Dreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 9136 posts, RR: 24 Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1978 times:
This is not getting the news it deserves:
Quote: BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — Residents of Libya's second-largest city warned on Saturday of a "revolution" to get rid of armed militias and Islamic extremists after protests spurred in part by the killing of the U.S. ambassador left four dead in an unprecedented eruption of public frustration.
In a sign of how weak the country's post-Moammar Gadhafi leadership remains, authorities tried to stem popular anger, pleading that some of the militias are needed to keep the country safe since the police and army are incapable of doing so.
A mass protest Friday against militias against the compounds of several armed groups in Benghazi lasted into early Saturday, as thousands stormed the headquarters of Ansar al-Shariah, an Islamic extremist group suspected in the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate.
They drove out the Ansar gunmen and set fire to cars in the compound — once a major base for Gadhafi's feared security forces — and then moved onto the base of a second Islamist militia, the Rafallah Sahati Brigade. Brigade fighters opened fire to keep the protesters at bay.
The state news agency said four protesters were killed and 70 injured in the overnight violence.
I think this is great news. This shows to all the doubters (and I have to admit that I am one of them), who believe that the Muslim world is separated into homicidal religious nuts and those "moderates" too cowardly to stomp in the Islamofascists in their midst.
In Libya those moderates have taken to the streets, and even stormed the HQ of Ansar al-Shariah. Good for them! I whole-heartedly support you guys.
PS: One more thing. This shows how cowardly the media is. Notice how the writer says that this is somehow a bad thing, that it shows "In a sign of how weak the country's post-Moammar Gadhafi leadership remains, authorities tried to stem popular anger, pleading that some of the militias are needed to keep the country safe since the police and army are incapable of doing so." Yea right - I wonder how popular a US government would be if they said that Neo-nazis, KKK and anarchist militias were "necessary" and so would not be prosecuted for their crimes.
It also confirms the suspicions of many that the Libyan government (such as it is) had no intention of rooting out the Islamists who killed our ambassador.
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 8123 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1958 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Thread starter): I think this is great news. This shows to all the doubters (and I have to admit that I am one of them), who believe that the Muslim world is separated into homicidal religious nuts and those "moderates" too cowardly to stomp in the Islamofascists in their midst.
I was never in doubt but I am very pleased to see this.
These people are very brave... a 40mm cannon would easily reduce these guys to shreds let's be honest.
It really goes to show you that public opinion is stronger than any militia or military (ours included)
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1957 times:
It's a fluid situation, to say the least. The fact is some of the militias are aligned with US interests and if they aren't were at least pro-US to the extent that they assisted with the overthrow of however-you-spell-him. There are others that are comprised of extremist elements capable of things like we saw two weeks ago. The claim by the government, whatever their real motivations are, is true on the face of it. Even if they wanted to disband these militias, a. the militias in many cases will not cooperate with the government and b. they are armed and in many cases better trained than the fledgling state police. It would almost seem the 1960s/70s CIA tactics of pitting one group against another and arming them as necessary might in fact be the only way of rooting out the ones nobody (including everyday Libyans) seem to want around.
On this same topic, John McCain gave a rather entertaining smackdown to Sean Hannity on the topic when the latter was making idiotic remarks about Libya:
zkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1783 times:
Very good news IMO. Very brave of these people to stand up to those who want to oppress them, considering that extremists are often willing to kill for their cause and moderates generally aren't.
Al-Jazeera is reporting that several militas are disbanding already and that the Libyan Army is raiding the headquarters of various Militias. Lets hope this continues. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/09/2012923221126439787.html.