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To Fat To Be A News Anchor!  
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

I saw this on CNN last night, is Jennifer Livingston to fat to be on the news?

Quote:
Jennifer Livingston, an anchor for CBS affiliate WKBT in La Crosse, Wi., addressed her bully head on after receiving a letter — which her husband, WKBT anchor Mike Thompson, posted on his Facebook page — that scolded her for being an unacceptable role model on television for young girls because of her weight.

"Obesity is one of the worst choices a person can make and one of the most dangerous habits to maintain," a portion of the letter read. "I leave you this note hoping that you'll reconsider your responsibility as a local public personality to present and promote a healthy lifestyle."

Rest of the article here

Now I don't think it was particularily nice what he said but I do agree with it, having an obese person fronting the news everynight gives off the impression that being fat is ok, it's not a good example for anyone.

What do others think?

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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12732 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

Using 'to' instead of 'too' sets a worse example, says I...


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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2433 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 1):

   especially when the same mistake is repeated in the same post.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8866 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Your butt is wide, well mine is too
Just watch your mouth or I'll sit on you
The word is out, better treat me right
'Cause I'm the king of cellulite
Ham on, ham on, ham on whole wheat, all right

My zippers bust, my buckles break
I'm too much man for you to take
The pavement cracks when I fall down
I've got more chins than Chinatown

Well, I've never used a phone booth
And I've never seen my toes
When I'm goin' to the movies
I take up seven rows

Because I'm fat, I'm fat, come on
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, come on you know
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
Don't you call me pudgy, portly or stout
Just now tell me once again who's fat

When I walk out to get my mail
It measures on the Richter scale
Down at the beach I'm a lucky man
I'm the only one who gets a tan
If I have one more pie a la mode
I'm gonna need my own zip code

When you're only having seconds
I'm having twenty-thirds
When I go to get my shoes shined
I gotta take their word

Because I'm fat, I'm fat, sha mone
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it you know
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
And my shadow weighs forty-two pounds
Lemme tell you once again who's fat

If you see me comin' your way
Better give me plenty space
If I tell you that I'm hungry
Then won't you feed my face

Because I'm fat, I'm fat, sha mone
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it, you know
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
Woo woo woo, when I sit around the house
I really sit around the house

You know I'm fat, I'm fat, come on
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it, you know it
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know, you know, you know, come on
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
And you know all by myself I'm a crowd
Lemme tell you once again

You know I'm huge, I'm fat, you know it
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, you know, hoo
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it, you know
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
And the whole world knows I'm fat and I'm proud
Just tell me once again who's fat

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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12732 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
I've got more chins than Chinatown

 Wow!  Wow!  Wow!



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

I support Jennifer Livingston and she deserves a lot of credit for taking on that obnoxious pr!ck. Rather refreshing considering the canned, scripted and predictable nature of news outlets today.
She is in Wisconsin and she the average size in Wisconsin. I see nothing wrong with her nor see any shortcomings.
It doesn't affect her job and news reporters usually aren't attractive anyway. That's more (and should be) more of an issue for flight attendants.
I really don't understand why some people obsess themselves with other people's weight.
The man who wrote that nasty letter is a total coward because no one knows what he looks like. He could very well look like hell himself. Same for anyone else that brings this issue up over an over again in a Internet discussion board, yet never reveals their own identity....



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User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

Yet we have the Simpsons which advocates alcoholism, and truancy.

Somebody was bored and wanted to moan at somebody. She is not "too fat" to do her job. Her job is to read and speak. Nobody is too fat for that, unless they're dead.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
She is in Wisconsin and she the average size in Wisconsin.

Rather sad then for the long term health of the state.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
news reporters usually aren't attractive anyway

You need to watch more news.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
The man who wrote that nasty letter is a total coward because no one knows what he looks like

He looks like this.



User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 7):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
The man who wrote that nasty letter is a total coward because no one knows what he looks like

He looks like this.

Are you guys going to have a duel? If so, could we have a duel thread please?


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

The guy that wrote the original letter is a bigot....

Thats about it, to be fat in this day and age is rapidly becoming the. Ew negro in the 1960's or gay in the early 80's



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 6):
Somebody was bored and wanted to moan at somebody. She is not "too fat" to do her job. Her job is to read and speak. Nobody is too fat for that, unless they're dead.

Exactly.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 7):
Rather sad then for the long term health of the state.

Nope. It's been that way forever. Luckily it's nothing for you to worry about.
Most people that like to insult other people's weight aren't as build as this guy.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 7):
He looks like this.

He has tattoos. Those can have health risk as well.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):
The guy that wrote the original letter is a bigot....


[Edited 2012-10-05 06:46:15]


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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2195 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):
Ew negro in the 1960's or gay in the early 80's

I don't see being fat as even in the same ballpark as the two issues you mentioned, you can't do anything about the color of your skin or who you are attracted too, you can do something about being fat.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
He has tattoos. Those can have health risk as well.

I'd like to see you prove that having tattoos is anywhere near as dangerous to your health as being obese.

Personally I see fat as similar issue to smoking we all know the health risks associated with smoking and smoking rates are dropping, we all know being fat is dangerous yet obesity rates are climbing. I think the problem is being fat is becoming socially acceptable, this is wrong fat is not good, we don't defend smokers so why should we defend fatties.


User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2177 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
you can do something about being fat.

Not in all cases. To some extent you're fighting genetics and there are other factors that may cause someone to not lose weight effectively or at all. My wife has a hormonal disorder that makes it more difficult for her to lose weight compared to others. Frankly speaking she'd be considered overweight based on BMI alone (which is BS). Yet she is an avid runner, watches her diet, practices yoga, and is in pretty good health overall. The point that Livingston makes is that Krause doesn't know her personally and doesn't know what her circumstances are. To criticize her like this *is* bullying.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):

I'd like to see you prove that having tattoos is anywhere near as dangerous to your health as being obese

I don't know, I'd think the risks of hepatitis B/C, HIV/AIDS, or other bloodborne pathogens are a bit more dangerous to your health (and the health of others) than having a few extra pounds.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6726 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2160 times:

Well I think that if you can you should lose the weight and a lot of effort has to be put into achieving that from all parties, but discriminating against fat people when there isn't an obvious safety issue (fat F/A or pilot, say) is not morally acceptable and will not achieve the desired outcome. If she lost her job would it help her lose weight ? Don't think so.

[Edited 2012-10-05 07:44:22]


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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11426 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2145 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
I see nothing wrong with her nor see any shortcomings.

Well, you have a noted affinity for larger women.  

(To be fair, she does wear it well.)

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
The man who wrote that nasty letter is a total coward because no one knows what he looks like.

The man that wrote that also did not publicize it. It was a private letter written to the station. The news anchor made it public, not the author of the letter.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 12):
Not in all cases. To some extent you're fighting genetics and there are other factors that may cause someone to not lose weight effectively or at all.

Maybe, but I doubt genetics is at issue here. Here is her brother, the actor Ron Livingston (Sex and the City, Band of Brothers, Dinner for Schmucks, etc.)




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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2132 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 14):

Maybe, but I doubt genetics is at issue here. Here is her brother, the actor Ron Livingston (Sex and the City, Band of Brothers, Dinner for Schmucks, etc.)

Your post is naught but fail on its very face for failure to mention what's perhaps his best role: Peter Gibbons in Office Space, especially in light of your inclusion of that awful adaptation of a wonderfully funny French movie!  

Didn't realize that was his sister! Still though, it's not like they're identical twins - they'll have genetic similarities but enough differences that she may have other factors going for her (PCOS being one that springs to mind straight away)



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11426 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2128 times:

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 15):
Your post is naught but fail on its very face for failure to mention what's perhaps his best role: Peter Gibbons in Office Space

Oh man. That was a pretty serious infraction on my part! Seriously, that movie saved my life.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2113 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
or who you are attracted too, you can do something about being fat.


...and what about those of us that are attracted to fatter people?

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
I think the problem is being fat is becoming socially acceptable


Go ahead and poke fun at all the fat people you see. We'd love to see how that ends up.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 12):
Frankly speaking she'd be considered overweight based on BMI alone (which is BS). Yet she is an avid runner, watches her diet, practices yoga, and is in pretty good health overall.


  
Totally agreed! I was easily doing 30-40 miles a week on my bicycle and was doing that routinely when I lived in San Francisco, yet 260 pounds. I never felt my weight was an issue for me to exercise, have energy, get girls, etc.
According to those silly BMI charts, I'm 'supposed' to be 165 pounds since I'm 5'11".
I would look totally SICK at 165 pounds. I haven't weight that light since I was in 9th grade way back in the 80s. I've seen guys that are 5'11" and 165 pounds. I think it looks extremely frail and sick.
That only looks cool if he has long hair down to his waiste and is a singer in a metal band.  
Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 12):
The point that Livingston makes is that Krause doesn't know her personally and doesn't know what her circumstances are. To criticize her like this *is* bullying.



Exactly.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 12):
the risks of hepatitis B/C, HIV/AIDS, or other bloodborne pathogens are a bit more dangerous to your health (and the health of others) than having a few extra pounds.

  

Quoting D L X (Reply 14):
Well, you have a noted affinity for larger women.



LOL!   
I am a little biased.
I've given many 1 on 1 confidence building talks to voluptuous women that's led to many happy endings.

Quoting D L X (Reply 14):
(To be fair, she does wear it well.)



Yes she does, although I wouldn't put her in a 'would you hit it?' threads either.

It's funny how there are so many 'slim' women in her age bracket that smoke, think they know it all and can't keep a man. Yet Jennifer Livingston is a full-figure lady that is a professional anchor woman, married an has 2 children. Apparently she is doing something right and all these haters can go stuff a sock up their you know what....

[Edited 2012-10-05 08:40:23]


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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2091 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 16):

Oh man. That was a pretty serious infraction on my part! Seriously, that movie saved my life.


I should crawl back into bed for the rest of the day.

Nah just wait until Monday and call in with a case of the Mondays   Seriously though, Le Diner de Cons/The Dinner Game is much better than Dinner for Schmucks!

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):


Totally agreed! I was easily doing 30-40 miles a week on my bicycle and was doing that routinely when I lived in San Francisco, yet 260 pounds. I never felt my weight was an issue for me to exercise, have energy, get girls, etc.
According to those silly BMI charts, I'm 'supposed' to be 165 pounds since I'm 5'11".
I would look totally SICK at 165 pounds. I haven't weight that light since I was in 9th grade way back in the 80s. I've seen guys that are 5'11" and 165 pounds. I think it looks extremely frail and sick.

BMI was developed in the early-mid 19th century by a Belgian mathematician and it's notably fraught with errors. Many pro athletes are considered "overweight" or "obese" based off BMI because it doesn't take into account frame size or muscularity. Penn & Teller's "Bullshit!" did a great episode on BMI featuring a "fatlympics" with several participants who had normal BMIs and several with "overweight or obese" BMIs. The gold medal winner came from the latter category.

At the same time I know people who have perfectly fine BMIs who are walking ads for atherosclerosis based on their diets and lack of exercise - they just lucked out and hit the genetic lottery.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 18):
BMI was developed in the early-mid 19th century by a Belgian mathematician and it's notably fraught with errors.

I see.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 18):
Penn & Teller's "Bullshit!" did a great episode on BMI featuring a "fatlympics"

I remember seeing that. It was hilarious too.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 18):
At the same time I know people who have perfectly fine BMIs who are walking ads for atherosclerosis based on their diets and lack of exercise - they just lucked out and hit the genetic lottery.

When I see people that are that frail, one of the things that come to mind is AIDS or crack.



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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2052 times:

I watched her on GMA the other morning, and her husband had explained she has a thyroid issue, that makes it harder for her to lose weight, he always stated that she ran some marathon, was going to run one this weekend. So it isn't if she's some slob who doesn't care about her health, it's because she a medical condition.

[Edited 2012-10-05 09:51:44]


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User currently offline747srule From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

She's not fat,she's just short for her weight!


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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10104 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2027 times:
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Quoting Revelation (Reply 1):
Using 'to' instead of 'too' sets a worse example, says I...

      

Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):
He has tattoos. Those can have health risk as well.

Not to mention mountain biking. Falling down a cliff can have serious health risks.

Quoting D L X (Reply 14):
The man that wrote that also did not publicize it. It was a private letter written to the station. The news anchor made it public, not the author of the letter.

Writer beware, I suppose. I'd have a pretty hard time not calling him out. His poor judgment is a worse threat than her obesity.

Quoting D L X (Reply 14):
Maybe, but I doubt genetics is at issue here. Here is her brother, the actor Ron Livingston (Sex and the City, Band of Brothers, Dinner for Schmucks, etc.)

There are dwarfs/midgets (little people for the PC crowd) who have regular-sized siblings/parents/offspring. Is genetics not an issue there? Inheritance of traits isn't an equal-opportunity establishment.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 15):
Your post is naught but fail on its very face for failure to mention what's perhaps his best role: Peter Gibbons in Office Space, especially in light of your inclusion of that awful TV show!

Fixed that for you.

Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 20):
So it isn't if she's some slob who doesn't care about her health, it's because she a medical condition.

Whether she is or isn't, it shouldn't matter. She does her job, much like many other horizontally-challenged people, and doesn't deserve to be discriminated against for it.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 22):
There are dwarfs/midgets (little people for the PC crowd)


Vertically challenged is the proper term I learned in college.

Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 20):
I watched her on GMA the other morning, and her husband had explained she has a thyroid issue, that makes it harder for her to lose weight,


Thyroid issues can be fatal if not treated properly.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 22):
Whether she is or isn't, it shouldn't matter. She does her job, much like many other horizontally-challenged people, and doesn't deserve to be discriminated against for it.


  



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 12):
Not in all cases.

Granted some people do have genetic issues but mostly the problem is bad diet and now exercise.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
...and what about those of us that are attracted to fatter people?

That is a problem that only you can work through, although maybe a therapist could help.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):

Go ahead and poke fun at all the fat people you see. We'd love to see how that ends up.

Why would I do that?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
I would look totally SICK at 165 pounds. I

Nope you'd probably look like this



or



Then you wouldn't have to chase after chubby chicks because the hot ones would be chasing after you.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 24):
That is a problem that only you can work through, although maybe a therapist could help.


So let me get this straight. If people have taste different than yours, then they must have a "problem" and need therapy?

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 24):
Then you wouldn't have to chase after chubby chicks because the hot ones would be chasing after you.



Wait, you think I can't get the skinny ones already? I'm simply not interested in them period.
I don't care to look like those men on those photos but if that's what you're in to, go for it.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 24):
Why would I do that?



Why do you always complain about it here under the anonymity of the Internet? This is obviously an issue that is so near and dear to you maybe you should talk to those people. You're implying that it's wrong for over-weight people to be "socially acceptable" and should somehow be humiliated. Perhaps you should try talking to people directly about this. You're the one that started the thread.



Therapy is needed by those that think it's ok to harass and humiliate people based on their weight.



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User currently offlineSmittyOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

The thing that pisses me off about this guy (and other "fitness" types that lord it over others who are not as "fit") is that he is jabbing her about a visible and arguably superficial aspect of her life that he particularly values. Probably in compensation for his other shortcomings.

Maybe I should send him a letter that as a patronizing dumbass he's setting a poor example for all the kids out there.

[Edited 2012-10-05 11:44:40]

User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
Why do you always complain about it here under the anonymity of the Internet? This is obviously an issue that is so near and dear to you maybe you should talk to those people.

But I don't this is the first thread I've posted about fatties.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
So let me get this straight. If people have taste different than yours, then they must have a "problem" and need therapy?

Whatever floats your boat, I've looked at the photos of the women you find attractive in the would you hit it threads, you're pretty much out on your own here, I think I speak for the majority of a.netters when I say your tastes fall outside what most find or consider attractive.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 26):
So I say +1 for her telling him to pound sand at the beginning but -1 for trying to paint herself as a 'victim of bullying'. Unsolicited negative feedback is not the same thing.

Completely agree, she could also do with dropping 100 pounds or so, it would probably help her career.

TV anchors should look like this



She works for M6 in France.


User currently offlineSmittyOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 27):
Completely agree, she could also do with dropping 100 pounds or so, it would probably help her career.

Rob, I edited my post because the author of the letter apparently responded to her response telling her that she should do some kind of public weight loss drill.

Sharing his opinion is one thing, but the author trying to compel some lady he doesn't even know to do things to meet his approval is another. I can see that as starting to drift into the bully lane.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 27):
TV anchors should look like this

I agree, but only for my own gratification   Where this ass stepped out of line was trying to equate it to some kind of moral imperative.

[Edited 2012-10-05 11:51:20]

User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11426 posts, RR: 52
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

As for charging "bullying," well, that's just the word of the day. Kind of like "hero."


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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10104 posts, RR: 26
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2019 times:
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Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 27):
Whatever floats your boat, I've looked at the photos of the women you find attractive in the would you hit it threads, you're pretty much out on your own here, I think I speak for the majority of a.netters when I say your tastes fall outside what most find or consider attractive.

Which means what?

Answer: absolutely nothing. Which is what you're about to become.

Ahh, sorry, slipped into movie-reference mode for a second there.

But seriously, I'm not particularly attracted to Indian girls. Do I need to go to therapy, to turn me into a good wholesome Indian son, who is attracted to and marries an Indian girl?

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 24):
That is a problem that only you can work through, although maybe a therapist could help.

Dude. He doesn't consider it a problem. I don't know why you would.

I'm actually a bit shocked reading your posts (assuming they're serious....if not, oh well). I feel the same way about what you're saying as I do about the guy who wrote to the overweight anchor.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 30):

Dude. He doesn't consider it a problem. I don't know why you would.

I probably should have added a smiley face after that post  
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 30):

But seriously, I'm not particularly attracted to Indian girls.

Native Americans or Indian Sub Continent?

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 30):
I feel the same way about what you're saying as I do about the guy who wrote to the overweight anchor.

The way I see it is that obesity is the major health problem facing the Western World, we should be fighting it like the health profession fought big tobacco, unfortunately there are far too many fat apologists out there, it gets even worse when countries like Canada decide to make being obese a disability, get serious these people in the vast majority of cases did it too themselves, why should we feel sorry for them, it's even worse when you see fat kids, in those cases it's not the kids doing it too themselves it's the parents, IMO that's borderline child abuse.


User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 27):

Completely agree, she could also do with dropping 100 pounds or so, it would probably help her career.

TV anchors should look like this

I'm sorry, but aside from the fact that she's pleasing to the eye, I prefer journalists to actually be good at their jobs. Somehow, I don't think that's a weight-dependent factor. Of course, Cronkite was probably obese based on BMI. As for Supe's tastes, those are his and he's entitled to them. There's no "mainstream" when it comes to something as individualized as one's preferences in romance. I may disagree with Larry on some things but I'll be damned if I'm not going to go to bat for him on that.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 31):

The way I see it is that obesity is the major health problem facing the Western World, we should be fighting it like the health profession fought big tobacco, unfortunately there are far too many fat apologists out there, it gets even worse when countries like Canada decide to make being obese a disability, get serious these people in the vast majority of cases did it too themselves, why should we feel sorry for them, it's even worse when you see fat kids, in those cases it's not the kids doing it too themselves it's the parents, IMO that's borderline child abuse.

Eh, personally I find the failure of parents to teach their children the proper use of "to" versus "too" to be child abuse, but I'm not going to rant on it.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 32):

Eh, personally I find the failure of parents to teach their children the proper use of "to" versus "too" to be child abuse

Better blame my school but I'm not to, too, concerned about it.


User currently offlineRabenschlag From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 1010 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Body weight / BMI is one of the most important factors affecting attractiveness, with bigger = less attractive in most current societies. And he media prefer attractive people, heck, even classical music performers need to be attractive these days. So, I'd say the present case is in line with mainstream culture and not surprising at alll.

User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Quoting Rabenschlag (Reply 34):


Body weight / BMI is one of the most important factors affecting attractiveness, with bigger = less attractive in most current societies. And he media prefer attractive people, heck, even classical music performers need to be attractive these days. So, I'd say the present case is in line with mainstream culture and not surprising at alll.

You know, that meter has shifted all over through the course of history. Where do you think we get the term "Rubenesque" from and when does it date from?



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User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 927 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

It's amazing how it's okay to make fun of skinny people but saying anything to an overweight person is a big no-no. I remember growing up and hearing "boy, you sure are skinny, don't you ever eat?" and such, all the time. I was 5'8" and weighed 115lbs and wore "slim" jeans and still had to cinch my belt up tight.
A small percentage of overweight people have thyroid or other medical issues, but the vast majority hide behind that excuse.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 37, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter):

I saw this on CNN last night, is Jennifer Livingston to fat to be on the news?

She'd better have something damn interesting to say because I don't want to look at her. Of course, her ratings would go up if she wore a green dress because of the people who stopped to watch thinking it was Return of the Jedi.

Quoting 747srule (Reply 21):
She's not fat,she's just short for her weight!

She'd have to be 8 feet tall.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6726 posts, RR: 12
Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

johns624 : so, did you make an effort to be skinny ?

[Edited 2012-10-05 12:28:49]


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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 39, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 35):
Where do you think we get the term "Rubenesque" from and when does it date from?

Yup but Rubenesque wasn't anything like what wanders the streets today. People say Marilyn Monroe was chubby, maybe she was back then but she'd be pretty slim in comparison to most women today, she was 5'5 and 118 pounds, wearing a 1950's size 12 which is a size 8 today.

That's another interesting titbit, sizes in the US are not what they used to be, Marilyn's size 12 back then is a size 8 today, vanity sizing, another way to make US women think they are smaller than we really are. UK and European sizes haven't changed.

Quote:

Just the facts:
• Average woman’s weight in the 1960’s: 140.4 pounds. Average woman’s weight today: 152.2 and rising.
• Own a size 8 dress today? Don’t be so smug. A decade ago, that same dress would’ve been sold as a size 10.
• Ever wonder why you’re a size 8 but can’t manage to squeeze into your mother’s vintage size 10 skirt? That’s ’cause a size 10 from 1942 is equivalent to a size 2 today.
• Sixty years ago, the average American’s bottom was 2 inches smaller than today’s 16 inches.
• Most toilet seats are 14.5 inches wide.
• One-third of America’s women can’t buy bikini brief undies at Victoria’s Secret. Vicky’s doesn’t offer size X-Large (which fits 16-18) in bikini form. Good news though: High-end lingerie designer La Perla is prepping a line for women size 14 and up.

Source: Marie Claire


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 40, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 38):
johns624 : so, did you make an effort to be skinny ?

I'm guessing no, he's probably got a super efficient metabolism. I've got a friend who easily packs away twice what I eat, he's 6ft even, weighs about 65kg, he's been the same weight since he was 15 and does absolutely no exercise at all.


User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 927 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 38):
johns624 : so, did you make an effort to be skinny ?

No, but I've always been actiive. I'm 53 now, and up to 165lbs. I used to ride centuries and metric centuries on my bike until I was in my early 40's and got hit by a car, which destroyed my shoulder. I still can outwork most of the young guys at work who always are guzzling their 5 Hour Energy drinks. They all eat lousy and don't expend any excess energy if they don't have to. I don't care what your metalbolism is, a certain amount of calorie intake equals a certain amount of calories. If you take in more than you burn off, you gain weight. If you take in fewer than you burn off, you lose weight. If you're sedentary, cut the intake.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 42, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 27):
But I don't this is the first thread I've posted about fatties.


It's certianly not your first post about "fatties". You're contempt for large people comes out in just about every topic so your opinion on this matter is well documented.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 27):
Whatever floats your boat, I've looked at the photos of the women you find attractive in the would you hit it threads, you're pretty much out on your own here, I think I speak for the majority of a.netters when I say your tastes fall outside what most find or consider attractive.


...and that's the difference between me & you. I'm not trying to 'fit in' and be on the same page as everyone else here at this site. Do you really think I give a damn what other people's opinion is of my own personal taste on an Internet forum?
I mean seriously.
Also, you do not speak for a majority when it comes to this thread you started.
As far as the anchor women, whatever floats your boat. I'm surrounded by beautiful women all the time and don't need for a news anchor person to satisfy me. I just want the news to be informative and unbiased. I don't care if they're fat or skinny, male or female.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 31):
The way I see it is that obesity is the major health problem facing the Western World

No longer the ususal exclusive problem to the United States anymore? Now it's the "Western World"? I see an improvement. Keep up the good work.   

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 32):
I'm sorry, but aside from the fact that she's pleasing to the eye, I prefer journalists to actually be good at their jobs. Somehow, I don't think that's a weight-dependent factor.

Exactly! Often times when I listen to the news, I'm not even looking at the screen.

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 32):
There's no "mainstream" when it comes to something as individualized as one's preferences in romance.

  

Quoting garnetpalmetto (Reply 32):
I may disagree with Larry on some things but I'll be damned if I'm not going to go to bat for him on that.

Haha, thanks!
I think we agree on most things except that birther thing.  
Quoting Rabenschlag (Reply 34):
even classical music performers need to be attractive these days.

Come to think of it, you're right.

Quoting johns624 (Reply 36):
It's amazing how it's okay to make fun of skinny people but saying anything to an overweight person is a big no-no.

It's easier to gain weight than to lose weight.
Eating good food is more satisfying than starving and or getting by on water and rice cakes.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 39):
Source: Marie Claire

So now you're reading Marie Claire? Man card revoked!

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 30):
I'm actually a bit shocked reading your posts (assuming they're serious....if not, oh well). I feel the same way about what you're saying as I do about the guy who wrote to the overweight anchor.

I believe his is being serious.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 42):

It's certianly not your first post about "fatties". You're contempt for large people comes out in just about every topic so your opinion on this matter is well documented.

Not true, it's more pity than contempt. It's the first post I have started about fatties.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 42):
No longer the ususal exclusive problem to the United States anymore? Now it's the "Western World"? I see an improvement. Keep up the good work.

Nope but it started in the US and has expanded around the world. It hasn't been a US only problem for a very long time, it's just far more obvious in the US than anywhere else.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 42):
It's easier to gain weight than to lose weight.

Rubbish, I lost 18kg in 6 months, it was easy all I did was stop eating crap and cut out carbonated drinks, started going to the gym twice a week and restarted playing squash. It just takes willpower.


User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 927 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 43):
Rubbish, I lost 18kg in 6 months, it was easy all I did was stop eating crap and cut out carbonated drinks, started going to the gym twice a week and restarted playing squash. It just takes willpower

Exactly. People take years to gain weight but when they can't lose it in 6 weeks, it's "too hard". It's just like I quit smoking "cold turkey". I did it--no problem. Many people just have no self control.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 43):
Rubbish, I lost 18kg in 6 months, it was easy all I did was stop eating crap and cut out carbonated drinks, started going to the gym twice a week and restarted playing squash. It just takes willpower.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 45):
Congratulations. You win the prize!

Thanks Larry it means so much to me.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 45):
...and here is the cargo bay of all who are impressed.

Yeah well you keep living it large Larry.


User currently offlineFabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 47, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

Come on. Nobody is asking him to marry her. So what. He can even switch the channel.

I just hate all this "My view is better than your view" crowd. So what if I smoke and eat, my choice.

Cheers to your choice of women, Superfly, and cheers to mine, even if they are different.



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1389 posts, RR: 3
Reply 48, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1879 times:

Well, Superfly, you go ahead and maintain your overweight. I'm sure you'll be delighted when diabetes-2 shows its face, if it hasn't already, and you enjoy injecting yourself.

I, for one, am very impressed with the weight loss Mr. KiwiRob has achieved. You see, I tend to get a little too round myself unless I'm careful, and for the last few years I haven't exactly been that. Too much food, too much crap food to be exact, and not enough exercise saw me gain around 20 kgs. Now, was I an American I would have been looking like the average person, but I'm not and there's no way 20 kg of fat should ever be considered "normal". What it is, in fact, is 20 kg of killing-you-slowly, and so I decided to do something about it. It's really not that hard, provided you've got a bit of willpower and the determination not to luck like a fat, miserable, slob.

I've lost 9 kg so far, in around 2 months. And it's ever so easy: Don't eat crap food, that'll be any kind of fast-food from any kind of vendor in case you wondered, no fizzy sugary drinks, cut right down on the beers and maintain a moderate dose of exercise. In my case, it's around 100 km a week on the bicycle. So nothing too hard, and yet the kilos are dropping off nicely thank you very much.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 49, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 48):
I've lost 9 kg so far, in around 2 months.

Congratulations.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 48):
In my case, it's around 100 km a week on the bicycle. So nothing too hard, and yet the kilos are dropping off nicely thank you very much.

I have a bike but I'm a fair weather cyclist, Norway isn't a fair weather country so I don't get on it anywhere near enough.


User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 50, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

One reason many Americans are fat is not that ''Americans live unhealthy lifestyles''. It's because it's socially acceptable to be fat and is not considered a huge medical problem. Being fat is wrong because it's bad for your health. Fat people should not be put on tv in a positive light, in the same way that smoking shouldn't be portrayed as cool.

In Europe, you will just not make many friends if you're fat and you can only date other fat people. People are ashamed to be seen with you. Just as they'd be disgusted by people who wear dirty clothes.

Being fat is the result of eating more calories than you burn. Make an effort and take care of yourself, especially since it's not just about aesthetics but about your health. Don't accept fat people as different; tell them it's wrong to be fat and encourage them to change for their own good. It's not a disability that deserves protection. It's their own fault.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10104 posts, RR: 26
Reply 51, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1850 times:
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Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 43):
Not true, it's more pity than contempt.

Pity is probably worse. Nothing worse than un-asked-for pity. If someone doesn't pity him/herself, why should I pity him/her?

Quoting johns624 (Reply 44):
Exactly. People take years to gain weight but when they can't lose it in 6 weeks, it's "too hard". It's just like I quit smoking "cold turkey". I did it--no problem. Many people just have no self control.

Many people are also in the grip of addictions. Not all, but many. It's not as simple as "many people just have no self-control".

Quoting something (Reply 50):
Don't accept fat people as different; tell them it's wrong to be fat and encourage them to change for their own good. It's not a disability that deserves protection. It's their own fault.

Yes, making people feel horrible is a great way to get them to listen to you and encourage positive change. Telling someone that some characteristic of theirs is "wrong" is just not how you go about something like that. You're starting out with a complete lack of understanding.

Quoting something (Reply 50):
In Europe, you will just not make many friends if you're fat and you can only date other fat people. People are ashamed to be seen with you. Just as they'd be disgusted by people who wear dirty clothes.

If that's your view of people, I'm sure they're better off without you as a friend. I'm not saying that to be a dick; I'm serious.

Quoting something (Reply 50):
Fat people should not be put on tv in a positive light, in the same way that smoking shouldn't be portrayed as cool.

So you mean, you can't show an obese person on TV who is happy? Who doesn't happen to be trying to lose weight?

That is utterly ridiculous.



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User currently offlinebaldwin471 From UK - England, joined Mar 2012, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

You know less than 2% of obese people have a genetic condition or other condition to cause the excess weight? That means the other 98% are just greedy. Simple as. I'm not preaching by the way, i carry a few extra pounds myself. Difference is i don't get defensive when people talk about fat people. Fat isn't attractive, no matter how you look at it. It isn't good for you. May i refer you to this little number - Fat Children by Tim Minchin. Google it. It's brilliant.

Losing weight is very easy. Expel more calories than you consume. Can't get easier than that.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 53, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

Quoting Fabo (Reply 47):
Come on. Nobody is asking him to marry her. So what. He can even switch the channel.

If I turn on my TV and I have the hot chick or the one that looks like a South Park character, I know which I'd rather look at.



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User currently offlineSmittyOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 54, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 43):
Nope but it started in the US and has expanded around the world. It hasn't been a US only problem for a very long time, it's just far more obvious in the US than anywhere else.
Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 52):
That means the other 98% are just greedy.

Not to give people an easy excuse, but I think a lot of it has to do with our jacked up food supply in the US.

[Edited 2012-10-05 16:23:04]

User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 55, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

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