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You're Running For President; What Do You Promise?  
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13766 posts, RR: 61
Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4553 times:
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A-netters are a fairly diverse group, and we have widely-varying political opinions.

I wonder, though - what would each of us try to do once in office if elected President of the United States?

Assume the following:

1. You're eligible to be elected President
2. It's irrelevant what your platform is; you WILL BE ELECTED

Knowing those two things, what would you seek to do once you're sworn in, from an agenda perspective?

For me, my priorities would be:

- Real, comprehensive tax reform where everyone pays their fair share (Flat Tax or similar)
- Make the U.S. much more "business-friendly" by enacting the lowest corporate tax rates in the world to encourage growth
- Cut unnecessary military spending, but only where needed (too many expensive overseas bases, for example)
- Bipartisan focus on creating balanced budgets (and hopefully, surpluses to pay down debt)
- Repeal of Obamacare in its current form
- Enact new healthcare legislation that protects the lifetime maximums and pre-existing conditions language from Obamacare
- Pack the Supreme Court with justices who believe in both the Second Amendment AND leaving Roe v. Wade intact.
- Welfare reform that requires the able-bodied to work and random drug testing

It's a start, anyway.


How about you armchair politicians out there - what would you focus on as President?


"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Legalize it, bro. Legalize it.

User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
you WILL BE ELECTED

The problem is, being elected doesn't matter if those in Congress swear they will not work with you. You can commit to working with others but then the others will use whatever you say to attack you so they can make sure you won't win the next election.

But to your topic, I would be very similar to what you have stated. Though I suspect that how I would do what you are seeking is just different enough that you would find it objectionable. And I just don't have any idea how I would get it done if I or others can't compromise (i.e pass a "Democrat" or a "Republican" version of something) .

Tugg



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User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4510 times:

Restoring a sense of civic unity and purpose. We don't share anything as a country. Everyone is in their own sphere, and that's fine, but it's slowly sapping our ability to govern ourselves. For example (and just for example- what I'm talking about occurs in many ways from many people,) when Obama says he wants to let the Bush tax cuts expire except on the middle class. From a wonk perspective, that makes some sense. The rich aren't paying much right now, Uncle Sam needs the money, and we can't put too much pressure on the primary engine of consumer spending. However by framing tax policy in this way, Obama implicitly slices the pie, assigns different responsibilities to different people. Eventually, or maybe already, the top earners' America looks nothing like the "middle class" America. In terms of values, in terms of legal obligation, and as we may be seeing with the divergence of how people interpret the news now, in terms of what reality they accept.

Likewise, we've committed our military to a decade of war. It's true that since the last time we went to war for a long time the logistic and material requirements for supporting it were much different from the way they are today. But there are plenty of our leaders who say the threat and rationale for war is just as important as it was then. So why can I spend a whole week living a fairly ordinary suburban life without seeing a single sign that a war is taking place, outside a few newspaper articles? No one has asked for a sacrifice or a commitment from the public at large to carry out these endeavors, that by our democratic practice we endorse, of sending men and women to kill and die in our name.

In short, our leaders have spent a long time convincing the bulk of us that we can have everything we want, at the expense of a few here or there that won't vote for them. That's no way to hold a country together. If I led I would single nothing out. If taxes were to be raised, they would go up for everyone; if lowered, they would fall for everyone. If we went to war, I would establish programs and surcharges to sustain it that, while not universal in scope, would be at least largely unmissable.

Also, I would appoint some gun-control advocates to the Supreme Court. The NRA has spent years making hay out of sending messages to their members that judicial fiat is about to destroy their rights. It's high time that they actually had a reason to say it.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5794 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4500 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):

- Real, comprehensive tax reform where everyone pays their fair share (Flat Tax or similar)

I'm not sure what's best here, but I think everyone should have to pay something, even if just a token amount. However, under certain income levels it should just be that bare minimum. As you get higher up the food chain, paying a higher tax rate would seem "fair".

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Make the U.S. much more "business-friendly" by enacting the lowest corporate tax rates in the world to encourage growth

It's going to piss a lot of people off when that company accepts the tax rate cut - then cuts 10,000 jobs. Will there be something to hold them to keeping their operations here?

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Cut unnecessary military spending, but only where needed (too many expensive overseas bases, for example)

Yes.

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Bipartisan focus on creating balanced budgets (and hopefully, surpluses to pay down debt

Amen!

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Welfare reform that requires the able-bodied to work and random drug testing

Amen!

Frankly, we are messed up in so many ways that I'm not sure where to start or what could be done. I'd like to see the prison population reduced, but I'm not for legalization of drugs. I'm against abortion, but I agree that there needs to be exceptions. I think we need to penalize companies that move money/jobs overseas by perhaps a higher tax rate - not sure how to judge that or who'd be the judge. I just believe that a small minority of companies/people are harming our nation by milking it for all it's worth while doing so many things that harm our workers/tax income. Until these people/companies change their ways we'll never feel comfortable moving away from the government being our parent/caretaker.

-Dave



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User currently offlineAesma From Reunion, joined Nov 2009, 6963 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4444 times:

I don't think national policy matters much in a global economy (at least not for the US that has nothing exceptional among developed nations, it's not like you have a tax double the average or something), so I would work mainly on leveling the global playing field. Play hard ball with China to open its markets and let its money evaluate, for example. I would also create a national VAT similar to what exists in the EU, that would help plug the budget and finance health care reform (a new reform that would be far less lucrative for the private sector), and incidentally give an advantage to local production by removing the health care burden from companies, paid for by importations.

I'm not against a flat tax in theory but in practice it wouldn't bring enough money. In fact here even with a progressive tax similar to the US, the VAT brings far more money, a flat tax would be irrelevant unless it was a 50% one (along with a doubling of the minimum wage or something, to help the middle class and poor pay it). I doubt you would support that.

It's interesting that you mention you (we) would get elected no matter what, because in the US it's quite possible, at this point you only have two possible candidates. If one of them had a big problem, say, it was revealed he was committing something illegal, then the other could promise anything, even very unpopular, and get elected. Granted, the house would probably end up in the opposite camp. Here we have at least ten candidates, if one of the two main ones (that combined make barely more than 50% of the first round vote) started promising sweat and blood, he would be booted off the second round.



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User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1098 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4431 times:
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1. Double the NASA budget and set clear goals for the development of multi purpose launch platforms and destinations etc.
2. Cut military spending
3. Raise taxes for the rich
4. Set a mandatory minimum wage. (None of this 4$ if you are tipped staff nonsense)
5. Fund all the R and D that you can, with the condition that all of the byproducts must stay in the USA for 10 years or face significant penalties. (This includes selling patents and IP as well as setting up manufacturing
6. Legalize non harmful drugs such as Acid, Pot etc and tax them like alcohol.
7. Cut all faith based organization funding including not taxing churches
8. Free university education to all in the STEM fields (And free education to all in second term regardless of degree) provided you maintain a certain average, which will be less than the current bursary and grant boundaries and high enough so that it's not a free ride for you to drink away your school years without passing.
9. Champion the scientific and skeptical examination of major issues such as climate change.
10. Mandate all energy companies begin to invest in alternative and clean fuels or face penalties.
11. Increase accountability. Anyone found to be accepting bribes, or otherwise defrauding the government or the citizens will not only be removed from office, but will be forced to return all pay and benefits (travel etc) that the government spent during their term and will be barred from re election.
12. Get rid of Fox News and shut down any form of media that has been found to deliberately lie to the public to advance political goals. (not just spin or reporting on things with a certain slant, but outright fabrication (like fox))
13. FREE PUBLIC HEALTHCARE/HEALTH INSURANCE (Like what we have in Canada)



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4383 times:

Anyone running for President should not promise anything.

1. No one not already in the position can know all the conflicting requirements,

2. The President does not have the ability to control funding or passage of laws - only the ability to influence some of those decisions.

The US President is not a dictator or a king. He is also not a CEO. He has none of those powers.


User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2581 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

1. A taxpayer-funded unconditional basic income, in the range of 800 to 1000 $ per month and adult, 400 to 500 per month and child. Minimum wages are abolished.

2. Taxpayer-funded healthcare.

3. Independence from foreign energy sources.

4. Copyrights and patents will last for 20 years.

5. Legalizing sale, purchase, possession and use of all drugs if the person is at least 18 years old. Selling contaminated drugs is a criminal offense.

6. A marriage is the union of two or more consenting, non-related human beings.

7. The government actively supports public transportation, and it drastically lowers the cost of education - especially at college and university level.

8. Money shall not be used to conserve wealth anymore. It will be used to promote trade and commerce. To that end, money will lose one to two percent of its value each year.

9. Strict separation of religion and the state. Policies of educational institutions and hospitals are founded on scientific knowledge, not on the values of any religion.

10. A draft for every inhabitant of the country. The draftees can freely chose between the armed forces and civilian duty.


David



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5794 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 7):
Anyone running for President should not promise anything.

Amen.

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 8):
1. A taxpayer-funded unconditional basic income, in the range of 800 to 1000 $ per month and adult, 400 to 500 per month and child. Minimum wages are abolished.

I think that would be a nice gesture that would do nothing to actually help people. Alaska has the permanent fund dividend that gives money annually to every man, woman, and child. I watched for years as trailer after trailer of people would roll in, kids would be popping out, and abject poverty would ensue. People just wanted the check.

I think you'd actually have a labor shortage because there are so many people who would prefer to just sit on their butts and collect a check - particularly if they'll earn another $6K a year by having a kid.

-Dave



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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

I can't wait, I'm lowering interest rates, my people say:

"Prez, how are you such a genius?
There's a roof overhead
and food on our plates!"

It's laissez-faire, I don't even give a care
Let's make Friday part of the weekend
And give every new baby a chocolate eclair



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4291 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 9):
I think you'd actually have a labor shortage because there are so many people who would prefer to just sit on their butts and collect a check - particularly if they'll earn another $6K a year by having a kid.

  
In some ways is is part of the problem right now! The extended unemployment checks have given some the choice to continue to not work because the unemployment is higher than the jobs they are seeing. You can't have permanent payment structures (i.e. welfare without time limits) because a subset of people will use them instead of work. ANd that is not right and fair to everyone else.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 9):
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 7):
Anyone running for President should not promise anything.

Amen.

The best quote I just recently heard (though I am sure it has been around forever) is: "The President does not control the economy, the economy controls the President." That is the whole problem with making promises on the economy or that are impacted/controlled by it (and for why they are often broken).

Tugg



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Better Security,Less expenditure,more earnings.


Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8978 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4250 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 8):
8. Money shall not be used to conserve wealth anymore. It will be used to promote trade and commerce. To that end, money will lose one to two percent of its value each year.

That's called inflation and it already happens. Also, if you don't conserve wealth you will kill off aviation and other similarly high-level, expensive economic activity.

[Edited 2012-09-06 12:45:49]


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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

That I only really cared about what the 10-15million people who haven't already decided how to vote (based simply on a D or R) thought.

User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

-Continue support for the legalization of gay marriage in all states.

-Allow the increase of oil drilling in the U.S. Any negligence that causes severe environmental damage (like the BP oil spill in the gulf) will face severe consequences. While oil drilling continues, the search and development of new energies will continue.

-Support better public transport infrastructure in major cities. Cut most of Amtrak's routes except the Northeast Corridor and other major routes.

-Decrease the cost to go to college. If someone wants to go to college, but can't afford it, the U.S. government will help.

-Cut military spending. Try to make peace with North Korea and other countries that don't exactly like the U.S. with peace negotiations.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

I'd stick with promises I could keep. That means no promises for legislation.

*Will direct the FDA to reclassify cannabis as Schedule II
*Will direct the DOJ and DEA to immediately cease enforcing marijuana possession laws
*Will work to streamline DHS and especially the TSA, including comprehensive, evidence-based reviews of new policies prior to enactment.
*Will withdraw troops from Afghanistan.
*Will refuse to sign any legislation of any sort until taxes are returned to pre-GWB levels.

These are promises that can be handled at an executive level. I can't legalize drugs because that requires an act of Congress. I can, however, stop enforcing drug laws. Similarly, DHS and TSA are under the executive branch. I can't get rid of them, but I can influence how they are run.


User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3095 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4156 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 4):
Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Welfare reform that requires the able-bodied to work and random drug testing

Amen!

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Push for:

1) English official
2) Born in the US abolished
3)Bank reform.This is one of the most important of my policies.Inform banks to go "Back To The Future." Push for higher interests yields on CD's,savings accounts and other investments.When I was growing up I got told,"Put in the bank." As POTUS I want that to happen again and let people's money to grow. "Deferment Payment Program" those with excellent credit ratings get 6 months deferment payment of one or all payment deferment with NO worries on credit score.They can take all at once or spread it out.Those with less credit get 4 months.NO new applications will apply on anything and must be on line with payment record for at least 8 months before deferments can occur.

The banks are the secret of recovery.They are the source of everything in rebuilding.Reform the banks!

4) Government Unions reformed or 401K's.Even democrats have arrived to conclude unions have to big of the pie.
5)Jobs! Jobs! Tax breaks for businesses.
6)Lawyers reform act to restore some sanity.If I had it my way. Awards- up to 1 million non death,3 million death.No class action lawsuits as want business to come back home!
7)Abolish the Dream act in Ca.
8)High speed train in Ca.
9) Do a Kennedy.Send a man to Mars and return him safely to the earth.
10)Welfare reform.All able bodies from 18 to 40 must work for their checks.Eliminate all recreational usage of EBT cards or taxpayer of any kind including alcohol ,vacation or casinos.
11)Downsize international civilian and military.END THE WARS for real.No more broken promises from OBAMA.
12) Accounting of medical and IRS fraud needs to be better monitored.
13)Eminent Domain has been tossed around the cities of San Bernardino and Fontana here in Ca that might try to fix the underwater loans.
14)Promote Green but at the same time exploit America's domestic choices for energy.
15)Once the economy has recover,start thinking about free education for legal citizens of all ages.
16) Open skies for aviation.
17) Promote civilian space travel.
18) Abolish sell shorts on Wall St.

Well.there is my plan.As you can see I've managed to piss everybody off so I'll keep my day job.

VOTE PSA53!!!!

[Edited 2012-09-06 16:54:08]


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User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2581 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4142 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 13):
That's called inflation and it already happens. Also, if you don't conserve wealth you will kill off aviation and other similarly high-level, expensive economic activity.

No. What I am proposing is called demurrage, not inflation. With demurrage, loss of value is an inherent part of the currency, while inflation is a function of the markets and the economical situation.

You can look up the "Freigeld" concept, where money, like apples, cars and buildings, loses value over time. Money, together with real estate, is the only thing in the world that can be kept for indefinite times and does not lose value. 100 $ are still 100 $ in a hundred years. Isn't that a strange thing? IMHO, yes.

One older Freigeld concept used bills where you had to periodically buy stamps which you had to affix on the money bills, otherwise the bills would be forfeited.

Money, yes, is used to conserve wealth. Without money, we could return to barter trade, and our economy would be crippled overnight. But the idea of Freigeld is that you are forced to spend your money over time, thus pumping back your personal wealth into the economy - something the very rich people do not do.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 9):
I think that would be a nice gesture that would do nothing to actually help people. Alaska has the permanent fund dividend that gives money annually to every man, woman, and child. I watched for years as trailer after trailer of people would roll in, kids would be popping out, and abject poverty would ensue. People just wanted the check.

In Switzerland, the average inhabitant already gets more than $1000/month from the state in form of various payments, be it welfare, pensions, jobless pay, reduced healthcare insurance premiums, disability insurance. With an unconditional income, much bureaucratic costs could be cut.

And because people would have a guaranteed income no matter what, many jobs have to be better paid. "Well, why should I work for 8 $ an hour cleaning the streets?" That way, the game would be changed, and jobs that are actually needed by society (like those men cleaning streets and footwalks) will be paid better. The same is with the hitherto unpaid work of mothers and grandparents when they help to raise children.

I know very few people who enjoy welfare payment and the copious amounts of free time. But I know many people who care for their children, look for jobs and if they don't get one, they do voluntary work. The notion that people are lazy by nature simply isn't true, my experience is telling me.


David

[Edited 2012-09-06 17:00:42]


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4119 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Enact new healthcare legislation that protects the lifetime maximums and pre-existing conditions language from Obamacare

And to add: remove that silly mandate requirement.



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4113 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 19):
Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Enact new healthcare legislation that protects the lifetime maximums and pre-existing conditions language from Obamacare

And to add: remove that silly mandate requirement.

Those two are mutually exclusive. You cannot eliminate the preexisting conditions requirement and have lifetime maximums without ensuring that everyone signs up. Otherwise everyone will wait until they get sick/have a problem and then sign up. I know I would if I knew I could not be denied coverage.

I guess you might just be advocating to make it an actual tax that the IRS administrates which would of course work (and is how the Supreme Court interpreted the mandate).

Tugg

[Edited 2012-09-06 17:41:49]


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8965 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 8):
1. A taxpayer-funded unconditional basic income, in the range of 800 to 1000 $ per month and adult, 400 to 500 per month and child. Minimum wages are abolished.

Who would pay for this?

My Platform:

1) Shut down Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Sally Mae, Repeal CRA - the true cause of the 2008 meltdown.

2) Eliminate all government employee pension plans, in favor of 401Ks, other benefits shall be indexed to prevailing private sector levels.

3) Lift the cap on SSI withholding on your paycheck. If you make $10 million, you will pay $62,000 to SSI.

4) New Income tax system. All earned revenue earned or paid in the US shall be taxed at 5% up to $25K, 10% from $25-$40K, 15% from $40-$50K, 20% from $50-$75K, 25% from $75-$100K, 30% from $100-$150K, 35% from $150-$200K, 40% from $200K and above. No Capital Gains tax. Any stocks or stock options are fully taxable, both at the company level and individually (If you think your CEO is worth $100 million per year, better to just pay him cash and be done with it). Deduction for Mortgage interest (for primary residence only), and tuition expenses, and charities, and nothing else. No tax credits for anything. The principle is that you should be able to figure your taxes on the back of a paper napkin, even if you are Bill Gates.

5) Push for Constitutional Convention (to bypass Congress and push for Amendment requiring the passage of a federal budget every year. If no budget is passed in any year, ALL Congressmen and Senators of the session shall not be eligible for federal office election, re-election, or appointed office, ever.

6) Amendment: All taxes, fees, fines, and the criteria for triggering them shall be set by Congress, not the bureaucracy. No longer shall the EPA and other agencies have free reign to set absurd standards and prosecute for them.

7) Amendment: Re-affirming the 10th Amendment, any function not EXPLICITLY provided for in the Constitution and Amendments shall be disallowed to the federal government. No more broad interpretations of Commerce or Welfare clauses. No more federal bitching about abortion or marriage.

8) Phased elimination of Medicare and Medicaid.

9) Amendment: States shall be required to ensure that their residents are medically insured for catastrophic illness or accident (how they do that is their own business, either through individual mandates or single-payer) at least. Insured status of residents of one state when traveling to another state shall be honored, and billable to the state of residency. Let the states compete and figure out what works, with only a handful of federal guidelines (such as no insurance dropping you when you get sick).

10) Repeal 17th Amendment, to ensure that States re-assert their authority over the federal government.

11) States shall administer Social Security, using block grants from federal government (see point 3), and their own additional funds if they like. This is to take into account and correct for states which have high retiree populations like Florida.

12) No business should have to deal with more than a few pages of federal regulations.

I have a lot more, but those should be enough to piss off just about everyone. I'd never get elected.



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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1413 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4094 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 5):


I don't think national policy matters much in a global economy (at least not for the US that has nothing exceptional among developed nations, it's not like you have a tax double the average or something), so I would work mainly on leveling the global playing field. Play hard ball with China to open its markets and let its money evaluate, for example. I would also create a national VAT similar to what exists in the EU, that would help plug the budget and finance health care reform (a new reform that would be far less lucrative for the private sector), and incidentally give an advantage to local production by removing the health care burden from companies, paid for by importations.

Indeed. What the US needs to prioritize is bringing itself to a more global friendly position. It's past time to end american exceptionalism. To this end, most of what you said is right on, but in addition, it's time to draw down military expenditures and overbearing commitments abroad.

Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 6):

7. Cut all faith based organization funding including not taxing churches

Absolutely. There is nothing in our exiting legal framework that says religions are entitled to this free ride.

Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 6):
12. Get rid of Fox News and shut down any form of media that has been found to deliberately lie to the public to advance political goals. (not just spin or reporting on things with a certain slant, but outright fabrication (like fox))

Not sure if we can do this based on 1st amendment issues, but yes, it's time to look into taking measures against interests that present a level of harm to largest balance of citizens. While we can't command them out of business per se, I think something along the lines of prohibitive fines and introducing new tax brackets for such organizations, as well as invasive enforcement of literally every law, rule and regulation (even where seemingly contradictory) would certainly commence.



But most importantly, we spend an ungodly amount of money on military adventures. I'd direct the armed forces to be cut down to a level that's actually necessary for the common defense. I think about 10% of what we actually have is suitable for this end. The only exception I can think of would be maintaining a strong Naval presence in an effort to keep the sea lanes open for trade. But I also feel that it's time for China to pay her dues there too. They want to sell trillions in exports? Great. Time for them to help pay for the infrastructure they use to do so.

The savings here would amount to quite a large percentage of our economic output. A small percentage of this can go toward servicing the national deficit, but let's not get carried away. The truth is that deficit really has a negligible effect
on our daily lives. Our shitty infrastructure, lack of credible public transportation in most cities, lack of free, comprehensive healthcare, and our government's sadly cool treatment of scientific R&D (not limited to but including our complete underfunding of space exploration), does not. These items, indispensable for our future, can easily be afforded by the aforementioned drawdowns.



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8978 posts, RR: 39
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4089 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 18):
No. What I am proposing is called demurrage, not inflation. With demurrage, loss of value is an inherent part of the currency, while inflation is a function of the markets and the economical situation.

False. Inflation is a monetary phenomenon and is caused by monetary policy - i.e., by people.


Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 18):
You can look up the "Freigeld" concept, where money, like apples, cars and buildings, loses value over time. Money, together with real estate, is the only thing in the world that can be kept for indefinite times and does not lose value. 100 $ are still 100 $ in a hundred years. Isn't that a strange thing? IMHO, yes.

No, it's not a strange thing at all when one of the purposes of money is to be a store of value! And that's only if you are speaking of gold or another commodity backed money, the dollar and euro absolutely lose value.


Lastly, to show how impossible what you seek is, is that as soon as you implement such a thing, people will revert back to trading in commodities - like cigarettes, alcohol, etc. This has happened before. All those things will outlast your monopoly money.

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 18):
Money, yes, is used to conserve wealth. Without money, we could return to barter trade, and our economy would be crippled overnight. But the idea of Freigeld is that you are forced to spend your money over time, thus pumping back your personal wealth into the economy - something the very rich people do not do.

And if you spend the money on acquiring land and other long lasting resources like gold, silver, copper, steel, wine, art? You don't think it's possible to accumulate wealth in a bartering system? Think again.

An economy based 100% on consumption means we would go the way of Easter Island.



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
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Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

EA CO AS you have my vote  
Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Real, comprehensive tax reform where everyone pays their fair share (Flat Tax or similar)

Love it!

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Cut unnecessary military spending, but only where needed (too many expensive overseas bases, for example)

Love it!

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Make the U.S. much more "business-friendly" by enacting the lowest corporate tax rates in the world to encourage growth

LOVE IT!!!!!

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Repeal of Obamacare in its current form
- Enact new healthcare legislation that protects the lifetime maximums and pre-existing conditions language from Obamacare

   also remove anything elective from coverage.

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
- Welfare reform that requires the able-bodied to work and random drug testing

  

Quoting sw733 (Reply 1):
Legalize it, bro. Legalize it.

   Just marijuana. Age 20 to smoke it.

Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 6):
1. Double the NASA budget and set clear goals for the development of multi purpose launch platforms and destinations etc.

Love it but not that high.


My other stuff:
-Drinking age: 19 if no H.S. diploma, 18 with diploma.
-State issued IDs for every legal citizen, to end the whole voter-id debate. On I.D. will include if 1) H.S. Grad, 2) College student, 2) College grad 3) career
-funds going into research for SMART green energy, not stuff that the hippies think we need.
-funds going to fracking and other forms of oil extraction.
-reform the education system from a school-wide merit base to an individual-merit base, with incentives given to students to succeed based off of what students are interested in.
-removal of tax breaks for green energy. it's too much of a waste of money.
-a national infrastructure pool to keep people moving on the roads with little problems on the roads as possible.
-a national survey of the nation every year to see what the nation's population wants the government to spend tax dollars on, the details of the survey to be based off of congressional budget office suggestions.



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25 Post contains images StarAC17 : Makes perfect sense!! Loopholes only exist because the ones who propose them benefit. The only change I would make to this is that capital gains is 6
26 kiwiinoz : Hmmm, an interesting one. I am not American, but will have a stab at it: Economy and Infrastructure: Tax advantages for exporters Higher tax rates for
27 PHX787 : See my other point about state-issued IDs THANK YOU!
28 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : Uh, no. Just because a $100 bill is valued at $100 doesn't mean it's worth $100. That bill would have bought you a lot more 25 years ago than it woul
29 Post contains images Superfly : EA CO AS for President! If Superfly were President; -10% flat tax across the board. No deductions, loopholes or write offs what so ever. -Kick out th
30 Post contains images PHX787 : 'Fly I'm surprised you haven't issued a national quota on large asian chicks Agree partially- I really do like UNICEF agree I don't know a single soul
31 Cadet985 : I wouldn't promise anything other then to work with Congress to try to get things done because if you have a Congress that is dead set against you, no
32 Post contains images Superfly : I'd kick them out too! I know but I need to keep my liberal credentials.
33 AF1624 : Okay I'll try this, sounds like a nice game. - Like someone above said, "do a Kennedy". Send man to the moon and then to Mars in a timely manner. Kids
34 PlanesNTrains : What a bizarre and insulting statement. Do you really think uneducated people are the only ones spewing hate or misinformation? I mean, seriously, wh
35 kiwiinoz : Actually it's generally the educated ones spewing the misinformation. They rely on the uneducated to swallow it Who's read "Animal Farm"?
36 AF1624 : I think we are not talking about the same education here. By education I mean basic education, not necessarily college education. Geography. History.
37 windy95 : Send all illegal aliens packing and set up a lottery for seasonal work permits. Offer unemployed the jobs opened by the removing of the illegals. If y
38 Post contains images bjorn14 : I agree. No deductions, no loopholes. The left would claim it will badly affect the poor. Why would you do that? Asking them to make something they k
39 StarAC17 : Missed that, my bad. Isn't the rate 15%?? I would make it about 60-70% of the top marginal tax rate so if that was 40%, it would be in the ballpark o
40 PlanesNTrains : I think on this statement I just need to check out of this thread. -Dave
41 Dreadnought : Not to mention people who are educated, but have been taught a load of BS. History is full of such examples. The most educated people in the world tr
42 Post contains images PHX787 : To save face because of your connections in Sodo---orrrr I mean San Fan Agreed but I do like the One Nation under god thing because it's simply apart
43 Post contains links YYZatcboy : Recently Fox was denied a license to bring service to Canada because they knowingly falsify information. As I said, not spin, but knowingly lying wit
44 Post contains links sccutler : Interesting. The article cited doesn't actually provide any information. Perhaps you can help us all out here. Of what "lies" do you speak? Every new
45 DarkSnowyNight : The problem is that keeping religious orgs off the taxable list is a tacit (and huge) 1st amendment violation. That's what really needs to be address
46 sccutler : What, in the current ATC system, causes congestion? This is not a trick question.
47 Post contains links YYZatcboy : Actually it turns out that Fox is not actuall banned here, the license was denied to a start up news channel that was supposed to be "fox news North"
48 Post contains images Superfly : I forgot to add; -Repeal FATCA -Stop taxing Americans working in other countries The USA is the only country that does this. It needs to stop. 15-20%
49 fr8mech : In my opinion, it's the First Amendment that compels the government to provide tax exempt status for all religious organizations. The power to tax so
50 DarkSnowyNight : Perhaps, but so has the power of a bad quarter or a soft economy. The purposes of taxation (except in rare excise cases) is not to ban or destroy som
51 StarAC17 : I think 19 for drinking is a good age, that is what it is for most Canadian provinces and it pretty much guarantees that they are out of high school.
52 windy95 : How? To steal from the Taxpayers? It is all relevant because the price is deflated lower now due to the slave illegal labor. They already have it wit
53 jetblueguy22 : Probably not going to make many friends with this post, oh well. I am going to pretend Congress is going to agree with me on all this. Which is silly
54 fr8mech : Actually, the president can have an effect on gas prices, especially if there is a compliant congress. Loosen restrictions on drilling on federal lan
55 PlanesNTrains : That may be the purpose, but in practice it is often very different. -Dave
56 Post contains links fr8mech : And the reason for the excise taxes on tobacco or for.... What about the push in the past to increase the tax on ammunition in order to make it unaff
57 Post contains images PHX787 : People become a teacher to TEACH the next generation. If you're only becoming a teacher simply for the money, then you're not worthy of being the tea
58 DarkSnowyNight : I think that's fair enough, but the question is where one draws the line. Would you say that union leaders shouldn't endorse a candidate on their own
59 PlanesNTrains : Yep. Hogwash. First of all, I seriously doubt most teachers become teachers "for the money", though they probably do consider a pension. However, the
60 Superfly : Too late. You're not Japanese and you will never become Japanese. If you get on with the US State Department and work in Japan, you will still be con
61 fr8mech : So long as they don't use the name of the union in their endorsement, I don't see a problem. It's a big First Amendment issue, that personally, I don
62 aerorobnz : I will assume that I am ordained the Head of State function in my own country - New Zealand, not the US which I don't know enough about to comment. I
63 DarkSnowyNight : If I'm being intellectually honest about it, yes, absolutely. But I certainly don't see it as a binary that way at all. Sure. I'm not understanding w
64 fr8mech : And, there it is: Liberalism is equality in mediocrity. Everyone MUST succeed even if it means holding back those that can excel. You know what? Some
65 DarkSnowyNight : And there it is: Conservatism is a myopic Intellectual Laziness making the assumption that we cannot raise the standards for everyone. That would alm
66 Dreadnought : Typical leftist oversimplification. You cannot raise the standard for everyone by forcibly taking it from people who are productive and giving it to
67 FlyPNS1 : Only if you attended a white, suburban/urban school were you the envy of the world. The rest of the country had dismal public schools back then...man
68 fr8mech : Who said anything about ending public education? I want accountability in education. If the public system is failing to educate our children, I see n
69 Post contains images PHX787 : Well I may have to explain myself here: If i can get an embassy job, great. If I can work for Boeing as some sort of customer service rep, and fly be
70 PlanesNTrains : That's for sure. Not an easy or simple situation to fix either. How do you fix that problem? Kids are not graduating high school, let alone going on
71 DarkSnowyNight : That's what removing DOE and handing everything over to the states would do. You have states like mine, (CA), where the budget is something a train w
72 PlanesNTrains : Can't do better? Is there NOTHING in the budget that could be managed better? Could have been managed better? I don't have the answers - I'm just won
73 DarkSnowyNight : We can raise taxes, and cut out some of our corporate subsidaries. Beyond that, I really don't know. I just know that we're so far upside down now, t
74 Dreadnought : How about (just a wild idea out of the blue here), getting control of our southern border and not having millions of people in the country willing to
75 FlyPNS1 : This is only a problem if people are willing to HIRE the illegal immigrants. You'll notice that since the economy tanked in 2007, the net number of i
76 Dreadnought : Because the market for menial labor is already saturated. While I agree in principle, it would mean cracking down on a lot of families who hired a Me
77 FlyPNS1 : It won't look good, but it's the only solution. Granted, I would start with the larger industries (large farms, construction companies, etc) and then
78 PlanesNTrains : I say raise taxes. Raise the gas tax for example. You've got enough cars out there it should be a no-brainer. Well, what has Calfornia done to contro
79 Post contains images PHX787 : Hahaha well knowing Japanese girls, they're not one to get married at her age (22) and usually not until they're about 30. She's also apparently high
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