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One Day In Oslo On The Cheap  
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2947 times:
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Hi all.

Going to have about eleven hours to burn in Oslo one day next week, between flying in and taking the train up north. I want to try and pass the time without spending much but also without dying of boredom. Can anyone suggest anything much that's good for free/cheap?

Thanks in advance for the replies.


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User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1204 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2928 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Can anyone suggest anything much that's good for free/cheap?



Scooter01



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2927 times:
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Quoting Scooter01 (Reply 1):
Scooter01

Thanks, I know. I've already been once. Nonetheless, I can't believe there's nothing to do that won't bankrupt a person.



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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3005 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

There's an open air folk museum on a peninsula across the bay. The boat there is not expensive (for Norway!) But the museum costs 100NOK. It's called Bygdøy. There are other museums there too, and some waterside parks to walk around.
Other than that, take a metro to the forest with the ski jump and do a hike...

signol



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2901 times:
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Quoting signol (Reply 3):
Other than that, take a metro to the forest with the ski jump and do a hike...

That's the kind of thrifty suggestion I'm after.   



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User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1204 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2890 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Reply 4):
That's the kind of thrifty suggestion I'm after

You mean seeing something like this?

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Since I've just retired, I'll be happy to show you around a bit...

..or since you'll probably arrive at OSL, what about doing some spotting..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56123975@N05/7865086014/


Scooter01

[Edited 2012-09-24 16:48:21]


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User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

I liked Vigeland Park and a walk around the Opera House.


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Oslo
Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Cheap  

Good luck with that! lol

I don't know what you are into, but you can do a walking tour of the city (free) and take a hit for meals. Drink water and order the cheapest thing on the menu and you might make it out not broke  



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
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It is not feeding myself that I am concerned about, I shall have decent supplies and will not be averse to buying a couple of beers. It is boredom that bothers me, as it tends to get me spending.


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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7381 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Quoting signol (Reply 3):
The boat there is not expensive (for Norway!) But the museum costs 100NOK.

Yup but the airport express costs 340 NOK return, the bus isn't that much cheaper but takes significantly more time. You could always just walk around and look at the girls and have lunch in Burger king, that will cost about 100 NOK, looking at girls is free unless you're looking at one of the thousands of Oslo street whores, they are a laugh but you might be tempted to pay, god only know why they are mostly ugly black africans (no disrespect intended, but these are generally very ugly women, we aren't talking Iman look-a-likes here), watching the drug dealers outside Sentral Station can also be entertaining, it's also free unless you intend to buy something.

So unless you don't plan on eating a day in Oslo is going to cost you minimum 340 NOK.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14026 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2737 times:

The legal per diem a German boss has to pay his employee sent to Norway on business (and which he can deduct of his tax) is €70 as per German law. This is just for food and is the highest on the list.

Jan


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2714 times:
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Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 10):
The legal per diem a German boss has to pay his employee sent to Norway on business (and which he can deduct of his tax) is €70 as per German law. This is just for food and is the highest on the list.

Again, to be clear - I know Norway is bloody expensive. I have been. Just looking for some 'outside the box' ideas.

Quoting Scooter01 (Reply 5):
Since I've just retired, I'll be happy to show you around a bit...

Thanks for that. Will drop you a PM.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 9):
looking at girls

.....always good......

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 9):
looking at one of the thousands of Oslo street whores, they are a laugh but you might be tempted to pay, god only know why they are mostly ugly black africans (no disrespect intended, but these are generally very ugly women, we aren't talking Iman look-a-likes here), watching the drug dealers

.....pass.

As for eating, I actually do intend to bring food for 24 hrs or so, so as not to expend loads on the train.



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

So....why's Norway so expensive?

User currently offlineYokoTsuno From Singapore, joined Feb 2011, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 12):
So....why's Norway so expensive?
There are roughly two reasons why a country is expensive. Gross labour cost and infrastucture cost.

Labour cost is very high. An entry level job I believe is around NOK23000 or US$4000 a month. I don't know about real-estate prices but since Norway has plenty of land, I assume real estate is relatively low.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7381 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 13):
Gross labour cost and infrastucture cost.

I get the labour cost, Norwegians are overpaid, but infrastructure cost Norway has poor quality infrastructure, that's one of the major anomalies of Norway so much money but amazingly poor quality infrastructure, schools, roads, medical services, train services all substandard and the govt says they can't all be fixed since it will overheat the economy.

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 13):
I assume real estate is relatively low.

Real estate is incredibly expensive, even in my wee town a 3/4 bedroom standard family home will set you back 4 million NOK, it gets even worse in the major population centres.


User currently offlineYokoTsuno From Singapore, joined Feb 2011, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
Real estate is incredibly expensive, even in my wee town a 3/4 bedroom standard family home will set you back 4 million NOK, it gets even worse in the major population centres.

That is hard to comprehend with such a low population density.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
Norway so much money but amazingly poor quality infrastructure, schools, roads, medical services, train services all substandard and the govt says they can't all be fixed since it will overheat the economy

Even more amazing. Our government always like to use Scandinavia as a reference when it comes to child care, medical services, and schools.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7381 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 15):
Our government always like to use Scandinavia as a reference when it comes to child care, medical services, and schools.

Scandinavia is more than just Norway.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2625 times:
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Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
train services all substandard and the govt says they can't all be fixed since it will overheat the economy.

Oh maaan....am I going to really regret spending nearly a day each way on the train?



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2292 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 17):
Oh maaan....am I going to really regret spending nearly a day each way on the train?

Not if you like trains. They're just slow compared to other West Euro nations (or Japan, etc).


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7381 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2611 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 17):
Oh maaan....am I going to really regret spending nearly a day each way on the train?

How far North are you going? Trains in Norway are very very slow, especially going North, much easier and far far quicker to fly. Just a take some books/magazines and bring your own food, train foods is bad even by Norwegian standards and expensive.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2603 times:
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Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 19):
How far North are you going? Trains in Norway are very very slow, especially going North, much easier and far far quicker to fly. Just a take some books/magazines and bring your own food, train foods is bad even by Norwegian standards and expensive.

Going 18 hours from Oslo to Bodo. I would fly, but the train and FR from STN was just too cheap, and I could do with conserving cash. 700 krone return, plus 30 quid return flight. Including the cost of me getting to LGW from here to fly DY, or to LHR to fly SAS when I live right next to STN, this is a ridiculous bargain. And I do love travelling. I have read the trains are not too uncomfortable, and that hopefully there'll be wifi and/or power? Have plenty of films and music on my S3, will have a fully-charged kindle, plenty of food, and I hear the view out of the window is not bad. Should be cool.



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User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2292 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 20):
And I do love travelling. I have read the trains are not too uncomfortable, and that hopefully there'll be wifi and/or power?

There's power... and there should be wi-fi though I never could make it work. I did Trondheim-Bodo myself, 10 hours. Not bad, but 36 hours in a train total? It's a lot. How long are you staying? Bodo was quite nice when I was there. Not too much to do, but pleasant. Are you visiting the Aviation Museum?


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 20):
I have read the trains are not too uncomfortable, and that hopefully there'll be wifi and/or power?

I recently did take the train on a fjord excursion along the Oslo-Bergen line. They had in-seat power and wifi, yet the return Voss to Oslo on a newer train had spotty wifi while the older going Oslo to Myrdal on the Bergen line had decent wifi. I suggest going on nsb.no to get set up your login information now. You will need a physical Norwegian address with postal code and phone number, but I used the address and number of my hotel and it worked.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6656 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

About infrastructure cost, the weather and geography means it's very high, maintenance too. Also, the country is big compared to its tiny population, meaning funding things is difficult. Now, according to international classifications, it's still a country with a very high standard of living. A cousin of mine emigrated there a decade ago and worked as a bartender at first, he was making more than twice the French minimum wage, which is one of the highest in the world.


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2529 times:
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Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
. Not bad, but 36 hours in a train total? It's a lot. How long are you staying?

Travelling back Sunday, so not that long really, but it's all good. It is a long journey, but it beats work! Will try to get to the museum, though right now am more interested in hooking some tasty fish (real ones, not metaphorically!).



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 8):
It is boredom that bothers me, as it tends to get me spending.

And you're going to be on a train for 36 hours?

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 13):
I don't know about real-estate prices but since Norway has plenty of land, I assume real estate is relatively low.

There is a lot of 'unbuildable' or undesirable land in Norway. Some very rural counties have used tax and free land incentives to get people to move but not a lot of takers.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 26, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2176 times:
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Being on a train with beautiful scenery to look at, Internet to surf, and knowing you are going somewhere is very different from killing time in a town you are just stopping off in en route.


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