Cush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2158 times:
I hate to say it, but this is typical. When you hire the bottom of the barrel, you get the bottom. As long as you can spell your name, and have no criminal past, you can work for TSA.
mcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1278 posts, RR: 17 Reply 2, posted (7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2099 times:
Even having a criminal past doesn't disqualify you for the TSA. They have felons screening passengers! Some agents can't even vote because of felonies, yet they can search you and your bags.
NKOPS From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2544 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
according to the article, it was only one agent, not agentS..... 9 of the 10 TSA checkpoints followed procedure according to the article... the OP makes it sound like ABC News caught several.
Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3573 posts, RR: 52 Reply 4, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1420 times:
Quoting NKOPS (Reply 3): according to the article, it was only one agent, not agentS..... 9 of the 10 TSA checkpoints followed procedure according to the article... the OP makes it sound like ABC News caught several.
1 out of 10 equals 2 out of 20 and so on, so with 58.000+ employees working for the TSA, statistically, 5.800 of them would have stolen an Ipad or would if they had the chance.
Soren
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DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5318 posts, RR: 47 Reply 6, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1353 times:
gingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 854 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1338 times:
It is concerning for those of us who travel through US airports to international destinations. If my iPad was taken from my baggage just prior to leaving for LHR...I'd never get it back or even get something that would allow me to replace it.
Then again I haven't liked travelling into/throughout the US after the TSA were let loose.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10471 posts, RR: 20 Reply 8, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1326 times:
Quoting gingersnap (Reply 7): If my iPad was taken from my baggage just prior to leaving for LHR...I'd never get it back or even get something that would allow me to replace it.
Indeed, but I hoped people noticed in this case the iPads were purposely left behind, not removed from baggage.
Quoting gingersnap (Reply 7): Then again I haven't liked travelling into/throughout the US after the TSA were let loose.
None of us like TSA, but there's no going back to the wide open doors of the pre-2001 era either.
gingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 854 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1317 times:
Quoting Revelation (Reply 8): Indeed, but I hoped people noticed in this case the iPads were purposely left behind, not removed from baggage.
Common sense yes I suppose. Well I'm due to travel through LAX next, and it's a shame but I'll be ensuring to check I have my valuables once passing the checkpoint.
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7643 posts, RR: 28 Reply 10, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1257 times:
About half of them seem to be reasonably competent and the other half are outright scum. I remember standing in a very slow security line entering the HNL int'l terminal 1.5 years ago for a return flight to Japan and watching two agents handling all of the security procedure for about 50 people in line while three others stood around, rubbing their bellies, carrying on personal conversations (my assumption due to the frequent laughter), and checking texts on their damn phones. It took a lot of willpower to maintain a modicum of civility for the next 20 minutes it took to get through.
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Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
Quoting Revelation (Reply 8): Indeed, but I hoped people noticed in this case the iPads were purposely left behind, not removed from baggage.
You'd be surprised at how many tablets (not to mention cell phones and laptops) are left behind by mistake every day. I'd be willing to bet it numbers in the hundreds.
thegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2274 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1235 times:
We should've never sacrificed liberty for a sense of security...
After 9-11 those guys got us good...playing on our emotions now look were we ended up
EL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1123 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1226 times:
That is not just an american issue. In september 2010 I had a package of cigarettes stolen from my bag in Malta MLA airport. Once I noticed it, I contacted the Maltese police, airport management and ministry of tourism - with nothing done till this very day.
AzoresLover From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 744 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1167 times:
Quoting L-188 (Reply 5): I havent flown anywhere since I went south for my grandfatgers funeral and that was four years ago.
I dont have and wont have any trips planned for a long time
There is just too much offensive about security now to even worry about it
Quoting gingersnap (Reply 7): Then again I haven't liked travelling into/throughout the US after the TSA were let loose
Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 12): We should've never sacrificed liberty for a sense of security
I agree with all of these posters. I have not flown for nearly 7 1/2 years, and I have no intention of flying again except in an emergency situation. I have flown all my adult life, even had a job where I was on the road for 2 weeks and more per month. But I simply do NOT like being considered as possibly guilty until I have proven through what are IMO very invasive tactics before being allowed to simply get from point A to Point B. Now I drive or take AMTRAK to whereever I want to go. Benjamin Franklin had it right when he said: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Those who want to do something will find a way; those who don't will find an excuse.
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12335 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1128 times:
Complaints about the USA's TSA have probably been among the most common one-sided discussions on this site. 100's of incidents of incompetency, abuses of power, misinterpretation of laws, harassment of low-risk persons, 'thousands standing around' while you fume in an long line, not catching guns and knives but stealing i-Phones have led to 100's of topics and 100's of thousands of posts here. We have a TSA system that encourages hostile attitudes toward them compounding their job. There are also too many incompetent passengers who have loaded guns and other contraband in carry ons, put expensive jewelry in checked bags, get too anxious and forgetful after the TSA Checkpoints to remember all there stuff, think only 'middle-eastern looking' men should have to face security while all white European men should be exempt. We also need to figure out a balance of how we staff the TSA, to keep out criminals and potential incompetents, deal with the realities of how humans work in stressful situations, compensation, scheduling, not making a hostile situation from their side and limit the opportunites of theft.
We need a real, genuine, extensive and non-politicized examination of our TSA, from the staffing and passanger sides, constantly reviewing and revising procedures to improve it, to minimise hassles, to be financially affordable and to make sure we are really secure.
BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5289 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1099 times:
Quoting NKOPS (Reply 3): according to the article, it was only one agent, not agentS..... 9 of the 10 TSA checkpoints followed procedure according to the article... the OP makes it sound like ABC News caught several.
If you watched the entire program - it disclosed that over 370+ TSA Agents have been fired for theft over the last few years that's TOO HIGH.
And these people at best...are comparable to Burger King employees, sorry no offense to any TSA workers here (you most likely are one of the good ones). To have such a person in-charge of security is a complete joke and an insult!
The question is...when will people wake up and realize that this is a farce and a facade?! If such a large number can be compromised sooooo easily, how difficult could it be to really get a few together to do something pretty darn horrific when cost is not an obstacle. Not hard at all. To watch these retards barking orders at people at airports just makes my skin crawl because you can actually see a limited-minded person asserting unbridled force and control over people even if it's just for a few minutes...and for anyone to be okay with it speaks volumes. That there are thieves, felons and crooks among there like the guy in the news story is even more appalling.
Somewhere, someplace some higher up in DC already knows this is joke, a profitable joke and will ride that gravy trail as long as they can/ (yes I know it's a Federal Agency but it's equipment and associated private contractor activity must total in the billions).
BN747
"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
Quoting ltbewr (Reply 15): We need a real, genuine, extensive and non-politicized examination of our TSA
Please tell me what is political (and not genuine) about pointing out that TSA:
1) Hires felons
2) Has a serious problem with theft
3) Has a serious problem with drug smuggling
4) Has never stopped or prevented an attack on an airplane
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