cost the general public more money in future health problems.

Do what Australia does and tax these things (they do it with booze and cigarettes) and funnel it all into the health care system so the users who will cost the health care system more are paying more in.



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User currently offlinestarbuk7 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 599 posts, RR: 5
Reply 26, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 25):
I see this as the equivalent of taxing cigarettes and alcohol which most people do not have a problem with. Soft drinks are useless calories that have no benefit to the person consuming it. Also this does affect others as the people who will drink more than 16oz of coke or Pepsi in a single sitting will cost the general public more money in future health problems.



And there in lies the problems. Why if I happen to smoke or drink should I have to pay a tax because some politician decided it should be that way. I want a 42 oz soda from circle K that only costs me $0.96 cents. I did not ask you to pay for my health care, in fact, 80% of the country did not ask for government run health care. I was just fine paying for my own health care and if I needed to pay more for my bad habits of partaking in things that I ENJOY because I live in a FREE country and can make my own choices than so be it.

Government needs to STOP making decisions that I can make for myself. STOP telling me how to live my life. This is why this is a FREE country.

Rant Over.


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 27, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 26):
And there in lies the problems. Why if I happen to smoke or drink should I have to pay a tax because some politician decided it should be that way. I want a 42 oz soda from circle K that only costs me $0.96 cents. I did not ask you to pay for my health care, in fact, 80% of the country did not ask for government run health care. I was just fine paying for my own health care and if I needed to pay more for my bad habits of partaking in things that I ENJOY because I live in a FREE country and can make my own choices than so be it.

Government needs to STOP making decisions that I can make for myself. STOP telling me how to live my life. This is why this is a FREE country.

Aren't Canada, Australia, UK, and France FREE countries too?



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3329 posts, RR: 9
Reply 28, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 26):
And there in lies the problems. Why if I happen to smoke or drink should I have to pay a tax because some politician decided it should be that way.

Because your liver problems, heart disease, lung cancer etc. will cost me and everyone else money to treat. You may not think that is the case but the state still has the obligation to treat you even if your health insurance lets you go.

We know this stuff is bad for you.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 27):
Aren't Canada, Australia, UK, and France FREE countries too?

Much more free in a lot of areas.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2550 posts, RR: 6
Reply 29, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 28):
Much more free in a lot of areas.

You bet cha we are !

And we don't have this continual problem of the "constitution" and the "its a violation of my rights" being brought up in the argument either, complicating matters even more.

We all just accept it here and its great.   



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 30, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 26):
Government needs to STOP making decisions that I can make for myself. STOP telling me how to live my life. This is why this is a FREE country.

Other countries are free too. Maybe in Japan I'm required, like all other residents, to be part of the national health insurance scheme, but at least when I got divorced nobody told me how much I had to pay or which day of the week I could see the kids or anything like that. The government stays out of such things completely - individuals must work these things out themselves.



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8868 posts, RR: 40
Reply 31, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 28):
Because your liver problems, heart disease, lung cancer etc. will cost me and everyone else money to treat.

It doesn't have to. . .

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 28):
You may not think that is the case but the state still has the obligation to treat you even if your health insurance lets you go.

It doesn't have to have that obligation, just simply pass a law removing the old one requiring such thing.

1. The state should enforce the insurance contract.

2. In the unlikely case that the person cannot afford insurance or does not have it for any other reason, charities can take care of this pretty easily. No, I don't mean this joke of "insurance" that we have today that isn't even insurance (you have the government to thank for that) and is extremely expensive (thank the government again)!

3. If a health care provider in the charitable arena decides that a person is trying to abuse the charity (should be very rare), they should have every right to deny that person care and the government should fully protect this.



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8868 posts, RR: 40
Reply 32, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 29):
And we don't have this continual problem of the "constitution" and the "its a violation of my rights" being brought up in the argument either, complicating matters even more.

Are you saying Australia has no limits on government power? Because I know that you are wrong.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2550 posts, RR: 6
Reply 33, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 31):
It doesn't have to. . .

I disagree

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 31):
1. The state should enforce the insurance contract.

What about Insurance providers "gouging" the system and making massive profits, at the insured expense ?

Are you going to expect Governments to control this in some way, with legislation ?

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 32):
Are you saying Australia has no limits on government power? Because I know that you are wrong.
Quoting PPVRA (Reply 31):
3. If a health care provider in the charitable arena decides that a person is trying to abuse the charity (should be very rare), they should have every right to deny that person care and the government should fully protect this.

And then who takes over the "patients" health care, once they have been found guilty of abusing said charity's good will or do you just throw them out on the streets ?

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 32):
Are you saying Australia has no limits on government power? Because I know that you are wrong.

Not at all.
But what Government power it wields around, seems on the whole, to be generally better accepted by the populous, than over in the US, or so it appears.



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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1169 posts, RR: 3
Reply 34, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Quoting GEEZER (Thread starter):
One of the other things I find so fascinating about Mayor Bloomberg is, he seems to want to be a politician, yet he has a lot of difficulty trying to decide which party he wants to be identified with;

You say that as if it's a bad thing! I'd argue that makes up for the soda thing right there....



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 35, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 31):
2. In the unlikely case that the person cannot afford insurance or does not have it for any other reason, charities can take care of this pretty easily.

So where do these charities get their money from?



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8044 posts, RR: 8
Reply 36, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

Quoting Corinthians (Reply 17):
This law probably helps.

I think it also helps that people in NYC walk a lot more than in most cities. You don't hop in a car to take the kids 6 blocks to school. I walk a lot more when I'm in a city like New York and actually feel better for it.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 22):
except this time it's soda instead of something else.

Instead of Diabetes?


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