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Multiple Nationality Passports, How Does It Work?  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

Does it happen if ypur father and mother are from two different countries and you are born in a third country so you can get three different nationalities, then your family migrates to another country which gives you a fourth nationality. When you growup you migrate to yet another country and get a fifth nationality, your marry someone from another place so now you can get a sixth nationality.

How do countries allow this?

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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6617 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

They don't. If you're a citizen of country A, then country A cares about that and not about your citizenship status in countries B, C and D.

Now, a couple of countries (Japan from the top of my head) do care and will strip you of your Japanese nationality if you get another one.



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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Typically it is because your parents are from different nationalities.

It is also common that as an adult you seek citizenship in a second country but keep your original citizenship. If you can do this depends on the two countries as many do not allow it.

Very few countries give you citizenship just from being born on their territory.

It is also rare that you get citizenship just because you move to a different country. Typically you get some kind of work visa and can later apply for citizenship, if you're so inclined. Often there are requirements for you to be in a country a certain period before can apply.

I am not aware of anyone being a citizen of more than two countries but I know several people who have dual citizenship but live and work in a third country.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

There is a member on here who holds five nationalities, he is the inpiration for this discussion, I also know someone one whos child can become the citizen of four countries when he grows up, if those places allow it ofcourse, both his parents hold dual citizenship of different countries.

Also in the example posted in OP, if the couple move to another country and have a child there and he gets that place's passport, does the parent become a national of seven countries then?

[Edited 2012-09-20 20:17:01]

User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7150 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

Every country has different and usually very very complicated immigration laws. So to answer your question. It depends on the country.

For example if someone immigrates to the U.S. and becomes eligible to become a U.S. citizen they must renounce their citizenship to any other country they were a citizen of if they want to become a naturalized U.S. citizen.

[Edited 2012-09-20 21:02:43]

[Edited 2012-09-20 21:05:00]


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25196 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

I hold 3 passports and have right to a 4th.

My parents are of different nationalities and hence I have the legal right hold such citizenship. I was born in a 3rd country, and was naturalized in a 4th one.

Fun ha? Can be quite beneficial when travelling by avoiding visa headaches, and also provide benefits for work and residency. Only downside is need seemingly always be renewing a passport, or national ID cards each year and their cost.

[Edited 2012-09-20 21:28:09]


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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9337 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

It always depends on the individual situation.

Children born to parents of foreign nationality in Germany are not automatically German citizens.

One parent must be German to qualify.

Take Pakistan, I know aPakistani who has a child with a German woman, the child has the German and the Pakistani nationality.

Now, Germany does officially not allow dual citizenship.

If I would pick up a second citizenship I better not tell, otherwise I would have to make a choice.

But there are countries who do not release their citizen from citizenship, like Iran. Or countries who don't care, like Israel, where you can pick up you Israeli passport if qualified and can have as many other citizenships you want. If one of that countries is Germany, they can't do anything about that. The authorities here know it and apply dual standards, legally.

The born Germans with both parents German take the A*card.



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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

I have three nationalities.

French by blood.

Brazilian by birth.

Portuguese by blood, although this one has no emotional or rational meaning for me.

France allows dual nationality, so knows about my Brazilian passport.

Brazil allows dual nationality, so knows about my French passport.

Portugal doesn't give a damn, so knows about my Portuguese ID card, and doesn't need to know about the rest.

As long as the country doesn't care - you're fine having 20 nationalities. Just don't show them the 20 passports when coming back. Show the correct one.



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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Now, Germany does officially not allow dual citizenship.

Not true. Your wife/husband and yourself as a German, married with a person with the citizenship of another EU state, can have two (including the German).

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Children born to parents of foreign nationality in Germany are not automatically German citizens.

They automatically have both citizenships from birth, if the other nationality is from another EU state.

The same applies to every state in the EU. AFAIK, this is an EU law.

[Edited 2012-09-21 06:30:03]

[Edited 2012-09-21 06:30:42]


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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 8):
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Now, Germany does officially not allow dual citizenship.

Not true. Your wife/husband and yourself as a German, married with a person with the citizenship of another EU state, can have two (including the German).

Yes, true to what PanHAM said. You can only hold dual citizenship as a German if the other country doesn't allow the renounciation of that citizenship. There are also a few special cases where dual citizenships are allowed, but that's usually only with difficult countries, diplomats etc.



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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Quoting something (Reply 9):
You can only hold dual citizenship as a German if the other country doesn't allow the renounciation of that citizenship.

Except for EU countries.



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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 10):
Quoting something (Reply 9):
You can only hold dual citizenship as a German if the other country doesn't allow the renounciation of that citizenship.

Except for EU countries.

Well yes, but other than ideological, there's no advantage in that as EU citizens have the right to live, work etc. in any EU country anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_the_European_Union



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3061 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Laws differ everywhere.

My nephew has a Norwegian mother, a Scottish father, and was born in Australia, while both of them held permanent residency (criteria needs only one), and therefore is eligible and holds 3 passports, a Norwegian, a UK and an Australian. And all 3 allow this.

However, as he becomes and adult rules will change.

UK and Australia allow multiple citizenships, so he'll never lose them, unless he gives them up.

He'll have to give up the Norwegian at age 22, unless he has lived in Norway for a minimum of 2 years (or 7 in nordic countries). So at age 22, if he hasn't lived there, he'll have to give it up, or give up UK and Australia (can't lose Norwegian passport if that becomes his only nationality).

If I was to get another citizenship, I would have to give up the Norwegian. However, I do believe that within 10 years, Norway will allow dual citizenship (Sweden and Denmark have recently allowed this), as more and more Norwegians are living abroad, and want dual citizenships.

When that day happens, I will apply for Australian citizenship, but not any time before, I am not willing to give up being Norwegian.

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4220 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 8):

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Now, Germany does officially not allow dual citizenship.

Not true. Your wife/husband and yourself as a German, married with a person with the citizenship of another EU state, can have two (including the German).

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Children born to parents of foreign nationality in Germany are not automatically German citizens.

They automatically have both citizenships from birth, if the other nationality is from another EU state.

The same applies to every state in the EU. AFAIK, this is an EU law.

My mom is now a Canadian citizen but was born in Hungary and supposedly held Hungarian nationality but escaped before the Russians took control of the country. Could I get my dual Hungarian and Canadian citizenship, thus making me a citizen of the EU and not have to wait behind all the yanks at the airport when I travel to Europe?

Although I am usually travelling from Britain and don't have to wait very long except when arriving in the UK.

[Edited 2012-09-21 08:40:59]

[Edited 2012-09-21 08:42:47]


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