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Ahmadinejad Arrives In NYC...  
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9148 times:

Iranian President is in NYC to speak at the UN. Do any of the JFK area people know what airplane brought him into JFK? B-707? B-747SP?

60 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7226 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8995 times:

I'm assuming it's the 74SP.

As much as we westerners dislike the guy, we love the planes he flies in   



One of the FB admins for PHX Spotters. "Zach the Expat!"
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8580 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
I'm assuming it's the 74SP.

747SP at Damascus in photo below from an Iranian news source. It says he stopped in Damascus and Algiers en route to New York.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/143030.html


User currently offlineIR800 From Iran, joined May 2009, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8543 times:

EP-IAD arrived at JFK in early morning.



[Edited 2012-09-23 12:55:43]

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8215 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
As much as we westerners dislike the guy, we love the planes he flies in

Yeah, I was hoping for the B-707, but his B-747SP is cool too.

Quoting IR800 (Reply 3):
EP-IAD arrived at JFK in early morning.

Thanks guys.


User currently offlinetymnbalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8005 times:

I remember the good ol' days when IR was a regular visitor to the Pan Am WorldPort at JFK!


Dewmanair...begins with Dew
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7226 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7886 times:

Quoting tymnbalewne (Reply 5):
I remember the good ol' days when IR was a regular visitor to the Pan Am WorldPort at JFK!

I'll be straight with all of you, a few of my Iranian friends say that the only people in that country who hate America are those in government, and the 5% of the country who agree with them.

This one girl in particular, an atheist, says she and her friends love this country so much that they have american music smuggled into the country regularly (after they purchase it from FYE lol)



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User currently offlinehaynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7689 times:

I'm wondering how he refuels his aircraft once arriving in NYC since we can't do business with Iran? Same with landing fees. I suppose there is an exception for this type of activity?


"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts."
User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6534 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7633 times:

Well, it's not business, it's diplomacy.


New Technology is the name we give to stuff that doesn't work yet. Douglas Adams
User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7567 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
747SP at Damascus in photo below from an Iranian news source. It says he stopped in Damascus and Algiers en route to New York.

Actually, the plane flew in from Gran Canaria.

20:00 20:09 02:35T LU IRA805 B74S GCLP KJFK EP-IAD Iran Air

Along with this sexy bird

08:30 08:40 15:42T LF LMG1 B737 GCLP KJFK ZS-RSA South Africa Air Force

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
I'll be straight with all of you, a few of my Iranian friends say that the only people in that country who hate America are those in government, and the 5% of the country who agree with them.

This one girl in particular, an atheist, says she and her friends love this country so much that they have american music smuggled into the country regularly

The fact that you use the words ''hate'' and ''love'' say a lot about your view of the world. America is the center of the universe, the best country on earth, and everybody wants to be like it, everybody wants to go there and thinks of nothing else all day, except for those jealous, evil people who do the opposite and concern themselves with nothing else but hating on America.

(Un)fortunately, reality doesn't come in black and white.

[Edited 2012-09-23 16:07:22]


..sick of it. -K. Pilkington.
User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7473 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7375 times:

Is this a straight comment, or is there a smiley missing?.

User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7265 times:

Does anyone have any info as to the reason for the visit, scheduled UN meeting or not?

Quoting something (Reply 9):
The fact that you use the words ''hate'' and ''love'' say a lot about your view of the world. America is the center of the universe, the best country on earth, and everybody wants to be like it, everybody wants to go there and thinks of nothing else all day, except for those jealous, evil people who do the opposite and concern themselves with nothing else but hating on America.

(Un)fortunately, reality doesn't come in black and white.

Really!!

I'm not sure why you commented that way? But its obvious what "your view of the world" is.

Incidently... Reality is black and white! Its government and people who Grey it...



harder than woodpecker lips...
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7226 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6961 times:

Quoting something (Reply 9):

Now you're just splitting hairs here.

Quoting mffoda (Reply 11):
Does anyone have any info as to the reason for the visit, scheduled UN meeting or not?

Yeah UN meeting.



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User currently offlineidlewildchild From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6885 times:

It's the annual opening of the United Nations and the more interesting part of what's going to happen 20 blocks north of me is the Clinton Initiative which will be having speaking engagements by the new leaders of Egypt and Libya. I think that's really what people will probably more interested in than hearing Armadinnerjacket ramble on with his documented paranoia. And, for the record, I'm very aware America is not the center of the universe, as I'm the son of a British soldier (WWII) I'm also mindful however, that the US did save the free world 60 years ago.

So a little balance is good. And I'm glad the B747SP is at JFK and of course it will be refueled as this is purely diplomatic and appropriate. Trust and believe that us NY'ers treat everyone equally, even those we may disagree with! Hell, I'd even buy Governor Romney a bagel and schmear.


User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6653 times:

Quoting idlewildchild (Reply 13):

Thanks, idlewildchild... Is that bagel and schmear offer good for Armadinnerjacket as well? 



harder than woodpecker lips...
User currently offlinemuzyck From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6015 times:
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Wow, I thought I heard communication with an Iran Air flight on LiveATC.net in the wee hours last night on ROBER (125.7) Couldn't find it on FlightAware. Funny that shortly after the flight came through, ATC needed to go to a backup frequency because of interference ("mariachi music" per some of the feedback from the transmissions I heard).

[Edited 2012-09-23 17:43:25]

[Edited 2012-09-23 17:50:56]

What I heard was earlier than I thought. September 23 @ 03:05 GMT. Iran 805.


[Edited 2012-09-23 18:38:47]

[Edited 2012-09-23 18:39:34]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21529 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5666 times:

Quoting haynflyer (Reply 7):
I suppose there is an exception for this type of activity?

Diplomatic missions are protected. Every nation has the right to come to the UN General Assembly session, so they have to be treated with the appropriate courtesy.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineSkyguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5061 times:

He's here to attend the UN General Assembly this week, and interestingly he also gets a full U.S. Department of State, Diplomatic Security Service protection detail who escort him everywhere.


"Those who talk, do not know, and those who know, do not talk."
User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4320 times:

Is this the first appearance of IR in the US since the 70s?


At Eastern, we earn our wings every day!
User currently offline93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

Id sleep better at night if Iran was a smoldering pile of..... Nice airplane, to bad the puke they carried on it is a douche.

User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

No he comes every year....

User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9170 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Quoting idlewildchild (Reply 13):
Trust and believe that us NY'ers treat everyone equally,

That's right. It is always a hearty "Welcome to New York. Now, get Out!"

Quoting Skyguy (Reply 17):
Diplomatic Security Service protection detail who escort him everywhere.

That's more to make sure that they roam only in the blocks the Sate Department allowed them to roam, basically between the Hotel , their UN mission and the UN.

Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 19):
Id sleep better at night if Iran was a smoldering pile of.

as was mentioned here before, Iranians are wonderful people, except those you want to target and most of them would survive in a bunker.



E's passed on! That parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7832 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 21):
Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 19):
Id sleep better at night if Iran was a smoldering pile of.

as was mentioned here before, Iranians are wonderful people, except those you want to target and most of them would survive in a bunker.

Very true. I've talked to several Iranians, they were all cool people that did not like their government (and they said that's the general consensus.) But really, you'd be surprised at how educated and "western" they are.



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9170 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3154 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 22):
But really, you'd be surprised at how educated and "western" they are.

No, I won't be surprised at all. The first person i met from that region was the resident engineer of Iran Air at LH maintenance at HAM back in 1967. Very friendly and educated person indeed.



E's passed on! That parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7832 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 23):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 22):
But really, you'd be surprised at how educated and "western" they are.

No, I won't be surprised at all.

I know you wouldn't, I was referring to the people that think Iranians lived in mud huts with bombs attached to them  

In fact, they are one of the most secular Muslims I've talked with. Just like Americans that complain that their government doesn't necessarily represent who they are, the Iranian government is a far cry from average Iranians



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3868 posts, RR: 14
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

New York Post tried to give him a welcome basket:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/s..._to_nyc_jad_qHQjgIqgYXpZUYQXS1TEjJ


User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2769 posts, RR: 8
Reply 26, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 11):
Does anyone have any info as to the reason for the visit, scheduled UN meeting or not?

You haven't heard ?

The opening of the general Assembly

Everyone who is anyone is there !

Read this article.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ion=news/national_world&id=8821446

Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 19):
Id sleep better at night if Iran was a smoldering pile of..... Nice airplane, to bad the puke they carried on it is a douche.

This comment should be Deleted!

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 22):
But really, you'd be surprised at how educated and "western" they are.

I think that's a very true statement, especially for our friends in the US.

Quoting us330 (Reply 25):
New York Post tried to give him a welcome basket:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/s...1TEjJ

What a childish exercise that stunt was, Pathetic !



Flown 905,468 kms or 2.356 times to the moon, 1296 hrs, Longest flight 10,524 kms
User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 29
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3153 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 26):
What a childish exercise that stunt was, Pathetic !

I'll say.......

filler
filler
filler

Any thoughts on his comments at the UN?

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2769 posts, RR: 8
Reply 28, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3113 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 27):
Any thoughts on his comments at the UN?

None other than the usual speech you'd expect from him at this stage.

His comments regarding Israel, are, IMHO nothing more than retaliation rhetoric against Bibi's threats to bomb Iran.

Is it any wonder he's all stirred up.

He looks at Israel, as a new entity in the ME region which, in his country's opinion, should not be there.

Quote from SMH

"Iran has been around for the last seven, 10 thousand years. They (the Israelis) have been occupying those territories for the last 60 to 70 years, with the support and force of the Westerners. They have no roots there in history," he said, referring to the founding of the modern state of Israel in 1948.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/defiant-...-20120925-26hyd.html#ixzz27Rvu76H8



Flown 905,468 kms or 2.356 times to the moon, 1296 hrs, Longest flight 10,524 kms
User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 29
Reply 29, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Well, thanks for explaining his position. I almost feel bad for the poor guy.

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 30, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 14):
Is that bagel and schmear offer good for Armadinnerjacket as well?

No!...747 SP or not...Give him a NY pretzel and point his SP nose East. I don't for a New York minute believe that "man"   best represents the sentiments of the people he rules over. He can't even shave or don a Tie. He will stand at the podium and chastise America while half the room stands up a walks out in a faux show defiance. The UN welcomes "Peace Loving Nations...how does Iran play into that equation?...Just because he flies a Boeing?


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 31, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2995 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
I'm assuming it's the 74SP.
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/143030.html

I flew on many SPs but this one I find is really special. A real treasure of an airplane. I really want to go flying on it before it is too late. It may get turned into dust any time soon.

My friend Ali in Tehran sent me pictures of the inside including the flight deck form one of his latest flights to BKK. He is a geek. I guess I would turn into one if I went flying on board the machine.

I am sure Mr President was treated to Homa Class which he deserves as he is the President of that wonderous nation. He will be losing his job in May so let him enjoy the few luxuries he gets. He is a rather austere man.

This is his latest CNN interview.

Iran's president ranges far in interview: talks Israel, slams homosexuality

Exerpt:

Jews

When asked how he would feel if one of his children dated a Jew, Ahmadinejad replied, "I would have to see who that Jewish man or woman would be. I see love amongst people as completely acceptable. There are many Jews living in Iran with whom we are very close. There are ... some Muslims that marry into Jewish families or marry Christians."

"I -- we have no such problems," he added.

"Of course, I think none of us should represent the whole population of the United States, but we believe that color, religion, native tongue, ethnic background shouldn't create differences or distances between people, nor should it be the sole reason to bring people closer together. It has always been like this."

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/24/wo.../meast/iran-ahmadinejad-interview/

I want to hear his speech at the U.N. tomorrow.


 



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 32, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

I am too late to edit my previous post.

For those who want to follow the United Nations General Assembly live you can follow all the sessions and speeches on this link:

http://webtv.un.org/
click on "Live Now"

I find it really interesting listening to speeches from all world leaders of all nations bigger and smaller. Right now it is the President of Honduras. Previously there was Lithuania, France, Georgia and Indonesian Presidents. Most are delivering their speeches in English and a few in their native languages, concerns can be quite different for each speaking world leader. This is where you discover all the Presidents you never heard of or never see before.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7832 posts, RR: 52
Reply 33, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 29):
Well, thanks for explaining his position. I almost feel bad for the poor guy.

I don't feel sorry for him and I think he's very extreme, but it's just plain dumb to send him a "welcome basket" and honestly, I believe we are fueling his paranoia with our talks. I don't think anyone believes he's gonna stop making a bomb, no matter what threats we make. In fact, if I was getting all these invasion threats, you'd better believe I'd want an anti-invasion card (a nuclear weapon)



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 30):

No!...747 SP or not...Give him a NY pretzel and point his SP nose East. I don't for a New York minute believe that "man"   best represents the sentiments of the people he rules over. He can't even shave or don a Tie. He will stand at the podium and chastise America while half the room stands up a walks out in a faux show defiance. The UN welcomes "Peace Loving Nations...how does Iran play into that equation?...Just because he flies a Boeing?

he isnt the real guy in charge..he is just the figurehead for the mullahs  .


User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 35, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 34):

Thanks...I'm aware of that but all the more reason why he should get a ride in Ca$h Cab back to JFK and hop on his SP unless he needs to detour to the Boneyards for spare parts. I have no problem with any representative regardless of their alliance to the UN or not as long as something constructive results. Just doesn't appear to be the case with him...he just likes to come here and thumb his nose at us partially on the US taxpayers nut. Yawn!...did anyone walk out on him today?


User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2038 posts, RR: 6
Reply 36, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2772 times:

I don't know why people pay attention to this troll. I really don't care what plane he flew in on, which luxurious hotel he gets to stay at, or the crock of BS he's trying to feed us this time around. All I see is a puppet of a corrupt theocracy, who spews the same old shit time and time again. If we, the international community, have any respect for the Iranian people, Jews, Christians, and anybody else that is persecuted by the Iranian government, we should take this diplomatic opportunity to collectively and publicly make the current Iranian regime aware that we see everything and intend to hold them to account. The UN is a forum of collective dialogue after all, not a 3 ring circus for the world's worst human rights abusers.


No matter how random things may appear, there's always a plan.
User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 29
Reply 37, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2753 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 33):

I don't feel sorry for him and I think he's very extreme, but it's just plain dumb to send him a "welcome basket"

I was being sarcastic, and I agree the basket thing was just stupid.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 33):
I don't think anyone believes he's gonna stop making a bomb, no matter what threats we make. In fact, if I was getting all these invasion threats, you'd better believe I'd want an anti-invasion card (a nuclear weapon)

He's getting the invasion threats BECAUSE he's making a bomb (allegedly).

Maybe this is one of those "which came first, the nuke or the threat" things, but I guess I'm comfortable calling this one as Iran's issue first and foremost.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 36):
I don't know why people pay attention to this troll. I really don't care what plane he flew in on, which luxurious hotel he gets to stay at, or the crock of BS he's trying to feed us this time around. All I see is a puppet of a corrupt theocracy, who spews the same old shit time and time again. If we, the international community, have any respect for the Iranian people, Jews, Christians, and anybody else that is persecuted by the Iranian government, we should take this diplomatic opportunity to collectively and publicly make the current Iranian regime aware that we see everything and intend to hold them to account. The UN is a forum of collective dialogue after all, not a 3 ring circus for the world's worst human rights abusers.

1. Plenty of people agree with him.
2. Plenty of people like a useful idiot - a surrogate who can say what they are feeling about the US and Israel.
3. Go to 1.

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 37):
1. Plenty of people agree with him.

who agrees with him, other than the extremists??


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 39, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

This is about the United Nations General Assembly so may I post today's program:
I am following the Presidents and Monarchs interventions.

The President of Zambia is now speaking. Luxembourg, the Ukraine and Ghana are coming next and then Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The new Egyptian President Dr Morsy and PM David Cameron's speeches will also be very interesting to hear, also the leaders ofJapan and Italy..


Morning Session

Yemen
H.E. Mr. Abdrabuh Mansour Hadi Mansour
President
Liberia
H.E. Ms. Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf
President
Zambia
H.E. Mr. Michael Chilufya Sata
President
Luxembourg
H.R. Henri of Luxembourg
Grand Duke
Ukraine
H.E. Mr. Viktor Yanukovych
President
Ghana
H.E. Mr. John Dramani Mahama
President
Iran (Islamic Republic of)
H.E. Mr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
President
Kenya
H.E. Mr. Mwai Kibaki
President
Poland
H.E. Mr. Bronisław Komorowski
President
Egypt
H.E. Mr. Mohamed Morsy
President
Mexico
H.E. Mr. Felipe Calderón Hinojosa
President
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (The)
H.E. Mr. David Cameron
Prime Minister
Japan
H.E. Mr. Yoshihiko Noda
Prime Minister
European Council
H.E. Mr. Herman Van Rompuy
President
Kuwait
H.H. Sheikh Jaber Al Mubarak Al Hamad Al Sabah
Prime Minister
Italy
H.E. Mr. Mario Monti
Prime Minister
Australia
H.E. Ms. Julia Gillard
Prime Minister


Afternoon Session

Colombia
H.E. Mr. Juan Manuel Santos Calderón
President
Swaziland
H.M. King Mswati III
Head of State
Guatemala
H.E. Mr. Otto Fernando Pérez Molina
President
Madagascar
H.E. Mr. Andry Nirina Rajoelina
President of the Transition of the Republic
Republic of Moldova (The)
H.E. Mr. Nicolae Timofti
President
Estonia
H.E. Mr. Toomas Hendrik Ilves
President
Malawi
H.E. Mrs. Joyce Hilda Mtila Banda
President
Kiribati
H.E. Mr. Anote Tong
President
Zimbabwe
H.E. Mr. Robert Mugabe
President
Haiti
H.E. Mr. Michel Joseph Martelly
President
Latvia
H.E. Mr. Andris Bērziņš
President
Togo
H.E. Mr. Faure Essozimna Gnassingbé
President
Bolivia (Plurinational State of)
H.E. Mr. Evo Morales Ayma
Constitutional President
Gambia (The)
H.E. Mr. Isatou Njie-Saidy
Vice-President
Belgium
H.E. mr. Elio Di Rupo
Prime Minister
Mali
H.E. Cheick Modibo Diarra
Prime Minister

http://gadebate.un.org/



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1830 posts, RR: 10
Reply 40, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 35):
did anyone walk out on him today?

There weren't too many walkouts. Ahmadinejad went WAY over his allotted time though.

Overall it was a typical Ahmadinejad speech. He made some decent points near the beginning and near the end, but the bulk was all the usual hypocritical crap.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 39):
Ghana are coming next

I was very impressed by the President of Ghana's speech. I would have given a standing ovation if I were there.



Flying refined.
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 41, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

Mohamed Morsy will be most interesting to hear. I wonder what he will come up with.

Then we will have the E.U. technocrats trio, Van Rompuy, Cameron and Monti. Di Rupo will come later tonight. He would fill in for the E.U. technocrats Quartet.

 

Looking at the Polish President, is this man the brother of the President who was killed in the airplane crash? I can't figure this one out.

 

Talking about goiing over their allotted time, I think Argentine President Cristina Kirchner beat them all by far and she talked without notes.... She kept talking, talking, talking, like she would fill in the whole session!!

[Edited 2012-09-26 09:05:45]


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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 42, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Just a thought and an unrealistic one at that, but wouldn't it be a positive move next General Assembly to hold it at the "International Space Station"...perhaps the perspective of Earth might be contributory to profound change of heart and just for a few generations...everyone would chill...Just dreaming...   

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 43, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 43):
wouldn't it be a positive move next General Assembly to hold it at the "International Space Station"...

I am all for it but they would have to build one 10 times larger and how would you ferry all these leaders up there by Soyuz and back and who would pay for it? Just imagine the humongous cost!!!!

    

The Russian Space Agency would make heaps of profits from your idea!

  



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2038 posts, RR: 6
Reply 44, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 37):
1. Plenty of people agree with him.

Sure, the UN is chock full of the world's worst human rights abusers, holocaust deniers, dictators, and jihadists. But I geared that post toward those in the Western world.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 37):
2. Plenty of people like a useful idiot - a surrogate who can say what they are feeling about the US and Israel.

Spineless cowards with no balls to face the music, like those mentioned above.



No matter how random things may appear, there's always a plan.
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 45, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Israel Prime Minister is heading to the UN to deliver his response to Iranian President Ahmadinejad's speech.

Netanyahu condemns those who stayed in hall to hear Iranian president; rebuffed by Obama, Israeli leader will meet Clinton, Ban, Ashton on whirlwind trip

Netanyahu said his own speech on Thursday would constitute “our response,” and also pledged to “use every possible means” to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

Netanyahu’s speech, which aides said would contain “significant” content, might be tweaked until the last minute, officials told The Times of Israel. Netanyahu will be speaking shortly after Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas addresses the gathering.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanya...ads-to-un-to-deliver-his-response/

Let's see if if he says Iran should be wiped off the map.

   Wow!



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User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1220 posts, RR: 3
Reply 46, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Yea yea, as long as Israel has a nuclear weapon they have no right to prevent Iran from having one.


"A rational army would run away"
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 47, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

General Assembly OF THE UNITED NATIONS
General Debate of the 67th Session

Today's program. Mr Netanyahu will be last to speak in the morning session.
Could be 1.00 PM local time when he starts speaking. Some are taking longer than others. It seems the President of Mexico made the longest speech for now.


27 September 2012
Morning Session

Slovenia
H.E. Mr. Janez Janša
Prime Minister
Palestine
H.E. Mr. Mahmoud Abbas
President, Palestinian Authority
Jamaica
H.E. Ms. Portia Simpson Miller
Prime Minister
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
H.E. Mr. Gjorge Ivanov
President
Brunei Darussalam
H.R.H Prince Haji Al-Muhtadee Billah
Crown Prince
Myanmar
H.E. Mr. Thein Sein
President
Guyana
H.E. Mr. Donald Rabindranauth Ramotar
President
Comoros (The)
H.E. Mr. Ikililou Dhoinine
President
Tunisia
H.E. Mr. Moncef Marzouki
President
Equatorial Guinea
H.E Mr. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo
President
Mongolia
H.E. Mr. Elbegdorj Tsakhia
President
Cape Verde
H.E. Mr. Jorge Carlos De Almeida Fonseca
President
Bosnia and Herzegovina
H.E. Mr. Bakir Izetbegović
Chairman
Lesotho
H.E. Mr. Thomas Motsoahae Thabane
Prime Minister
Israel
H.E. Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu
Prime Minister

Afternoon Session

Greece
H.E. To be confirmed
China
H.E. To be confirmed
Bahrain
H.E. To be confirmed
Norway
H.E. To be confirmed
Guinea
H.E. To be confirmed
Peru
H.E. To be confirmed
Seychelles
H.E. Mr. Danny Faure
Vice-President
Burundi
H.E. Mr. Thérence Sinunguruza
Vice-President
Libya
H.E. Mr. Mohamed Yousef El-Magariaf
President
South Sudan (The Republic of)
H.E. Mr. Salva Kiir
President
Turkmenistan
H.E. Mr. Rashid Meredov
Deputy Prime Minister
Somalia
H.E. Mr. Mohamed Ali
Prime Minister
Albania
H.E. Mr. Bujar Nishani
President
Kyrgyzstan
H.E. Mr. Asylbek Jeenbekov
Parliament
Paraguay
H.E. Mr. Luis Federico Franco Gómez
President
Solomon Islands
H.E. Mr. Gordon Darcy Lilo
Prime Minister
Thailand
H.E. Mr. Yingluck Shinawatra
Prime Minister
Maldives
H.E. Mr. Mohamed Waheed
President
Bangladesh
H.E. MS, Sheikh Hasina
Prime Minister
Micronesia (Federated States of)
H.E. MR. Emanuel Mori
President
Lebanon
H.E. MR. Najib Mikati
President of the Council
Antigua and Barbuda
H.E. MR. Winston Baldwin Spencer
Prime Minister
Iraq
H.E. MR. Khudayr al-Khuzai
Vice-President



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 48, posted (1 year 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

The UN does not represent human population and is not democratic with veto powers to some nations decided over 70yrs ago....


Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 49, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 48):
The UN does not represent human population and is not democratic with veto powers to some nations decided over 70yrs ago....

This is true.

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 38):
who agrees with him, other than the extremists??

I find Morsi is much more extreme than Dr. A. Morsi is here to stay for a number of years while Dr. A. will be gone come May 2013 and back to his old Professoral job. Israel should worry more about their next door neighbour Egypt as Morsi also wants to have nuclear bombs.



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User currently onlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 29
Reply 50, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 49):
Israel should worry more about their next door neighbour Egypt as Morsi also wants to have nuclear bombs.

Israel should worry about all their neighbors - and then some. After reading a few of these threads of late, I'm hard pressed to find any optimistic future for Israel or the region. Short of complete capitulation, what compromise appears to be on the horizon that all will agree to? How do you get an aggressive and defensive Israel to settle down when you have elected officials calling for their distruction? Acquiring Nukes?

Sorry, but Egypt does belong on their radar - but no more or less than any one of a number of countries.

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 51, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 50):
Israel should worry about all their neighbors - and then some.

Israel without Benjamin Netanyahu would be a huge improvement. I hope he will lose the next election and will not be Prime Minister again. The situation would not be so tense with a less hawkish and less conservative leader. Others would not lookat Israel so negatively if not because of him. He is only making things worse.

I hope the Israeli leaders will think twice and not attack Iran. This "red line" makes no sense. Iran is not trying to build a bomb. They want civilian nuclear energy. If they wanted nuclear weapons they may very well buy them from Russia or China or Pakistan.

Also I hope Tzipi Livni and Kadima will win in the next election and she will become the next Prime Minister. It will be "good riddance Netanyahu".

As for Iranian President A. he is the only president I have heard of that does not receive a salary for being president.
He lives in a small home, drives a crappy car, dresses simple, sleeps on the floor and grows his own food.

What You May Not Know about President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyWul35JnjY

 

[Edited 2012-09-28 04:28:19]


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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 52, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 44):
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 51):
As for Iranian President A. he is the only president I have heard of that does not receive a salary for being president.
He lives in a small home, drives a crappy car, dresses simple, sleeps on the floor and grows his own food.



I am sure that is true right up there with "civilian nuclear energy",



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 53, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

Horrifying graphic video of Ahmadinejad savagely abusing Jews

The video can be found here:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/horrify...nian-leader-savagely-abusing-jews/

I don't think we'll ever see video like that on "fair and balanced" FOX News.


 Wow!



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 54, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 51):
I hope the Israeli leaders will think twice and not attack Iran. This "red line" makes no sense. Iran is not trying to build a bomb. They want civilian nuclear energy. If they wanted nuclear weapons they may very well buy them from Russia or China or Pakistan.

The treatment of Jews says other wise. There is none so blind as those who will not see.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1220 posts, RR: 3
Reply 55, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 54):
The treatment of Jews says other wise. There is none so blind as those who will not see.

If Jews are treated so badly in Iran then why I haven't seen them fleeing from Iran to Israel or some other non Muslim countries?



"A rational army would run away"
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7832 posts, RR: 52
Reply 56, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 51):
They want civilian nuclear energy.

As much as I'm against intervention, I still think that it's BS. They want a bomb as a bargaining chip and to throw their weight around, and as an anti-invasion card



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1220 posts, RR: 3
Reply 57, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 56):
As much as I'm against intervention, I still think that it's BS. They want a bomb as a bargaining chip and to throw their weight around, and as an anti-invasion card

Yeah and what's so bad about that? As long as Israel has a nuclear weapon I see no reason why Iran shouldn't have one. It's called balance of terror.



"A rational army would run away"
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7832 posts, RR: 52
Reply 58, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

Quoting pvjin (Reply 57):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 56):
As much as I'm against intervention, I still think that it's BS. They want a bomb as a bargaining chip and to throw their weight around, and as an anti-invasion card

Yeah and what's so bad about that? As long as Israel has a nuclear weapon I see no reason why Iran shouldn't have one. It's called balance of terror.

I'd rather as few countries as possible have nukes. But I'm not in the invade Iran boat. I was just stating that I do not believe they want nuclear power only



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 59, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):

We in the USA have great bio-hazzard kits and can decontaminate anything! I 'd like to put this criminal demogogue facist on a grungy Greyhound bus and send him on a one way trip to Honey Boo Boo's neighborhood/trailerpark. Or, let him get lost on a NYC subway on a one way junket to Bed Sty, South Bronx or better yet ship his ass across the river to Newark.



I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9170 posts, RR: 29
Reply 60, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 51):
As for Iranian President A. he is the only president I have heard of that does not receive a salary for being president.
He lives in a small home, drives a crappy car, dresses simple, sleeps on the floor and grows his own food.

After wiping off my tears (of laughing) I can see trhe screen and find the keys again.

I have to agree, he dresses simple and grows his own beard. You forgot to mention that he flies a crappy aircraft as well, a 747SP is really nothing to brag about these days. His wifes shador should be all grey now from the many washings, or doesn't she wash it? Could be, a bit smelly but when you live in a crappy home, who cares.

Too bad Mr. A is not a catholic, he would be a candidate for immediate cannonization,. Santo Subito.

.
BTW - I love the double meaning "cannonisation" can have, wasn'teven intended....  



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