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Rush - Nominated For The Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame  
User currently offlineVARIGB707 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1362 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has just announced their list of nominees to be inducted as part of the 2013 class. RUSH, Deep Purple and Heart are on it!
Here's more :
http://www.guitarworld.com/rush-deep...-nominated-rock-and-roll-hall-fame



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User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

From the article "Included in the list are several names that perpetually appear on "Hall of Fame Snubs" lists, including Deep Purple, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Heart and Rush."

They don't need to look any further than the 4 greats listed above, IMO.

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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

Finally!
Alex had to beat up a cop to get the Hall Of Fame's attention.  

Just kidding!  



So how does this work? Do they all get in or is it a vote?
I love Heart and Deep Purple as well.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9395 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2358 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
So how does this work? Do they all get in or is it a vote?

It's a vote. Basically, a bunch of BS, if you look at who has gotten in and who has not.

Rush doesn't care, I don't care, and really, I hope no one does. One look at who has been inducted and who hasn't should be enough to see that it doesn't matter at all.

With that said, congrats to Rush and the others nominated.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
Finally!

It's about dang time!



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 3):

It's a vote. Basically, a bunch of BS, if you look at who has gotten in and who has not.

In your opinion who shouldn't be there?


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Not that I'm a fan (my mum is) the most glaring omission is Cliff Richard (and The Shadows), the guy has been around for 50 years, has had a number 1 hits in pretty much every decade since he started, and has spent over 22 years in the UK charts alone, he pretty much single handedly started rock and roll in the UK and Europe, before Cliff there was nothing after Cliff there was everything, without him The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Kinks and the whole British rock invasion wouldn't have happened. A far more significant act that Rush, Joan Jett, Heart and Deep Purple put together.

[Edited 2012-10-04 11:46:15]

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 6):
the most glaring omission is Cliff Richard
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 6):
A far more significant act that Rush, Joan Jett, Heart and Deep Purple put together.




                    

My sides is about to explode over that one!
I needed a good laught!      



No disrespect to Cliff Richards. I do love his song; 'We Don't Talk Anymore'. I brings back fond memories of 1st grade.
Your attempt to put him on the same pedestal as Rush, Joan Jett, Heart and Deep Purple has got to be the funniest post I've ever!  
If you're gauging by hits in every decade, then the group Chicago needs to on the list. They are phenomenal and have had hits consistently since the late 1960s - not just 1 hit per decade like Cliff Richards.



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Once again, the New York Dolls are snubbed. If it wasn't for the New York Dolls, you wouldn't have The Ramones, R.E.M., the Sex Pistols, Talking Heads, the Pretenders, and Blondie. They were also a bit of an influence on Aerosmith as well. That's just the tip of the iceberg, as they also influenced a lot of the "hair bands" of the 1980s as well. They were the act that got the NYC rock music scene of the 1970s started. I guess being snubbed by the RRHoF is David Johansen's penance for inflicting the world with his Buster Poindexter persona.....


Watch Rush miss the cut and Kraftwerk gets in......


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 8):
Once again, the New York Dolls are snubbed.


For good reason.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 8):
If it wasn't for the New York Dolls, you wouldn't have The Ramones, R.E.M., the Sex Pistols



        
Just kill me already!
Those bands are responsible for the wimpy, whiny emo bands of today which is the shame of 'rock' music.
Punk/alternative should be buried once & for all.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9395 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
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Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 5):
In your opinion who shouldn't be there?

It's not so much who shouldn't be there (I don't consider myself in a position to judge that), but who got in before who.

Like, Madonna and Grandmaster Flash got in before Metallica, Jeff Beck, The Stooges, Alice Cooper, etc...

And of course, the bands that have been ignored, like Rush, Deep Purple, etc.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Those bands are responsible for the wimpy, whiny emo bands of today which is the shame of 'rock' music.
Punk/alternative should be buried once & for all.


Ah come on 'Fly. Love or hate it, you can't deny such music was huge and had a large influence.

I mean, hell, if it was up to me, I'd erase '80s hair-metal....  



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Just kill me already!
Those bands are responsible for the wimpy, whiny emo bands of today which is the shame of 'rock' music.
Punk/alternative should be buried once & for all.

No, bands like Green Day and No Doubt are responsible....... Old school punk is great; what passes for punk these days is an insult. The only time you see the Clash and Broadway in the same sentence, it's about the 1991 box, not some musical.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 10):
I mean, hell, if it was up to me, I'd erase '80s hair-metal....

My ban finger is a bit itchy right about now.......   You're talking about the pop music of my youth, as bands like Poison, Motley Crue and Def Leppard were constantly on the Top 40 charts in the late 1980s.


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9395 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2253 times:
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Quoting srbmod (Reply 11):
You're talking about the pop music of my youth, as bands like Poison, Motley Crue and Def Leppard were constantly on the Top 40 charts in the late 1980s.

I'm terribly sorry!  

I don't hate all hair-metal. Actually I like a number of songs. But overall, I generally can't stand the production style and sound, the voices, etc....

Just to give an example, I absolutely LOVE the song "Little Fighter" by White Lion.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 11):
No, bands like Green Day and No Doubt are responsible.......

See, now you're talking about the music of MY youth! Though I'm not a huge Green Day or No Doubt fan. But the '90s is my musical birth period.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 11):
Old school punk is great; what passes for punk these days is an insult. The only time you see the Clash and Broadway in the same sentence, it's about the 1991 box, not some musical.

Ahhh, now you're going to get me into the whole "labeling genres" debate. If what passes for punk is an insult, then don't call it punk! Who cares, anyway?

Hell, my favorite genre overall is probably metal, and metal is chock full of people who like to categorize, down to minutiae that I wouldn't even consider. I just don't get it, have never gotten it, and will never get it. Genres are useful for categorizing music in a store.....that's about it.



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User currently offlineTheRedBaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2154 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 3):
Rush doesn't care, I don't care, and really, I hope no one does. One look at who has been inducted and who hasn't should be enough to see that it doesn't matter at all.

With that said, congrats to Rush and the others nominated.

100% agree.

See ya in San diego RUSH Nov 21...Whoooooo hooooo.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Your attempt to put him on the same pedestal as Rush, Joan Jett, Heart and Deep Purple has got to be the funniest post I've ever!

Hell yes without Cliff (and The Shadows) you wouldn't have had the British rock invasion and all music that flowed from it, I'm also pretty sure his 300 million records sales eclipse the total sales of Rush, Joan Jett, Heart and Deep Purple combined. I don't like Cliff I never have but as someone who basically started everything from the UK and European side of things his omission is glaring, he should have been inducted in the first couple of batches.

So I'd put him on a pedestal far above a the 4 acts you mentioned, he's up there with Elvis and The Beatles.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 10):
Ah come on 'Fly. Love or hate it, you can't deny such music was huge and had a large influence.


Punk is about as influential as AIDS and 9/11.
It may have made an impact but doesn't mean it deserves an award.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 10):
I mean, hell, if it was up to me, I'd erase '80s hair-metal....


Shame on you!      

Quoting srbmod (Reply 11):
You're talking about the pop music of my youth, as bands like Poison, Motley Crue and Def Leppard were constantly on the Top 40 charts in the late 1980s.


Not only that, they capture the pure essence of rock; sex, drugs, alcohol, money, sex and more sex. Also really talented shredding guitarist and an occasional kicka$$ drummer and/or operatic vocalist. Punk is just rebellion without the sex, talent or money.
Hair metal Gods I'm partial to is Whitesnake, Ratt, Dokken, Motley Crue, Night Ranger as well as 80s Kiss, Vinnie Vincent and Heart.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 12):
See, now you're talking about the music of MY youth! Though I'm not a huge Green Day or No Doubt fan. But the '90s is my musical birth period.


Yes but you are wise enough to reach back to the previous decade for the good stuff.  



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Heart.

Hair metal are you kidding, hard rock yes, hair metal no way.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 16):
Hair metal are you kidding, hard rock yes, hair metal no way.



I'm talking 80s Heart.
They went through a 5 year hair-metal period from 1985 - 1990.



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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11123 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

I don't understand why they were not inducted as one of the first bands!


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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9395 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2230 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Not only that, they capture the pure essence of rock; sex, drugs, alcohol, money, sex and more sex.

 Wow!

  

Please! Hair metal in no way captures the pure essence of rock. It's the essence of rock put through a ridiculous producer's sheen, and coated in spandex, eyeliner, and hairspray.

For the essence of rock, I look toward ACDC, 70s Aerosmith, the Stones, the Who, Zeppelin, Van Halen, etc. Nothing beats guitar (or two), bass, drums, and some nice slightly hoarse vocals. No studio sheen required. I mean hell, don't get me started on the completely fake drum sounds on 80s metal songs. Whoever decided to start layering drum samples over acoustic drums needs to be shot. Rock and roll has to have that slight looseness in there.

Nothing against 80s metal (there's no whole genre of music I hate) - like I said, I like some of the songs. But geez, I'd never call that the essence of rock! Some great party anthems and arena rockers, sure.

Quoting TheRedBaron (Reply 13):
See ya in San diego RUSH Nov 21...Whoooooo hooooo.

I'll be seeing them in Hollywood and Anaheim.  

EDIT: forgot to respond to this:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Punk is about as influential as AIDS and 9/11.

So, it's as influential as two EXTREMELY influential things?  Wink

[Edited 2012-10-04 22:35:25]


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 19):
It's the essence of rock put through a ridiculous producer's sheen, and coated in spandex, eyeliner, and hairspray.


You mean over-the-top escapism? An element of fantasy is always good too to escape it all and get lost in the a world of decadence.  
This video sums it all up. This captures everything that's awesome about rock.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3DJhwAhrjY



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2217 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 19):
Nothing beats guitar (or two), bass, drums

And who was the band that started guitar rock in the UK, it was Cliff and the Shadows, two guitars, bass and drums they kicked it all off. So the fact that they haven't been inducted into the hall of fame makes it all a bit of a pharse.

Hank Marvin has been sited as an influence on the following Eric Clapton, David Gilmour, Tony Iommi, Mark Knopfler, Neil Young, Steve Clark and Carlos Santana.


User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11123 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

Yes, I like Lady Gaga and Adele and Pink, but there is something to be said for hair bands. They can play instruments. They are singers. Also, horrid as REO Speedwagon's lead singer is, at least he has talent. As opposed to One Direction.


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User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11123 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
This video sums it all up. This captures everything that's awesome about rock.

But not Tawney Kitane dancing in a white flowing dress on two Jaguars? Even I thought that was sexy.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting seb146 (Reply 22):
horrid as REO Speedwagon's lead singer


"Horrid" in what way?
He is an amazing singer, piano player and guitar player.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 23):
But not Tawney Kitane dancing in a white flowing dress on two Jaguars? Even I thought that was sexy.



Yes that was HOT!   


Rock music needs to get back to this level of talent and showmanship. Today they just whine, throw temper tantrums and make big political statements.
Like we really care about how much toilet tissue Sheryl Crow uses.  



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25 Post contains images vikkyvik : I'm not saying yes or no to that. I'm not familiar enough with Cliff and the Shadows to comment. An element of fantasy pretty much puts it in the rea
26 Post contains images Superfly : That's mainly why I like it. Whitesnake is a sophisticated metal band. The orchestrations and the final polish is something I'd expect with Burt Bach
27 TheRedBaron : My fave Rush Album is Permanet Waves, (I know all the songs on the guitar), but a close second is Power windows, luckily they will perform a lot of PW
28 KiwiRob : Johnny Cash, Dusty Springfield, RUN DMC, Miles Davis and Leonard Cohen are rock and roll either!
29 Superfly : Power Windows was the album that pulled me in as a fan when it came out. Is their set list already confirmed?
30 slider : Ah, time for the oft-repeated rant against the idiotic "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame...with emphasis on the quoted rock and roll, since the place has b
31 KiwiRob : Thing is you are looking at Cliff from a US perspective, he was never popular in the US, but the guy has sold nearly 300 million records, how many ot
32 Post contains images slider : I was making a joke. Do you remember the BBC show, The Young Ones?
33 KiwiRob : I do, used to watch is religiously.
34 Post contains images YVRLTN : They are not already on there?? It must be made by the same kid who makes 'worlds greatest rock band' playlists on youtube...
35 brilondon : Madonna and Michael Jackson for two... Have you heard the song Hurt, a collaboration with Nine Inch Nails? Yeah, and don't forget those power house o
36 NASCARAirforce : Its about time Rush got nominated. I think Rush should snub them in return
37 Post contains images superfly : Well said. I actually like those bands - Wham and Culture Club actually consist of good musicians. It's just too bad that the era in which they were
38 vikkyvik : That's not a collaboration. It's a cover. "Hurt" was originally released on The Downward Spiral, a Nine Inch Nails album. Johnny Cash covered it on o
39 NASCARAirforce : Downward Spiral was released back in 1993/1994. I think Johnny Cash's cover of it was probably his last song he did before he died. He does change th
40 Post contains links and images superfly : Actually there has been one tribute album. It didn't go over so well and the artist that participated are probably happy that many are unaware that p
41 KiwiRob : No questions about that, but it was the British in the 60's who made it what it is today. So would I, and they still make good music today.
42 Post contains links and images vikkyvik : Ugh. Probably! On another note, some comments from Alex Lifeson pretty well expressing their views on the nomination: "I'm really happy for the Rush
43 Superfly : I find it more amusing than Weird Al Yankovic parodies.
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