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IOS 6: First Impressions?  
User currently offlinegrozzy From Australia, joined Oct 2007, 155 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4934 times:

I've just downloaded the new iOS for my iPod touch, and am wondering what everyone's impressions are.
There's a few local errors I've found with the maps. I am routed along unformed streets. I can also see no use so far for the other main addition, passbook. Everything else seems normal so far.

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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2409 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

The maps are definitely a step back. It seems slow and heavy and I miss street view. I welcome more competition regarding maps services though.
The biggest news is an alarm clock which may say something about Apple.. they are not innovating more.


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4900 times:

It's OK, nothing special. I don't like the maps - I will be downloading Google Maps when it's back on the App Store.

I HATE the blue on the menus though. Yuck.


User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2116 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

Are the issues with the maps in 3D/Satellite view, or are there issues with just the regular (drawn) map view?

I can honestly say I've never used street view on my iphone or ipad and I doubt I'll start using 3D, except on the rare occasion I want to look at a city in 3D.

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 2):
I HATE the blue on the menus though.

Blue menus?


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 3):
Blue menus?

Go onto Settings and the menu has a blue tinge to it. Horrible. Reminds me of a National Health Service hospital.


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3068 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

A couple things. (I have it on 3rd gen. iPad).

Maps is a step down, especially here in Australia, that has no fly over cities, nor turn by turn navigation (but coming). However, I do realize this is version 1, and it will improve quickly, if anything competition for google maps is good.

A couple good small, but needed adjustments, for example, updating and downloading apps does not take you straight to springboard, but rather keeps you on app store. This has irritated me for a long time, and was needed.

Now, the thing that irritates me the most. No passbook for iPad.

I know passbook is better for iPhone, but there are advantages for having it on the iPad, advantages that must be greater than the cost of software developing it for the larger screen.

Even for people with iPhones, adding it to iPad has advantages. For instance, when buying tickets at home, many (including my parents who have iPhones and iPads) would rather use their iPad, and check everything is ok. And also at airport, although the iphone would be better for checking in and going through security, many would use their iPad for boarding, as it is already out in the waiting lounges. Furthermore, while I would be sitting and waiting for my flight (while browsing iPad), it would be good to get the live details (delays, gate changes, etc.) that passbook offer right to the iPad.

Overall, not impressed, some good small changes, but one big negative for me (not a step back, but Apple keeping iPads behind for no real reason). Hopefully Apple realize their mistake, possibly through many requests, and add it in an update or add it to the app store for iPad users to download.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlinemajestic477 From Ghana, joined Sep 2012, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

Am yet see any map application would be as detailed as google maps at least here in Ghana. Given that the standard of how good a map is must not be the maps of developed nations since most of the work has been done. So far google maps is the only detailed maps. Think of finding yourself in a third world country where the maps will be most needed.

User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4769 times:
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The clock is nice. I had previously downloaded a world clock for my "we won't call it n iPad 3" to use at work. The included clock now incorporates all the features I need and has a nice day-specific multi alarm capability.

I don't care for the Apple maps, though it does look a little "cuter" from high altitude perspectives (I expected they'd roll out a product that was at least in the ballpark of Google quality given the amount of media discussion on this move). I'm also not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I'd swear that google earth now runs slower (64GB iPad 3 AT&T), which was noticed even when using wifi.

I've never used Siri, though my friends with iPhones seem to like it. I'll probably get a 5th generation iPhone soon simply because my Samsung Galaxy is starting to get slow and buggy (and might as well benefit from a consistent iCloud repository).

On the whole, my first impressions are that the new OS is far below the hype. I feel like this is what I'd expect from a large Windows service pack more than a whole new OS designation.



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11357 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4754 times:

It's a fine upgrade, but not earth shattering.

The Maps are a HUGE step forward, finally having turn by turn navigation.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 1):
The maps are definitely a step back.

Do you own an iphone?



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27003 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4745 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
It's a fine upgrade, but not earth shattering.

Agree there . Some things I like and some not bothered about but in general quite happy with it . I see LH and UA were first to embrace PB. Got my Apps updated .

An error here in Ireland detected :

Apple gives Dublin a new 'airfield'

Surely not? Minister for Justice Alan Shatter claimed today that pilots could be misled into trying to make an emergency landing on a farm in Dublin because of an error on a new Apple online map tool.

In a statement - which may or may not have been slightly tongue-in-cheek - the Minister said he has notified the tech giant of a mistake in his south Dublin constituency and asked for it to be urgently corrected.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0920/breaking20.html


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2409 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
Do you own an iphone?

No. I own an iPad 3. Great device, although slightly boring OS not optimized for the larger screen size. Why?


User currently offlinemirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4675 times:
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Havent used the phone much in since my update last night.

The map update with verbal turn by turn was useful in our driving home last night. Real time traffic is cool.

Havent perused the other aspects yet. But Siris enhanced capabilites will make my life easier.


Only GLARING con to mee seems to be that the battery life is a LOT worse.

using an iPhone 4s with a full charge at 8AM, it was down to 88% by 9 AM without any apps running.

Ive since changed new settings which I hope will help



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):
The Maps are a HUGE step forward, finally having turn by turn navigation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19659736

It doesn't take an iPhone owner to know that the maps are a step in the wrong direction for Apple - In fact this guy compares both..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19664578


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
It doesn't take an iPhone owner to know that the maps are a step in the wrong direction for Apple - In fact this guy compares both..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology...64578

i think this outlook is oversimplified. For now, the Apple maps are lacking quite a few features of Google's map program.

However there is a very real business reason why the maps were taken over by Apple. and given time and money they will be as good as if not better than Google's. Apple wants the ad revenue from the maps, and who can blame them?


It will just take time use and complaints ot get them up to par.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19725 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4588 times:

Passbook.

Is it supposed to actually do something?


User currently offlineracko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/

User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

CAUSE:

Quoting racko (Reply 15):
http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/

EFFECT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIakZtDmMgo


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):

Eventually eliminate your need for a wallet.
But right now, I find it lacking as well.



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4474 times:

Quoting casinterest (Reply 17):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):

Eventually eliminate your need for a wallet.
But right now, I find it lacking as well.

That will require NFC, which I am positive will appear in the next iteration or next year.

Tugg



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19725 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4461 times:

Quoting casinterest (Reply 17):

Eventually eliminate your need for a wallet.
But right now, I find it lacking as well.

No. It literally does NOTHING except provide me a link to the App Store.


User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3171 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

I loveD the Apple map program for about 20 minutes. It was great for looking at airports.

But the search is not nearly as comprehensive as the google version. So often I get zero results where google would have tons.

Further, I find it to be fairly sluggish (both in wifi as well as cell).



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):

I think the point is, you have to get one of those apps and purchase a coupon, gift card, ticket using those apps and they put the pass in your passbook

Then , you show it to any bar scanner and whallla.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21467 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 12):
It doesn't take an iPhone owner to know that the maps are a step in the wrong direction for Apple

To me the new version still looks a bit "nicer" visually, even if the usability is not up there yet (mostly due to the data and the labeling not being as refined). Mistakes and omissions are noticeable. The satellite images are not as detailed yet as Google's, at least in my region.

There is quite a bit more and more detailed traffic information, which is now also needed a lot more urgently.

There seems to be more user-oriented meta information and less business advertising, but we'll have to see how that will develop further on.

The crux at the moment is that they've stepped from a not overly polished, somewhat stagnating, but fundamentally quite mature version 7 or 8 provided by an increasingly aggressive competitor to a visibly still immature version 1 cooked up in house which is noticeably intended to become more polished and more in line with their own priorities over time, but clearly isn't there yet.

Users don't care for such aspects and it's not their job to care, so Apple will be hammered hard for all perceived (and probably mostly real) shortcomings of their new map infrastructure (which has already begun through the beta phase). They're headed for a medium to severe thunderstorm about that, but it is pretty likely that they're already in heavy weather gear, being aware what will hit them.

Turn-by-turn navigation is likely the sugar sprinkled over it to make the preliminary drawbacks more palatable at this point.

That's the problem when you're switching horses this far into the game: Almost impossible to avoid any fallout, but other than staying beholden to Google forever, what option was there, really? Apple is probably the only commercial player even capable of breaking away from them at full scale and building an entirely new infrastructure from scratch.

That they now have a fully vector-based infrastructure which they can tailor to their own APIs as needed, that all the usage data and other input needed for further refinement will now no longer run to Google but to their own servers, that they can develop their map infrastructure in directions Google has no interest in and of course that they can now develop unique services and infrastructures to gain a competitive edge – all that is extremely important for Apple and at least potentially advantageous for their users, but it won't help any user right now at this point.

I expect that it will be mostly okay until next year via progressive updates particularly to the server data, but also through some iOS bugfix updates; iOS 7 will probably introduce the first unique API extensions.

We'll have to see how this will shake out eventually, but this is clear: Google's maps will lose a lot of relevance and user input (even though they will still exist in separate Google apps in the App Store, but most people likely won't bother to install them and they will not be used by any non-Google apps any more) and Apple's maps will certainly improve a lot over time since they are a key infrastructure for Apple as well and will see sustained investment.

Tectonic shifts like this one are rare in the industry; This will remain interesting to watch.

Otherwise tons of improvements in many areas: A big bag of security fixes (the most important part). The new detailed privacy controls are finally here. I like having Siri on the iPad as well, and Siri's capabilities have finally been expanded here in Germany. The App Store app is much improved (downloads stay in the app, no password needed for updates any more). Many individual refinements all around. Nice.

As with most Apple OS upgrades, it's like an iceberg: Most improvements are not even visible on the surface right away, but will incrementally come to light through apps using the upgraded infrastructure. The just-arrived new map infrastructure is just the most noticeable example here.


User currently offlinemax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1047 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 5):

Maps is a step down, especially here in Australia, that has no fly over cities, nor turn by turn navigation (but coming). However, I do realize this is version 1, and it will improve quickly, if anything competition for google maps is good.

I think people forget how difficult map making can be. I don't think the inaccuracies will be resolved anytime soon...it takes a lot of manual grunt work to collect all the data to make detailed, comprehensive online maps.

I believe Apple wants to resolve this ASAP so they probably will spend lots of $$$ to buy up as much mapping data as possible then integrate it all into their database. While this won't happen overnight, it's still faster than Apple collecting the data by itself.

Competition is a good thing...some of the tech blogs I read today claimed that Google already built a standalone iOS 6 map app which is waiting for Apple's approval.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 13):

However there is a very real business reason why the maps were taken over by Apple. and given time and money they will be as good as if not better than Google's. Apple wants the ad revenue from the maps, and who can blame them?

Time is the key factor...how long will it take to bring their maps back to a similar level of accuracy/usability as iOS 5? Apple has a lot of goodwill so I think the iOS user base will be patient.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4318 times:
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Anyone installed in on the iPhone 4 yet? I am considering doing it, but don't want it to turn into a slow POS after the upgrade because the old processor can't handle it...  


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25 Silver1SWA : I had the same concern but upgraded anyway. No issue whatsoever. Runs the same as iOS5.
26 captaink : I have it on my iPad (3) and my wife´s iPad 2, works perfectly. I even installed it on an old 3GS and it seem to have given it some wings. It is fast
27 Cadet985 : I was hoping to be able to use Siri...which Apple had said would be available for my iPod Touch after downloading iOs 6...yet it's not there. Marc
28 Post contains links Pyrex : Well, Apple does seem to think pilots rely on their phones instead of millions of dollars worth of weather and navigational equipment... http://www.y
29 Aesma : If you mean Apple users and relevance for them, sure. But they're not the majority, so Google maps will stay pretty relevant.
30 D L X : i must be the only one on the planet that thinks otherwise. I keep hearing from others that the app sucks, but when I look at my iPhone now, with the
31 Post contains images EA CO AS : Except it only works on the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. This is one of my major beefs with Apple; their desire for planned obsolescence of existing, perf
32 Klaus : It's off by default – you need to enable it in Settings > General > Siri.
33 Klaus : It's off by default – you need to enable it in Settings > General > Siri. Addendum: Siri is available for the 5th gen iPod Touch only – it
34 cmf : Do you have data to support this?
35 EA CO AS : Google maps were far more accurate and contained far more features than the native Apple ones in iOS6. I, like others, am also noticing a faster-than
36 DocLightning : I have the TomTom GPS app for iPhone. I had the Garmin but didn't like the interface as much. The TomTom app does turn-by-turn directions quite nicel
37 travelavnut : iOS 6: meh... I had the 3, 3GS and now the 4, and that is my last iPhone. The 5 and iOS 6 have greatily dissapointed me, Apple seems to have lost thei
38 Bill142 : Like a lot of tectonic shifts, this ended in catastrophe. Apple certainly could have done a better job of refining this before pushing it out. Epic F
39 Post contains images virginblue4 : Must say I love iOS 6! The new maps app is beautiful and looks a lot nicer than Google Maps. I love the brighter colous used. There are quite a few po
40 CXfirst : There is one problem I see with passbook and using images of bar codes. Firstly, glare is horrible for bar code scanning, and really QR codes are the
41 Post contains images D L X : Really? I've used my phone on bar code readers fairly frequently with no problem. That's a good idea anyway. Pro tip: I think you mean "voila." Actua
42 DocLightning : A Google Maps app could be superior to the Apple Maps app, but Apple doesn't have to let them integrate it into the OS like the Apple app is. So, gre
43 D L X : I'm not sure that's the case. Part of the DOJ antitrust suit against Microsoft was the suspicion that MS held back some of its instruction set (for l
44 GuitrThree : Well here is my thoughts on the maps. I have the iPhone 4. My wife has the 4s. Her's works ok, voice commands, turn by turn, but the 4 is an absoulte
45 D L X : I don't know if it's fair to arrive at "pathetic" by comparing your 1-2 year old iPhone 4 to what's running on newer, more powerful phones. In your o
46 grozzy : One of my issues with maps is that no one has physically checked the data in the field. At least with google their street view vehicles had checked th
47 GuitrThree : Comparing Apple Map to Google Map, I give a VERY slight edge to Google. VERY. I might even call it a draw. But comparing both to TELNAV which is a ve
48 HOONS90 : Upgraded my iPad 3 yesterday and checked out the new map. I was shocked at how inaccurate and minimal the map was for the city of Seoul, Korea, which
49 Post contains links and images Klaus : I found this entertaining and informative: http://counternotions.com/2012/09/21/applemaps/ Warning! Contains irony, common sense and actual facts! One
50 Braniff747SP : All in all, I like it. Panorama pictures are fantastic, the text back instead of pick up is great, and all in all it runs better and has some nice imp
51 D L X : Actually, I have a 4. When you assume... I do not know... but I do know that your iPhone 4 did not do that before the Apple Maps app. So, I'm really
52 Post contains links SR117 : As of late, I had been surprised and pleased at the sheer amount of detail and information contained in Google Maps, particularly for cities like Hon
53 CXfirst : Well, as I understand it, there are two bar code reading technologies, laser scanners and optical scanners. Optical ones have no problems. Only some
54 CXfirst : the example they use is Valencia to Alicante walking. Firstly, google gives results on quickest route, and when you are walking, taking the ferry is
55 AirPacific747 : I can't believe how crappy the Apple maps actually are. I doubt Steve Jobs would have approved such a beta product. Is Apple going down hill now?
56 Post contains images virginblue4 : Thanks for that! Made me smile Excuse me? I just chose two random points (Heathrow and Regent Street) and it had no problem finding me walking direct
57 virginblue4 : Do you know how boring these posts are? Considering Apple at their last results sold more iPads and macs than ever before and now they have just beat
58 AirPacific747 : Good for them, but what does that have to do with the maps app? The Apple brand stands for something that just works. The maps don't just work.
59 airportugal310 : Agreed. Total shit. Google maps is where it's at. Don't care what the Apple fanpeople have to say about it. Funny that today, looking up a brand new
60 virginblue4 : You didn't say that. You asked if Apple are going downhill. I pointed out that they are not. So far, Apple Maps have 'just worked' for me. Yes there
61 OA260 : I love Apple products and have lots of them but Maps is dissapointing . Hopefully its something that will be sorted sooner rather than later. Its my o
62 CXfirst : Sorry, my mistake. But try searching valencia to alicante, as the example had. Wouldn't exactly call that a good result.... -CXfirst
63 HOONS90 : Good for you, but to overlook the world's largest AND the world's second largest city on the maps application suggests either two things: Sloppiness
64 Aesma : I'm guessing (and only guessing) that user input plays an important role in the building of a map. Google has one big advantage, people use maps on t
65 Cadet985 : I was under the impression that I have a 5th Generation (purchased 11/2011), but Siri isn't listed anywhere under settings > general. Marc
66 AirPacific747 : I disagree. I think they are. Not economically (just yet), but by their creativity or lack thereof and their attention to detail.
67 CXfirst : 5th gen is the one that just got announced. So, Siri will not be available for your iPod touch. -CXfirst
68 Post contains links SR117 : I tried it in London and it worked, it even works for me in Mexico, bur for some reason though, it does not work in Japan at all. We're all reasonabl
69 virginblue4 : I agree the whole maps things should have been released at a later date, but Apple are no longer focusing on attention to detail? In iOS 6, they refi
70 Polot : Don't you find it a bit odd to consider things such as wireless charging just "extra things 'to tick off their list' that don't really benefit users"
71 AirPacific747 : But still, they dare a lot more because they are challenging the iPhone. It is like Apple is so afraid to screw up its cash cow, especially when SJ i
72 virginblue4 : No I don't. My point is, it isn't perfected so why bring it out when it's not really going to benefit anyone? Siri actually benefits many people. It'
73 Polot : Of course wireless charging will benefit users. Why do you think we have wireless headsets, mouses, keyboards, video games controllers and so on and
74 virginblue4 : You didn't read my post. Yes wireless charging will be great WHEN it is ready. At the moment, it's extremely slow and inefficient. It's probably stil
75 Polot : It just means that the technology is not fully matured (...hey, just like Apple's Maps!). That hardly means that releasing the wireless charging is j
76 Dano1977 : Upgraded to 6 on my iPad 3 I like Siri but the maps just suck, and YouTube ha gone... To me it feels like 5.2.1 not 6 After 12 hours I had 34 updates
77 FlyKev : I find the update itself is fine - my phone does seem to run faster, the app store does look a lot better and I do find the panorama feature in the ca
78 Klaus : Not really. The topological road information appears to be identical (which is what turn-by-turn navigation needs). What's still missing is the geome
79 garnetpalmetto : Oh Klaus. Funny tha yo note that but then note that Both of which were patently untrue with the Pre and its Touchstone charger. The Pre sat on its Tou
80 SR117 : Maybe it is not your concern but for me and for many people moving in Tokyo it is, road directions are irrelevant for me and taxis usually have GPS n
81 Klaus : That's of course possible to do, but that's not what's about to be offered by Nokia, which is what I was talking about. An angled inductive charger e
82 Klaus : I don't say that nobody had any valid complaints, just that I see that they've set priorities. And the new turn-by-turn feature clearly was one. Havi
83 garnetpalmetto : I may be wrong here (and about to go offline for a bit so I don't have the ability to check right away - if you do, go for it and feel free to provid
84 Post contains images planewasted : I would guess that the coil can be the same as the one used for NFC. I have worked with electronic hardware design and can easily think out a possibl
85 windy95 : Still trying to figure this out... The maps are a huge step forward. Much better that the Google maps...
86 Polot : I think you are in a very small minority with that opinion. While some people might think that the whole maps thing is being overblown, most agree th
87 Klaus : As far as I'm aware that's indeed being tried, but it doesn't solve the problem. That it also forces the use of a plastic case is another drawback.
88 QFA380 : Here was me thinking this thread was about iOS 6!! A few rapid fire comments of mine -Siri seems just as useless as before -I like that now if you tap
89 Post contains links and images Klaus : It's gotten a lot more useful here in Germany – especially the local services integration is a big step forwards. App launching is also nice. I rec
90 Zentraedi : Except that is Shinjuku.... It's clearly written on both maps. And in a large metropolitan city, that information is useless. For Tokyo in particular
91 Silver1SWA : You do know that Apple didn't create Siri, right? Siri was a third party app that Apple purchased and integrated into iOS. I don't consider that to b
92 Post contains images DocLightning : Very well-done!
93 nickh : Try the NAVIGON (Garmin) app for the iPhone/IOS -- then you can forget about the quibbling about which built-in Map App is better. -Nick ($99 at the a
94 Post contains images QFA380 : C'mon you can't talk non-essential but say Passbook is good! Sure it isn't essential to my existence as a human being, but then neither is an iPhone,
95 Klaus : You missed my point. In most cases the routing to a specific exit of a train station is not the crucial issue. So >95% of all navigation cases are
96 Post contains links QFA380 : That is a shame you don't see the potential. If I look in my wallet, I have a total of 10 cards in there, 4 already have NFC chips in them, 4 have ba
97 virginblue4 : Yes, I do realise this. However, it wasn't particularly a major, well known app. Apple purchased Siri and completely integrated it into the entire OS
98 Post contains images Klaus : The problem with NFC is that it is leaking your identity all over the place by its inherent nature without you having any means of taking control you
99 Post contains images D L X : First, there were PLENTY of errors in the Google Maps. When you came across them, they were pretty obvious. I can't tell you how many times I cursed
100 Zentraedi : Sorry, but how in the world does turn by turn navigation between two random points that don't resemble the users' origin and destination count as "&g
101 Klaus : What are you talking about? All the routes I have checked out here in Germany were exactly correct, including their proposed alternates. And that see
102 mad99 : maps = killer app for taxi drivers* * 4x4 taxi only the app has me driving through fields and taking a tour around the zoo just to get home.
103 Acheron : But it just works!(tm)
104 D L X : It's hard to verify that without posting your home address on the internet (which I beg you not to do). But can you give us an example of such a rout
105 TheRedBaron : Maps in my humble is the beta, Apple will take like 2 years to get on par with Google maps. We have other options if the flawed version we have now is
106 Post contains links Klaus : Interesting perspective on Maps by Daniel Eran Dilger: Inside iOS 6: What's wrong with Apple's new Maps
107 Post contains images N776AU : I'd like to upgrade on my ipod touch, but I don't want to deal with a tethered jailbreak. 'Til an untethered one comes out I shall wait patiently
108 Post contains images mad99 : have a look the upper is google and correct. the lower is iphone maps. the start is even better because the iphone doesn't bother using roads!
109 aloges : It looks like it is routing you to a bus stop or train station using public transportation, which happens to be a bus that uses the route shown on yo
110 Post contains images mad99 : both are dictions for a car. Google takes you to the metro (as requested) iphone takes you to a bus stop marked as a train! this is the start. The ma
111 Post contains links Klaus : Tim Cook has published an open letter regarding Apple Maps. Regardless of the actual extent of any troubles, it's the proper response to the public at
112 AirframeAS : I lost the YouTube app on my iPad2 in the latest update. WTF?! And the app is no longer to be found in the Apple Store. You gotta be kidding me!
113 Post contains links Acheron : http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...-youtube-app-from-iphone-and-ipad/
114 Post contains links Klaus : No, it's still there: http://itunes.apple.com/app/youtube/id544007664 Google just hasn't made an iPad version yet and it's not universal, so you won'
115 AirframeAS : Again, I had the app. It was already on my iPad2 when I bought it. There was an app made. See reply 113.
116 Klaus : The ad-free YouTube app Apple had made had been part of the standard iOS set. It is no more. Now you either have to use the browser or use Google's a
117 Silver1SWA : We all had the app. We all lost it with the update because Apple has cut ties with Google, just like with the maps.
118 Post contains images AirframeAS : Understood, but Klaus says its still there......
119 chrisair : So far, I've only updated my iPad 3 (the "new iPad") to iOS6. I actually kind of like it. I don't mind the maps--yes, there are a few errors here and
120 Silver1SWA : You sure? But as Klaus also mentioned, It's not available for the iPad yet.[Edited 2012-09-28 22:21:17]
121 Klaus : You can still use the iPhone version on the iPad as well; It just won't exploit the higher resolution or the added space as long as Google doesn't ma
122 Post contains images AirframeAS : See....... I clicked on the link, he's right though.
123 IMissPiedmont : Mine is still gray.
124 virginblue4 : If you're using an iPad then it it still black. If you're using an iPhone then it's a shade of blue.
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