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Rep Party Ditch Romney For Ryan / Rubio Ticket?  
User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 54
Posted (2 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Seems to me Romney cannot win this. He is permanently a few points behind in the polls - now 5% according to a WSJ poll on the TV that's on next to me in the hotel here in Sydney. Every time he opens his mouth, it's either a new gaffe or damage control on the one before. Remember when the convention, the daring veep pick and the debates were going to turn it around? Well he's had two out of three and it hasn't worked. My prediction is the debates will be a disaster. Seriously, the more we learn about this guy, the less likely he is to win. Obama is not a great president and doesn't deserve automatic reelection but it could end up being a landslide.

Parties don't like to lose elections and I am sure many Republicans are watching this campaign through a hole in a piece of cardboard, incredibly frustrated after the 2008 debacle. Ryan (of whom I am not a fan* at all) seems a better candidate and a livelier character, and Rubio did pretty well at an otherwise lucklustre (I am being kind) convention**, and will get a lot of votes from multicultural America that are off limits to the current ticket.

My footnotes aside, this is a serious question - is it too late, and they'll just have to tough it out and hope that by 2016 they'll be able to assemble a ticket that isn't a car crash? Or can the Republicans ditch the unelectable Romney and go with a ticket that might beat Obama?

* an Ayn Rand fan who spends their whole working life sucking at the teat of government?!
** problem with women? even the hurricane that threatened them was named after a man.


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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4789 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Thread starter):
Or can the Republicans ditch the unelectable Romney and go with a ticket that might beat Obama?

This year? No. Early voting starts within 3 weeks. The party would probably lose the house and the senate races in a landslide, along with the presidency.



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8951 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Thread starter):
Seems to me Romney cannot win this. He is permanently a few points behind in the polls - now 5% according to a WSJ poll on the TV that's on next to me in the hotel here in Sydney.

Man, all this negativity is getting me down. Romney is a couple of points behind on most polls, which tend to oversample Democrats, and even the "Likely voter" polls are using participation rates from the 2008 elections, when Obama supporters were more energized than today. A few polls have Romney climbing back on top. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 45% of the vote. When “leaners” are included, the race is tied with both Obama and Romney at 48%.

It's a dead heat guys. Don't let the media get you down (my wife is particularly susceptible to that), and show up on election day.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7276 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

Not happening this year that is for sure. Given that it looks like Obama will win it will be interesting to see who starts to pull out as the front runners for 2016 if that is needed. I still have hope but I think America wants to be fooled again.

If we see little to no improvement in this country in the next 4 years with Obama at the wheel if would be interesting. If that is the case which hopefully things improve a lot no matter who wins in November here but if there is little to no improvement with President Obama I can see Jeb Bush make a run at it. Yes I know, crazy a Bush, another one but this is the right man for President if he would have won his first race to be Florida Governor in 1994 he would have been the Candidate in 2000 and this country would be a much different place right now.



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

Romney and Ryan are officially nominated by the convention, there's no turning back now. Only if Romney dies or withdraws himself, Ryan can run and pick another running mate.
I guess the republicans knew all along it would be hard to beat Obama at this race, incumbent presidents won about 75% of the times in the last 100 years. Potential strong candidates didn't want to waste their time and money and will wait til 2016 when they have a more level playing ground.
It's not for nothing that relative weak candidates were nominated in 1972 (McGovern against Nixon), 1984 (Walter Mondale against Reagan), 1996 (Dole against Clinton) and 2004 (Kerry against Bush).

Rubio or Jeb Bush rather wait for 2016 instead of a Kamikaze act replacing Romney, losing in a landslide and not getting a second chance to run.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4789 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
Man, all this negativity is getting me down. Romney is a couple of points behind on most polls, which tend to oversample Democrats, and even the "Likely voter" polls are using participation rates from the 2008 elections, when Obama supporters were more energized than today. A few polls have Romney climbing back on top. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 45% of the vote. When “leaners” are included, the race is tied with both Obama and Romney at 48%.

Rasmussen's poll is one of the least reliable week over week. It fluctuates quite a bit. I still like using the aggregate polls on real clear politics, which does include Rasmussen

Here's another problem for Romney in Virginia, Colorado, and Ryan's home state of Wiscosin

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-romney-favors-the-rich/?hpt=hp_t2

"Wisconsin, 55% of likely voters say a Romney administration would benefit wealthy people. In Virginia, 56% say the same. In Colorado, the number is 54%.

The number of voters in those swing states who think Romney's policies would favor the middle class? Just about 10%.

"



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 3691 times:

Don't let me interrupt the party here, but I just wanted to say "Thank You Mr. President, my 401(k) is up 100% since you took office!"

Keep on truckin', bro!   


User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2311 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

It's Obama's to lose Mitt Romney suffers from an enthusiasm gap


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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4789 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 3685 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 6):
Don't let me interrupt the party here, but I just wanted to say "Thank You Mr. President, my 401(k) is up 100% since you took office!"

Keep on truckin', bro!

Yeah, I still have the graph of mine from 2008. August to December of 2008 was a rough down slope. But sinnce Feb 2x 2009 to now, I am up around 200%, I would imagine i had a much lower base than you did.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7276 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

It is always very hard to beat an incumbent. 6-8 months ago I saw it 55/45 Obama now its more 70/30 Obama. At the same time even after everything that has happened for Romney a CNN national poll, so its not that important but still show something has it 50-45 Obama. That is not too bad and there is plenty of time to close the gap. And that is a CNN poll. It has already come out that most polls are polling more democrats than repulbicans due to the turn out of 2008 election and well lets be honest most polls want Obama to win anyway.


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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 3654 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Thread starter):
He is permanently a few points behind in the polls - now 5%
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
Romney is a couple of points behind on most polls

Polls are smoke and mirrors for the Presidential election when they are nationwide.

The only votes that count are electoral votes, and that takes very detailed sampling in individual states to get a good feel for the trends.

Like other recent contests, this election will come down to a couple key states. The rest of us across the nation are just feel good votes.

No, the Republican Party cannot drop Romney.

1) It may not be legal at this point.
2) It is too late to change ballots in many states. Overseas Military Absentee Ballots are due to be mailed in a few days in several states.
3) Replacing Romey would be a HUGE admission that the Republican Party has failed.


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4789 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 3654 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 9):
At the same time even after everything that has happened for Romney a CNN national poll, so its not that important but still show something has it 50-45 Obama.

They stated in that poll that it was done pre video rlease, so not all the news is built in. However these are polls, and they will move.

Dreadnought's poll(rasmussen) has Romney leading by 1 point today vs 2 yesterday. I expect, based on the trends that tommorrow will be even or an Obama Advantage.

Quoting flymia (Reply 9):
It has already come out that most polls are polling more democrats than repulbicans due to the turn out of 2008 election and well lets be honest most polls want Obama to win anyway.

Not all polls are equal, and there are biases in almost all of them. The leading questions can shape answers beyond. However that is why it is best to get a basket like RealClearPolitics and follow them all.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12938 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4):

Romney and Ryan are officially nominated by the convention, there's no turning back now. Only if Romney dies or withdraws himself, Ryan can run and pick another running mate.

It reminds me of Chris Rock's joke about why there'd never be a white president with a black vice-president.

Quoting comorin (Reply 6):
Thank You Mr. President, my 401(k) is up 100% since you took office!"

Hooray, you and Mitt Romney are two Americans who are better off now then four years ago!



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20335 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 3):
Not happening this year that is for sure. Given that it looks like Obama will win it will be interesting to see who starts to pull out as the front runners for 2016 if that is needed. I still have hope but I think America wants to be fooled again.

Four years is a long time. Four years ago, we'd barely heard of Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan. In 2004, Hillary was the Democrat's favorite for 2008.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 10):
1) It may not be legal at this point.
2) It is too late to change ballots in many states. Overseas Military Absentee Ballots are due to be mailed in a few days in several states.
3) Replacing Romey would be a HUGE admission that the Republican Party has failed.

I agree with all points except (1). I am not sure whether there is much legal oversight into the internal workings of political parties. They are ultimately private organizations. Now, whether it would be INTERNALLY legal is another question entirely.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
It's a dead heat guys.

I really do not think it is. I think that Obama is actually further ahead than the polls suggest. Remember that younger voters tend to not have land lines, but rather cell phones and most of those are on the Do Not Call registry, so actually, the polls may undersample Democratic-leaning covers. The big issue, as you imply, will be turnout. If Obama supporters get complacent and don't show up on election day, they might hand the election to Romney.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
It's a dead heat guys. Don't let the media get you down...

Negative, Ghostrider.

Intrade is a free market and more accurate than polls. Currently Obama is at 67% (chance of being re-elected) and Romney at 33% (chance of being elected). Barring some incredible disaster for the Obama campaign he's going to win.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

If the GOP had actually wanted to win they'd would've supported Ron Paul.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 14):
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
It's a dead heat guys. Don't let the media get you down...

Even if it is a dead heat, it's the electoral college votes that count. Right now Obama has likely to lead at 308 votes of a total of 538, with 75% odds of winning the election. Obama has the lead in the swing states, so there is a good statistical chance of a landslide victory for Obama.


User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 3541 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 10):
Like other recent contests, this election will come down to a couple key states. The rest of us across the nation are just feel good votes.

Bingo - nationwide polls are meaningless. Tell me about where we are in OH, FL, PA, MI - with a few other exceptions, the others are already handed to one candidate or the other by a large margin. Example, here in WA where I live, Obama has a double digit lead - I am sure if you polled voters in KS, Romney would show the same there - so throw those numbers out. Only in "battleground states" are polls relevant in painting a picture of where this election will go. And quite frankly, looking at numbers this far ahead of the election is a fool's errand. Who know what may happen in the debates, in world affairs, here in the US that might radically swing the undecided voters between now and election day?


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 3513 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 16):
Bingo - nationwide polls are meaningless. Tell me about where we are in OH, FL, PA, MI - with a few other exceptions, the others are already handed to one candidate or the other by a large margin.

Obama has leads in all those states, although some are pretty close like OH and FL, PA and MI I think Obama has decent margins. The other states that matter are North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, Iowa, NH, and Wisconsin. The only ones I think Romney has a lead is Colorado, and Virginia, and NC is tied,

Also for anyone who lives in any of these states I hope you all have DVRs because it must be add after add on TV.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
Four years is a long time. Four years ago, we'd barely heard of Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan. In 2004, Hillary was the Democrat's favorite for 2008.

Romney was second in 2008 and the GOP tends to give the second place guy the nomination the next time. He was known then and he was vetted for VP and it is rumored that what was in his taxes hurt him then.



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8951 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 15 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 14):
Barring some incredible disaster for the Obama campaign he's going to win.

The disasters have already happened. Worker participation rates plummeting, hiding true unemployment. More people in the world crying "death to America" than ever before. Debt nearly doubled and no no path to improvement, and so forth. But with most of the media working hard to divert attention and blame, Obama has survived it all so far.

Can you imagine the outcry if McCain were president? All the blame would be at his doorstep (and not wrongfully so), and he'd be lucky to have 20% backing in the polls.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4789 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 15 hours ago) and read 3492 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 18):
The disasters have already happened. Worker participation rates plummeting, hiding true unemployment. More people in the world crying "death to America" than ever before. Debt nearly doubled and no no path to improvement, and so forth. But with most of the media working hard to divert attention and blame, Obama has survived it all so far.

This highlights exactly why the GOP is failing. Couple it with the Romney " I wish I was Latino statement" It's this sense of us vs them and no real connection with what is happening in America or the reason's it is where it is, which is more than a 4 year story.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20335 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 17):
Romney was second in 2008 and the GOP tends to give the second place guy the nomination the next time. He was known then and he was vetted for VP and it is rumored that what was in his taxes hurt him then.

Who was the second-place guy this time? Santorum? Oh yeah, that'll go over brilliantly.

What I'm actually more interested in is what the Democrats will do in 2016. I don't think it will be Biden. I don't think it will be Hillary.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 18):
The disasters have already happened. Worker participation rates plummeting, hiding true unemployment. More people in the world crying "death to America" than ever before. Debt nearly doubled and no no path to improvement, and so forth. But with most of the media working hard to divert attention and blame, Obama has survived it all so far.

Except that's not what's happening. Unemployment is slowly falling. The economy is slowly recovering with economic indicators showing slow recovery. The "media" are mostly run by Conservative concerns, and in spite of the Conservative tendency to label anything --no matter how objective-- that paints Conservatives in a negative light as "liberal bias," what is obvious to a large portion of Americans is that the GOP is actually willfully obstructing any attempt at economic recovery in an attempt to sabotage Obama's presidency.

There is also the fact that the GOP has done plenty of criticism but has made few proposals. They haven't given a proposal for healthcare reform. Their objections to it (especially Romney's) strike a lot of people as hypocritical when the Democrats can put up a video of Mitt Romney himself lauding the individual mandate, for example. When the Democratic President presents Republican-designed legislation and the Republicans call it the most horrible Communist idea ever, Americans start to wonder. When some of the assertions made by the GOP start to imply that half of Americans are deadbeats, Americans get turned off.

So no, it is not the "media" doing it to the GOP. The GOP is doing it to themselves.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 3430 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 15):
Even if it is a dead heat, it's the electoral college votes that count.

And two of them have already stated they're voting for Ron Paul. A third resigned as elector rather than vote for Romney.

Three Ron Paul-Supporting Electors May Not Support Republican Ticket


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
Who was the second-place guy this time? Santorum? Oh yeah, that'll go over brilliantly.

I think we will see Paul Ryan step up as a major party leader and possible candidate. If he doesn't do anything really stupid in the next four years.

But what the heck, I was the guy that predicted Rick Perry would have a lock on the GOP nomination. I knew he was dumb, just not that dumb.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 20):
What I'm actually more interested in is what the Democrats will do in 2016. I don't think it will be Biden. I don't think it will be Hillary.

Hillary will be 69 years old at the time of the 2016 election (que the jokes). That will be too old, especially for a woman.

She had her one good chance to get elected in 2008. Which also makes the birther arguments funny - do they really think Hillary would give up her only chance to be the US President if there was any way she could disqualify Obama?

Biden - heck Dan Quayle probably has a better reputation as VP than Biden. And Quayle is younger than Biden - really - by over 4 years.


User currently offlineqantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5869 posts, RR: 39
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):

First fact in politics. Follow the money...in July Obama raised $75 million and August he raised $115 million, massive increase in anyone's eyes, he beat Romney in August for the first time in 4 months. Dead heat would be dead wrong.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20335 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 12 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 22):
Hillary will be 69 years old at the time of the 2016 election (que the jokes). That will be too old, especially for a woman.

On top that, she has been the Secretary of State, which is a truly grueling job. I saw an interview with her where she did indicate that she would be stepping down as SoS after 2012. I have not heard much about whether this is still her plan and whether a replacement is being groomed.

I think her plan is to retire. The only step up from her job is President and that train has already sailed.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 22):
She had her one good chance to get elected in 2008. Which also makes the birther arguments funny - do they really think Hillary would give up her only chance to be the US President if there was any way she could disqualify Obama?

No no! She's part of the conspiracy! She's doing that to make you THINK he was born in the U.S.!

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 22):
Biden - heck Dan Quayle probably has a better reputation as VP than Biden.

Biden's biggest issue is that he doesn't have an "emergency cutoff" switch on that whole brain-mouth thing. That's a bit of a problem when you're a politician.


25 DeltaMD90 : While I don't think it's quite a tie, Romney is potentially close enough to win (very unlikely, but even the intrade odds of 66%-33% or whatever, a 1
26 MD-90 : And probably sunk!
27 Post contains images EA CO AS : Permanently? Polls don't change, professor? Damn, I guess we might as well not even have the election then - after all, cedarjet has called it, so...
28 Post contains links casinterest : Nah, I don't like the method. They poll 500 people a day over 3 days , and call it a sample of 1500. It is a moving average, but the end result is th
29 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : Two things: 1. Political-related calls are exempt from the Do Not Call registry. 2. What makes you think that the majority of cell-phone owners w/out
30 N1120A : A Ryan/Rubio ticket would be at least as disastrous as the Romney/Ryan ticket. Ryan is WAY too green on foreign policy and Rubio would alienate non-Cu
31 Revelation : Right, but what's the odds that Romney will show up well in a debate? It seems to me he doesn't think well on his feet. I think he'll come off as bei
32 mt99 : Absolutely. However, Bush and Obama did not have the same track record that Romney has. I think that if Romney does perfectly in the debates, that pu
33 zckls04 : I think he could do well in the debates with enough preparation. Remember even Biden performed OK in the debates in '08. Admittedly that was against
34 stasisLAX : As mentioned, the popular vote doesn't count (i.e. Bush versus Gore in 2000 - Al Gore won the popular vote, but the Electoral College is heavily weig
35 rfields5421 : He may have done a good job, however, he is constantly portrayed in the media as a bad joke. Reality doesn't matter - perception is what matters. He
36 N1120A : If by "media" you mean Fox News/Business, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. I guess. Anyway, Biden is ridiculously popular among the groups that he acts as sur
37 zippyjet : But for a President running for re-election this was one of the closest races. Not as close as 2000 but in 2004 Ohio was the state in question. It wa
38 DocLightning : Yes, well, if Mr. Romney has shown us anything this campaign it's that he sure does have a way with words... ...much in the way that Mrs. O'Leary's c
39 rfields5421 : No - I don't waste my time with the 'Fair and Balanced' Fake News and those other fools. I mean CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC. Practically the only time Biden m
40 Post contains links Revelation : Both statements are true. At least Romney now has someone he can send to talk to the AARP on his behalf: Ref: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...
41 Post contains links cedarjet : It's only got much worse since I posted this OP a week or two back - most of you have seen this awful 15 sec clip of Romney obviously feeling awfully
42 N1120A : OK? Biden destroyed Palin under some very difficult constraints. You don't have as successful a career as Biden without being a good politician. "Som
43 Post contains links and images flymia : I was waiting for someone to post this. I guess your hearing is not too great? I clearly hear Romeny, Romeny.... And so did everyone else at the even
44 Post contains links cedarjet : Poor Republicans will say anything to change the facts. Sorry, they're chanting Ryan, Ryan until Romney corrects them. You guess my hearing is not too
45 Post contains images flymia : Democrats never using logic or facts. I was not there. I am just going by what I hear PLUS what the people who were actually there heard including a
46 Post contains links cedarjet : The clip I posted is C-Span. Here it is again. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/3985077 Seriously, do you hear anyone chanting Romney, before the epon
47 Post contains links cedarjet : Btw - turns out I was wrong about the prospects for the Republicans if Ryan was at the top of the ticket. "“47%” Was Bad For Romney; Ryan Has Been
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